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PLAME INDICTMENTS THREAD 8 -High Crimes & Misdemeanors
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Dear _________;

I am writing to express my concerns about on-going efforts to discredit Ambassador Joseph Wilson. In his NYT Op-Ed article "What I Didn't Find In Africa," Wilson exposed a claim by President Bush in his 2003 State of the Union Address to be untrue. Since that time, the White House has been involved in an effort to destroy Wilson's reputation, which included exposing his wife as a CIA operative.

In John Dean's review of Wilson's book (NYT Book Review; 5-23-04; pg9) he documents that two days after the op-ed article ran, journalist Robert Novak was telling people that Wilson's wife Valerie Plame was a CIS "weapons of mass destruction specialist."

Novak exposed Plame's identity in a 7-14-03 column. He sourced his story to two "senior administration officials." These two senior White House officials had lobbied at least six journalists to expose Plame in what Dean calls a "you-hurt-us-we-will-hurt-you warning" to those tempted to expose administration "misinformation."

When Wilson appeared on MSNBC's "Countdown," host Keith Olbermann held up three identical e-mails from the White House. Olbermann explained their intent was to discredit Wilson with their "talking points."

Wilson has noted that Sandy Berger, President Clinton's national security advisor pointed out that since the Bush people never back down, the fact that they had admitted an error after the op-ed article indicated "they must have something more important to protect." (The Politics of Truth, by Wilson; pg4)

Joseph Klein's 7-5-04 article in Time (Plenty More to Swear About; pg 21) reveals that Plame was "active in a sting operation involving the trafficking of WMD components" when her identity was exposed by the White House. "Only a high-ranking official could have had access to the knowledge that Plame was on the pay-roll," an intelligence source told Klein.

There is clearly more to this story than the White House and senate republicans are willing to tell the public. What investigation by Plame needed to be derailed by the White House? I hope that national leaders and the media will focus attention on this important issue.

Sincerely,


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Dear_________;

I am writing about the outing of CIA Agent Valerie Plame. It seems that the Grand jury Investigation has wrapped up or will soon, but little has been mentioned of late. What may have been political payback to Joe Wilson for refuting the Niger yellowcake claims in the State of the Union address could have actually made this country a great deal less safe. According to Joseph Klein (Time 7-5-04--Plenty More to Swear About), Plame may have been "active in a sting operation involving the trafficking of WMD components." If this is true (or even a possibility, those responsible must be brought to justice. I submit that underground trafficking of WMD components presents a far more imminent threat to our country than Saddam Hussein did. In my mind this certainly achieves the status of "High Crimes," and I urge you to not let this issue fall by the wayside. The security of our country may have been irretrievably harmed by a few high ranking officials and they must be brought to task.

Sincerely,


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PALLAS' 'GIVE EM HELL' SUGGESTED LETTER

Dear ____________


Concerning Time magazine's Joe Klein's July 5 article, page 21 revealed that Valerie Plame was "active in a sting operation involving the trafficking of Weapons of Mass Destruction components"" when her identity was exposed by the White House. It also said" Only a high-ranking official could have had access to the knowledge" that Valerie Plame was a covert CIA agent.

1) Our study group has found that Vice President Cheney since 1995 as CEO of Halliburton was fined 1.2 milion dollars for illegal sales of similar components to Libya. Shortly before becoming Vice President he bitterly assailed US policy against selling such components to Syrria and Iran, which apparently hurt Halliburton's bottom line.

2) Our study group has also found that there is an investigation of Vice President Cheney in other countries for illegal bribery and various other offenses connected to Halliburton as well as paying amounts to secret Swiss bank accounts

3)The Atomic Energy Commission has said a North American company is one of 20 being investigated for black market sales of WMD materials.

Our study group suspects there is more to the White House revealing Valerie Plame's covert CIA status since the Republicans refuse to hold investigations on the matter.

Frankly, it would appear to us that possibly Valerie Plame was stopped in her tracks and the CIA sting operation was exposed because it was coming close to discovering another violation of the laws by our own Vice President and the Hallibuton company he has awarded billions of US taxpayer dollars to in non-bid contracts.

There is a question of where the Vice President's and President's loyalty lies: to their Corporate friends and company's bottom line or to the security and wellbeing of the America.n people?

In any case, the exposure of Valerie Plame by the White House was and is treasonous.

The responsibility of the Media and Congress is to expose these wrong doings, investigate and safeguard against this type of occurrence for the American people.

WHY are you not fulfilling your role to me, to my study group, and the rest of the American people in this country and WHEN will you start ?


Sincerely

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Arbustochupa's lettter

Dear _________;

I am writing to express my concerns about on-going efforts to discredit Ambassador Joseph Wilson. In his NYT Op-Ed article "What I Didn't Find In Africa," Wilson exposed a claim by President Bush in his 2003 State of the Union Address to be untrue. Since that time, the White House has been involved in an effort to destroy Wilson's reputation, which included exposing his wife as a CIA operative.

In John Dean's review of Wilson's book (NYT Book Review; 5-23-04; pg9) he documents that two days after the op-ed article ran, journalist Robert Novak was telling people that Wilson's wife Valerie Plame was a CIS "weapons of mass destruction specialist."

Novak exposed Plame's identity in a 7-14-03 column. He sourced his story to two "senior administration officials." These two senior White House officials had lobbied at least six journalists to expose Plame in what Dean calls a "you-hurt-us-we-will-hurt-you warning" to those tempted to expose administration "misinformation."

When Wilson appeared on MSNBC's "Countdown," host Keith Olbermann held up three identical e-mails from the White House. Olbermann explained their intent was to discredit Wilson with their "talking points."

Wilson has noted that Sandy Berger, President Clinton's national security advisor pointed out that since the Bush people never back down, the fact that they had admitted an error after the op-ed article indicated "they must have something more important to protect." (The Politics of Truth, by Wilson; pg4)

Joseph Klein's 7-5-04 article in Time (Plenty More to Swear About; pg 21) reveals that Plame was "active in a sting operation involving the trafficking of WMD components" when her identity was exposed by the White House. "Only a high-ranking official could have had access to the knowledge that Plame was on the pay-roll," an intelligence source told Klein.

There is clearly more to this story than the White House and senate republicans are willing to tell the public. What investigation by Plame needed to be derailed by the White House? I hope that national leaders and the media will focus attention on this important issue.

