The Bush, Cheney perpetual crime machine: ~ 843 days and counting

[understandinglife]

As of 1630 PST, October 30, 2005, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney remain in persistent violation of Executive Order 12958.

Mr Libby signed an SF312 as has Mr Rove.

Mr Libby reported both to Mr Bush and Mr Cheney.

Mr Rove reports to Mr Bush.

Irrespective of Mr Libby's resignation on October 28, 2005, he still has not been sanctioned by either of his bosses, and neither has Mr Rove. Mr Bush and Mr Cheney continue to be willfully derelict to their responsibilities as specified by Executive Order 12958:

THE WHITE HOUSE OBLIGATIONS UNDER EXECUTIVE ORDER 12958

Under the executive order, the White House has an affirmative obligation to investigate and take remedial action separate and apart from any ongoing criminal investigation. The executive order specifically provides that when a breach occurs, each agency must "take appropriate and prompt corrective action." (see Reference, below) This includes a determination of whether individual employees improperly disseminated or obtained access to classified information.

The executive order further provides that sanctions for violations are not optional. The executive order expressly provides: "Officers and employees of the United States Government … shall be subject to appropriate sanctions if they knowingly, willfully, or negligently … disclose to unauthorized persons information properly classified."

There is no evidence that the White House complied with these requirements.

Reference:

The above is quoted directly from Karl Rove's Non-Disclosure Agreement, a Fact Sheet prepared by Congressman Henry Waxman:

http://www.democrats.reform.house.gov/Documents/20050715140232-17725.pdf

Executive Order No. 12958, Classified National Security Information:

http://www.archives.gov/isoo/policy-documents/eo-12958-amendment.html

http://www.archives.gov/isoo/policy-documents/eo-12958-implementing-directive.html

On July 18, 2005, Mr Bush and his Press Secretary, Mr McClellan were challenged to comment on the fact that Mr Bush had yet to do anything regarding the outing of a CIA covert operative. Let's reminisce for a moment:

Q What is his problem? Two years, and he can't call Rove in and find out what the hell is going on? I mean, why is it so difficult to find out the facts? It costs thousands, millions of dollars, two years, it tied up how many lawyers? All he's got to do is call him in.

MR. McCLELLAN: You just heard from the President. He said he doesn't know all the facts. I don't know all the facts.

Q Why?

MR. McCLELLAN: We want to know what the facts are. Because --

Q Why doesn't he ask him?

Link:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/07/20050718-2.html

Bill Scher was paying attention and he blogged that day at Huffington Post comments that some WaPo, NYT, LAT, ...., reporter ought to use as the basis of an article they publish tomorrow.

By July 18, 2005, as Mr Scher tallies, Rove had been in violation of his SF 312 at least 738 days - same, give or take a day or two, Mr Libby. To wit:

It has been 738 days since Karl Rove violated his obligations under Standard Form 312 without the White House taking “corrective action.”

SF312:

http://contacts.gsa.gov/webforms.nsf/%200/03A78F16A522716785256A69004E23F6/$file/SF312.pdf

Classified Information Nondisclosure Agreement (Standard Form 312) -- Briefing Booklet

http://www.archives.gov/isoo/training/standard-form-312.html (read carefully the section on 18 USC 793 and 798)

As GOPers furiously try to bat back The Leak scandal, they generally argue that 1) Rove got his info from a non-classified source, a journalist, and 2) Rove didn't know that info was classified. That theoretically could save him under one of the laws in question, the Intelligence Identities Protection Act. But it would not save him from his SF-312 nondisclosure agreement.

Under SF-312, it does not matter where he got the info from. It does not matter if he knew it was classified.

If he came across some gossip about a CIA agent, he has an obligation to check with the CIA before he goes blabbing about it.

And under SF-312, the White House cannot simply sit back and wait for a Special Counsel criminal investigation to finish its job. It must do its own investigation and any breach of security requires "corrective action."

If Rove was simply being careless with classified info, he should have his clearance revoked. If he was using classified info for political payback, he should be fired. It's been 738 days. Where is the corrective action?

Link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-scher/738-days_b_4335.html

Every place you see "Rove" you can add "Libby."

It's now been (at least) 843 days that both Mr Libby and Mr Rove have been in violation of their respective SF312 obligations.

