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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 07:45 PM
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VIDEO-John Dean on Impeachment of Bush over SPYING
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 07:49 PM
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1. Well worth seeing. liveoaktx, you rock!! nt
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 07:49 PM
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2. K&R and thank you!!!
Peace.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 07:52 PM
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3. Thank you, thank you very much..... :) kicked and recommended.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 07:53 PM
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4. Kicked and recommended...
I saw the clip live, and it's great that Canofun has it up so soon.

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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 09:25 PM
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15. Beef, your graphic makes my blood pressure rise.
:banghead:

How many more will die?
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 09:49 PM
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16. The military photos are from a series of 36...
...released on July 20, 2005 as the result of a Freedom of Information Act petition.

They are HUGE resolution photos (one is 2000 x 1300) and they were made available in a Zip file.

I can't even remember where I downloaded them from. I believe it might have been a link on Raw Story or Huffington Post.

But I spent some time putting that graphic together, and I can honestly say that it represents who George W. Bush is to me.

He's so far removed from not only the pain and suffering of out military and their families but the families in our own country struggling in his top-heavy economy.

We need to keep the blood pressure up. We need to reclaim our country.

:patriot:
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 10:46 PM
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18. I agree.
:yourock:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 07:53 PM
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5. Thanks for the video!
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 07:55 PM
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6. Dupe
Edited on Tue Dec-27-05 07:56 PM by 4MoronicYears
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 08:02 PM
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7. You are awesome. When I saw this tonight,
I said to myself: I betcha (I hope) liveoaktx will cut and post this vid clip. It's really a good one. And, I believe, it's a milestone video. This runaway train has left the station. Again, thank you for posting.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 08:04 PM
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8. Absolutely wonderful!....Thanks.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 08:12 PM
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9. And, thank you, liveoaktx.
I was watching Olbermann, but had to lateral to a family moment. :)

I really like John Dean.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 08:36 PM
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10. Great stuff! Dean doesn't mince words. He's a clear thinker.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 08:40 PM
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11. Its official - We Now Live in a Banana Republic.
http://www.brainshrub.com/us-banana-republic

Its official - We Now Live in a Banana Republic.

Last week we heard the shocking news that the President had secretly ordered NSA phone taps without a warrant of any sort of hundreds and possibly even thousands ordinary American citizens making overseas calls over the last 3 years in violation of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) and justified it using a secret legal finding from the Justice Department.

Previously, President Bush, in clear violation of various extradition treaties with foreign countries, has secretly ordered the illegal kidnapping from certain foreign countries to others of persons he believed to be terrorists and used another secret finding from the Justice Department to once again to justify that order.

Weve seen the President order that an American citizen, Jose Padilla, who was taken into custody not on a foreign battlefield, but rather in Chicago Illinois - be held in a U.S. Navy brig in South Carolina without a trial, a judge, a jury or even access to a lawyer for three years.

Again this action was also justified by a legal "finding contrived by the Justice Department.

This illegal detention continued until they were faced with the likely embarrassment that a conservative, largely Republican appointed Supreme Court would force them to release Mr. Padilla. At this point they finally announced charges against Mr. Padilla but these charges had nothing to do with the original reasons for detaining him.

Weve seen the President order that suspected terrorists captured on battlefields abroad be held in a multitude of secret prisons including at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba ; Abu Gharab, Iraq; in Eastern Europe; and elsewhere without access to an International Red Cross representative and without a proper accounting of who those prisoners are to the IRC.

Those prisoners have been repeatedly subjected to abuse and even torture and a number of prisoners have even died as a result of their treatment.

More legal findings from the Justice Department were used to justify these actions that are in clear violation of the Constitutions prohibition that no person may be subjected to cruel and unusual punishment and that are in violation of other Federal statutes and international treaty obligations.

Weve even seen the President and Vice President lobbying to stop Congress from passing anti-torture legislation until last week when they were faced with the embarrassing prospect of Congress overriding a Presidential veto.

Weve seen the President lie to both the Congress and the American People about the reasons for starting a war, and then attempt to silence his critics through Nixonian tactics such as the illegal outing of the identity of CIA agent Valerie Plame.

Weve seen the Administration use our government to fund and distribute covert propaganda both here and abroad.

Weve seen the Administration use our government to illegally collect information on air travelers without a warrant where no probable cause existed to justify these illegal database searches.

Weve seen the Administration attempt to create Orwellian government propaganda offices such as the Office of Strategic Influence and Orwellian government research programs such as Cities that See in an attempt to use computers and cameras to track the movements of everyday ordinary citizens as they walk down city streets.

Never has any American President committed so many illegal, immoral and unconstitutional acts. Never.

Even Richard Nixon at some level understood that wiretaps without a court order were illegal, unconstitutional and wrong. The Watergate plumbers after all were burglars, not government agents acting behind the shield of official protection.

President Bush acts as though the Constitution were a hindrance, a burden, and an obstacle to be worked around rather than understanding that it is his primary duty to preserve, protect, defend and obey the Constitution.

He uses often-secret legal findings by his Justice Department to give the appearance of propriety while denying the third branch of government, the Federal Court system, any say in the matter. He never gets these Justice Department findings approved by the Congress, the Courts, or the people.