Sincerely,

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   LINK TO STOP PATRIOT ACT ENACTMENTS  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 03:14 PM   #1 
   There's a petition for Carter Foundation to monitor elections - does  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 03:18 PM   #3 
   The Carter Foundation won't monitor elections  Jacobin   Jul-15-04 03:21 PM   #4 
      Strike 2 - the UN said no also. Call up your polling places I guess  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 03:32 PM   #7 
      It is the parties who  burrowowl   Jul-15-04 05:54 PM   #36 
         SmilingThis's Florida Burrow-They're registered but votes not counted here  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 08:34 PM   #64 
      Welcome Jacobin, glad to have you add to the discourse.  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 05:16 PM   #29 
   Great job Pallas180  FrustratedDemInNC   Jul-15-04 03:27 PM   #6 
   What a great group of people. Think Tank. Schraby has come  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 03:35 PM   #8 
   Good name, but a little porn-site-ish  iconoclastic cat   Jul-15-04 04:05 PM   #11 
      hee hee - pornsiteish? okay - how about an acronym because  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 04:15 PM   #14 
         Don't get me wrong: definitely use CRUSH.  iconoclastic cat   Jul-15-04 04:18 PM   #17 
            I'm sure it'll be a dirty word to the enemy. And yes. Think tank.  calimary   Jul-15-04 08:01 PM   #56 
            More thoughts:  iconoclastic cat   Jul-15-04 08:22 PM   #59 
            I want to send my kids to your school  StandUpGuy   Jul-15-04 09:25 PM   #79 
            Good thinking, calimary, I like it.  BeFree   Jul-15-04 08:32 PM   #63 
            Dont you think the fastest way to turn people off is to  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 09:23 PM   #76 
            Turn off?  BeFree   Jul-15-04 09:40 PM   #80 
            Yes, this is an EXCELLENT idea.  calimary   Jul-15-04 11:37 PM   #103 
            I LOVE that idea!  Eloriel   Jul-15-04 11:57 PM   #106 
            Don't forget the instigators, antagonists  kohodog   Jul-15-04 09:00 PM   #70 
            "Eventually, we may wish to evolve"  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 09:18 PM   #75 
            This is ALL good, Pallas.  calimary   Jul-15-04 11:41 PM   #104 
            How do I send an internal e-mail  ralps   Jul-16-04 12:39 AM   #120 
               ralps  arbustochupa   Jul-16-04 06:05 AM   #154 
            I'm curious, calimary -- what did EarlG think of the idea?  arbustochupa   Jul-16-04 06:08 PM   #191 
            Laughing. ICONO=power and sexuality? crush is sexual? I dont think I want  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 08:36 PM   #65 
            That's just the copywriter in me talking.  iconoclastic cat   Jul-15-04 09:48 PM   #82 
               Nothing wrong with thinking about branding.  calimary   Jul-16-04 12:20 AM   #114 
                  CRUSH the corruption! ? CRUSH the cabal? crush em like cockroaches  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 12:25 AM   #115 
                     Got it" I Got A C.R.U.S.H. On You"to tune of the song & less threatening  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 12:53 AM   #124 
                     Got it."I Got A CRUSH On You"to tune of the song ? CRUSH  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 01:05 AM   #126 
            and  yodermon   Jul-15-04 10:36 PM   #91 
   Thanks Dem in NC, could you test URL's to old threads & if they work-  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 03:53 PM   #9 
   your link is broken  iconoclastic cat   Jul-15-04 04:07 PM   #12 
   ICONO - now I got it working - Ijust had to wait and click on url  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 04:17 PM   #16 
      Wont have time before tomorrow. It was KravenKitty (if I remember right)  beam_me_up   Jul-15-04 05:05 PM   #25 
         PDF 7 is up now, too  KleverKittie   Jul-15-04 06:37 PM   #41 
   Broken Link, Pallas...  Tellurian   Jul-16-04 08:35 AM   #158 
   Holy smokes, TWO ways! Dearest Pallas - you utterly ROCK!  calimary   Jul-15-04 03:16 PM   #2 
   A lighter note.  Wilber_Stool   Jul-15-04 03:22 PM   #5 
   Whoopi got fired for dirty language, but Cheney didn't-Here's Slim Fast's  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 03:54 PM   #10 
   lol.  yowzayowzayowza   Jul-15-04 04:12 PM   #13 
   LOL That's beautiful!  HootieMcBoob   Jul-15-04 04:37 PM   #21 
   real cute! n/t  arbustochupa   Jul-16-04 06:11 PM   #192 
   Thanks to everyone for compiling these resources!  iconoclastic cat   Jul-15-04 04:16 PM   #15 
   Famous Quotations, Some will make your hair stand on end & refer to what  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 04:25 PM   #18 
   If he's hearing voices.....  RebelYell   Jul-15-04 04:30 PM   #19 
   Recent Quotations:  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 04:31 PM   #20 
      Yikes!  FrustratedDemInNC   Jul-15-04 04:57 PM   #24 
   I got intimidated by the long thread - did anything happen yesterday?  Stephanie   Jul-15-04 04:39 PM   #22 
   Here's what happened yesterday, Stephanie.  robertpaulsen   Jul-15-04 05:55 PM   #37 
      Thank you! So there was some action after all.  Stephanie   Jul-15-04 07:32 PM   #51 
         H2O Man says Grand Jury was extended for 2 weeks.  robertpaulsen   Jul-15-04 08:40 PM   #66 
   THEORY OF THE WHY Valerie Plame Was Outed As CIA  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 04:55 PM   #23 
   We supply all the WMD to the ME  FrustratedDemInNC   Jul-15-04 05:07 PM   #26 
   DEM - we don't look so hot to the average person anymore.  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 05:11 PM   #28 
      Agree, Pallas,  FrustratedDemInNC   Jul-15-04 05:27 PM   #32 
   This would be a 'tectonic plate shift' in the beltway  JellyBean1   Jul-15-04 05:10 PM   #27 
   Is it Talking Points who mention "Tectonic Shift" ? we need to check  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 08:00 PM   #55 
      CLARK CLIFFORD AND ROBERT ALTMAN  shraby   Jul-15-04 09:08 PM   #73 
         Here is an interesting page  shraby   Jul-15-04 09:25 PM   #78 
         SHRABY - you mean this graph?  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 10:32 PM   #90 
            Yup. Thats it  shraby   Jul-15-04 10:37 PM   #92 
               Here is the list at the bottom  shraby   Jul-15-04 11:00 PM   #97 
               Here are the names off the chart  shraby   Jul-15-04 11:02 PM   #98 
               Man - SIX bushes. Funny how that name appears in the list more often  calimary   Jul-16-04 12:31 AM   #118 
               Did you catch Hinckley on that list? remember what I said on #7  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 12:48 AM   #123 
               I just found the answer about Keating & McVeigh I asked on #7  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 11:13 PM   #99 
               Everyone should DOWNLOAD THIS MAP and save it to their HD  beam_me_up   Jul-16-04 01:12 AM   #129 