Mr. Cheney and Mr. Bush have not applied any sanctions.

The neoconster tradition of anti-Americanism is thriving tonight at the White House and at the Vice President's United States Naval Observatory residence.

Isn't it time they are both forced to resign and then dealt with by the full application of the law?

I had posted the following two past threads and received the request that I post them again in a new thread:

"Either way, the president has painted himself into a corner."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4148545

Bush committed another crime today, in plain sight, on National TV

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4130407

I hope the new thread is of use as we all attempt to focus folk on the persistent disregard for our National Security that is standard operating procedure for the Bush neoconster regime.

Peace.

[bleever]

1. Crimes in plain sight. * is bound by law to chase guys like Rove out

of the WH with the full force of his powers.

His own failure to do so is a threat to our national security.


He should find the dignity to resign and spare the nation the shame.


:thumbsup:

[understandinglife]

4. "But on July 14, 2003, our lives were irrevocably changed. ..."

That was the day columnist Robert Novak identified Valerie as an operative, divulging a secret that had been known only to me, her parents and her brother.

Valerie told me later that it was like being hit in the stomach. Twenty years of service had gone down the drain. She immediately started jotting down a checklist of things she needed to do to limit the damage to people she knew and to projects she was working on. She wondered how her friends would feel when they learned that what they thought they knew about her was a lie.

It was payback — cheap political payback by the administration for an article I had written contradicting an assertion President Bush made in his 2003 State of the Union address. Payback not just to punish me but to intimidate other critics as well.

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From Our 27 Months Of Hell by Joseph Wilson on October 30, 2005

More at the link:

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-oe-wilson29oct29,0,940864.story?track=mostemailedlink

Those crimes have yet to be remedied. Bush & Cheney continue their perpetual disregard for the law and for our National Security.

Nothing erases those facts.


Peace.

[Sydnie]

2. Thank you UL

Great stuff in that thread that all should read!

[understandinglife]

3. Good to know you consider it helpful.

Thank you.


Peace.

[understandinglife]

5. "As long as Karl Rove stays in the White House doing the terrible job ...

... he is doing and bringing the stench of scandal with him every time he walks in the door, the Bush presidency will remain a powerless gang that couldn’t shoot straight. And the ‘dodge the bullet’ chorus will never understand that.

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‘The White House dodged a bullet’ is the single stupidest bit of nonstop echo punditry we’ve heard this weekend. Karl Rove not getting indicted presents the White House with a worse problem than an indictment would have. The problem being — Rove is going to go to work Monday morning at the White House with TV cameras following his every move and with 47% of the public believing he did something wrong, according to today’s Washington Post poll.

What the White House desperately needed on Friday was Rove’s resignation. As long as he keeps his White House pass, Rove is a cancer on the presidency.

From Rove Is a Cancer On The Presidency by Lawrence O'Donnell on October 30, 2005

More at the link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lawrence-odonnell/rove-is-a-cancer-on-the-p_b_9811.html

Important to remember the essential role Mr O'Donnell has contributed to the effort to reveal the truth regarding Bush and the neoconsters deception of the Nation and their willingness to destroy important National Security infrastructure as to hide their lies.

Let's return to July 7, 2005 and read something of considerable importance:

One of the most important observations made by O'Donnell is precisely the fact that "all the judges who have seen the prosecutor’s secret evidence firmly believe he is pursuing a very serious crime, and they have done everything they can to help him get an indictment."

Specifically, O'Donnell notes:

"In February, Circuit Judge David Tatel joined his colleagues’ order to Cooper and Miller despite his own, very lonely finding that indeed there is a federal privilege for reporters that can shield them from being compelled to testify to grand juries and give up sources. He based his finding on Rule 501 of the Federal Rules of Evidence, which authorizes federal courts to develop new privileges “in the light of reason and experience.” Tatel actually found that reason and experience “support recognition of a privilege for reporters’ confidential sources.” But Tatel still ordered Cooper and Miller to testify because he found that the privilege had to give way to “the gravity of the suspected crime.”

Judge Tatel’s opinion has eight blank pages in the middle of it where he discusses the secret information the prosecutor has supplied only to the judges to convince them that the testimony he is demanding is worth sending reporters to jail to get. The gravity of the suspected crime is presumably very well developed in those redacted pages. Later, Tatel refers to “having carefully scrutinized voluminous classified filings.”