These fiat findings and executive orders are but one step removed from because the King said so and circumvent the very checks and balances the Founders intended for our protection.

The President swore an oath before God and the American People to the best of his Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

The President is fond of telling us that his number one priority is the protection of the American people and he repeated this claim yet again recently to a PBS reporter.

His oath of office however makes no mention of protecting the American people, nor does the Constitution charge him with that responsibility.

This, at first, may seem odd but the Founding Fathers understood well that tyrants often justified their actions on the basis that they were acting in the best interest of protecting the people.

They did not fight a revolution to remove themselves from the clutches of one king only to appoint a different king to take his place. They wanted a democratic government. They wanted an open government where effective checks and balances protected both the rights of the majority and the rights of the individual against those would be tyrants.

Protecting the American people is no excuse for destroying the American Constitution.

Secrecy is anathema to democracy for it denies We the People our fundamental right to an accountable government and our fundamental right to make an informed decision at the ballot box.

The President has repeatedly used secrecy to hide his illegal actions from the view of the Congress, the Courts, and most importantly the American people.

That the New York Times was aware of the fact that the President was illegally spying on American citizens without a court order - and chose to withhold that fact from the American public for over a year makes them an accomplice to that crime.

For the New York Times to withhold this information during an election year is in fact an unforgivable sin against the American People.

It is the duty of the press, above all else, to bring such abuses of power to the light of day.

That the President expects us to trust him for an extended period with the expanded and Constitutionally questionable powers that were granted to him under the PATRIOT Act after they expire in December would be laughable were it not so dangerous.

Today is hardly the first trying time that Americans have ever known. We should not allow the President to frighten us into giving up our American birthright the Constitution - and into replacing a free government of laws by a mere dictatorship of men.

That the President has gotten away with so many impeachable offenses for so long is baffling and deeply disturbing. The United States Congress and the Senate investigated Richard Nixon and prepared Articles of Impeachment against him for far less serious offenses.

It is long since time for them to impeach President Bush.

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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 08:41 PM
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12. Listening in without a warrant isn't just impolite, it's a felony.
http://www.brainshrub.com/president-wiretap

Listening in without a warrant isn't just impolite, it's a felony.

The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (USC Title 50 Chapter 36 Subchapter 1) specifically prohibits the government from doing what the President has secretly ordered and it is a serious felony with major penalties.

The President has publicly confessed to this felony on national television. He ordered government agencies to engage in spying on thousands of American citizens without a warrant when the Congress made specific provisions in law to cover all circumstances, even emergency situations so that the government could listen in for up to 72 hours before obtaining a warrant, plenty of time to find and convince a judge.

There is no excuse for this action, yet the President has done so anyways.

That the President has colluded with others to do so, also makes this a conspiracy subject to fine and imprisonment up to 5 years per count under USC TITLE 18 PART I CHAPTER 19 371.

That he has chosen to hide it from the public, the Congress, law enforcement agencies, and the Courts through secret findings and secret orders may also be a case for obstruction of justice under USC TITLE 18 PART I CHAPTER 73 1512 paragraph (b).

The penalties for illegal wiretaps are severe, up to 5 years and $10,000 per count. The President has admitted to reauthorizing this violation of the law 30 separate times and thousands of phone calls have been intercepted.

Did anyone ever see the movie The Firm? I think we've just found the way to shut down the firm of Bendini Lambert and Locke.

The time has come for Prosecutor Fitzgerald to step forward and finally take the gloves off.

It is definitely time for the Congress to convene impeachment hearings.

More information:

FISA Act:

USC Title 50 Chapter 36 Subchapter 1

1809. Criminal sanctions

Release date: 2005-03-17

(a) Prohibited activities A person is guilty of an offense if he intentionally

(1) engages in electronic surveillance under color of law except as authorized by statute; or

(2) discloses or uses information obtained under color of law by electronic surveillance, knowing or having reason to know that the information was obtained through electronic surveillance not authorized by statute.

(b) Defense

It is a defense to a prosecution under subsection (a) of this section that the defendant was a law enforcement or investigative officer engaged in the course of his official duties and the electronic surveillance was authorized by and conducted pursuant to a search warrant or court order of a court of competent jurisdiction.

(c) Penalties An offense described in this section is punishable by a fine of not more than $10,000 or imprisonment for not more than five years, or both.

(d) Federal jurisdiction There is Federal jurisdiction over an offense under this section if the person committing the offense was an officer or employee of the United States at the time the offense was committed
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 09:13 PM
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13. Thanks for the video liveoaktx.
John Dean is correct. Wiretapping is one of those things that the American people "get". Everything is going to hinge on the 2006 elections.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 09:15 PM
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14. KO was great tonight
terrific programme.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 10:36 PM
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17. Thanks for the video.
Peace.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 12:06 AM
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19. Kick -- Olberman ws ON FIRE tonight
He was not only rocking on the impeachment discusion, but he lit into Fox's John Gibson and O'Really with a vengence.

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sweetm2475 Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 02:38 AM
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20. what more will it take???
do people finally get it yet? john dean might as well been standing there yelling "democratic republic code blue"!!!! i know i'm preaching to the choir here but HELLO ANYONE?! :applause:
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 11:28 AM
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21. Thank you for doing this n/t
n/t
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