               EVERYONE: DOWN LOAD THIS IMAGE TO YOUR H/D  beam_me_up   Jul-16-04 01:23 AM   #133 
               Technical difficulties making me  beam_me_up   Jul-16-04 01:41 AM   #137 
               EVERYONE: DOWNLOAD THIS DIAGRAM TO YOUR H/D  beam_me_up   Jul-16-04 01:26 AM   #134 
         I vaguely recall Clifford connected to the CIA as was the bank- now  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 09:41 PM   #81 
   "Now how many times have you profiteered?"  beam_me_up   Jul-15-04 05:19 PM   #30 
   How did they know there were WMD in Iraq?  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 05:38 PM   #34 
   Current US policy toward Saudi Arabia is WINO  robertpaulsen   Jul-15-04 06:20 PM   #40 
   This is worth remembering...  Lestatdelc   Jul-17-04 12:57 AM   #298 
   Regarding Pallas' give 'em hell letter  NewJeffCT   Jul-15-04 05:25 PM   #31 
   JEFF - the sources are news articles, which we linked and printed  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 05:33 PM   #33 
      I agree with Jeff  StandUpGuy   Jul-15-04 05:56 PM   #38 
         Thanks STAND UP - the point is we have done the work, long  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 07:01 PM   #46 
            You misunderstand my point  StandUpGuy   Jul-15-04 07:28 PM   #49 
               STAND UP that's great. post more often.Dimson isn't mentally  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 07:43 PM   #52 
               & next question: Which Congresscritter is NWO & which is for the people?  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 07:50 PM   #53 
               I agree 99% with you  StandUpGuy   Jul-15-04 08:04 PM   #58 
                  STAND-UP - I hope you're right-but we need a Deepthroat to get the goods  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 08:28 PM   #60 
                  You'll be waiting for a long time.  StandUpGuy   Jul-15-04 09:16 PM   #74 
                     Standup,  kohodog   Jul-15-04 10:11 PM   #86 
                     WE HAVE ONE WEEK LEFT TO GET LETTERS TO CONGRESS B4 RECESS  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 10:43 PM   #94 
                     Agreed  StandUpGuy   Jul-15-04 11:36 PM   #102 
                        STAND UP. Good! also send our letters to STEWART & STERN-free PR-talking p  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 12:30 AM   #117 
                           CALIMARY you have to get hold of John Dean & have a lil talk about us &  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 12:32 AM   #119 
                     It's all going to collapse-between now and 2012 and from what  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 10:23 PM   #88 
                        Is it too late to fight back?  kohodog   Jul-15-04 10:52 PM   #95 
                        As long as you have breath you have hope  StandUpGuy   Jul-15-04 11:48 PM   #105 
                           STAND UP-who do you think is the 2nd global superpower?  Pallas180   Jul-17-04 03:29 AM   #315 
                        Why 2012 ?  StandUpGuy   Jul-15-04 11:58 PM   #107 
                        financial collapse I think is imminent, we are in it, the change in  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 12:44 AM   #121 
                        The year 2012 - Traditional Mayan Elders on their Calendar  SpiralHawk   Jul-16-04 02:18 PM   #178 
                           I've thought about the calendar  shraby   Jul-16-04 02:31 PM   #180 
                           Schraby, the world is not going to end in 2012. Changes not endings.  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 11:15 PM   #266 
                           Actually I was thinking of a 224 year cycle, which recurred this year and  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 11:12 PM   #265 
                        Its not gonna collapse  JellyBean1   Jul-16-04 12:26 AM   #116 
                           What if it needs to collapse?  kohodog   Jul-16-04 02:21 PM   #179 
                              Agreed Koho. And then there is the announcement this week  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 11:25 PM   #269 
                              Just think of the mess on kitchen floors by the refrigerator...  kohodog   Jul-17-04 12:08 AM   #277 
                                 Ah, a practical girl. girl?  Pallas180   Jul-17-04 03:33 AM   #316 
                              "What if it needs to collapse?"  JellyBean1   Jul-17-04 04:23 AM   #323 
                  They didn't plan on the Internet  JellyBean1   Jul-16-04 02:17 AM   #145 
               STAND - prolly could add links as footnotes to the letter.  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 04:11 AM   #151 
   Interesting sites connecting Khan with the Carlyle Group.  robertpaulsen   Jul-15-04 05:49 PM   #35 
   Thanks for a recap  burrowowl   Jul-15-04 06:13 PM   #39 
   All roads lead to the NWO & those making themselves rich while they propel  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 07:30 PM   #50 
      Little factoid--NWO--9/11/90  Snazzy   Jul-15-04 07:50 PM   #54 
         Thanks SNAZZY. Boy it's all intertwined & been in the works a long time.  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 08:03 PM   #57 
         All 'pie in the sky talk' of the greater good coming from one of the  Tellurian   Jul-15-04 08:32 PM   #62 
            TELL - I found this on Fukiyama but the link won't open - can  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 11:00 PM   #96 
               I thought you said you were a detective?????  Tellurian   Jul-16-04 12:08 AM   #110 
                  TELL, no I didn't say I was a detective. Close but no cigar! ROFL  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 12:57 AM   #125 
   The WMD seems to be a part of larger plan for :NEW WORLD ORDER  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 06:38 PM   #42 
   I think this link illustrates exactly what you're saying.  robertpaulsen   Jul-15-04 07:00 PM   #45 
      ROBERTP-incredible! how did you find that? Is it  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 07:11 PM   #47 
         Briley's a strange guy - not sure what to make of him.  robertpaulsen   Jul-15-04 08:32 PM   #61 
            From libetrypost is the following link  JellyBean1   Jul-15-04 08:53 PM   # 
            From  JellyBean1   Jul-15-04 08:57 PM   #68 
               More from next link in consortium  JellyBean1   Jul-15-04 09:08 PM   #72 
                  From Fas Cox report  JellyBean1   Jul-15-04 09:59 PM   #84 
                     It's interesting in light of the  shraby   Jul-15-04 10:30 PM   #89 
                     Yes it is interesting  JellyBean1   Jul-15-04 10:42 PM   #93 
                     JELLY BEAN - Links we absolutely needed. One shocking lie after another by  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 12:01 AM   #108 
                        Thanks I want to help  JellyBean1   Jul-16-04 12:15 AM   #112 
                           Hey JELLY - you come up with the really good stuff-  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 01:13 AM   #130 
                              Bounce, I use the smiley lookup table is there another way?  JellyBean1   Jul-16-04 01:44 AM   #139 