Some of us have theorized that the prosecutor may have given up the leak case in favor of a perjury case, but Tatel still refers to it simply as a case “which involves the alleged exposure of a covert agent.” Tatel wrote a 41-page opinion in which he seemed eager to make new law -- a federal reporters’ shield law -- but in the end, he couldn’t bring himself to do it in this particular case. In his final paragraph, he says he “might have” let Cooper and Miller off the hook “were the leak at issue in this case less harmful to national security.”

From The One Very Good Reason Karl Rove Might Be Indicted

by Lawrence O'Donnell

July 7, 2005

Link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/lawrence-odonnell/the-one-very-good-reason-_3769.html

And:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4084675&mesg_id=4084675

Mr Bush & Mr Cheney your crimes are compounding as you sleep.


Peace.

[understandinglife]

6. Indictment: "LIBBY held security clearances entitling him

... to access to classified information. As a person with such clearances, LIBBY was obligated by applicable laws and regulations, including Title 18, United States Code, Section 793, and Executive Order 12958 (as modified by Executive Order 13292), not to disclose classified information to persons not authorized to receive such information, and otherwise to exercise proper care to safeguard classified information against unauthorized disclosure. On or about January 23, 2001, LIBBY executed a written Classified Information Nondisclosure Agreement, stating in part that I understand and accept that by being granted access to classified information, special confidence and trust shall be placed in me by the United States Government, and that I have been advised that the unauthorized disclosure, unauthorized retention, or negligent handling of classified information by me could cause damage or irreparable injury to the United States or could be used to advantage by a foreign nation.

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http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/osc/documents/libby_indictment_28102005.pdf

Clear enough.

Just a matter of time.


Peace.

[understandinglife]

7. "Indictment Dissected: Libby’s Knowledge of Plame’s Covert Identity"

In at least three instances, it appears from the facts outlined in the indictments that Libby was aware that Valerie Plame was an undercover CIA agent.

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UPDATE:

A reader points out a crucial piece of information from the indictment strongly indicates that Libby knew Plame worked undercover and then misrepresented that knowledge.

The indictment says Cheney told Libby that Plame worked in the “Counterproliferation Division” (see #9), an agency in the CIA’s Directorate of Operations. But when Libby later talked to Miller, he told her, according to Miller’s notes, that “Wife works at WINPAC.” WINPAC is part of the CIA’s Directorate of Intelligence. Why is this significant?

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More at the link:

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/29/indictment-dissected-libbys-knowledge-of-plames-covert-identity

And, these DU threads are relevant to item # 9 on page 5 of the Indictment:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5205585

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5214947


Peace.

[understandinglife]

8. Fitzgerald: "I'll be blunt. That talking point won't fly."

FITZGERALD: I'll be blunt.

That talking point won't fly. If you're doing a national security investigation, if you're trying to find out who compromised the identity of a CIA officer and you go before a grand jury and if the charges are proven -- because remember there's a presumption of innocence -- but if it is proven that the chief of staff to the vice president went before a federal grand jury and lied under oath repeatedly and fabricated a story about how he learned this information, how he passed it on, and we prove obstruction of justice, perjury and false statements to the FBI, that is a very, very serious matter.

And I'd say this: I think people might not understand this. We, as prosecutors and FBI agents, have to deal with false statements, obstruction of justice and perjury all the time. The Department of Justice charges those statutes all the time.

When I was in New York working as a prosecutor, we brought those cases because we realized that the truth is the engine of our judicial system. And if you compromise the truth, the whole process is lost.

In Philadelphia, where Jack works, they prosecute false statements and obstruction of justice.

When I got to Chicago, I knew the people before me had prosecuted false statements, obstruction and perjury cases.

And we do it all the time. And if a truck driver pays a bribe or someone else does something where they go into a grand jury afterward and lie about it, they get indicted all the time.

Any notion that anyone might have that there's a different standard for a high official, that this is somehow singling out obstruction of justice and perjury, is upside down.

If these facts are true, if we were to walk away from this and not charge obstruction of justice and perjury, we might as well just hand in our jobs. Because our jobs, the criminal justice system, is to make sure people tell us the truth. And when it's a high-level official and a very sensitive investigation, it is a very, very serious matter that no one should take lightly.

