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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 02:43 PM
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Know your BFEE: George W Bush did "community service" at Project P.U.L.L.
Now why would Bush Family Evil Empire prince George W Bush have to do "community service"? People who are convicted of minor criminal offenses get "community service" sentences. According to Jim Hatfield, the sentence resulted from a cocaine violation. Interesting: In Texas, most people get prison time for drug violations.

Here's a recent article on the subject. As with most things Bush, it's full of contradictions. Bush says he did the service as a leader working out of the goodness of his heart:

Former workers dispute Bush's pull in Project P.U.L.L.

By Meg Laughlin
Knight Ridder Newspapers

HOUSTON - President Bush often has cited his work in 1973 with a now-defunct inner-city program for troubled teens as the source for his belief in "compassionate conservatism."

SNIP...

"We didn't know what kind of trouble he'd been in, only that he'd done something that required him to put in the time," said Althia Turner, White's administrative assistant.

"John said he was doing a favor for George's father because an arrangement had to be made for the son to be there," said Willie Frazier, also a former player for the Houston Oilers and a P.U.L.L. summer volunteer in 1973.

Fred Maura, a close friend of White, refers to Bush as "43," for 43rd president, and his father as "41," for the 41st president.

"John didn't say what kind of trouble 43 was in - just that he had done something and he (John) made a deal to take him in as a favor to 41 to get some funding," Maura said.

CONTINUED...

http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/9990590.htm

More good stuff on the subject:

George W. Bush, Cocaine and Community Service

By Xymphora
Saturday, February 14, 2004

What is the 'Rosetta stone' in the mystery of Bush's questionable military career, the fact that will explain all the anomalies and obfuscations? It seems certain, despite what the Bush bootlickers will say, that Bush disappeared from his military service and did not have leave to do so. He simply didn't show up, and levers from on high were pulled to make sure this wasn't a problem for him and that the most incriminating evidence was laundered from his military files. Even at that early date, Bush and those around him knew he was destined for one of those parasite careers leaching off public funds, and a dishonorable discharge would have adversely affected his ability to leach. But why didn't he show up when and where he was supposed to? The requirements weren't that onerous, and it appears he liked to fly. The only answer can be that it was the drugs, particularly the massive consumption of cocaine that would have shown up on his drug test in his medical examination. But why was he so concerned about this? Cocaine consumption would have barred him from flying, but his connections would still have ensured that he did not suffer the normal consequences, and being barred from flying wouldn't be a problem if you didn't intend to fly anyway. Somehow more levers would have been pulled, and he would have received his honorable discharge, with his earning abilities not damaged in any way. The answer probably lies in the exchange between Helen Thomas and Scott McClellan as set out in Talking Points Memo, which concerns allegations that Bush had to do community service in Houston in the early 1970's, probably because of a conviction for possession of cocaine. Anybody else would have gone to jail, but his dad managed again to pull some strings with the judge to get Bush off with a bit of charity work. Note how incredibly nervous and evasive McClellan is, and how Thomas holds on like a shark (every other 'journalist' in the room could have asked the same questions as Helen Thomas did, but lacked the integrity and/or competence to do so). Also note how the White House is releasing, albeit grudgingly and in a manner that evidences guilt, all the military records. Rove is on his game here. By holding back the military records he has made the military records the issue, and has has managed to divert the media from the real issue, which is the community service. If those legal files ever get out, showing that Bush was convicted of a serious drug offence, his political career will be finished. The real reason that Bush went AWOL was that he couldn't afford to take a drug test. The real reason he couldn't afford to take a drug test was that it would have been a condition of his sentencing that he remain clean. If word of the failed drug test had filtered back to the court, he would have gone to jail. His fear of the criminal legal consequences is why he went AWOL, and that's why the community service is the key to understanding what is going on here. By concentrating on the military records, the media is walking right into Rove's trap.

CONTINUED...

http://www.serendipity.li/bush/xymphora01.htm



"Who you calling Ben Deho?"
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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 02:55 PM
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1. i think i also read somewhere that this 'community service' is also
around the time he got a new driver's license number.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 02:59 PM
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2. That happened around March of 1995, right after he started his first...
...term as TX governor.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 03:06 PM
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3. Thanks for the reminder, AgadorSparticus! Bush is a CROOK!
"WHY DID BUSH CHANGE HIS DRIVER'S LICENSE?"

