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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 12:51 PM
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Radio repub advocates force to rescue Schiavo and death to interference
I advocate the use of force to rescue Terri Schiavo from being starved to death.
I further advocate the killing of anyone who interferes with such rescue. -- Hal Turner


http://www.halturnershow.com /

This isn't legal whether the theatre's on fire or not, is it?

One time GOP county chair
http://web.archive.org/web/19990422182712/http://www.fa...

and former congressional candidate
http://web.archive.org/web/20000521220559/www.turner200...

(via- http://patriotboy.blogspot.com )
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 12:53 PM
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1. no, this is screaming fire in a crowded theater
and inciting a riot....

It is also indicative of the winds the bushes have sown, I hope they enjoy the shit storm, because this coudl get out of control very easily.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:03 PM
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16. I think the media should be held accountable for allowing Randell et
all spue his vile over the air this week. For a while it was a very voilile situation and if someone was hurt/killed the media played a big role!!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:24 PM
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30. You will love my blog then shining light on this
http://www.halturnershow.com /
I advocate the use of force to rescue Terri Schiavo from being starved to death.
I further advocate the killing of anyone who interferes with such rescue. -- Hal Turner
Now in case anybody reading this is wondering... this is incitement of a riot or screaming fire in a crowded theater. Now here is the question, will the Feds do a thing? I doubt it.

Now there is something that people should realize, if you actually do read the Bible.

"For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind." - Bible: Hosea (8 :7
This is what is at stake and they have indeed sown winds, and they are getting strong across the land. We shall reap the whirlwind and go down a very dark path. This is just the beginning, but for those who love our democracy this is the time to stand tall against the Extremists among us, especially those with access to a microphone.


This is the last post on my blog

http://plubius.myblogsite.com/blog
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 12:53 PM
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2. Send that to the FBI
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 12:57 PM
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9. That was my thought also
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:01 PM
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15. Send it to TIA and the Homeland Security honchos in your area
Raise a stink. This is a terrorist threat, an exhortation to illegal action against established authority.

Nail the bastard by his own party's legislation.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:04 PM
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17. no, we should not advocate linking this with terrorist or Patrrot Act
inspired laws. NO
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:08 PM
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20. Agreed.
Let's not make use of the things we despise just because they happen to favor us out on a given issue.

Jay
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:13 PM
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23. What are you guys talking about?
Advocating murder was a crime LONG before the Patriot Act.

And his advocacy of truck bombing the hospice is the very definition of terrorism. It's absolutely no different from what Osama did.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:30 PM
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37. Yes It's A Crime.
I think that what I/we are trying to say is, let's not endorse the "Patriot" Act or "War on Terra" by deriding it at every opportunity only to turn to it when it suits our needs. Incitement to riot? Yes. Terrorism? ehh.

Jay

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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:43 PM
Response to Reply #37
44. Check his site: "... that Hospice ought to be blown up by a truck bomb."
Heck, if calling for a building to be truck-bombed doesn't rise to the level of advocating terrorism, I don't know what does.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:50 PM
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49. Then He Should Be Indicted...
for inciting violence and riot. Just, please, don't bring terra into it.

Jay
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 02:13 PM
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59. We'll have to agree to disagree. This sounds like the very definition...
Edited on Fri Mar-25-05 02:23 PM by Zenlitened
... of terrorism to me.


(edit missing words 'agree to')
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:03 PM
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69. Would you consider what Timothy McVeigh did an act of terrorism?
Edited on Fri Mar-25-05 03:03 PM by Sandpiper
If so, this guy is advocating people doing the very the thing that McVeigh did to the OKC Federal Building.


There is such a thing as terrorism, despite the political baggage it carries and whether or not you find the word personally distasteful.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:28 PM
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71. Yes.
But this is not the same. One was a calculating killer the other is a hot headed radio personality who is caught-up in the heat of the moment. Like I said, bust his ass just keep terra out of it.

Jay
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 07:30 PM
Response to Reply #69
105. I was JUST thinking that!
About Timothy McVeigh and Oklahoma City. It's not like there's no precedent for right-wing terrorism.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:43 PM
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45. The RW's problem is that they use these laws against non-terrorists.
They are perfectly happy to charge environmental extremists with terrorism for burning SUV's or unoccupied housing developments, but people who bomb abortion clinics or murder abortion providers are simply charged with murder or arson.

Clearly, if you commit or advocate violence against people as a means of forcing political change, you are guilty of terrorism, imo.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:47 PM
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47. It Might Feel Good At The Time,...
Edited on Fri Mar-25-05 01:48 PM by jayfish
but do we really want to operate like the wingers?

Jay
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:57 PM
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52. I don't consider that 'acting like a winger'.
If a left-wing radio personality was advocating blowing up an evangelical church to protest their support of the Iraq war or blowing up the Heritage Foundation to protest their support of right-wing causes, I'd report them too.

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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 02:12 PM
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57. You Used Examples...
of how the wingers react to buttress your point. That's why I made the association. We are actually on the same track. I just want to keep DHS out of it.

Jay
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #57
123. DHS = Department of Hot Shit!
:)
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 02:13 PM
Response to Reply #47
58. Here's the thing: Investigating this as potential terrorism...
... seems to be APPROPRIATE. An appropriate application of the law. That's a significant difference.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:06 PM
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19. Good point about Homeland Security. The guy is advocating terrorism.
He deserves time in Gitmo.

How can the govt allow him to advocate a truck bombing against civilians?

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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 08:07 PM
Response to Reply #19
126. If something happens, you could probably check laws on incitement
and bust some butts. I hope so. Accomplices before the fact, that sort of thing.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:22 PM
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28. Send it to the FCC - http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/complaints.html nt
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:44 PM
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46. (Patriot act aside) I agree
This nutcase is goint to insite a bigger nutcase to hurt, mame or murder some innocent police officer or hospice staffer. He needs to be arrested for inciting a hate crime.