                              Click on the smilies table  shraby   Jul-16-04 01:49 AM   #140 
                                 some setting won't allow me to do that - haven't figured out yet  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 12:57 PM   #172 
            Thank you robertpaulsen  JellyBean1   Jul-15-04 10:09 PM   #85 
            Where is Sibel Edmonds physically? She need to be careful  Pallas180   Jul-15-04 11:21 PM   #100 
               Here is what I see in latest google news on sibel  JellyBean1   Jul-16-04 12:04 AM   #109 
                  LOOKS LIKE OUR LETTERS NEED TO GO TO LEAHY & GRASSLEY  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 12:18 AM   #113 
   Novak has taken claw to paper again on our subject  party_line   Jul-15-04 06:44 PM   #43 
   Josh Marshall answers it here  party_line   Jul-15-04 06:53 PM   #44 
   question  warrior1   Jul-15-04 07:15 PM   #48 
      Do you suppose we  shraby   Jul-15-04 09:01 PM   #71 
   This point in Marshall's report...  Tellurian   Jul-15-04 08:59 PM   #69 
      Smoke and mirrors  party_line   Jul-15-04 09:24 PM   #77 
      I totally agree...  Tellurian   Jul-15-04 11:34 PM   #101 
      OOPS.Wilson was the last diplomat in Iraq?What about April Glasby?  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 01:22 AM   #132 
         He was there during Desert Shield/Storm  Lestatdelc   Jul-17-04 03:12 AM   #313 
      "little to do with preventing any sort of standing threat "  TacticalPeak   Jul-16-04 12:46 AM   #122 
         Strange, that-- coming from Roberts...  Tellurian   Jul-16-04 01:07 AM   #127 
            Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman: clue not required.  TacticalPeak   Jul-16-04 01:21 AM   #131 
   Pallas, you scared me!  kohodog   Jul-15-04 08:53 PM   #67 
   Kick for H2O Man.....Where Is He?  Rockholm   Jul-15-04 09:49 PM   #83 
   Good evening.  H2O Man   Jul-15-04 10:19 PM   #87 
   Good evening to you, H20man!  beam_me_up   Jul-16-04 12:12 AM   #111 
   H20 We've made some big discoveries on this thread-when are you writing th  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 01:09 AM   #128 
   H20-our discoveries on this thread are well worth reading every thread.  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 01:32 AM   #135 
   Anybody seen Arbustochupa tonite?  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 01:40 AM   #136 
   Received call tonight that every polling place is going to have a dem lawy  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 01:41 AM   #138 
   Even though the U$ has more lawyers than  burrowowl   Jul-16-04 02:09 AM   #144 
      BURROW these are volunteer lawyers. Some lawyers are even demos, look  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 02:05 PM   #177 
   Quotation from a Director World Health Organization(b4 calling it a nite:  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 01:53 AM   #141 
   "We Will Have A World Govt Whether You Like It Or Not"  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 02:07 AM   #143 
   I'm still here, they haven't carried me off for wearing an anti-* T-shirt  arbustochupa   Jul-16-04 05:52 AM   #152 
   Gentlemen, start your engines!  TacticalPeak   Jul-16-04 01:58 AM   #142 
   John F. Kennedy was assassinated 10 days after he said:  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 02:37 AM   #146 
   Where did you find that?  shraby   Jul-16-04 03:03 AM   #147 
      A treasure-trove - some are mind boggling :  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 03:06 AM   #148 
         ACLU Steps In On Being Arrested For Wearing Anti-*ush T-Shirts  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 03:08 AM   #149 
   TACTICAL-This one's for you-SidneyBlumenthal-TheGuardian  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 03:39 AM   #150 
   Thanks, Pallas.  TacticalPeak   Jul-17-04 12:57 AM   #297 
   Excellent article, Pallas  arbustochupa   Jul-17-04 10:14 AM   #351 
   Way cool, Tactical Peak. Thanks for posting that.  arbustochupa   Jul-16-04 05:58 AM   #153 
      Good Morning!  kohodog   Jul-16-04 07:52 AM   #155 
         Thank you, friend kohodog!  H2O Man   Jul-16-04 08:38 AM   #159 
         thanks, kohodog! I'm doing rather well, just a little busy!  arbustochupa   Jul-16-04 10:36 AM   #165 
   Good morning!  H2O Man   Jul-16-04 07:58 AM   #156 
   True conservative opinion on this scandal:  H2O Man   Jul-16-04 08:21 AM   #157 
   "Intelligence failure or policy failure?"  H2O Man   Jul-16-04 08:51 AM   #160 
      Thanks for keeping US up to date on this important issue, H2O Man!  saywhat   Jul-16-04 09:04 AM   #161 
         Please don't rely on Kerry getting the presidency...  Tellurian   Jul-16-04 09:16 AM   #162 
            Can They Delay This Til After The Election ala Nixon?  redstateliberal   Jul-16-04 09:48 AM   #163 
            They certainly are trying to.....  H2O Man   Jul-16-04 10:26 AM   #164 
               H20, Pallas acknowledges with a bow of the head:) College contacts  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 01:39 PM   #174 
                  Pallas  StandUpGuy   Jul-16-04 09:30 PM   #249 
                     The difference with this election is  shraby   Jul-16-04 09:47 PM   #254 
                     Have you received the personal guarantee from Kerry.  StandUpGuy   Jul-16-04 10:47 PM   #262 
                     Standupguy you raise some interesting points  JellyBean1   Jul-17-04 05:07 AM   #329 
                     SHRABY YOU;RE RIGHT. they have to be pressured to undo all the treachery  Pallas180   Jul-17-04 03:57 AM   #319 
                        Thank you Pallas.  shraby   Jul-17-04 04:20 AM   #322 
                     Standup,  kohodog   Jul-16-04 10:48 PM   #263 
                     I would agree if it were not for the spirit of the American people  StandUpGuy   Jul-16-04 11:18 PM   #267 
                        Do you suggest we sit on out hands  shraby   Jul-16-04 11:36 PM   #271 
                           Shraby  StandUpGuy   Jul-17-04 12:15 AM   #279 
                           FDR was very moderate during his campaign,  kohodog   Jul-17-04 12:28 AM   #284 
                           Its more serious than that I think.  StandUpGuy   Jul-17-04 12:44 AM   #289 
                           STAND UP GUY- absolutely not. No way can Kerry tell what he knows.  Pallas180   Jul-17-04 04:04 AM   #320 
                           The American people will not stand...  StandUpGuy   Jul-17-04 12:24 AM   #283 
                     STANDBY- Why We Know This's The Most Important Election In Our Lifetime?  Pallas180   Jul-17-04 03:11 AM   #312 
            Tellurian, I concur  arbustochupa   Jul-16-04 10:40 AM   #166 
               Thanks, arby...we now have a "secret agent museum.."  Tellurian   Jul-16-04 10:54 AM   #168 
                  Oh, how simply adorable. Let's all go and learn how to be spies  arbustochupa   Jul-16-04 05:41 PM   #186 
   Good morning H20 the same occurred to me-lack of medical care for undesira  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 01:13 PM   #173 
   Salon and Joe Wilson himself weigh in today  party_line   Jul-16-04 10:54 AM   #167 