8/31/99

Yesterday, MSNBC's Jeanette Walls followed up on an ONLINE JOURNAL story and was told by the Texas DMV that such a change was "highly unusual," but that it was done for unspecified "security reasons."

The ONLINE JOURNAL's Linda Starr and Bev Conover previously reported that getting a new, low-numbered license, #000000005 and issued on 3/31/95 in Bush's case, did not appear to be a "common practice" of past Texas Governors, since none of the holders of lower numbers were in that category.

Writing in the LOS ANGELES TIMES last week, USC Journalism Lecturer Norman Miller commented on such concerns by asking, "If the cocaine-rumor story is valid, where does it end? Bush has admitted he was a heavy drinker until he swore off when he turned 40. Did he drive under the influence, an action probably more endangering to others than using cocaine? God save us from some scandal-hungry reporter asking that question, even though its hypothetical foundation surpasses the cocaine question."

SOURCE ...

http://bushwatch.org/mojobush8.htm
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 03:40 PM
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4. George W. Bush: The Sky's the Limit
Edited on Sat Jan-15-05 03:42 PM by seemslikeadream
from a Bush Convention Video

GWB: Well, a wonderful man named John White asked me to come and work with him in a project in the 3rd Ward of Houston called Project P.U.L.L.; it was a mentoring program.

Ernie Ladd, Co-founder P.U.L.L.: The meaning of P.U.L.L. was Professionals United Leadership League. We had professional people who were school teachers, football players, basketball players, lawyers and doctors involved in helping go into the community and help minority kids.

GWB: I realized then that a society can change and must change one person at a time and, but it was a place that was full of activity and energy and kids were, you know kids were coming from tough circumstances. I saw that first hand one night when I took a little boy who I took a shining to, named Jimmy Dean, I took him home and situation I had never seen before. It was a living room with his mom, looked like she was on drugs and there was a bunch of hanger on-ers and smoke-filled and this was this boys home, and it was tragic and sad that he was growing up in such a tough environment, an environment that where the love that I had known as a child--it seemed like the drugs and alcohol abuse had replaced that love. And unfortunately the story ends on a sad note. My little friend was shot when he became a teenager and died.

Ernie Ladd: We are all made in the image of God regardless of the color of skin and George Bush was a part of our working in the south of the city of Houston. The city of Houston can be very well thankful for George Bush and John White.

http://www.gwu.edu/~action/repconv/bushvideo.html

In the 1970's Bush uncharacteristically volunteered to work at the P.U.L.L center in Houston an antipoverty charity program where his father was an honorary chairman. This was the first time the Dubya had ever demonstrated any 'compassionate conservatism' towards the less fortunate. Up until that time, Bush was known as the quintessential frat boy, devoted to partying and chasing skirts. There were the rumors of alcoholism, drugs, lost weekends in Mexico, dancing nude on bars and an endless parade of fast women. Working with black and Hispanic children did not exactly seem to be something that he was inclined to do by nature. After his stint at this job, Bush never again volunteered to help the needy and it appears that he quickly resumed his lifestyle as a hard core playboy.

According to the book, 'Fortunate Son; George W Bush and the Making of an American President', by J.H. Hatfield, this unusual digression in his life's history may have not really been volunteerism after all. According to Hatfield's sources, George W. Bush may have been busted for cocaine and a sympathetic judge prevailed upon to expunge the record with the stipulation that he would perform community service. This allegation is not new and has also been raised by other news sources such as the online 'Salon' but it merits reexamination after America's new war and Bush's appeal for a nation of volunteers. One of Hatfield's sources who he claim's was a former Yale classmate and a family friend who partied with the future president in the late '60's and early '70s in Houston, is quoted as saying "George W. was arrested for possession of cocaine in 1972, but due to his father's connections, the entire record was expunged by a state judge who the elder Bush helped get elected". This source then went on to say, "It was on of those 'behind closed doors in the judge's chambers' kind of thing between the old man and one of his Texas cronies who owed him a favor. In exchange for successfully completing community service at Project P.U.L.L., where Bush senior was a heavy contributor and honorary chairman, the judge purged George W.'s record."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/02/04/09_...
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 11:25 PM
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8. Ya know what they say in Texas...
Never let the Truth get in the way of a good story.