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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 12:54 PM
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3. Rescue and killing by whom?
I wonder if Turner advocates armed rebellion or a police state. My thought is it's surely the latter, but either way's asinine.
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democrat in Tallahassee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 12:54 PM
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4. welcome to the culture of life!
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walkon Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:23 PM
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29. Make that
KKKulture of Life
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Shadow-moses Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:59 AM
Response to Reply #29
116. lol, nice one dude.
you got that right brother!

from now on when i hear bush say "culture of life" im going to mentaly replace it with the corect spelling. ;)
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amb123 Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 01:26 PM
Response to Reply #4
122. "Believe in the Culture of Life or I'll KILL YOU!"
:loveya:
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liberal43110 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 12:55 PM
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5. The inconsistency.....
of advocating the killing of anyone who gets in their way is so blatant....how do they not see this?
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 12:56 PM
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6. This guy wants to kill somebody
ATTENTION AOL OPERATIVES:
PLEASE SEND TO ME THE SUBSCRIBER NAME AND ADDRESS OF AOL USER KNOWN AS: "ABSOLUTELYNOGAME"
Either send the info by anonymous remailer to my e-mail box HERE
or mail the details to:
Hal Turner
1906 Paterson Plank Road
North Bergen, NJ 07047

Absolutelynogame, if you are reading this message, be careful.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 12:56 PM
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7. Jesus, that isn't even the worst stuff on his site. Look at this.
PINELLAS PARK PRICKS ARREST KID FOR "TRESPASSING;" WAS TRYING TO GIVE A GLASS OF WATER TO TERRI SCHIAVO

These guys deserve to have the shit kicked out of them, and that Hospice ought to be blown up by a truck bomb.

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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:24 PM
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31. link?
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 12:57 PM
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8. Great line ...
CONGRATULATIONS, AMERICA. THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE SUNK TO:

PINELLAS PARK PRICKS ARREST KID FOR "TRESPASSING;" WAS TRYING TO GIVE A GLASS OF WATER TO TERRI SCHIAVO



These guys deserve to have the shit kicked out of them, and that
Hospice ought to be blown up by a truck bomb.


What a clusterfuck.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 08:16 AM
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118. Forget Homeland Security - send this info to the Pinellas Park Police
Edited on Sun Mar-27-05 08:17 AM by Clark2008
Department.
Either one of those guys pictured probably could kick the living shit out of Hal Turner with one foot tied behind their backs.
I can understand the poster's point above about not using the Patriot Act for our own game, but I'm bettin' the Pinellas Park Police would LOVE to know they're being threatened by some jerkoff in New Jersey.
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jackster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 12:57 PM
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10. this is unfreaking believeable....
did anyone else hear the sister say at some point that she wanted to take Terri to the mall? Don't know how old the clip was exactly, but looked to be no more than a couple of years old anyway. She wants to take her outside so the sun can shine on her face - not a bad thing - but then she went on to say she wanted to take her to the mall! My God, what kind of people are these?

I have a very uneasy feeling about this family - my heart aches for them AND for the husband as well - only there's just something not quite right about them - this circus, the history, the bulemia, I don't know - I think there if there is a judgement day they might have a lot of 'splainin' to do.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 12:58 PM
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11. This guy's a fucking nut and very dangerous!
Edited on Fri Mar-25-05 12:59 PM by Cooley Hurd
From the http://patriotboy.blogspot.com link:

<snip>
...he had posted Judge Lefkow's photo and address on his website in an attempt to "rib" her for ruling against fellow neo-nazi, Matt Hale, in a trademark case.

<snip>
Mr. Turner's comment:

Now that the Lefkow killings have been proven totally unrelated to any evil white racists, all of you can take your foot out of your mouth.

But rest assured, I will continue to stoke the fire of public criticism upon judges; giving out their home addresses and the like.

These high and mighty people have had a good laugh for a long time, thinking they were untouchable. Not anymore!

</snip>

The feds need to visit Mr Turner, and soon! :mad:
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 12:58 PM
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12. Also send it to the Pinellas County Sheriff
Since that is where the violence is most likely to take place.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 02:04 PM
Response to Reply #12
54. And the North Bergen, NJ police
as that is where the nutcase lives.
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 12:59 PM
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13. Tell him to get his pussy ass from behind the mic...
And to the hospital! I hate people that always want someone else to do the dirty work. what a wuss.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 12:59 PM
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14. This Hal Turner guy sounds like another Michael Savage....
...another wing-nut talk-show host. On the radio can these guys advocate freedom of the press rights, regardless of what they say? My feeling is they can't be above the law, so why do they brazenly say these things?
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:16 PM
Response to Reply #14
25. Delete
Edited on Fri Mar-25-05 01:17 PM by Sandpiper
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:06 PM
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18. Keith Olbermann could use it too.
Friendly congressmen/women would appreciate this too.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:09 PM
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21. Hal Turner is a white supremacist. Lovely chap. eom
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:12 PM
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22. tampa FBI addy
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:15 PM
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24. HI Rose, have you sent this to Keith O?
If not, I will. ok?
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:25 PM
Response to Reply #24
32. Sure!
Send it :hi:
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:36 PM
Response to Reply #32
40. Ok, I sent it! Hope he reports on it; I think
Don't know if it will help matters, or just spread the call for violence to the crazies. Oh yeah, only the intelligent watch Keith!
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:18 PM
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26. This guy has failed the Brandenburg v. Ohio test for Protected Speech
Non-obscene speech is not protected if it is:

directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:19 PM
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27. I've alwasy considered them to be fascists
...but anarchists? This indeed is a new twist.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:26 PM
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33. Just sent this to the Tampa FBI office by email
To whom this may concern,
The actions of Hal Turner were just brought to my attention and I felt you shoud read for yourselves what this public figure is advocating in the Terri Schiavo matter which includes violence and killing human beings they deem to be interfering with the rescue of Ms. Schiavo. In view of what happened in Chicago to a federal judge(Lefkow) I am concerned that Mr. Hal Turner is advocating violence to the point of killing people. Please review this.





http://www.halturnershow.com /



I advocate the use of force to rescue Terri Schiavo from being starved to death.
I further advocate the killing of anyone who interferes with such rescue. -- Hal Turner
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:39 PM
Response to Reply #33
42. I just notified the Supervisor at the Pinellas Park Police, they are
handling the security for the Schiavo case. They did not know of the web site and were happy to get the info. The FBI took this seriously and so did the Pinellas police.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #33
64. Well done, ma'am
Have one on me!!
:toast:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:26 PM
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34. I hope they do it!
something's gotta give soon. I'd rather they start it than us.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:28 PM
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35. Hal Turner should be made this weekend's "whipping boy."
Let's rake him over the coals! :mad:

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:37 PM
Response to Reply #35
41. who wants to nominate him for the ten conservative
idiots of the week?