Full transcript:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/28/AR2005102801340.html

Clear enough.

Anyone think this is over?

If so, read it again.


Peace.

[understandinglife]

9. Herbert: "More than anything else, the simple truth has the potential ...

... to destroy the Bush gang.

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Mr. Libby himself was spreading the word about Ms. Wilson and, as Patrick Fitzgerald, the special counsel investigating the case, asserted, "he lied about it afterwards, under oath and repeatedly."

Who knows why Mr. Libby did what he did. Misplaced loyalty? An irrepressible need to be punished for his sins? Maybe he's just a dope. Of greater consequence for the republic is the fact that Mr. Libby is no hapless functionary who somehow lost his way. He's a symptom, the hacking cough that should alert us to a dangerous national disease, and that's the Bush administration's culture of deceit.

Scooter Libby was the main man of the most powerful vice president in the history of the United States. The most important aspect of the prosecution of Mr. Libby for perjury and obstruction of justice is the tremendous spotlight it is likely to shine on the way this administration does its business - its relentless, almost pathological, undermining of the truth, and its ruthless treatment of individuals who cling to the old-fashioned notion that the truth matters.

Condoleezza Rice, for example, gave us nightmare fantasies of mushroom clouds ....

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From Smoke Gets in Our Eyes by Bob Herbert on October 31, 2005

Link:

http://select.nytimes.com/2005/10/31/opinion/31herbert.html?hp=&pagewanted=print

Lies, lies, and more lies - damn lies, treasonous lies, murderous lies -- lies of torture and unspeakable slaughter of innocents, infant and aged.

And, total mockery of an oath that I and hundreds of thousands like me have taken to hold secure, information essential to our National Security.

Mr Fitzgerald will still be bringing indictments and convicting neoconsters when he's 60.


Peace.

[understandinglife]

10. Krugman: "we realized early on that this administration was cynical, ...

... dishonest and incompetent, ...

What do I mean by essential fraudulence? Basically, I mean the way an administration with an almost unbroken record of policy failure has nonetheless achieved political dominance through a carefully cultivated set of myths.

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The point is that this administration's political triumphs have never been based on its real-world achievements, which are few and far between. The administration has, instead, built its power on myths: the myth of presidential leadership, the ugly myth that the administration is patriotic while its critics are not. Take away those myths, and the administration has nothing left.

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The fact remains that officials close to both Mr. Cheney and Mr. Bush leaked the identity of an undercover operative for political reasons.

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First, politicians will have to admit that they were misled. Second, the news media will have to face up to their role in allowing incompetents to pose as leaders and political apparatchiks to pose as patriots.

From Ending the Fraudulence by Paul Krugman on October 31, 2005

More at the link:

http://select.nytimes.com/2005/10/31/opinion/31krugman.html?hp=&pagewanted=print

Because those 'myths' are being dispelled, while I consider this an excellent explication of the "essential fraudulence" of Bush and the neoconsters, I disagree with Mr Krugman that they will persist for three more years.


Peace.

[understandinglife]

11. "So the long nightmare won't really be over until journalists ask ...

... themselves: what did we know, when did we know it, and why didn't we tell the public?

That, Mr. Krugman, is truly the heart-of-the-matter. Bravo!


Peace.

[Sydnie]

12. What was it Kerry said? The most corrupt bastards or something

like that? He was right. If only they had listened and not dismissed him.

Thanks so much UL for putting all this together!

[understandinglife]

13. "The country and the Congress were misled into war. I regret that we were

... not given the truth; as I said more than a year ago, knowing what we know now, I would not have gone to war in Iraq. And knowing now the full measure of the Bush Administration’s duplicity and incompetence, I doubt there are many members of Congress who would give them the authority they abused so badly. I know I would not. The truth is, if the Bush Administration had come to the United States Senate and acknowledged there was no “slam dunk case” that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, acknowledged that Iraq was not connected to 9/11, there never would have even been a vote to authorize the use of force -- just as there’s no vote today to invade North Korea, Iran, Cuba, or a host of regimes we rightfully despise.