Gee. Just when I thought Bush would get off scott-free, we have CounterPunch's perspective from

October 19, 2000

Bush and Cocaine

Six months ago a CounterPuncher in whom we have absolute confidence relayed to us a conversation he had just had with someone who had attended Yale at the same time as George W. Bush. The Yale man told our CounterPuncher of his direct knowledge of young Bush selling cocaine in his college years. The Yale man adamantly refused to go on the record, on the grounds that he had no desire to authenticate a story that could only damage Bush's chances in the race for the presidency this year.

We relay the story now to our readers because we have been reliably informed that a New York Times investigative team digging into George W. Bush's relationship to cocaine has unearthed a similar story of young George W. using cocaine in bars and dealing cocaine out of a house in New Haven. But, as yet, the Times's investigators have been unable to get anyone to go on the record.

As the presidential campaign heads into its final stretch CounterPunch has been disgusted, though not particularly surprised, by the gentle handling the press has given both Bush and Al Gore on the matter of drug use. Bush's refusal to give any direct answer on his relationship to cocaine before 1974 is a matter of record. This can only mean that he has something to hide; that he fears that a categorical denial could be refuted by someone with knowledge of his activities relating to cocaine.

The attitude of the press is that "nothing new" has emerged to justify any reprise of the Bush/cocaine stories. Nothing new? Not a day passes in the nation's courts but that a non-violent drug offender is put behind bars for cocaine possession, either for use or for sale or both. Yet here is the governor of Texas, seeking to lead a nation cursed by a "war on drugs", refusing to address questions about cocaine use in his own past.

SNIP...

Today (2000!!!) the Taliban, installed with CIA backing, now rule Afghanistan as the world's leading supplier of heroin and morphine to the west. The Colombian military, flush with a billion in aid from the Clinton administration, make war on desperate peasants with nothing but coca and opium cultivation between them and starvation.

CONTINUED...

http://www.counterpunch.org/bushcoke.html

Remember to read "Pakistani ISI" for "CIA." Bush is today titular head of Drugs Inc.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 03:45 PM
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5. He showed up??
:freak:
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 11:38 PM
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9. They say he did. I wasn't there. But there are people who remember...
The good people at Hermes-Press, f'r instance:

Bush Deserves a Dishonorable Discharge

by Michelle Mairesse

EXCERPT...

"In the past, McClellan always seemed to be the consummate campaign spokesperson, always in control, never rattled by the sometimes raucous press corps and their continuous barrage of questions. But that impression was shattered when I queried McClellan about Bushs involvement at Project P.U.L.L. in 1972 as a condition of having his cocaine possession charge purged. There was a moment of electric silence, and then McClellan muttered an almost inaudible, Oh, shit, and after hesitating for a moment, finally said, No comment." (Fortunate Son: George W. Bush and the Making of an American President, J. H. Hatfield, Soft Skull Press, 2001)

Now here was Helen Thomas, in 2004, resurrecting a rumor that could have derailed Bushs 2000 presidential campaign had the press been paying attention:

"Q: Did the President ever have to take time off from Guard duty to do community service?

Scott McClellan: To do community service? I haven't looked into everything he did 30 years ago, Helen. Obviously, there is different community service he has performed in the past, including going back to that time period --

Q: Can you find out if he actually had --

Scott McClellan: Helen, I don't think we remember every single activity he was involved in 30 years ago.

Q: No, this isn't an activity. Was he forced to do community service at any time while he was on --

Scott McClellan: What's your interest in that question? I'm sorry, I just --

Q: Lots of rumors. I'm just trying to clear up something.

Scott McClellan: Rumors about what?

Q: Pardon?

Scott McClellan: Rumors about what?

Q: About the President having to do community service while he was in the National Guard, take time out for that.

Scott McClellan: I'm not aware of those rumors. But if you want to...


CONTINUED...

http://www.hermes-press.com/dishonorable.htm



Aren't you glad there's a First Amendment?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press;
or the right of the peope peaceably to assemble,
and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 04:09 PM
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6. Hatfield's phone log showing he vetted drug arrest charge with Karl Rove
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5. Hatfield's phone log, showing he vetted drug arrest charge with Karl Rove


<This is from a post I made on Usenet under the name xofpi in April 2002>



The following is a summary of a phone log JH Hatfield gave St. Martin's Press and Sander Hicks of Soft Skull press to support his investigative reporting into the nature of George W. Bush's arrest for selling cocaine in 1972. Hicks graciously provided it to me and gave me permisssion to post it on Usenet when I asked for information on whether or not the "man in Eufala" (whom Hatfield does not name) who confirmed that Bush was busted was Karl Rove.