These cockoroaches need some light shone on them
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:51 PM
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50. How do we do that? nt
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 02:41 PM
Response to Reply #50
65. Nominate this IDIOT! ... Here you go:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 02:41 PM
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66. Nominate this IDIOT!
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:29 PM
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36. This Turner fellow sounds like a piece of work
From the website of the Hal Turner Show:

Hal unabashedly caters to "straight, white people." Some call that "racist" yet they say nothing about "Black Entertainment Television", "Black STARS Movie Channel", the "Miss Black America Contest." They also say nothing about outlets catering to hispanics such as "Telemundo", "Univision" and others. Hal decided that if blacks and hispanics could have media outlets catering to them, White people should be able to have a media outlet too! The Hal Turner Show is such an outlet.

How many times have we heard that canard from white supremacists trying to apologize for other white supremacists?

As bad as the GOP has gotten in the last thirty years, I hate calling this Republican. That's an insult to people like Barry Goldwater, Warren Rudman and Christopher Shays.

This guy is just off the deep end.

I don't believe in censorship, but this appears to be advocating violence and civil disorder. There are people out there who can advocate for putting Mrs. Shiavo's tube back with out suggesting that anyone be killed in the process. If Mr. Turner can't, be should be taken off the air.

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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:07 PM
Original message
Amazing, isn't it?
Edited on Sat Mar-26-05 01:08 PM by TankLV
Of course, we DO have a "white" channel, beauty contest, etc., not to mention the WH, Congress and Courts except for "uncle tom"!

It's called EVERY FUCKING OTHER TIME 365/24/7!

It is futile to argue with these people. They will never understand.
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:31 PM
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38. This guy gets on the air? What a friggin whack job.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:32 PM
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39. Jeb just might have to call the police in to maintain order.
Wouldn't that be ironic.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:40 PM
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43. repost I just notified the Supervisor at the Pinellas Park Police,
They took this seriously, I spoke with a Supervisor there.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 05:13 PM
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73. He's updated it with something more outrageous
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 05:24 PM
Response to Reply #73
74. The supervisor I spoke with pulled the web site up as we spoke on the
phone. I just hope the Pinellas Police are following up with this. He is being careful with his wording. Making the threat without being as direct. Wonder if he got a call?
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 05:38 PM
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76. It looks pretty direct to me...
This is clearly incitement:

"They deserve to be shot in the head and killed!"

And this is a clear intent to at least consider murder:

"I'm keeping all these cop photos in case I decide to do something to them later on."

If that were found in a kid's locker at school, you can bet he'd be spending some time in a police station.

I'm so glad that you called.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:49 PM
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48. Who the heck is Hal Turner
and please tell me that no commercial radio carries his show. That sight was frightening. It was like reading highlights of the craziest and MOST extreme insane posts on Freep. Yikes!
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:55 PM
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51. look at the top left corner of the site, he has a who is posted
Read the comments at the bottom of that who is page too. Chilling.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 02:12 PM
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56. Went back to his radio site - and couldn't see/find
who is posted .... maybe that is a good thing. Hard enough just reading his posts/article titles.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 02:21 PM
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61. here ya go
After five months of being off the air and off the net (May 31 - Nov 12), this site is back! The site rebuild is in progress; its bare bones appearance will remain since the content doesn't need to be dressed up with fancy graphics!

QUICK HISTORY ABOUT HAL TURNER: Hal Turner developed a reputation as being the most controversial radio talk show host in the entire world. He's a typical, everyday, average, married, white guy. A father, a Catholic. But what made him controversial - and still does - is this: he says publicly what most people only dare to think privately.
Health and financial troubles devastated Hal and in May, 2004, he canceled his radio show and web site.

Having recovered on both fronts, Hal is coming back, slowly. While there are no plans to bring back a live, call-in radio show, the news and commentary of this site has returned. Spread the word!

THE CRITICS


Southern Poverty Law Center Names Hal Turner one of the
"40 To Watch" for being among the most influential people in
the American Body Politic Anti Defamation League (ADL) Calls Hal Turner
"A violent and dangerous" man
MSNBC covers Hal Turner at Aryan Nations World
Congress Anti Defamation League Calls Hal Turner "Extremist" over
remarks about US Congress and "ricin" poison sent by mail
ADL Decries Hal Turner and others for Supporting Mel Gibson
movie "The Passion of The Christ"
Report criticizes Hal Turner for stance against
illegal immigration

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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 02:23 PM
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62. Hey hal... that bad fortune... that might be some Karma.
Ugh!
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 02:00 PM
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53. Spoken like a true right-to-lifer.
Edited on Fri Mar-25-05 02:01 PM by rocknation
:crazy:
rocknation
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 02:06 PM
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55. more culture
Gosh.. more culture of "life" rhetoric from those who advocate killing?

Geeee.

Sue
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 02:19 PM
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60. "...that Hospice ought to be blown up by a truck bomb"
"These guys deserve to have the shit kicked out of them, and that Hospice ought to be blown up by a truck bomb." - Hal Turner


CNN: "On April 19, 1995, a massive explosion caused by a truck bomb ripped through the Murrah building, killing 168 people and injuring more than 500...."

Is this what you really want, you asshole?


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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 10:30 AM
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88. What about all the other patients? Don't they have rights too?
Maybe the other patients don't want to be blown to smithereens as they'd rather spend their last days with loved ones? Explain to me what mental illness these people have...how would it be classified according to DSM criteria?
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:13 PM
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97. These people don't care. "Collateral damage".
"Kill them all and let God sort them out" is what these nutjobs believe.