   Tactical Peak started a discussion here for the salon article in LBN..  Tellurian   Jul-16-04 11:09 AM   #169 
   Actually Tellurian Party Line's article is different from TP's  arbustochupa   Jul-16-04 05:56 PM   #188 
   One for the Good Guys  Me.   Jul-16-04 11:22 AM   #170 
      Joe Conason is one of a few journalists you can trust...  Tellurian   Jul-16-04 12:44 PM   #171 
      HEY ME!! Jackpot! Conason is a hero of truth. Great move!  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 01:50 PM   #175 
   My two cents: Why indict now? Why not wait?  ozymandius   Jul-16-04 02:03 PM   #176 
   Mods:  shraby   Jul-16-04 04:22 PM   #181 
   HI SCHRABY, it's tough to send out letters and stay on thread  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 05:05 PM   #184 
      My latest letter sent from CRUSH  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 05:08 PM   #185 
         Good One! n/t  arbustochupa   Jul-16-04 05:59 PM   #190 
         Just Shows To Go Ya O/T  Me.   Jul-16-04 06:49 PM   #195 
            ME - Pssst - Pallas Athena, Goddess of Justice - I'll go for that  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 06:54 PM   #196 
   I'm with you, ozymandius. I think the best possible timing for this  arbustochupa   Jul-16-04 06:46 PM   #194 
   Does anyone know the procedure  shraby   Jul-16-04 06:55 PM   #197 
   The indictments are "sent" to a fedral court....  H2O Man   Jul-16-04 07:15 PM   #200 
      Thank you H20  shraby   Jul-16-04 07:25 PM   #201 
      One more question  shraby   Jul-16-04 07:33 PM   #202 
         Think about your question:  H2O Man   Jul-16-04 07:47 PM   #208 
            I see that Perle left  shraby   Jul-16-04 07:57 PM   #215 
            Yes.  H2O Man   Jul-16-04 08:07 PM   #221 
            When Mary Carville and the Karen Hughes left, I wondered what was  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 08:13 PM   #225 
               Mary has more insight  H2O Man   Jul-16-04 08:25 PM   #229 
            Hopefully when the indictments  shraby   Jul-16-04 08:07 PM   #222 
            "There exists a shadowy Government with its own Air Force  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 08:10 PM   #223 
            Wilson writes about cheney's  H2O Man   Jul-16-04 08:31 PM   #231 
               And that is absolutely what it is. A govt. within the govt. These  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 08:56 PM   #238 
                  Yes.  H2O Man   Jul-16-04 09:16 PM   #245 
            Gingrich is still on the Defense Policy Board. n/t  ozymandius   Jul-16-04 09:03 PM   #240 
            Newt Gingrich is a dangerous person ideologically and politically.  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 09:17 PM   #246 
      Do You Really Think There is a Big "I" for Rove Coming Down the Pike?  Me.   Jul-16-04 07:33 PM   #203 
      Ignorance of the law is not an excuse for anyone.  merh   Jul-16-04 07:48 PM   #210 
      H20 - how do you know Rove is claiming he didn't know that he  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 07:34 PM   #204 
         Okay, folks, this is your administration....  H2O Man   Jul-16-04 08:06 PM   #220 
            OK H20 - but who gave the order to expose her? Rove or Cheney  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 08:30 PM   #230 
            Very good -- as always!  H2O Man   Jul-16-04 09:07 PM   #243 
               I remember reading about a meeting  shraby   Jul-16-04 09:20 PM   #248 
            A refresher in legal terms as to what this may mean for Bush:  ozymandius   Jul-16-04 08:48 PM   #236 
            Yes.  H2O Man   Jul-16-04 09:18 PM   #247 
            Thanks. A little legal description of consequence never hurts. :)  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 10:16 PM   #258 
            If Bush knew, I would guess  shraby   Jul-16-04 09:04 PM   #241 
            That's why Karen was called back to DC. The frigid temp between Rove & Che  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 09:48 PM   #255 
            Interesting  Lestatdelc   Jul-17-04 12:43 AM   #288 
   It has to blow up soon!  burrowowl   Jul-16-04 10:45 PM   #261 
   There are advantages to having indictments  H2O Man   Jul-16-04 06:56 PM   #198 
   However, like the Enron investigation - it is not uncommon  merh   Jul-16-04 07:44 PM   #207 
   One other good thing could happen  shraby   Jul-16-04 07:49 PM   #211 
   That is a good point.  merh   Jul-16-04 07:57 PM   #214 
   In this case, I do hope someone leans on Condoleezza Rice.  ozymandius   Jul-16-04 08:58 PM   #239 
      That's the point...  merh   Jul-17-04 12:49 AM   #292 
   Time is not on the Administration's side either way.  ozymandius   Jul-16-04 08:03 PM   #218 
      Flommoxed. That's an Irish word, hardly ever heard. & where did  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 08:18 PM   #228 
         It must be genetic.  ozymandius   Jul-16-04 08:36 PM   #233 
            OZY - next you'll be calling everyone "kiddo" too. We have a  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 08:43 PM   #235 
               I've been known to use that term - 'kiddo'.  ozymandius   Jul-16-04 08:54 PM   #237 
                  chuckling - Oh and begorra! - they'll soon send us bangers or  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 09:06 PM   #242 
                     Oh! Mercy! Not blood sausage!  ozymandius   Jul-16-04 09:12 PM   #244 
   Fitzgerald could seal the indictments with permission of the  merh   Jul-16-04 07:35 PM   #206 
      Thanks for this.  ozymandius   Jul-16-04 07:56 PM   #213 
         No, I don't think so, I think he is trying to get the leverage to have  merh   Jul-16-04 08:00 PM   #216 
            I doubt you could walk into the WH with body wires. would have  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 08:05 PM   #219 
               Fitzgerald did it  H2O Man   Jul-16-04 09:33 PM   #250 
               Who was it who was turned in Dec 2003?  ramblin_dave   Jul-16-04 10:41 PM   #260 
               Body wire is a figure of speech. In this day and age of technology,  merh   Jul-17-04 12:55 AM   #296 
   The Plame Investigation can, indeed, locate all the buried bodies  loudsue   Jul-16-04 04:42 PM   #182 
   HI LOUD SUE, Sadie, Sadie, Married Lady- wher'd you go on  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 05:04 PM   #183 
   Congratulations, Loudsue!  arbustochupa   Jul-16-04 05:43 PM   #187 
   Congrats Loudsue, and welcome back! Abu Gharib...  kohodog   Jul-16-04 06:38 PM   #193 
   KOHO i would bet there's one person here who may know him.  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 07:05 PM   #199 
   Seymore Hersch has been  H2O Man   Jul-16-04 07:34 PM   #205 
   H2O, you've mentioned a time or two that you would like to  arbustochupa   Jul-16-04 07:47 PM   #209 
      ARBY - I'd rather be the sultry intern who stumbles onto the whole plot &  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 07:55 PM   #212 
      fishnet stockings, check. 3-inch heels, check. red lipstick, check  arbustochupa   Jul-16-04 08:02 PM   #217 