CHRONOLOGY OF EVENTS

AND DETAILS OF PHONE RECORDS

SEPTEMBER 2, 1999



Item 27 (Sprint long distance): 12:49 p.m. Hatfield called frequent source, Robert Grijalva with the Democratic Party in El Paso, Texas, to question him about the possibility that Bush had had been arrested in 1972 for cocaine possession and performed community service at Project P.U.L.L. in Houston. (Time elapsed: 12 minutes).



Item 28 (Sprint long distance): 2:55 p.m. Hatfield called directory assistance in Houston, Texas to obtain the phone number of the Martin Luther King Community Center. Salon online magazine reported that rumors were circulating that Bush did community service at the inner-city youth center for illicit drug use in the late 60s or early 70s. (Time elapsed: 1 minute)



Item 29 (Sprint long distance): 2:56 p.m. Hatfield spoke to Madge Bush, MLK director of 31 years, questioning her about Bush and the possibility that he performed community service at Project P.U.L.L., which at one time was located in the same Houston Third Ward neighborhood. Curt and short conversation. (Time elapsed: 1 minute)



Item 30 (Sprint long distance): 3:02 p.m. Hatfield called directory assistance in Houston, Texas in an effort to obtain telephone numbers of two (2) persons (quoted in earlier passages in the book) who had spoken with reporters years ago about Bushs time spent at Project P.U.L.L. No listings for the two (2) persons. (Time elapsed: 1 minute)



Item 31 (Sprint long distance): 3:04 p.m. Hatfield called Madge Bush back with a another question as detailed in the Afterword of Fortunate Son. (Time elapsed: 1 minute)



Item 32 (Sprint long distance): 3:38 p.m. After spending approximately 30 minutes planning an investigative strategy and penning questions for confidential sources, Hatfield telephoned his editor, Barry Neville, at St. Martins Press and received his voice mail. (Time elapsed: 1 minute)



Item 33 (Sprint long distance): 3:40 p.m. Two minutes later, Hatfield called and left another message for Barry Neville. (Time elapsed: 1 minute)


Item 34 (Sprint long distance): 3:42 p.m. Two minutes later, Hatfield called and left another message for Barry Neville (Time elapsed: 1 minute)


Item 35 (Sprint long distance): 3:47 p.m. Five minutes later, an urgent Hatfield called and left yet another message on Nevilles voice mail at St. Martins Press. (Time elapsed: 1 minute)



Item 36 (Sprint long distance): 3:50 p.m. Hatfield called Madge Bush back again at MLK Community Center in Houston to ask if anyone working for her might have had one time been employed at project P.U.L.L. (when it was in existence). Negative results. (Time elapsed: 1 minute)

Item 37 (Sprint long distance): 3:56 p.m. Hatfield called directory assistance in Houston once again in an effort to obtain numbers of possible former P.U.L.L. workers. (Time elapsed: 1 minute)


Item 38 (Sprint long distance): 4:01 p.m. Follow-up question for Robert Grivjalva at the Democratic Party in El Paso, Texas, in an attempt to locate former Project P.U.L.L. workers. Hatfield received Grijalvas voice mail. (Time elapsed: 1 minute)


Item 39 (Sprint long distance) 4:02 p.m. Hatfield called Austin, Texas directory assistance to obtain the telephone number for the Bush Presidential Exploratory Committee. (Time elapsed: 1 minute)


Item 40 (Sprint long distance) 4:03 p.m. Hatfield called the Bush Presidential Exploratory Committee to obtain names of spokespersons to question. (Time elapsed: 1 minute)


Item 41 (Sprint long distance) 4:04 p.m. Hatfield called and left another message on his editors voice mail. (Time elapsed: 1 minute)


Item 42 (Sprint long distance) 4:07 p.m. Hatfield finally reaches Barry Neville and the two discuss a quick strategy for confirming the Bush arrest/community service allegation. (Time elapsed: 2 minutes)