Unfortunately, these nutjobs, or republicans (repukes) as we all know them now, control everything and I doubt we'll ever get to remove them from committing future atrocities any time soon.
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 02:32 PM
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63. Fanatical wackos...
if these people really had faith, they would let this poor woman go to God in peace instead of using her as an excuse for their hatred and anger.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 02:54 PM
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67. I just nominated this idiot for the Top 10 Conservative Idiots.
Go here if you want to do the same:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/nominate.htm...

This guy is begging for prison time.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:11 PM
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70. just sent my vote in for this whacko's nom idiot of all conservatives
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 02:55 PM
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68. I have never been so thankful not to be on their side...
Disgusting displays of hysteria, IMO.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 05:11 PM
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72. OMG, check the page now: "They deserve to be shot in the head"!!!
from Hal Turner's site...

WHY AREN'T THESE COPS BEING SHOT DEAD AS SHOULD BE DONE?
10 Year Old Boy Arrested After Attempting To Bring A Glass of Water to Terri Schiavo!
These cops are enabling the death of a competely innocent, totally helpless woman, Terri Schiavo, who is being systematically starved to death. They deserve to be shot in the head and killed!
I'm keeping all these cop photos in case I decide to do something to them later on.


http://www.halturnershow.com /


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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 05:31 PM
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75. If some nutcase
decices to blow up the hospice with a truck bomb or kill one of these cops as Turner incites, and the wacko cites Turner as motivator, could he be convicted of inciting interstate mahem or murder?
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 09:30 PM
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79. Yes.
Edited on Fri Mar-25-05 09:36 PM by NYC
I don't remember the details, but it has been done before. I'll use Google to see if I can find something.

Edit: This is the best I could do. I'm on dial up.

It should be remembered that it was Tom Metzger's group, WAR, which a Portland, Oregon jury found liable ( to the tune of $12 million) for inciting a group of neo-Nazi skinheads to murder a young Ethiopian immigrant in that city a few years ago.

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:KH9CaygiNYcJ:www.c...
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 05:44 PM
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77. Someone keep us posted if the Police/FBI go after this loon.. n/m
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 06:18 PM
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78. The SOB also wants the cops busting water-bearers killed
He's got a couple of pictures of people being arrested for trying to take glasses of water to Terri. On the top one, he says the cops should be "shot in the head and killed." He also claims to be keeping the pictures of the police officers just in case he decides to "do anything" to them.

I can't decide whether this man is the Ultimate Blowhard, or if he really wants to start killing cops.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 09:40 PM
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80. White Supremacist Radio Host Urges Bombings, Assassinations
Turner's ass is grass. The ADL knows about him!

======================

http://www.adl.org/learn/news/Suprem_Urge_Bomb.asp?&MSH...



Updated: March 22, 2005
Update: Hal Turner
White supremacist Hal Turner named three federal court judges with connections to the Matt Hale case as public officials who need to be reined in. Turner also posted the judges full names and addresses on his Web site, and read their names during a March 5, 2005, appearance on the Fox News program Geraldo.

Turner, of North Bergen, New Jersey, has a history of explicitly encouraging extreme violence against Jews, other minorities and government officials. Turner shut down his shortwave radio show down in early 2004, allegedly for lack of funds, and has confined his activities since then to posting violent and racist political and societal commentary on his Web site, which he updates frequently. Some of his more recent statements include:

On February 28, 2005, Turner advocated assaulting and killing African-Americans on March 15 to commemorate his birthday: I think a full day of violence against blacks . . . would be a really nice thing . . . complete with lynchings, church burnings, drive-by shootings and bombings to put these subhuman animals back in their place.

On January 3, 2005, Turner posted the presidential inauguration parade route on his Web site, saying it seems to me there can be no protection against a Turner Diaries type of mortar attack or a Hezbollah-type rocket attack launched from outside the security zone. Rest assured, if the feds get wiped out, Ill be cheering the TV set!

In addition to his activities in the United States, Tuner recently returned from a trip to Brazil to help generate support for his efforts and those of other white supremacist organizations.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted: November 7, 2002
White supremacist radio talk show host Hal Turner, known for incendiary anti-Semitic and racist rhetoric, has caused concern in recent weeks by explicitly encouraging extreme violence against Jews, other minorities, and government officials. Among other measures, Turner has advocated bombings and assassinations.

Turner hosts the "Hal Turner Show" (apparently from his home in North Bergen, New Jersey, although he has a New York City mailing address). The show is broadcast on weekday evenings by shortwave radio station WBCQ out of Monticello, Maine, and reaches most of the country. It is also simulcast on the Internet.

Turner's language and message are often extreme, and in recent months Turner has repeatedly urged acts of violence and terrorism. On September 25, for example, Turner suggested to his audience that "it is time to start killing Jews in the United States, cut their throat as they walk down the street, drive by and blast them with a shotgunthrow Molotov cocktails through their jewelry store windows and then Israel can ask us to stop."


Hal Turner
Turner encouraged his audience to "BOMB their synagogues, BOMB their businesses, let's BOMB their homes, that's what I SAY because maybe when these filthy Jew, mother f--- start dying en masse here in the United States, they will pay attention over in Israel."

Jews are not the only target of Turner's exhortations toward violence.

On October 22, Turner told listeners that "if the INS can't do its job, and round up these illegal aliens, then in my opinion, we people who are here legally, should maybe think about drive-by shootings with machine guns in front of every Mexican Consulate and kill every single one of these invaders."

On October 28, when a caller alleged that a federal judge stopped expenditure for a new courthouse because the town was not diverse enough, Turner opined, "I hope somebody assassinates that Federal Judge."

On Halloween, after hearing that "international observers" were coming to monitor the upcoming election in Florida, Turner called on the people of Florida to go to the polls armed and demand that the observers leave - or kill them on the spot if they refuse.

