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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 12:32 PM
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VIDEO-Justifying the WAR
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  - You're on fire today, liveoaktx. Nominated.  bleever   Nov-11-05 12:37 PM   #1 
  - Wow! CNN creeps a little closer to airing the truth!  Quakerfriend   Nov-11-05 12:38 PM   #2 
  - Is this on anymore available links?  IChing   Nov-11-05 12:57 PM   #8 
  - Very powerful - the final line attributed to Powell  Tamarin   Nov-11-05 12:39 PM   #3 
  - That was CNN? Wow!  Wilms   Nov-11-05 12:41 PM   #4 
  - kick  obxhead   Nov-11-05 12:54 PM   #5 
  - Wow....  bowens43   Nov-11-05 12:55 PM   #6 
  - In other words  ewagner   Nov-11-05 12:55 PM   #7 
  - What's the deal with the thing in the upper right hand corner  QuettaKid   Nov-11-05 01:08 PM   #11 
  - let's see them re-run this piece  npincus   Nov-11-05 12:59 PM   #9 
  - I agree this piece is very damning  IChing   Nov-11-05 01:03 PM   #10 
     - thank god  bigscott   Nov-11-05 01:11 PM   #12 
  - They're trying to let Powell off the hook  FreedomAngel82   Nov-11-05 01:12 PM   #13 
  - I think it is because of Powell's defense of the Justification  IChing   Nov-11-05 01:20 PM   #14 
  - too late  info being   Nov-11-05 01:33 PM   #15 
     - And don't you just know that he realizes it himself now,  tenshi816   Nov-12-05 03:24 AM   #30 
  - Opportunists will go along  lumpy   Nov-11-05 05:55 PM   #23 
  - State Dept had its own intel unit that said most of that stuff was BS.  Garbo 2004   Nov-12-05 01:53 AM   #26 
  - I seriously love you.  VolcanoJen   Nov-11-05 01:38 PM   #16 
  - My gawd. WTF?! Well, they got they guy they wanted in office, now they  mzmolly   Nov-11-05 01:42 PM   #17 
  - This clip exemplifies the crucial flaw of the neocons  EstimatedProphet   Nov-11-05 01:43 PM   #18 
  - Unreal. KnR  slybacon9   Nov-11-05 02:43 PM   #19 
  - kick and nominated  IChing   Nov-11-05 05:03 PM   #20 
  - Right now your website seems to be down :cry:  ralps   Nov-11-05 05:52 PM   #21 
  - Excellent !  lumpy   Nov-11-05 05:52 PM   #22 
  - That's worth of a rightjous kick... we knew.....first msm track on this  IChing   Nov-11-05 08:33 PM   #24 
  - link doesnt work for me  MrDale   Nov-11-05 08:37 PM   #25 
  - I am having trouble with the link tonight. n.t  texpatriot2004   Nov-12-05 01:56 AM   #27 
  - Me too.  Rainscents   Nov-12-05 02:01 AM   #29 
  - Tagging for later. Link's not working right now.  Marr   Nov-12-05 02:01 AM   #28 
  - CanOFun is down  BigBearJohn   Nov-12-05 03:25 AM   #31 
  - "The powers that be are not terribly interested in whether or not  texpatriot2004   Nov-14-05 12:30 AM   #32 
 
bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 12:37 PM
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1. You're on fire today, liveoaktx. Nominated.
Much thanks.

