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funkyflathead Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 11:02 AM
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Iranian Earthquake- B*sh did it but how?
I've heard tectonic weapons tossed around but what if that evil dummy prayed for the quake???
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Devlzown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 11:07 AM
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1. In his case, praying wouldn't do any good.
Unless you believe in Satan, which I don't. :)
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 11:19 AM
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3. Now that begs the obvious question....
How could you be "Devlzown" if you don't believe in Satan? :evilgrin:

As for either God OR Satan starting earthquakes at the request of the Idiot Son of an Asshole, I don't find that very likely. Nor do I believe it was any sort of secret tectonic weapons. We had a 6.8 up here nearly 3 years ago... just a couple weeks after the Moron illegally assumed office. Now I know that one wasn't "the wrath of God", because nobody around here voted for that bastard. Earthquakes fall under the category of "shit happens", unfortunately.
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Devlzown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 11:36 AM
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9. That name comes from years of living in the Bible Belt.
Free-thinkers, liberals, etc. might as well be devil worshippers to a lot of people down here. When you tell them you don't believe in the devil, they say "If you don't believe in Satan you can't believe in God either." When you ask them why God can't exist without Satan, it short-circuits their little brains, and they really think you're evil. So I guess this little moniker is my way of accepting my role in the society I live in and thumbing my nose at it at the same time.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 09:17 AM
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43. There's a town down in Florida
that the mayor is trying to exorcise the devil from within its boundaries. She even put up some pillars around the place to keep the devil out. I suppose I better not go fishing there anymore?

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Devlzown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 12:52 PM
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53. Incubus! The fish will stick in thy throat!
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 07:49 AM
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41. Actually, if you were paying attention...
Edited on Sun Dec-28-03 07:49 AM by MetaTrope
We had a 6.8 up here nearly 3 years ago... just a couple weeks after the Moron illegally assumed office.

In the space of a few days that last week of January 2001, there were a whole lot of earthquakes that had pretty much girdled the planet--India, Greece, Indonesia, New Guinea, Peru, Japan, El Salvador, even Ohio and New York City. Certainly raised my eyebrows...I figured somebody had just given George the keys to the satellite...
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 11:14 AM
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2. Get a grip.
The entire middle east is seismically quite active. Earthquakes occur there all the time. Don't believe the science fiction movies you see, that kind of technology simply doesn't exist at this point.

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cowpie Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 11:22 AM
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4. WOW
This is getting spooky. Did you know that in a few trillion years the sun will swell to many times its size and envelope the Earth killing everything? DAMN YOU GEORGE BUSH!
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:50 PM
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16. given his environmental record, we'd never make it that far
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coda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 11:24 AM
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5. Exactly

By The Associated Press

Major earthquakes since 1923:



_ Dec. 26, 2003: Southeastern Iran, magnitude 6.5; Government estimates at least 20,000 killed.


_ May 1, 2003: Southeastern Turkey, magnitude 6.4; 167 people killed, including 83 children in a collapsed dormitory.


_ Feb. 24, 2003: Western China, magnitude 6.3 or 6.8; at least 266 killed.


_ June 22, 2002: Northwestern Iran, magnitude 6; at least 500 killed.


_ March 25, 2002: Northern Afghanistan (news - web sites), magnitude 5.8; up to 1,000 killed.


_ Jan. 26, 2001: India, magnitude 7.9; at least 2,500 killed. Estimates put death toll as high as 13,000.


_ Sept. 21, 1999: Taiwan, magnitude 7.6; 2,400 killed.


_ Aug. 17, 1999: Western Turkey, magnitude 7.4; 17,000 killed.


_ Jan. 25, 1999: Western Colombia, magnitude 6; 1,171 killed.


_ May 30, 1998: Northern Afghanistan and Tajikistan, magnitude 6.9; as many as 5,000 killed.


_ May 10, 1997: Northern Iran, magnitude 7.1; 1,500 killed.


_ Jan. 17, 1995: Kobe, Japan, magnitude 7.2; more than 6,000 killed.


_ Sept. 30, 1993: Latur, India, magnitude 6.0; as many as 10,000 killed.


_ June 21, 1990: Northwest Iran, magnitude 7.3-7.7; 50,000 killed.


_ Dec. 7, 1988: Northwest Armenia, magnitude 6.9; 25,000 killed.