Although Turner claims no formal affiliation with any white supremacist group, his "Hal Turner Radio Network" broadcasts Aryan Nations programs and provides air time to other white supremacist guests such as Matt Hale, leader of the World Church of the Creator. Turner also sponsors other race-baiting programs, among them Michigan white supremacist James Wickstrom's "Yahweh's Truth."
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 09:16 AM
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81. Any overnight Turner news?
Has this screwball been arrested yet?
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 09:34 AM
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82. Apparently this stuff has been removed. The site has a message...
Edited on Sat Mar-26-05 09:36 AM by Skinner
"Web Site Updates Temporarily offline.
I am traveling to do something important."

http://www.halturnershow.com

I wonder what the "something important" is. :shrug:
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 09:51 AM
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83. That was discussed last night on another thread, Skinner
Please click here.

Just before that message went up, there was this one (quoted by Rose Siding):

OPERATION "EXTRICATE" IS A "GO"

I hope he's not traveling to Pinellas Park in a Ryder truck.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 10:59 AM
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91. Other thread
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 09:53 AM
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84. Well, he can't travel to FL by plane if he's carrying a firearm...
...so he'd have to drive there. That's a 19 hr car trip from Philly to Tampa. By my estimate, he should be arriving there @ 6ish pm ET.

BTW, did you see the cached copy of his page?
By the way he's been ranting about the Schiavo case, it appears he's going to take the matter into his own hands... :scared:
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Gatchaman Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 10:37 AM
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89. Needs added to front page
The link to the cached page needs added to the article on the main page. Casual visitors may not find it in the thread.
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 08:39 PM
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109. It's still there, I just c and p'd this: scroll to bottom
SUGGESTION FOR CATHOLIC CHURCH OFFICIALS REGARDING SCHIAVO CASE
Michael Schiavo enjoys legal guardianship of Terri Schiavo because they are "married." But "Marriage," when performed in a church, is a religious sacrament - not a civil ceremony.

SInce Michael Schiavo has been living with another woman instead of his wife Terri for the past ten years he is, according to church doctrine, committing "Adultery."

SInce the church bestowed the sacrament of Marriage, the church can revoke it. I suggest the Catholic Church declare the marriage of Michael and Terri Schiavo to be ANNULLED.

This would be grounds for Terri's parents to challenge his legal guardianship since he would no longer be her "husband." The parents could then sue for Guardianship as Terri's nearest relatives and the court would be hard pressed to say otherwise.

Since the Vatican itself has referred to this situation as "direct euthanasia; a pitiless way to kill" I think the hierarchy of the Church would act on this suggestion quite quickly.

-- Hal Turner

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PLEASE STOP CALLING THE FBI TO "REPORT" THIS WEB SITE.
The poor bastards have received hundreds of phone calls to dozens of their offices nationwide today alone, and they already know what I've posted here. In fact, by their own admission, they monitor this web site every single day. It's been that way for the last four years.

Agents from the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force visit me upwards of twice a month and have done so for the last two years. Agents from the U.S. Secret Service, US Marshall Service and Troopers from the New Jersey State Police Counter Terrorism Unit have also visited me numerous times over the content of this web site.

In each instance, no action by law enforcement was needed (or possible) because despite what you may THINK about what appears here, nothing on this site is a "threat." This site contains my OPINIONS. As harsh as they may be, we are still free to express our OPINIONS, even when other people don't like them.

As such, please leave the poor FBI alone. -- Hal Turner
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MAYBE I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS TERRI SCHIAVO THING THE WRONG WAY. . . . .

I've been proceeding from the assumption that she was merely a totally innocent, completely helpless woman being savagely deprived of life through slow starvation and dehydrationher by an adulterous husband with the blessing of renegade courts acting in direct defiance of U.S Congress Subpoenas, . But on second thought. . . . . .

She was born a jew, but converted to Catholicism. Being born a jew makes one a racial jew no matter what religion they convert to. And seeing as racial jews are the lowest form of scum in the history of this planet, (They've been thrown out of more countries than any other race in history) maybe starving Terri to death isn't too bad a thing at all.

In fact, since there are so many other jews in Florida, doubtless many who are seriously ill from all their inbreeding and race mixing, maybe this Schiavo thing is a terrific way to set case law as an excuse to get rid of a whole slew of other jews!

I still think it would have been far more humane to simply gas her to death. But I guess after all the hoopla about "gas chambers" in Germany back in WW2, the powers that be are a bit squeamish about using that method again.

Oh well.

-- Hal Turner



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Like King Herod's men, ordered to slaughter every newborn male child, and the NAZI guards of WW2 who were "just following orders" our brave police are, today, "doing their duty"


10 Year Old Boy (EVIL CHRISTIAN ZEALOT?) Arrested After Attempting To Bring A Glass of Water to (Filthy Jew) Terri Schiavo!


These cops are aiding, abetting and enabling the death of a completely innocent, totally helpless woman, Terri Schiavo, who is being systematically starved to death.
Aren't you just SO proud of them?




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


I advocate the use of force to rescue Terri Schiavo from being starved to death.
I further advocate the killing of anyone who interferes with such rescue. -- Hal Turner
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 10:13 AM
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85. Hmm. Lawsuit, anybody?
All this time, they were worried about Janet Jackson's boobie, and here this guy is advocating murder.

I never thought the 10 commandments had anything against Janet Jackson's boobie.
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Slowhand16 Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 10:15 AM
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86. She should die.
Her parents are sick. There is something wrong with them, why would you want to keep your daughter alive like that. I understand a parents' love but come the fuck on. I am with her husband 100 percent.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 10:25 AM
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87. Religio-terrorists.............
This is what the Republicans have created. Nice job Jeb, George, Tom, Rick, Bill et al..........you've created a Frankenstein's monster and you can't control it.
Fools. Playing with people's emotions, whipping them into a rapture-like frenzy and then withdrawing into the shadows. THEY should have to face these people, now!
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riffraff_va Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 10:47 AM
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90. sick and tired
I am sick and tired of the term "starved to death". She is not starving because in order to starve, you must hunger. And I thought that by her cerebral cortex now being liquefied, that she didn't feel pain, or wasn't aware of pain. And another thing, a feeding tube doesn't feed you food. It's not like they grind up a steak and shove it though a tube. What the feeding tube does is fill your body up with the proper "nutrients" needed to survive. The word "starved" is so emotionally loaded and is disingenuous to use in this case.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 11:02 AM
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92. This thread is about HAL TURNER
Ref the above 3 new posts, there are a bazzion and one TS threads. Can we keep this one focused on Hal Turner?

thank you.
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riffraff_va Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 11:22 AM
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93. why
Why is all of the crazy, racist, homophobic, sexist, bigot white men in the Republican Party. Its too many of them exposing themselves to say its a coincidence.
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jmcon007 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:07 PM
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94. poor guy....
Hal's having a bad day it seems. He's got his little weinee twisted into a pretzel over something he can do nothing about, except throw tantrums and appear to be tough.