:)
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 12:38 PM
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2. Wow! CNN creeps a little closer to airing the truth!
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 12:57 PM
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8. Is this on anymore available links?
I can't believe that was CNN, nominated
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Tamarin Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 12:39 PM
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3. Very powerful - the final line attributed to Powell
gave me chills.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 12:41 PM
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4. That was CNN? Wow!
I dig that guy who said the name "Curveball" should have served as a warning.
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 12:54 PM
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5. kick
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 12:55 PM
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6. Wow....
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 12:55 PM
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7. In other words
in today's speech Bush was lying his ass off AGAIN!
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 01:08 PM
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11. What's the deal with the thing in the upper right hand corner
Edited on Fri Nov-11-05 01:08 PM by QuettaKid
of the screen that looks like the classic "alien" head? Was someone wearing a t-shirt or something?
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 12:59 PM
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9. let's see them re-run this piece
as often as they did the 'Dean Scream'
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 01:03 PM
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10. I agree this piece is very damning
I hope it gets more airtime.
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bigscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 01:11 PM
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12. thank god
stuff like this is finally being aired - 3 years LATE :mad:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 01:12 PM
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13. They're trying to let Powell off the hook
They're trying to make it look like Powell was clueless and just going along. I don't buy that either. Powell could've researched it and gone to the CIA or something. I think he was just as involved. And they're also trying to blame just "Curveball" when Bush wanted anything to go to war with Iraq as Richard Clarke once told on "Meet the Press." They need to have him on and talk to him.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 01:20 PM
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14. I think it is because of Powell's defense of the Justification
was ignorance and Cheney's "cabal" as stated by his aide. Maybe Powell really knows that the ship is going down and he's asking for someone to throw him a life preserver to save his powerful name and what little respect he has left.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 01:33 PM
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15. too late
Powell lost his name on that day. I said that at the time. That was the day he threw it all away.
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 03:24 AM
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30. And don't you just know that he realizes it himself now,
when it's too late. He'll never get it back now.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 05:55 PM
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23. Opportunists will go along
with lies and convolutios for their selfish reasons. Powell is clearly
no patriot soldier.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 01:53 AM
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26. State Dept had its own intel unit that said most of that stuff was BS.
Niger, aluminum tubes, etc. Powell also was part of the NSC and briefed the Congress along with Tenet. Reportedly Powell included the Niger yellowcake claims in his Congressional briefings although his own State Dept intel unit (INR) as well as the US Ambassador to Niger, part of State's diplomatic service, had considered those claims debunked by early 2002.

Now Wilkerson's trying to run interference and portray Powell and Bush as out of the loop and uninformed. Baloney. If Bush was uninformed it was because he set the policy and didn't care about the details as long as they what they came up with supported attacking Iraq and they could sell it to Congress and the American people. And Powell's job was to sell it too. Powell had access to State Dept's INR intel as well as other agencies and information if he was interested. (And Powell's State department was already planning for post-Saddam Iraq in summer of 2002.)

Yes, there was a "cabal" and they were all part of it.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 01:38 PM
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16. I seriously love you.
:loveya: :-)
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 01:42 PM
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17. My gawd. WTF?! Well, they got they guy they wanted in office, now they
want RATINGS. The media put Bush in office, and they may take his ass out. Oh the irony.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 01:43 PM
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18. This clip exemplifies the crucial flaw of the neocons
They believe in their own superiority so much, that it doesn't occur to them that they need (at a minimum) a good, believable lie, if not actual evidence. They work from the viewpoint that the people are stupid and need to be led, and can't really think for themselves. So since they grossly underestimate the populace, they come up with half-assed lies that are refutable on their face, because they think no one is as smart or as clever as they are. They will go down in flames because of this-they can't change their flaw as they have shown repeatedly-and the public isn't buying it anymore.
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slybacon9 Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 02:43 PM
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19. Unreal. KnR
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 05:03 PM
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20. kick and nominated
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 05:52 PM
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21. Right now your website seems to be down :cry:
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :cry:
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 05:52 PM
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22. Excellent !
How was it so many of us on DU knew this 'reasons for war' was a pack of lies even before the whole truth has come out?
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 08:33 PM
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24. That's worth of a rightjous kick... we knew.....first msm track on this
story in the CNN's immediacy in it's presentation that was documented has ever been seen in this context against * speech
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MrDale Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 08:37 PM
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25. link doesnt work for me
www.canofun.com doesnt work for me....any other links?
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 01:56 AM
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27. I am having trouble with the link tonight. n.t
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 02:01 AM
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29. Me too.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 02:01 AM
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28. Tagging for later. Link's not working right now.
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 03:25 AM
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31. CanOFun is down
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 12:30 AM
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32. "The powers that be are not terribly interested in whether or not
Curveball knows what he's talking about." From an email message that CNN showed on this video. An email that Powell was never shown according to this video.
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