_ Sept. 19, 1985: Central Mexico, magnitude 8.1; more than 9,500 killed.


_ Sept. 16, 1978: Northeast Iran, magnitude 7.7; 25,000 killed.

_ July 28, 1976: Tangshan, China; magnitude 7.8-8.2; 240,000 killed.

_ Feb. 4, 1976: Guatemala, magnitude 7.5; 22,778 killed.

_ Dec. 26, 1939: Erzincan province, Turkey, magnitude 7.9; 33,000 killed.

_ Jan. 24, 1939: Chillan, Chile, magnitude 8.3; 28,000 killed.

_ May 31, 1935: Quetta, India, magnitude 7.5; 50,000 killed.

_ Sept. 1, 1923: Tokyo-Yokohama, Japan, magnitude 8.3; at least 140,000 killed.



http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&e=2...

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shawn703 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 11:28 AM
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6. Wow look at that!
They've actually grown in frequency in that area since * took office! I count 6 there since 2001, which according to this table, equals the total number from 1923 until that time!
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coda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 11:32 AM
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8. LOL Great pic.
Thanks. :thumbsup:
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dodgerartful Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 11:43 AM
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10. great picture....
says alot with a little.....
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 12:22 PM
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11. Wow, S703 what a photo.
First I looked at the soldiers, then I saw the McDonald's sign!

Anyway, I agree with the posters here; I do not believe that we have figured out a way to create earthquakes underground. That's science fiction (still....). Besides, if we were to be that dastardly and evil, we would probably get a 7.0 richter earthquake right smack in the middle of New York for our efforts.

And it is true that this is an area that has frequent earthquakes. But it seems that there is an increase in earthquakes lately, and also the magnitude.

So maybe God is pissed?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 03:28 PM
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23. Beware of normal human misperceptions
cliss wrote:

"...it seems that there is an increase in earthquakes lately, and also the magnitude...."

Please check the historical record before betting the farm on that kind of perception.
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 04:54 AM
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39. That's NOT true...
Edited on Sun Dec-28-03 04:56 AM by arcos
they only list earthquakes with the most casualties. A lot of major earthquakes are not listed, because for some reason they weren't as destructive.

For example, in 1991 Central America had a 7.7 earthquake, the biggest quake in the world during 1991. Luckily there were only 127 casualties (in Costa Rica and Panam), although there was a lot of destruction. Over $200 million (1991 US dollars) in damages, and over 4,000 houses collapsed only in CR.

on edit: The earthquake was so powerful that it caused the Caribbean shoreline to raise up to 1.85 meters in some parts. That caused the instant death of the coral reef.
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haele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 12:41 PM
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51. October 16, 1999 - "Hector Mine, CA - 7.1" - Zero casualties
a comparatively massive quake in California terms, and would have been devastating anywhere else in the world considering the potential spread in damage to communities local to the epicenter - but it did little more than derail an Amtrak train passing through and caused very little serious structural damage in the area.
Not to mention the 7.9 Alaska Quake of 2002 - which, according to the USGS, was strong enough to have caused "sloshing water" in Lake Pontchartrain and muddy well water throughout the US and Canada but caused few casualties, Pasa Robles/Cambria quake last week (two unfortunate casualties), and the Nisqually/Puget Sound 6.8 quake in 2001 (the quake mentioned earlier by another DU'er).

There are many major quakes all over the world. Not all of them do damage in human terms - generally, the most damage is in areas where the local infrastructure has been built up without taking into consideration from local quakes that may or may not occur.

Now, I wouldn't be surprised if there is more instability in earth movement due to human activities such as over-drilling, mining, and underground explosive testing which could potentially affect the more sensitive aquifers and fault pressure/slip areas - but I'm going to have to be wishful but still skeptical to imagine that Shrub and co have some sort of direct causation to the increase in quake activity.

Especially since I believe that the increase in natural disasters in California can only serve to ultimately harm the current Shrubco stooge who stole the governor's office - Californians do not take kindly to disaster mismanagement, and they don't have a Democratic party figurehead to blindly shift blame to anymore.