How would you like to be in a car with this guy on a cross-country trip?
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:11 PM
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95. There's that Culture of Life
a death threat to those that oppose their views.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:31 PM
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99. "Culture of life" cultist photo

Sat Mar 26, 1:33 PM ET
A protester stands in front of the Woodside Hospice where the brain-damaged Florida woman Terri Schiavo is being cared for, in Pinellas Park, Florida, March 26, 2005. Schiavo's parents begged Florida Gov. Jeb Bush to intervene as their brain-damaged daughter edged closer to death and federal courts again rebuffed their efforts to have tube feeding resumed. REUTERS/Carlos Barria
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:12 PM
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96. 2PM website update - Turner's NOTICE OF REBELLION AND INSURRECTION to *
Edited on Sat Mar-26-05 01:17 PM by paineinthearse
:wtf:

Unless I have missed a committee subpoena, Turner is delusional. I take that back, in any event, Turner is delusional and needs to be located and placed under arrest and/or protective custody. IMMEDIATELY.

Note: there is not one mention of this in the CON (corporate owned news). I have posted excepts from Rose's two threads to Boston Indymedia.

===================================================

NOTICE OF REBELLION AND INSURRECTION
AND DEMAND TO ENFORCE THE LAW

TO: George Walker Bush, President of the United States:

The City of Pinellas Park, Florida in the persons of its Police Department;
the County of Pinellas, Florida in the persons of its Sheriff's Department, and;
the Judiciary of Florida in the person of Circuit Court Judge George Greer,
are all in criminal violation of Title 18, United States Code, Part One, Chapter 115, Sub-Section 2328

This violation is ongoing as follows:

The United States House of Representatives and the United States Senate, duly constituted under The Constitution of the United States and acting in accordance with federal law, have issued Subpoenas COMMANDING the appearance of Theresa Marie Schiavo at congressional hearings.

Interference with or causing harm to a Witness who is summoned to appear before Congress is unlawful.

The Pinellas Park Police Department, The Pinellas County Sheriff's Department and Florida Circuit Court Judge George Greer have been and continue to deliberately interfere with the ability of Theresa Marie Schiavo and others to answer the Subpoenas lawfully issued by Congress. This deliberate interference by sovereign entities of a state government is actual, direct rebellion and insurrection against the authority of the United States in violation of 18 USC 2328 as cited above.

So brazen are those in rebellion, that they refused to allow the elected and sovereign Governor of the State of Florida to intervene in the matter, by threatening a physical "showdown" between local police and Florida State Law Enforcement Agents!

Mr. President, you are authorized under Title 10 United States Code, Sub-Title "E", Part Two, Chapter 1211, Sub-Section 12406 (2) to call into service the National Guard in sufficient numbers to quell this rebellion or insurrection, enforce the Subpoenas lawfully issued by the United States Congress, and take into custody, the aforementioned Police, Sheriffs and Judge by any force necessary.

As a citizen of the United States, I respectfully DEMAND the President of the United States enforce the law immediately by deploying troops with orders to use whatever force is necessary to quell or destroy the rebellious entities named above, capture or kill those in rebellion and save the life of Theresa Marie Schiavo, a Witness under subpoena by the United States Congress, who is presently being starved to death by the aforementioned rebellious criminals.

Sworn this 26 th Day of March, 2005

Harold C. Turner
1906 Paterson Plank Road
North Bergen, New Jersey 07047

DELIVERED TO AND SERVED UPON THE WHITE HOUSE, 26 March, 2005, 1:50 PM EST
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 04:03 PM
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100. That is one sick puppy..................
freedom of speech is one thing, but to advocate the murder of Police Officers is beyond the pale of sanity. Why haven't they locked this obviously disturbed person up by now? :shrug:
He needs a lot of help, although it will in all likelihood be at public expense, which he'd abhor, there are some things that just can't be ignored. His mental health is one of them.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 01:22 PM
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98. Google cache of Turner's website @ 3/25/05
This is G o o g l e's cache of http://www.halturnershow.com / as retrieved on Mar 25, 2005 04:15:35 GMT.
G o o g l e's cache is the snapshot that we took of the page as we crawled the web.
The page may have changed since that time. Click here for the current page without highlighting.
This cached page may reference images which are no longer available. Click here for the cached text only.
To link to or bookmark this page, use the following url: http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=mozclient&ie=utf-...


http://64.233.161.104/search?sourceid=mozclient&ie=utf-...
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Davion Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 04:42 PM
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101. It gets even worse!
Now the guy has changed his mind and thinks she should die because she is Jewish:

"She was born a jew, but converted to Catholicism. But being born a jew makes one a racial jew no matter what religion they convert to. And seeing as racial jews are the lowest form of scum in the history of this planet, (They've been thrown out of more countries than any other race in history) maybe starving Terri to death isn't too bad a thing at all.

In fact, since there are so many other jews in Florida, doubtless many who are seriously ill from all their inbreeding and race mixing, maybe this Schiavo thing is a terrific way to set case law as an excuse to get rid of a whole slew of other jews!

I still think it would have been far more humane to simply gas her to death. But I guess after all the hoopla about "gas chambers" in Germany back in WW2, the powers that be are a bit squeamish about using that method again.

Oh well.