         ROFL laughing- lose the fishnet stockings. Yes H20 Prof. - you  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 08:17 PM   #227 
         oy, you guys will insist on changing the costumes, then okay  arbustochupa   Jul-16-04 09:55 PM   #256 
         Hmmmm......  H2O Man   Jul-16-04 09:45 PM   #252 
            Hey Kiddo. You better NOT be the nutty professor . My thought BTW  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 10:14 PM   #257 
      I couldn't be Deep Throat.  H2O Man   Jul-16-04 08:15 PM   #226 
         OK. I could go for Denzel. Rove - must be having palpitations because his  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 08:34 PM   #232 
         Hmmmm. I was thinking more like Peter O' Toole for you. You're  arbustochupa   Jul-16-04 09:46 PM   #253 
            I should only look like Angelina Jolie.! n/t  Pallas180   Jul-16-04 11:01 PM   #264 
            Just the facts, M'am.....  H2O Man   Jul-17-04 12:07 AM   #276 
               okay you can keep the fedora.  arbustochupa   Jul-17-04 09:11 AM   #347 
   Here's the link.  Wilber_Stool   Jul-16-04 08:11 PM   #224 
   Another link for a video version  kohodog   Jul-16-04 11:32 PM   #270 
   Thanks to all for the congrats.....and I will e-mail the whole country,  loudsue   Jul-16-04 08:41 PM   #234 
      Hello, loudsue!  H2O Man   Jul-16-04 09:40 PM   #251 
   how exciting! CONGRATULATIONS, Loudsue!!! nt  progressivebebe   Jul-17-04 02:25 AM   #309 
   arbustochupa's letter is actually H2O's letter n/t  arbustochupa   Jul-16-04 05:58 PM   #189 
   Joseph Wilson's response  HootieMcBoob   Jul-16-04 10:34 PM   #259 
   Seriously dudes! Has anybody read this letter yet?  HootieMcBoob   Jul-16-04 11:20 PM   #268 
   You are forgiven, HootieMcB. Feel at home with the rest of us sinners!  TacticalPeak   Jul-16-04 11:52 PM   #272 
   Thanks  HootieMcBoob   Jul-17-04 12:00 AM   #274 
      That's great HOOTIE - sending letters I mean, looks like we'll  Pallas180   Jul-17-04 04:38 AM   #326 
   Hi Hootie  kohodog   Jul-16-04 11:58 PM   #273 
      I caught that breifing on C-Span last night  Lestatdelc   Jul-17-04 12:20 AM   #281 
      Did you hear the applause?  kohodog   Jul-17-04 12:45 AM   #290 
      I think the applause was for his sick vanity line  Lestatdelc   Jul-17-04 01:04 AM   #301 
      I wonder  kgfnally   Jul-17-04 02:40 AM   #310 
         maybe I got the applause wrong  kohodog   Jul-17-04 02:48 AM   #311 
      Applause for that? Proof that Les Kinsolving had his parents at the gaggle  TacticalPeak   Jul-17-04 12:53 AM   #294 
   Iran and Iraq not Libya (per se)  Lestatdelc   Jul-17-04 12:04 AM   #275 
   I agree  H2O Man   Jul-17-04 12:17 AM   #280 
      What I am trying to figure out is...  Lestatdelc   Jul-17-04 12:32 AM   #286 
         Jumping in a little late here  TheCentepedeShoes   Jul-17-04 09:15 AM   #348 
   Does anyone have Joe Wilson's book?  RebelYell   Jul-17-04 12:09 AM   #278 
   His book was published by  H2O Man   Jul-17-04 12:22 AM   #282 
      What would we do without you, H2O?  RebelYell   Jul-17-04 12:29 AM   #285 
         You are welcome!  H2O Man   Jul-17-04 12:41 AM   #287 
         I think he would appreciate  RebelYell   Jul-17-04 12:54 AM   #295 
         Tony Blair's defense is starting to crack...  Me.   Jul-17-04 12:50 AM   #293 
            "There is a crack in everything...  kohodog   Jul-17-04 12:58 AM   #299 
            And Over at DU (the regular one)...  Me.   Jul-17-04 12:59 AM   #300 
               If Iraq wanted to talk to Niger,  TacticalPeak   Jul-17-04 01:44 AM   #307 
   Joe Wilson's LTTE in 7/17 WP  huckleberry   Jul-17-04 12:47 AM   #291 
   little bit more...  Tellurian   Jul-17-04 01:14 AM   #302 
   Thanks, Huckleberry. Washington Post = Washington Funnel  TacticalPeak   Jul-17-04 01:18 AM   #303 
      and one would ask...  Tellurian   Jul-17-04 01:26 AM   #305 
      It's time for another thread.  shraby   Jul-17-04 01:48 AM   #308 
   Joe Wilson scheduled to be on CNN Late Edition with Lamb Leslie Sunday..  TacticalPeak   Jul-17-04 01:26 AM   #304 
   On with Marc Racicot?  Tellurian   Jul-17-04 01:31 AM   #306 
   The wheels are coming off... (a consolidated post)  Lestatdelc   Jul-17-04 03:23 AM   #314 
      hmmm...  Tellurian   Jul-17-04 03:39 AM   #317 
         Disagree  Lestatdelc   Jul-17-04 03:52 AM   #318 
         Not So...  Tellurian   Jul-17-04 04:14 AM   #321 
            Either way, the best part is  shraby   Jul-17-04 04:26 AM   #324 
            Too much of a bank-shot  Lestatdelc   Jul-17-04 04:28 AM   #325 
            Occam's Razor..  Tellurian   Jul-17-04 04:49 AM   #327 
               Huh...?  Lestatdelc   Jul-17-04 05:12 AM   #331 
                  easy...  Tellurian   Jul-17-04 05:17 AM   #334 
                     Again.. huh?  Lestatdelc   Jul-17-04 05:23 AM   #337 
                        keep reading...  Tellurian   Jul-17-04 05:26 AM   #338 
                           Well that was useless  Lestatdelc   Jul-17-04 05:35 AM   #340 
                              If Cheney felt Plame was as much of a threat as you think...  Tellurian   Jul-17-04 05:42 AM   #341 
                                 Not likely  Lestatdelc   Jul-17-04 05:48 AM   #342 
                                    you've just impeached yourself... you can't have it both ways..  Tellurian   Jul-17-04 05:59 AM   #343 
                                       Oh please...  Lestatdelc   Jul-17-04 06:52 AM   #344 
                                          The only threat they continue to out is Wilson..  Tellurian   Jul-17-04 08:58 AM   #346 
            Nope.Cheney was onto Plame from haunting the CIA he knew what work shedid  Pallas180   Jul-17-04 05:10 AM   #330 
               I know  Lestatdelc   Jul-17-04 05:15 AM   #333 
               got a link..  Tellurian   Jul-17-04 05:20 AM   #335 
                  Tellurian H2O has supported this theory in other posts -- maybe  arbustochupa   Jul-17-04 10:07 AM   #350 
                     Arby...I've reread the composite post in #314  Tellurian   Jul-17-04 10:46 AM   #352 
                        no harm done at all. Just pointing out that H2O  arbustochupa   Jul-17-04 10:56 AM   #353 
                           Kudos, arby...  Tellurian   Jul-17-04 11:10 AM   #354 
         TELL - H20 always says ask WHY was the Brit info made unavailaable  Pallas180   Jul-17-04 05:06 AM   #328 
            I think we have some more problems  shraby   Jul-17-04 05:13 AM   #332 
            Once more we have to applaud Bush-Girl Barbara Bodine  Lestatdelc   Jul-17-04 05:33 AM   #339 
            SCHRABY- Don't ask Mod for new thread -we need to do ourselves so that w  Pallas180   Jul-17-04 05:22 AM   #336 
               US sacks its woman in Baghdad (Barbara Bodine)  shraby   Jul-17-04 07:05 AM   #345 
               Pallas better to post the congress & media links in post 2  arbustochupa   Jul-17-04 09:21 AM   #349 
                  New Thread # 9 Coming Up  Pallas180   Jul-17-04 11:19 AM   #355 
                  Actually if letters are in #1 relates to eeveryone what the whole thing is  Pallas180   Jul-17-04 11:31 AM   #356 
                     So much really good stuff this thread-pls all repost best yours on #9  Pallas180   Jul-17-04 11:35 AM   #357 
 