Item 43 (Sprint long distance) 4:42 p.m. After spending approximately 30 minutes composing questions, Hatfield telephoned his former co-author on six (6) previous books, George T. Burt, in Dallas (GrandPrairie suburb), to confer and ask if he believed he was getting in way over his head. (Time elapsed: 2 minutes)


Item 001 (Alltel cellular service) 4:45 p.m. Hatfield called Clay Johnson, Bushs chief executive at the Governors office in Austin, Texas on his cell phone. (Neville asked Hatfield to keep his office line free because he was going to confer with his boss, publisher Thomas Dunne, and Celeste Phillips in California, the outside attorney who vetted the manuscript). Clay Johnson, the first confidential source called, attended Phillips Andover Aacademy and Yale with longtime friend, George W. Bush. Hatfield, who from 1979 to 1987, was a vice-president of a real estate management company based in downtown Dallas, was acquainted with Johnson, president of the Horchow catalog mail order business in the Texas city from 1983 to 1991. Because Hatfields employer was married into the Zales Jewelry family, Johnson and Hatfield attended many of the same Dallas
social functions. Their discussion regarding the 1972 Bush drug arrest/community service is detailed in the Afterword to Fortunate Son. (Time elapsed: 4 minutes)


Item 002 (Alltell cellular service) 4:56 p.m. Hatfield called Rev. Jim Mayfield, pastor of the Tarrytown United Methodist Church for the past ten (10) years in Austin, Texas. Bush had attended the church since January 1995, after he was inaugurated as governor. Rev. Mayfield had previously detailed to Hatfield Bushs in-depth conversation with family friend and spiritual adviser, Billy
Graham, which led to his religious conversion (as described in Fortunate Son, pages 70-74). Rev. Mayfield had publicly chastised Bush for failing to support the proposed Hate Crimes Bill in the Texas legislature in 1999. Mayfield, who is described in the Afterword as a longtime Bush friend and unofficial political adviser, confirmed the drug arrest, telling the author that Bush had once confessed to him regarding the incident. Ironically, Rev. Mayfield cursed a couple of times in describing the incident, as detailed in the books Afterword. Mayfield had previously stated publicly that if Bush needed spiritual guidance, he talked to him. Hatfield referred to him as a a political adviser to protect his identity, when, in reality, spiritual adviser would have been more
appropriate. (Time elapsed: 6 minutes)


Item 003 (Alltel cellular service) 5:06 p.m. Hatfield telephoned the Bush Presidential Exploratory Committee and queried spokesman Scott McClellan in regards to the allegation that Bush had been arrested in 1972 for cocaine possession. His almost inaudible Oh, shit and then no comment is detailed in the Afterword. (Time elapsed: 1 minute)


Item 004 (Alltel cellular service) 5:08 p.m. After McClellan terminated the call, Hatfield once again telephoned the presidential exploratory committee. Megan Moran answered and informed the author that either Karen Hughes or Mindy Tucker, two other Bush campaign spokespersons, would return his call, which never occurred. (Time elapsed 1 minute)


Item 005 (Alltel cellular service) 5:10 p.m. Hatfield called Bushs chief campaign strategist and longtime friend of the family, Karl Rove, on his private, unlisted telephone number (as previously supplied to Hatfield when they met on Lake Eufaula in Oklahoma a few months earlier). Rove cursed Hatfield for using a goddamn cordless phone and stated he would call the author back in thirty (30) minutes. (Time elapsed: 2 minutes)


Always punctual, Rove returned Hatfields call in approximately thirty minutes. Their conversation (Rove is referred to in the book as the Eufaula connection) is detailed on pages 308-311 of Fortunate Son It should be noted that Rove had been publicly rebuked by Bush for leaking information about his possible run for president just prior to Hatfield and Roves conversation and there was a tone of
anger and bitterness in the campaign strategists voice. Upon Celeste Phillips (St. Martins outside attorney) recommendation, Hatfield removed descriptive details from the manuscript that would have hinted to the confidential sources true identity. In addition, Hatfield (as told to Slate online magazine) added the spitting tobacco juice into the ever-present Styrofoam cup reference in an effort to mislead readers searching for tips to the true identity of the Eufaula connection.