-- Hal Turner"
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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 04:49 PM
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102. OMG that is terrible n/t
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Davion Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 04:56 PM
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103. It looks like the guy is just your run of the mill RW nutjob
His "radio show" is on SHORT-WAVE radio, and under his "about" page he proudly links to an MSNBC article that mentions when he spoke at an Aryan Nation convention.

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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 08:59 PM
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111. Gun-totin', bible-packin' drugged nutcase busted in St. Louis
Edited on Sat Mar-26-05 09:02 PM by paineinthearse
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... apparently heading to "help" native american children.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 07:38 PM
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106. Does this make Turner a pro-life Nazi?
You figure this guy out. I give up.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 08:28 AM
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119. I was just getting ready to post this
Man - this man needs some serious help - or jail time!
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Craig3410 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 05:46 PM
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104. I hate Repubs as much as everyone else here, but...
even I'm feeling guilty about grouping this fucking insane asshole in with them.


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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 07:50 PM
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107. Awww, he wants us all to stop calling the FBI on his Nazi ass.
PLEASE STOP CALLING THE FBI TO "REPORT" THIS WEB SITE.
The poor bastards have received hundreds of phone calls to dozens of their offices nationwide today alone, and they already know what I've posted here. In fact, by their own admission, they monitor this web site every single day. It's been that way for the last four years.

Agents from the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force visit me upwards of twice a month and have done so for the last two years. Agents from the U.S. Secret Service, US Marshall Service and Troopers from the New Jersey State Police Counter Terrorism Unit have also visited me numerous times over the content of this web site.

In each instance, no action by law enforcement was needed (or possible) because despite what you may THINK about what appears here, nothing on this site is a "threat." This site contains my OPINIONS. As harsh as they may be, we are still free to express our OPINIONS, even when other people don't like them.

As such, please leave the poor FBI alone. -- Hal Turner



I hope you rot with all of your mental faculties intact you son of a bitch.
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bluestateboomer Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 08:36 PM
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108. I hate to say it but,
I don't think we will be able to fix things in this country till they get really, really bad. The more of these wingnuts that get excited, maybe the more that well meaning but misguided people will start to see the light. And this nut job is one of the worst I've seen. :puke:
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 08:43 PM
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110. I think you're right, Blue state,
and I think that we are pretty much on the margin of incivility. I think it's what they want, a house divided cannot stand. The shiavo house, the schindler house, the house on the hill. .

oh yeah, welcome to DU! We're on the threshhold of hell, what are ya drinkin? :toast:
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 09:39 PM
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112. Are TS and the Pinellas County safe if Turner stays at his PC?
http://www.halturnershow.com /

Check out the nutcase's latest:

SUGGESTION FOR CATHOLIC CHURCH OFFICIALS REGARDING SCHIAVO CASE
Michael Schiavo enjoys legal guardianship of Terri Schiavo because they are "married." But "Marriage," when performed in a church, is a religious sacrament - not a civil ceremony.

SInce Michael Schiavo has been living with another woman instead of his wife Terri for the past ten years he is, according to church doctrine, committing "Adultery."

SInce the church bestowed the sacrament of Marriage, the church can revoke it. I suggest the Catholic Church declare the marriage of Michael and Terri Schiavo to be ANNULLED.

This would be grounds for Terri's parents to challenge his legal guardianship since he would no longer be her "husband." The parents could then sue for Guardianship as Terri's nearest relatives and the court would be hard pressed to say otherwise.

Since the Vatican itself has referred to this situation as "direct euthanasia; a pitiless way to kill" I think the hierarchy of the Church would act on this suggestion quite quickly.

-- Hal Turner



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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 09:39 PM
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113. ...and this one
Edited on Sat Mar-26-05 09:40 PM by paineinthearse
http://www.halturnershow.com /

PLEASE STOP CALLING THE FBI TO "REPORT" THIS WEB SITE.

The poor bastards have received hundreds of phone calls to dozens of their offices nationwide today alone, and they already know what I've posted here. In fact, by their own admission, they monitor this web site every single day. It's been that way for the last four years.

Agents from the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force visit me upwards of twice a month and have done so for the last two years. Agents from the U.S. Secret Service, US Marshall Service and Troopers from the New Jersey State Police Counter Terrorism Unit have also visited me numerous times over the content of this web site.

In each instance, no action by law enforcement was needed (or possible) because despite what you may THINK about what appears here, nothing on this site is a "threat." This site contains my OPINIONS. As harsh as they may be, we are still free to express our OPINIONS, even when other people don't like them.

As such, please leave the poor FBI alone. -- Hal Turner
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 09:41 PM
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114. ...and this one
http://www.halturnershow.com /

MAYBE I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS TERRI SCHIAVO THING THE WRONG WAY. . . . .

I've been proceeding from the assumption that she was merely a totally innocent, completely helpless woman being savagely deprived of life through slow starvation and dehydrationher by an adulterous husband with the blessing of renegade courts acting in direct defiance of U.S Congress Subpoenas, . But on second thought. . . . . .

She was born a jew, but converted to Catholicism. Being born a jew makes one a racial jew no matter what religion they convert to. And seeing as racial jews are the lowest form of scum in the history of this planet, (They've been thrown out of more countries than any other race in history) maybe starving Terri to death isn't too bad a thing at all.

In fact, since there are so many other jews in Florida, doubtless many who are seriously ill from all their inbreeding and race mixing, maybe this Schiavo thing is a terrific way to set case law as an excuse to get rid of a whole slew of other jews!

I still think it would have been far more humane to simply gas her to death. But I guess after all the hoopla about "gas chambers" in Germany back in WW2, the powers that be are a bit squeamish about using that method again.

Oh well.