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1. LINK TO STOP PATRIOT ACT ENACTMENTS
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15. Link to ACLU concerning Patriot ACT II

Edited on Tue Jul-13-04 10:41 PM by shraby
They want to pass a piece of Patriot Act II which will expand the death penalty for civil disobedience?

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3. There's a petition for Carter Foundation to monitor elections - does
anyone have the link?
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4. The Carter Foundation won't monitor elections
unless a country has uniform voting procedures.

Our elections are un-monitorable............sigh.........
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 03:32 PM
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7. Strike 2 - the UN said no also. Call up your polling places I guess
and find out how to be poll monitor.

Last time I volunteered for the Dems, and I was assigned a polling place and given phone number to Dem lawyers to report anything funny.

They used the electronic voting machines, and a tape came out the
back saying how many votes were made...but no receipt was ever given to the voter.

We need to go back to paper ballots - until there's no way to hack
those computers and until they give out recorded vote for recount.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 05:54 PM
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36. It is the parties who
send monitors to the polls, so call your DNC or Green Party HQs. To be an election judge or clerk call the county clerk or secretary of state.
This election I strongly recommend getting involved at the polls. I will be an election judge.
Also you can ask your Party HQ about driving people to the polls.
In the mean time start getting people to register. Time is running out in about a month people will start sending in their absentee ballots.
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 08:34 PM
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64. SmilingThis's Florida Burrow-They're registered but votes not counted here
:)
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 05:16 PM
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29. Welcome Jacobin, glad to have you add to the discourse.
:hi:
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Wind Dancer (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 03:27 PM
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6. Great job Pallas180
for putting it all together like this. Thanks to everybody else for contributing to these great threads - our mission is alive and growing.
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 03:35 PM
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8. What a great group of people. Think Tank. Schraby has come
up with an acronym for us:

C.R.U.S.H.

CITIZENS for RESTORING UNITED STATES HONOR

What do you think?

too militaristic or just right?

We want to crush the crooks - but will people think we're militaristic
when they see the initials?
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iconoclastic cat (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 04:05 PM
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11. Good name, but a little porn-site-ish
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 04:15 PM
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14. hee hee - pornsiteish? okay - how about an acronym because
we're not going away.

Citizens for Restoring United States ?

CRUS

Constitution? crusc

liberties crusl

????

citizens for restoring united states TODAY
crust?????

The thugs always name theirs something that sounds like mom and applie pie but in actuality is always the opposite...like MOM actually means VAmpire
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iconoclastic cat (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 04:18 PM
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17. Don't get me wrong: definitely use CRUSH.
It evokes both power and sexuality, both of which are always big sellers.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-15-04 08:01 PM
Response to Reply #17
56. I'm sure it'll be a dirty word to the enemy. And yes. Think tank.
Edited on Thu Jul-15-04 08:06 PM by calimary
That's because, as this single series of threads has VERY clearly demonstrated, we here at DU have all the attributes of an honest-to-goodness (INDEED! In OUR case, anyway) Think Tank.

I mentioned this in an email to EarlG a few weeks ago, after bringing it up a couple of times in trial-balloon fashion.

Assuming a Kerry/Edwards win, especially, but even if not, come November, we may want to consider repositioning ourselves for the sake of clout and credibility, and maybe, ultimately, some grant support or other financial something-or-others. We need to be the Ninja Angel arm of the Democratic Party, a powerful and instant-reaction/rapid-response resource, an extra set of hands, MANY extra sets of brains, and even a little bit of conscience thrown in. Yes thre's the the Center for American Progress. Yes there's the Brookings Institution. Yes there are others, but there are also think tanks galore out there buttressing the efforts of the republi-CON party all over the map. THERE IS NO REASON WHY WE DEMOCRATS CANNOT AND SHOULD NOT HAVE THE SAME EMBARRASSMENT OF RICHES/RESOURCES, EITHER.

Consider: We have everything a good, proactive, enterprising, effective, influential think tank should have.

Among our numbers (just those we know of), there are
- researchers/librarians
- strategists/strategic planners
- academics/teachers
- historians
- writers/journalists
- pollsters/statisticians/analysts
- front men/women and other people savvy in pr/public speaking
- government insiders/politicians/policy makers
- finance/sales people
- internet specialists
- activists/organizers
- designers/art directors/artists
- management people/executives
- psychologists/attorneys/medical and other professionals
- philosophers/religious people
- domestic and international members
- a vast and varied representation of American society, many of whom can speak to (and from) specific segments of the population regarding race, religion, age, and sexual orientation, and the issues that concern them. This broad spectrum of experience better informs, leavens and empowers our influence, objectives, and lobbying potential.

Eventually, we may wish to evolve, in the interest of having more muscle to flex (perhaps more financial muscle), and with which to be taken more seriously. Many of us have, from time to time, expressed the wish to be able to have an impact, and to make a difference. As fellows of the Democratic Underground Think Tank, we might just do that. The opposition will misunderestimate us - at their peril.

JUST A THOUGHT.
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iconoclastic cat (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 08:22 PM
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59. More thoughts:
Edited on Thu Jul-15-04 08:23 PM by iconoclastic cat
calimary:
First: I'm a fan of your work here at DU. Thanks for your lists!

I feel the need to add another subgroup to your list of DU assets: --Teachers/professors/education professionals

Have you read Paulo Freire? If not, you and everyone else at DU must read Pedagogy of the Oppressed. Freire states that a specific model of discourse is compatible with fighting oppression, and many teachers whom I have met have incorporated this into their teaching practices--sometimes at great risk to their careers. I spoke to Jonathan Kozol last year, and he said to a group of us, "Be mischievous. Tell the bureaucrats what they want to hear, then close the door and teach your kids to think, and to tell truth from lies."

I suppose my point in this is to say that a DU think tank could use teachers' input in a variety of capacities, from voter education to helping to set Dept. of Ed policy; in addition, there are those who are in the position of inoculating children from the awful malaise that characterizes those who we deride as "sheeple."

More thoughts for the tank.
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StandUpGuy (392 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 09:25 PM
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79. I want to send my kids to your school
When i have some.

But I've often thought that I'm going to be ALL over my kids teachers and administrators to make sure they don't try and teach my, or any other kids lies.

Might be wishful thinking but I have thought about it quite a bit.

Your post rocked !
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 08:32 PM
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63. Good thinking, calimary, I like it.
A logical extension of the Think Tank would be a paid DU Think Tank Lobbyist, don't ya think? For a couple of bucks a year from each of us, we could have a DC based person actually working the halls of congress spreading our 'Thinks' and reporting back to us.

Wouldn't it be nice to have someone reporting almost daily from DC? Reports not only about the reaction to our 'Thinks', but also leads, pending actions and a continuing who's who of insiders willing to take what we give 'em.

