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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:35 PM
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VIDEO-US Does Not Do Torture or Rendition (El-Masri)
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:43 PM
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1. very disturbing.
peace.
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:49 PM
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2. repost : rendition = old nazi technique
Disappearing tricks
By Jim Lobe

WASHINGTON - According to his memoirs, Field Marshal Wilhelm Keitel considered the secret abduction and rendition to Germany of suspected Resistance members - otherwise known as the Nacht und Nebel (Night and Fog) Decree - to be the worst of all of the orders issued by Adolf Hitler for the Western-occupied territories of the Third Reich during World War II.

But the fuehrer thought it would be effective in deterring sabotage, which often claimed innocent civilian lives, as well as those of German soldiers, officers and civilian occupation officials. So he decreed that, with the exception of those cases where guilt could be established beyond a doubt, presumably through torture, anyone arrested on suspicion of "endangering German security" was to be transferred to Germany under "cover of night".

"The prisoners are to be transported to Germany secretly ...," according to the directive issued in February 1942 by Keitel, then chief of the German High Command. "These measures will have a deterrent effect because (a) the prisoners will vanish without leaving a trace, (b) no information may be given as to their whereabouts or their fate."

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While the Germans practiced this early form of what Human Rights Watch (HRW) last year called "a quintessential evil practiced by abusive governments", primarily for its presumed value in deterring others from participating in resisting Nazi occupation, Nacht und Nebel was the earliest known 20th century precursor of what the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) refers to as "renditions".


http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/GL08Ak03.html

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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:55 PM
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3. They lie, blatantly and without remorse, despite overwhelming evidence.
It's become second nature to everyone in the bush administration to simply lie. That's it. Lie. And then lie again, and again, and again.

The media never holds them accountable. The bush base thinks, "Well, if it happened, you musta done sumpin' to deserve it."
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 09:01 PM
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4. thx for putting that together
very powerful. Condi was stuttering like a little nervous bird.
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:09 PM
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5. a kick to watch tomorro
Need to go to bed, but I sure want to get back to this video tomorrow morning. Thanks to liveoaktx for what I am sure will be another wonderful piece of work.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 07:48 AM
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6. shameless morning kick because this is one proof of Bushco's lies
The ACLU has filed suit against the United States for "extraordinary rendition"

This is El-Masri and his family

http://www.aclu.org/natsec/emergpowers/22207prs20051206...
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