-- Hal Turner

This guy really needs to get a life.
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 10:10 PM
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115. Even Bush is saying "Damn, that's one ignorant SOB."
He does know that marriage is recognized by the state doesn't he? And that there are legalities to it? It's not just some church party all your friends go to.......you f***ing moron.
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Shadow-moses Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 08:04 AM
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117. man, your not kidding!
thats exactly what i thought when i read his diatribe. apparently Hal thinks we live under the legal rule of the Vatican. what an airhead.
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Shadow-moses Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 09:02 AM
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120. Open the InSaNe BaY doors Hal
Ugg, well ive filterd enough hate spew from Mr. Hal Turner in the past hour to last me a lifetime:

Your life isn't worth living anymore.
KILL YOURSELF!
You know I'm right. You've felt this way for a long time. I'm here to tell you, it's all right. Go ahead. Do it. It won't hurt. Be brave. All your troubles will be over. Everyone else? Don't worry, they'll get by.
You can't do it, you say? You can't kill yourself? You want to live? What are you talking about? It's too late for that. Do you know how much suffering you are putting the rest of your family through? You're a drain on the family. The resources we've had to divert for you are incredible. And still, you want to live? Fuck you. You've had your chance and you blew it. You deserve to be dead.
You won't do it? You coward. I guess that means I have to do it for you? If you can't or won't kill yourself, then I guess I'll have to do it for you. Only a crazy person would want to live as you are, therefore, you're nuts, and I have to be appointed guardian to run your life for you.
Now that I'm your guardian I can speak for you and I say you "wouldn't want to be kept alive in such a pathetic life."
Wait, those aren't your words? Of course they are. I'm your guardian so I speak for you. Die. Now.

(Find the above distasteful? In Florida, deciding for someone else their life isn't worth living then killing them, is not murder, it's called "Terri Schiavo.")
--Hal Turner


Gee, thanks hal!

Yuck. see what I mean? this is an example of the nauseating rederic that fills his website. reading it makes me laugh because its so fucking crazy, but dont kid yourself, im sure this is not written as parody because this is the ONLY way he writes. i guess thinking of it as parody is my way of trying to cope with this hate filled craziness. reading stuff like this always makes me think "people cant REALLY be serious about this crazy shit, can they?" oh yeah they can; they are dead serious. im surprised i didnt see a godhatesfags.com link (or maybe i missed it)
I greatly edited the above passage down because there is such a copious amount of it. if you want to read the entire thing, then go to http://www.halturnershow.com and may god have mercy on your soul. ;-)

well, now im going to log and enjoy a nice easter sunday. some fresh spring air will scatter the sench filled cloud that is hal turner. later~
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smokeyjoe Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 12:59 PM
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121. Eric Robert Rudolph's Emerging
They are inciting these half-wits to do something truly horrid. The media is doing their share by playing those lying soundbites over and over and over -- don't they know these neo-cons learn by rote and of course their weekly dose of kool-aid.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:03 PM
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124. Turner's head is about to explode....I'm #26,229!!!!!!!!!!
Latest post at

26,229

OUT OF ALL THE MILLIONS OF WEB SITES IN THE WORLD, THIS SITE RANKS AS #26,229

More people are getting their news from this web site, than from many of the major newspapers in America!

They do so because I offer news with brutal honesty and biting commentary that can't be found anywhere else.

Folks around the world are yearning for blunt truth and they find it here.Thanks to all of YOU for making this site a growing success! -- Hal Turner

Click Here to read the CERTIFIED Traffic Ranking of this site by the ALEXA Service - http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?&comp... /

==========

Will someone please pull Turner's plug?

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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 07:25 PM
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125. Wow...I knew he was insane.....
but not f***ing insane. Rubber room please.
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Shadow-moses Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-05 10:09 PM
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127. well, there might be a bright side to this....
I'm assuming that the 26,229 ranking is based on hits, so who do you think is hitting turner's site the most? lol, if only THOSE numbers could be broken down! People disgusted by the content (ie: all of us) vs people who believe in it and get their 'news' from it.

I chuckle just thinking about how that graph chart would look. ;-)
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 09:42 AM
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129. I only go there because there is no apparent advertising
If he were receiving a benefit from this crap, I'd boycott it.

btw, welcome to DU :hi:
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 08:46 AM
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128. Here's the Kicker
When Attorney General Janet Reno ordered armed agents to enter the house of the family of Elian Gonzales these same Republicans were streaming about abuse of power. I think it was fair or some other liberal organization that pointed out that Pat Buchanan called for the president to use armed guards to get Shavio out of the hospice where she is staying. It was then pointed out that in 1999 Buchanan criticized the use of armed guards by the Clinton Administration as a police state tactic.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 07:53 PM
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130. LIBERALS AND OTHER MORONS SCREAMING............
LIBERALS AND OTHER MORONS SCREAMING FOR ME TO BE ARRESTED OVER REMARKS ON TERRI SCHIAVO CASE

They claim content on this web site is "threatening terrorist action, threatening to murder police, threatening to bomb a building" and other such nonsense.

Apparently, these people were educated in public schools post 1980 and as such, have no clue about what words really mean. They need to brush up on their reading comprehension.

To help ease their emotional temper tantrums over my remarks, I will herein explain the difference between an opinion, a threat and incitement:

Saying something "should" happen or "ought to" happen is an opinion. You may not like what I think "should" or "ought to" happen, but saying such things amounts only to an OPINION.

Saying something "WILL" happen or "IS GOING TO" happen can be a threat, but only if what "Will" happen is illegal.

"Incitement" is when an utterance is made IN A CONTEXT WHICH MAKES IMMINENT LAWLESSNESS LIKELY.

If I utter something on my web site, it is uttered in a context which does not lend itself to immediate lawless action. If I made some of my remarks in front of the Terri Schiavo Hospice in Florida, in the presence of angry mob, then it would be LIKELY that direct lawlessness would happen and THAT could be unlawful "incitement."

So all you folks who have been screaming for me to be jailed, haven't got a leg to stand on. I know where the "line" is with respect to illegal language and I do not cross it.

And for those government types who think they will file a charge anyway, I've been down that road before and when I was done suing the folks who falsely arrested me over my words, it cost them big $$$$$ (5 figures!). So don't go down that road because I know exactly what I can and cannot say and how to crush, in federal court, any legal action sent my way over my words.

http://www.halturnershow.com/
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-05 07:54 PM
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131. You can't make that stuff up!
Is this guy a few french fries short of a Happy Meal or what?
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 10:57 PM
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132. 1/30 midnight - Turner's front page is 100% TS-free
(that's not to say it's void of other hateful rants)

I'm so disappointed.

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