As explained on page 305 of the re-published edition of Fortunate Son by Soft Skull Press, Inc., Hatfield detailed in a new paragraph how he obtained the cooperation of his three (3) sources and the subsequent confirmation of the 1972 Bush drug arrest:



To confirm my suspicions regarding Bushs community service, I chose three confidential sources whom had been extremely helpful with other sections of the book to follow up with in telephone inquiries. If I was going to get any one of them to talk about the governors youthful past, a poker game was certainly in order. With each of them I would have to claim that I had numerous sources who were confirming the allegations on the record, but I would be willing to give my confidential sources an opportunity to put a positive spin on the potentially damaging revelations before the book was published. Basically, I would tell them I was holding a royal flush, when in reality I would be sitting at the table with nothing at all.


Publicity Director for St. Martins Press.]

Fortunate Son: the skinny, please
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...


The center's executive director, Madgelean Bush (no relation to George W. Bush), had told Salon News and others that Bush did not do community service there, and the Bush campaign likewise denied the allegation. But the Texas governor had admitted to working at Houston's Project P.U.L.L. in 1972, and Hatfield says he began to wonder if that was actually the community service sentence. Hatfield says he confirmed those suspicions with three sources close to the Bush family he had cultivated while writing his biography, which publishes Wednesday.

Bush's campaign denied Hatfield's allegation Monday.

By contrast, "First Son: George W. Bush and the Family Dynasty," by Dallas Morning News reporter Bill Minutaglio, says George Bush Sr. referred his son to Project P.U.L.L. after an incident in which George W. drove drunk with his younger brother Marvin in the car.

But Hatfield quotes "a high-ranking advisor to Bush" who confirmed that Bush was arrested for cocaine possession in Houston in 1972, and had the record expunged by a judge who was "a fellow Republican and elected official" who helped Bush get off "with a little community service at a minority youth center instead of having to pick cotton on a Texas prison farm."

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/10/18/cocaine/
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 09:45 PM
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11. Rev. Jim Mayfield was One of Three Sources for Smirk's Cocaine Arrest
The others who gave Jim Hatfield the inside dope on Dim Son are Clay Johnson and Carl Rover. "Impeachable" sources, they are.

The Goods on Bush: What We Can Prove

EXCERPT...

A more extensive account was captured in J.H. Hatfields 1999 Bush biography Fortunate Son. Hatfield based the book on interviews with Bush minister Rev. Jim Mayfield, Bushs lifelong friend and schoolmate Clay Johnson (currently White House director of Presidential personnel) and senior White House Advisor Karl Rove.

Hatfield was particularly specific about a weekend he spent bass fishing with Rove at Lake Eufaula in Oklahoma on June 26 and 27, 1999:

"We met at an abandoned movie theater parking lot. I was with him Saturday afternoon from 2:00 or 3:00 or so to dark, all day Sunday and then we went out Monday a.m. for a couple of hours." Later, Hatfield called Rove to follow up on his story.

Although Rove, Johnson and Mayfield later denied speaking with Hatfield, phone records show that on September 2, 1999, Hatfield did in fact speak with Mayfield for six minutes at 4:56 p.m., with Johnson for four minutes at 4:45 p.m., and with Rove for two minutes at 5:10 p.m. (15)

http://aliberaldose.blogspot.com/2004/08/here-at-libera...

Blogger "A Liberal Dose" has a few excellent links resources, although his site is a bit hard to read online.



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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 05:17 PM
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7. Wow! Bush's Yale classmate say's he was busted for cocaine use.
Edited on Sat Jan-15-05 05:26 PM by seemslikeadream


from
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According to Hatfield this is from one of Bush's former Yale classmates:

I was wondering when someone was going to get around to uncoverig the truth," he replied, surprisingly unruffled by my direct approach. "Evidently, you kind of glossed over in the book like a lot of other reporters have done in their newpaper and magazine articles. It doesn't fit, does it?
George W. was arrested for possession of cocaine in 1972, but due to his father's connections, the entire record was expunged by a state jusdege whom the elder Bush helped get elected," he explained. "It was one of those 'behind closed doors in the judge's chambers' kind of thing betweenthe old man and one of his Texas cronies who owed him a favor. In exchange for successfully completing communtiy service at Project P.U.L.L., where Bush senior was a heavy contributor and honorary chairman, the judge purged Gorge W.'s record.