Haele
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 11:32 AM
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7. Impossible - it had to be
Clinton's fault - just because
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Fixated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 12:27 PM
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12. You've got to be kidding me
I can't believe that people are buying this. My dad is from Iran...large earthquakes are pretty much annual.
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worldgonekrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 03:31 PM
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24. My reaction as well
I'm even one of the more conspiracy minded DUers, but Bush causing Earthquakes in Iran? I understand the paranoia but this is just ridiculous.
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:28 PM
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13. Bush giveth and Bush taketh away.
For his next trick, Bush will undo the damage done in the California earthquake. The insurance companies will save billions.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:20 PM
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14. It would make a great
sci-fi story - using tectonic weapons then getting access to the reconstruction contracts...
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:37 PM
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15. did what?
come on...this is ridiculous
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:56 PM
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17. Agreed.
Sheesh.

The FReeps are gonna love this thread.

Sheesh again.
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Scimmio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:57 PM
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18. ridiculous?
the technology has been there for a long time...geez, did you miss all those Superfriends cartoons? there are machines to induce weather/natural disasters and men who are evil enough to use them...


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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:59 PM
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19. To whom would he pray for such a thing?
No matter what one calls God, no benevolent one is gonna indulge GWaBby.

If he did pray to make it happen; you, in this lowly thread, have managed to prove, beyond any reasonable doubt, in Satan.

Sheesh.
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Hogarth Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 03:07 PM
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20. I think ...
... he's in possession of Mikos Cassidine's evil weather machine.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 06:31 PM
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31. But didn't Luke and Laura blow it up?
Besides, I always figured Junior was in league with the DiMera family. They seem to be better partners for the BCE than the Cassadines.
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Hogarth Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 09:06 PM
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32. They blew it up?
Man, that's a load off. It's been weighing on my mind for nigh upon twenty years.

At that time I was working at home, preparing specifications for a bid on revovations to the First Baptist Church (Are there any Second Baptist churches?).

Looking back, I can't believe I tuned in to that drivel ... but I did. I guess there weren't too many choices of channels back then in the "old days."
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 09:07 PM
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33. no no no....it was JR!
Reports of his being shot are greatly exaggerated.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 03:25 PM
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21. It was really TV chef Emeril Lagasse
That's why the city of "Bam!" was targeted.

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Hogarth Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 09:46 PM
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35. I think it's actually pronounced ...
... like the word "bomb." But the media are going with the Emeril-pronunciation.

Bam!

Who wants to even consider that we may "bam" Iran if the election falls in Bush's favor?

But now I'm being silly, and it's late.

Best to all.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 12:28 PM
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49. I'm sure you are right about th3e pronounciation
No problem with silliness, as that is the essence of this absurd thread.
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 03:27 PM
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22. Give me a break.
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auburnblu Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 03:46 PM
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25. This is great, somebody finally agress with me and Art Bell
Wow, the orginal poster of this thread is right on the money. As of course President Bush ordered the earthquake attack. I hear he was riding around with Elvis in a Pink Cadillac at the Crawford Texas ranch when he gave the order. http://www.coasttocoastam.com /

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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 03:56 PM
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26. If Bush did it, then he is GOD, and we all better become Republicans.
Gosh, I hope nobody takes me seriously.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 09:12 AM
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42. My grandfather always said:
"When you go into that voting booth you can vote for anybody you want. Just remember that God is with you, and He is a Democrat."

I think now He is supremely pissed as well.

It's one thing to go against God, but I'll be damned if I will defy my wonderful grandfather!

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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 04:30 PM
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27. Yes, it is true that Bush caused the earthquake.
And it is also true that Gore endorsed Dean so that he'll lose and Gore can run in 2008. Or something like that. Or whatever William Safire is saying these days.

Same bullshit, different conspiracy. Both sides (Repub & Democrats) have their conspiracy nuts. Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it), a lot of the Republican conspiracy theories make it into the mainstream while ours never do (even if there's a lot more truth to them).

Remember kiddies, Clinton is pulling Clark's strings and wants him to be the nominee because he knows he will lose, so that Hillary can be the nominee in 2008! Pass it around!
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AtTheEndOfTheDay Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 04:44 PM
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28. Maybe he's testing his bunker buster nukes
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 06:13 PM
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29. i totally believe we use earthquakes as weapons
the 'star wars' docket at the patent and trademark office is chockablock with all kinds of weather/earthquake-creating apparati

why would folks think you can't do this on purpose?
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 06:26 PM
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30. I thought Santa did it because the Iranians fired AA guns at him
What? Don't be such close mind idiots, pay attention people Santa is EVIL!! He did this and he must be stopped before he attacks every major university in the country in a effort to destroy liberalism at it's source!