I understand that as much as we might wish it, we can’t rewind the tape of history. There is, as Robert Kennedy once said, ‘enough blame to go around,’ and I accept my share of the responsibility. But the mistakes of the past, no matter who made them, are no justification for marching ahead into a future of miscalculations and misjudgments and the loss of American lives with no end in sight. We each have a responsibility, to our country and our conscience, to be honest about where we should go from here. It is time for those of us who believe in a better course to say so plainly and unequivocally.

Link to Kerry's speech:

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/speeches/spc_2005_10_26.html

I do not detect any spin or ambiguity in Senator Kerry's statements.

Bush & Cheney are incapable of holding themselves similarly accountable and, much worse they continue to propagate their crimes against our National Security and humanity.


Peace.

[DemReadingDU]

14. Recommended - Fitzgerald for truth

[Cosmocat]

15. I have been saying this all along ...

These guys sign nondisclosure agreements that would require their immediate suspsension at the very least for releasing information like this ... The ONLY person in the media I have seen who has brought it up was Stepanopholous (sp) a couple months ago ...

And, the media has let this admin take a pass on doing its own internal ... It just is part of the whole thing where EVERY possible standard for our president and staff has been dumbed down to the absolute lowest level ...

They were let to just sit on this butts while "there is an ongoing investigation" and will continue to do so "while there are ongoing judicial processes" or whatever ...

[understandinglife]

17. Exactly. And, that is why I was willing to act on the request to repost ..

... this information -- so more people would see it and to enable them to have a single URL to cut/paste and send to as many media folk and others as possible.

When you read Fitzgerald's masterful indictment you see a comprehensive framework, not just for trial, but for all the counts yet to be brought -- it all begins with the fact that LIBBY signed an SF312. The same applies to ROVE; and to any member of WHIG; and to CHENEY; and, to BUSH.

Oh, and welcome to DU and thank you for your comments.

Peace.

[Sydnie]

16. This thread is important - needs one more rec to hit greatest page

Please rec and get it there.

[understandinglife]

18. Swopa: A trail of Plame, from Air Force Two to Air Force One

... by the short-lived passage Josh Marshall (http://tinyurl.com/dbrs2) rescued from a Washington Post story today:

the vice president instructed his aide to alert reporters of an attack launched that morning on Wilson's credibility by Fleischer, according to a well-placed source.

Libby talked to Miller and Cooper. That same day, another administration official who has not been identified publicly returned a call from Walter Pincus of The Post. He "veered off the precise matter we were discussing" and told him that Wilson's trip was a "boondoggle" set up by Plame, Pincus has written in Nieman Reports.

The part in italics was deleted from a later version of the Post article (http://tinyurl.com/bexz6).

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If Ari was returning a series of calls -- and let's say he had help from someone else, since there were several calls to return -- and was telling them about Wilson's wife, wouldn't that make Air Force One the likely place -- as I've been saying since mid-July (http://tinyurl.com/75xgx) -- where "two top White House officials called at least six Washington journalists and disclosed the identity and occupation of Wilson's wife" (in the words of the Post's famous 2003 story (http://tinyurl.com/p7lf) that broke the scandal open)?

What I think the Post and Marshall are trying to imply is that those calls from Air Force One were specifically orchestrated by Libby, based on Cheney's instructions on Air Force Two. And special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has sources on both planes to back that theory up.

More at the link:

http://www.needlenose.com/node/view/2205

And, I can just imagine one of those folk on AF1 shouting back at Cheney and Libby on AF2 -- "get that *&^%er Wilson."

18 USC 793 (http://tinyurl.com/8surl), 794 (http://tinyurl.com/dqtb2), & 798 .... and conspiracy to commit, as well.


Peace.

[texpatriot2004]

19. Isn't there one charge per everyday * fails to act on this? nm

[understandinglife]

21. One would think so; same for Cheney. But, no matter what, they've ...

... been in persistent and willful violation since Rove and Libby started leaking to reporters the identity of Valerie Plame Wilson as a covert CIA operative working on WMD.


Peace.

[understandinglife]

20. Time to charge Rove: "Reporter Learned Agent's Identity from Rove"

And, time to charge LIBBY -- "Matthew Cooper Says I. Lewis Libby Confirmed Information"

Oct. 31 2005 — One of the reporters at the center of the investigation into the leak of the identity of an undercover CIA officer, says he first learned the agent's name from President Bush's top political advisor, Karl Rove.