In the Afterword of his book Hatfield states:

On August 4, 1999, Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle publicly Charged the Press with giving George W. Bush a 'free ride' in regards to the persistent rumors of past cocaine use, adding that it was a "a legitimate question" to expect any presidential candidate to answer to determine if he or she is morally fit to hold the highest elected office in the U.S.

In response to Senator Dashcle's challenge, later the same day the New York Daily News asked Bush and his other eleven political rivals where they had ever used cocain. All of them--except the presidential front-runner, who refused to answer the question--denied ever experimenting with the illegal drug. When the Associated Press asked the same candidates about the general use of the drugs, eight said no, and two acknoledged trying marijuana. Once again, Bush refused to answer the question, contributing to the media's feeding frenzy regarding allegations of his prior drug use by evasively responding: "I've made mistakes in the past and I've learned from my mistakes," branding such rumors "ridiculous and absurd," but declining to lable them false." (pp.299-300)


.......Fresh from a first-place showing in Iowa GOP straw poll on August 14 the Texas governor was forced to amend his stock message when Sam Attlesey of the Dallas Morning News asked whether, as president, Bush would insist that his appointees answer drug-use questions contained in the standard FBI background check. (As president, Bush would nominate candidates for the Supreme Court, other federal judges, cabinet secretaries, foreign ambasadors, and federal prosecutors. All would be required to answer questions "fully and truthfull" regarding illegal drug use on the questionnaire for national security decisionrs, a part of the FBI background check).
After receiving advance word that the new slant on the drug question was going to be asked, Bush conferred with campaign finance chairman Don Evans, finance director Jack Oliver, media adviser Mark McKinnon, chief strategist Karl Rove, and communications director Karen Hughes.
"Imagine the ad our opponents could make if we didn't answer the question" said one Bush campaign adviser. "As president, George W. Bush would maintain a double standard when it comes to illegal drug use by White House employees--one for him and one for everybody else."

Bush's inner circle of campaign officials agreed that the leading presidential candidate should confirm to the Dallas Morning News that he would meet all the standards himself, a response that would "hopefully put a stake in the heart of the coke-use stories."
"As I understand it, the current form asks the question, 'Did somebody use drugs within the last seven years?' and I will be glad to answer the question, and the answer is 'No'," Bush responded during a news conference he called to introduce his new state education commissioner.
However, the Texas governor once again refused to say whether he had ever used cocaine in particular and angrily claimed that his political enemies were peddling unsubstantiated rumors of illegal drug use. "I know they're being planted," Bush said, obviously irritated. "They're ridiculous absurd, and the American people are of sick of this kind of politics." Earlier, he had chided reporters for agian raising the drug issue . Somebody floats a rumor and it causes you to ask a question, and that's the game in American politics, and I refuse to play it," he stated. "That is a game. And you just fell for the trap."

The following day at another media event in Roanoke, Virginia, Bush decided to move the boundary markers yet again, volunteering that at the time his father was inaugurated in 1989 he could have passed even the fifteen-year background check in effect then, dating his drug-free years all the way back to 1974, when he was twenty-eight and a graduate student at Harvard.
But the presidential candidate suddenly drew the line and defined a statute of limitations for only the past twenty-five years after NBC's David Blom noted that current White House appointees were required to list any drug use since their eighteenth birthday.

"I believe it is important to put a stake in the ground and say enough is enough when it comes to trying to dig up people's backgrounds, " Bush said, reverting to his previous position of firmly standing against "trash-mouth politics", and refusing to discuss details about his past. If voter, didn't like that answer he announced, "they can find somebody else to vote for . I have told the American people all I am going to tell them."
Later in the day, Bush continued his stonewall strategy, saying only that parents should counsel their children about the perils of alcohol and drugs. "I think a baby boomer parent ought to say. 'I have learned from the mistakes I may or may not have made, and I'd like to share some wisdom with you, and that is: Don't use drugs. Don't abuse alcohol.' That's what leadership is all about." the presidetial front-runner told reporters while touring oan Ohio Homeless shelter that offered treatment for drug addicts.


Bush has essentially admitted to something. But he refused to say what, creating a political paradox." wrote the editors of USA Today. "If his offense is trivial, why hide it? Voters have shown little inclination to punish candidates for youthful drug use, at least in the cse of marijuana. And if it's substantial, why should those voters be denied the facts?"