AAAAHHHHHH!!!!

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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 09:37 PM
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34. *sigh* I was hoping to have a quiet holiday
The conspiracy theorists are at it again. Just look at the subject line.

Conclusion first, facts later.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 09:55 PM
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36. Professor Plum did it
in the conservatory with the whatchacallit.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 01:51 AM
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37. Y'all scoff all you like.
Check into HAARP, scalar waves, and ELF radiation sometime when you're bored.

Bear in mind that the same government that discredited Nicola Tesla's theories has gone to great pains to keep all his papers.

:freak:
dbt

Of course, Mother Earth could just be seriously pissed off by now..
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 04:42 AM
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38. I have no doubt in my mind tectonic weapons are being developed...
but I think it's ridiculous to think Bush is behind Iran's earthquake.
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Sideways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 05:25 AM
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40. Hey Guys Let Me Tell You About A Weird Weather Event In Oman 10 Days Ago
Oman doesn't have the famed dust storms of Iraq and this time of the year the sky is blue as blue can be. About ten days ago I awoke and the house was really dark not the usual morning sun streaming in. So I looked out the window and I couldn't believe what I was seeing....EVERYTHING WAS BROWN. The sky was totally obscured and the air was still, heavy, and ominous feeling. The visibility was shit and I was spooked really deep in my core.

The neighbors were baffled this just hadn't happened here before. Some of them have lived here for 20 years or more. I just could not shake the thought that this was NOT some dust storm. To me it just seemed that for that much dirt and sand to get airborne it would have had to been displaced by some sort of powerful force.

Then the local news began reporting that the sand and dirt had been blown here from....IRAN. I told my neighbor if what I think happened in Iran happened (FYI I think some powerful explosive was detonated in the outback of Iraq) and it occurred anywhere in the vicinity of a fault line we could see a MF earthquake in the region soon.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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TomNickell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 09:37 AM
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44. No, it was my neighbor, Flugelheim.....
He's been building this really strange contraption down in his basement for years now...
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TomNickell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 09:40 AM
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45. Promote the 'Conspiracists Corner'
Hey guys,
If ever there was an argument for a 'Conspiracists Corner' where conspiracists can work unobstructed, this is the one.

Lobby 'Admin'
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 09:50 AM
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46. This is like the third absurd thread I've seen on this topic
Edited on Sun Dec-28-03 09:55 AM by Lydia Leftcoast
Saying that the Busheviks caused the earthquake in Iran is like saying that they caused the latest tornado in the southern Plains or the latest hurricane in Florida or the latest blizzard in North Dakota.

Iran is an extremely earthquake-prone country, and the forces unleashed during an earthquake are much greater than anything humans can produce. Countries have been setting off nukes,both above and below ground, for over fifty-five years, and not one of them has ever been shown to cause an earthquake. Get a good geology textbook and read up on seismology.

I'm willing to consider that the sandstorm in Oman was the by-product of some Bushevik hanky panky in Iraq, but it could also be one of the weird effects of global warming. In any case, the conceivable mechanisms for causing a sandstorm and for causing an earthquake would be quite different.

I like a good conspiracy theory as much as anyone, but I prefer the ones that are plausible.
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ChemEng Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 11:44 AM
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47. Actually, the sun may have done it.....
There is a theory that when the sun reaches peak activity in an 11-year cycle, and coronal discharges from sunspots causes geomagnetic storms, that these storms disrupt the earth's magnetic field. This in turn affects the molten iron at the earth's core leading to movement of the tectonic plates. We may also see an increase in volcanic activity as well.

This is information from one of my favorite meteorologists, Dr. Dewpoint (actually Joe D'Aleo, love that moniker!).

Take a look at the article, and especially the graphs of volcanic activity versus sunspot activity.

http://www.intellicast.com/DrDewpoint/Library/1416 /


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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 12:27 PM
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48. well, you could always go to Bam with a geiger counter

and see what's what.
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Indiana Democrat Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 12:39 PM
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50. You're kidding...
...Right??
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 12:45 PM
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52. I can see LIHOP, maybe even MIHOP
but CEII (Causing Earthquake In Iran) is beyond the pale.
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