Time magazine reporter Matt Cooper also said today in an interview with "Good Morning America," that the vice president's chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, confirmed to him that Ambassador Joseph Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, was a covert CIA operative.

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"There is no question. I first learned about Valerie Plame working at the CIA from Karl Rove," Cooper said.

Libby has since claimed that he heard the Plame rumors from other reporters. Cooper disputed that version of events. "I don't remember it happening that way," he said. "I was taking notes at the time and I feel confident."

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Link:

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/CIALeak/story?id=1265736&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

Charge'um and book'um, both, for violations of, at least, 18 USC 793 and conspiracy to violate 18 USC 793.


Peace.

[understandinglife]

22. "Libby responded that there would be complications at the CIA in

... disclosing that information publicly ...

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Let's not forget that Scooter Libby is, by all accounts, a very intelligent and meticulous person. He's a graduate of Columbia Law School and an experienced attorney, formerly a partner at a large law firm. This scandal first captured headlines in July of 2003, just weeks after Libby had discussed Plame with several reporters. Libby then had three months to think about his own role in this affair and to decide what he was going to tell investigators if they ever came knocking on his door (which they eventually did in October 2003). Libby surely used that time to familiarize himself (if he wasn't familiar already) with the Intelligence Identities Protection Act and the Espionage Act, and to determine, as best he could, whether he or anyone else in the White House had violated either of those two laws. Libby was also no doubt aware that lying to federal investigators is, in and of itself, a serious felony.

The prevailing Republican talking points would have us believe that after doing this risk calculus, Libby concluded that no underlying crime had been committed, but nevertheless decided to commit multiple felonies by lying and misleading federal investigators. Is that possible? Certainly. Stranger things have happened. Is that likely? I don't think it is.

First, there is plenty of circumstantial evidence that Libby knew (or at least suspected) that Plame's affiliation with the CIA was sensitive information. To take just one example, the indictment reports that on June 14, 2003, Libby spoke to his principal deputy (presumably John Hannah) about Plame. Hannah asked Libby if this information could be shared with the media. Libby "responded that there would be complications at the CIA in disclosing that information publicly, and that he could not discuss the matter on a non-secure telephone line." Another example: in his July 8, 2003 conversation with Judith Miller, Libby went out of his way to ask Miller to attribute the information about Wilson's wife to a "former Hill staffer" as opposed to an administration official.

This circumstantial evidence supports the inference that Libby had reason to worry that his own conduct might have violated either the IIPA or the Espionage Act, which would clearly provide a motive for him to lie to investigators. Still, if Libby thought that only his own ass was on the line, it's hard to see why he would have tried to cover up one possible felony by committing a handful of certain felonies.

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From Libby's Motive, Cheney's Exposure, and Why Ari Fleischer Might be Walter Pincus' Source by The Anonymous Liberal on October 30, 2005

More at the link:

http://www.anonymousliberal.com/2005/10/libbys-motive-cheneys-exposure-and-why.html

Thoughtful; worth the read.

Libby had to know that an investigation of the outing of WMD expert Valerie Plame Wilson would lead to an eventual exposition of what I consider a very likely fact -- that Cheney had direct dealings with her and that she may have been one of the most persistent CIA personnel in blocking the use of known forgeries in making any claims regarding Iraq's WMD intentions post 1991. She would have never spoken to her husband about such interactions because Amb Wilson would have never had, and still would not have, "need to know" such information.


Peace.


Peace.

[bleever]

23. dupe

[bleever]

24. Kick, because everyone should know there is a crime happening

each and every day that the WH fails to follow its own specific statutory obligation to investigate the leak and take all necessary measures to ensure that national security is not compromised.

[understandinglife]

27. Yes, and the crimes continue to happen -- now up to ~ 847 days ...

Peace.

[Pithy Cherub]

25. Excellent Information! Fitzgerald has the patience of a saint.

These White House people never expected to be called into account. So the usual covering your tracks didn't start until too late to save themselves. Fitgerald is peeling back the onion and these people are making the case by their deceit, outrageous lies and duplicitousness. Watch and wait are now the keys to this investigation.

Excellent Post UL!

[understandinglife]

26. Newsweek finally, barely, starts to get a clue ...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9899512/site/newsweek/

What can you expect from a rag that allows Mickey Isikoff to spew ...


Peace.