"He's been drawing all kinds of distinctions, rather than just giving an anaswer which will put these queries to rest for good," said Mark Rozell, a political scientist at Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C. "It's sort of piecemeal, hopin-it-will-go-away approach. But this line of inquiry will not goa aaway until he does what only he can do to end it: Tell the flat-out truth about what happened."

Bush flip flops on the drug use question only heightened the mystery and invited deeper scrutiny by the media. On August 25, the online magainze Salon reported on allegations that "back int he '60s or '70s," Bush "was ordered by a Texas judge to perform community service in exchange for expunging his record showing illicit drug use and that this service was performed at the Martin Luther King, Jr. Community Servie Center in Houston.


Then Hatfield cites replies from one of his sources as he pursued the line about Bush's community service:

This is from one of Bush's former Yale classmates:

I was wondering when someone was going to get srounud to uncoverig the truth," he replied, surprisingly unruffled by my direct approach. "Evidently, you kind of glossed over in the book like a lot of other rporters have done in their newpaper and magazine articles. It doesn't fit, does it?"

"George W. was arrested for possession of cocaine in 1972, but due to his father's connections, the entire record was expunged by a state jusdege whom the elder Bush helped get elected," he explained. "It was one of those 'behind closed doors in the judge's chambers' kind of thing betweenthe old man and one of his Texas cronies who owed him a favor. In exchange for successfully completing communtiy service at Project P.U.L.L., where Bush senior was a heavy contributor and honorary chairman, the judge purged Gorge W.'s record. "
Can you tell me more about the incident involving his arrest of give me a name of the police officer or, better yet, the judge?" Hatfield asked.

"I've told you enough already," he replied, sounding unchracteristically apprehensive. "There's oly a handful of us that know the truth. I'm not even sure his wife knows about it." Then he paused and added, "Just keep digging, But keep looking over your shoulder.

From another source "a longtime Bush friend":

Take this anyway it sounds, but do you think George would take time out from speeding around town in his TR-6 convertible sports car, bedding down just about every single woman--and a few marrie ones--and patying like there's no tommorrow to go work full-time as a mentor to a bunch of streetwise balck kids? Get real, man, this ia a white bread boy fromt eh tother side of town wer're talking about. (page 300--05)



Although Texas requires renewal of a driver's license every four years on one's birthday, Bush obtained a new number (a nine digit 000000005) on March 31, 1995 as a renewal instead of on his birthday, July 6, which the texas Department of Motor Vehicles called "highly unusual". Online Journal correspondents Bev Conover and Linda L. Starr also noted in their investigation that in Texas, "every infraction of the law--from a parking ticket to homicide--appears on you Texas Driver's License Detail. It was publicly reported that George W. shot and killed a protected species while bird hunting in 1994 and paid a fin of $130 on September 2,1994. That is the sort of thing that gets listed on a Texas Driver's License Detail, bu it doesn't show up on George W's because when he received a new license in March 1995, the record of paying the fine--along with anything else that was cited--was deleted with his old license number". Ironically, the Texas Department of Public Safety (which issues state driver's licenses is headed by James Byrne Francis, Jr. one the governor's closest friends and fundraisers. (Fortunate Son, Hatfield. FN page 303)

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 04:38 PM
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12. Bush 'did coke' at Camp David
The things one learns if one reads...

Book: Bush 'did coke at Camp David' years ago

September 7, 2004

Author Kitty Kelley, in her biography The Family: The Real Story of the Bush Dynasty, is citing sources as saying President Bush used cocaine at Camp David during his father's presidency, according to London's Daily Mirror.

SNIP (Laura the Pot Dealer)...

Kelley quotes Bush's former sister-in-law Sharon Bush, who claims: ''Bush did coke at Camp David when his father was president, and not just once either.''

Others told Kelley that as a 26-year-old member of the National Guard, Bush ''liked to sneak out back for a joint or into the bathroom for a line of cocaine.''

SNIP...

Former student Torbery George says in the book: ''Poor Georgie. He couldn't relate to women unless he was loaded.''

Another says: ''It's amazing someone you held in such low esteem later became president.''

CONTINUED...

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10. There's the story of Poppy intervening with a Texas judge and fixing
things about the coke.
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