Yes, it would take a fair share of organization, but if we could put it together, it would be a first for the American people!
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 09:23 PM
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76. Dont you think the fastest way to turn people off is to
start asking them for money?
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 09:40 PM
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80. Turn off?
If there is no money, there is no DU lobbyist. Do ya not like the idea of a DU lobbyist? If not, why not, what's wrong with the idea?

Heck, I'd donate some pretty good coin to a DU lobbyist if ya'll could get one lined up.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-15-04 11:37 PM
Response to Reply #63
103. Yes, this is an EXCELLENT idea.
The whole idea of having more voices speaking for US, the Good Guys, the NO LONGER Silenced Majority, is good. It's what we need. Whichever way it's organized, it's a good idea.

The reason the wrong-wing has been allowed to run roughshod over everything is because not enough people stood up to object, or to stop them, or even just to call 'em on it. And certainly nobody, up til recently, was there ready, willing, and able to hit back.

I would just like to see a huge pendulum swing to the proper side, to correct the many many wrongs that have been perpetrated on our country and its citizens. It's time to outshout the limbaughs, hannitys, Pox "news" networks, et al!
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 11:57 PM
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106. I LOVE that idea!
Absolutely outstanding.
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kohodog (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 09:00 PM
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70. Don't forget the instigators, antagonists
Like a little brother or sisters who like to keep things stirred up a bit and who bring a slightly different perspective.

"I'm not touching you!"
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 09:18 PM
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75. "Eventually, we may wish to evolve"
Calimary,

yes, we kicked this around a bit on two previous threads....but
certainly didn't put it as well as you have.

But we wouldn't call ourselves Democratic Underground anything - sounds subversive - and as far as finances go - or non profit -
it would be nice to apply for a grant from the repbulican govt before
they shut off that supply. :)

But first, looking at the immediate goal, is the election.
All plans hinge on the election and how it goes. After that there's time for a long term upstanding brilliant think-tank of all the minds on here to take its place in the world - maybe.

First comes planning how we will get in touch with each other in the event 1)they steal the election or 2)there is no election and/or 3) there is martial law.

If K/E doesn't get in, I doubt we will have to be thinking about a formal think tank concerned with liberties.

The point is to pre-plan contact and itinerary in the event this misadministration takes extreme action, which obviously have been part of their plan from 1980 when Ollie first wrote the pre-cursor to the Patriot Act and the Executive Orders for FEMA=HSA

Some have already e mailed me and we will be setting up a separate
chat room away from DU. So if your interested send me an internal
e mail. (Of course you're interested.)

But planning openly online here isn't the wisest.

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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-15-04 11:41 PM
Response to Reply #75
104. This is ALL good, Pallas.
Edited on Thu Jul-15-04 11:41 PM by calimary
Eyes on the Prize, Guys!

(And yes, I emailed you!)
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-16-04 12:39 AM
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120. How do I send an internal e-mail
ralps
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154. ralps
go to one of Pallas' posts and click on the mail icon (sends email) or on the squiggly lines/letter icon to send a private message.
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coeur_de_lion (927 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-16-04 06:08 PM
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191. I'm curious, calimary -- what did EarlG think of the idea?
Edited on Fri Jul-16-04 06:08 PM by arbustochupa
I love it.
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 08:36 PM
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65. Laughing. ICONO=power and sexuality? crush is sexual? I dont think I want
to come to your house. rofl :)
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iconoclastic cat (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 09:48 PM
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82. That's just the copywriter in me talking.
I still think about branding. Even though I am now very anti-corporate.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Jul-16-04 12:20 AM
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114. Nothing wrong with thinking about branding.
It's memorable and clever. Far better for imbedding in the mind. My dad was a sales guy, and was very good at thinking up catchy slogans and buzz phrases and branding concepts. I hope I learned something from him.

It's ALWAYS good. Catchy phrases. Look at how well they succeed, and how memorable they are, how they stand the test of time. Think Johnnie Cochran ("if it doesn't fit, you must acquit" - whether you agree with it or not, you REMEMBER it!). Think Muhammed Ali - ("float like a butterfly, sting like a bee," and "rope-a-dope." DECADES OLD by now, but still memorable as though it were a half-hour ago. ALWAYS effective. Rhyming and/or alliteration is MOST useful. And a little sparkle of humor writes them into your brain with permanent tattoo ink.

I guess it's designed to play to the short-attention-span mentality, that loves quick-fixes, fun, stuff that's not too challenging/easy to grasp. Whatever. Like they say in radio contests - it's "the phrase that pays." Because it DOES.
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-16-04 12:25 AM
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115. CRUSH the corruption! ? CRUSH the cabal? crush em like cockroaches
you can tell I'm angry! not coming up with any humorous slogan (:
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-16-04 12:53 AM
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124. Got it" I Got A C.R.U.S.H. On You"to tune of the song & less threatening
what do you think of that

Citizens Restoring United States Honor

or Honesty
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-16-04 01:05 AM
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126. Got it."I Got A CRUSH On You"to tune of the song ? CRUSH
Citizens Restoring United States Honesty

Honor ----

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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 10:36 PM
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91. and
it's a great Dave Matthews tune ;)
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 03:53 PM
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9. Thanks Dem in NC, could you test URL's to old threads & if they work-
oops, I can't get them to work
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iconoclastic cat (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 04:07 PM
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12. your link is broken
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 04:17 PM
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16. ICONO - now I got it working - Ijust had to wait and click on url
after you click on du url it takes a while to come up,

unless you've found something different.....

We need BEAM ME UP to put in all of his pdf
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 05:05 PM
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25. Wont have time before tomorrow. It was KravenKitty (if I remember right)
who has been making the PDFs; I do the MSWord docs. What I have so far is here: http://www.aeschatech.com/dumpster

I'm at work with limited access at the moment.

BMU
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PfcHammer (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 06:37 PM
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41. PDF 7 is up now, too
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-16-04 08:35 AM
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158. Broken Link, Pallas...
can you supply the original article?
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-15-04 03:16 PM
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2. Holy smokes, TWO ways! Dearest Pallas - you utterly ROCK!
Edited on Thu Jul-15-04 03:33 PM by calimary
1) WHAT an absolutely STELLAR opening - comprehensive, user-friendly, informative.

2) I can't believe I'm getting in, this early!

BY THE WAY, GUYS:

I've noticed that, since I updated and posted the FIVE STAR ACTIVIST RESOURCE THREAD with all the contacts and stuff, the thread in GD has been archived and therefore locked. And yet, I've had more updates to add. SOOOOOOOO... I've also noticed that the duplicate thread in Activism/Events is still open. Therefore, in the event of any further updates, I will go there, first. I am up to Part Fifteen. Updates include Slim-fast contacts, Senate Intel Committee contacts, and a couple of guidelines/advisories for responding to those annoying pro-bush/anti-Clinton emails, AND - ADVICE FOR SENDING SAFE SNAIL MAIL, in case you're concerned that your paper letter will get lost in anthrax-fear hell.


Last update: July 9, 2004:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

(LAST UPDATE: JULY 15, 2004)
This is also available in the Activism/Events forum:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

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Wilber_Stool (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 03:22 PM
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5. A lighter note.
How many times have you been directed to a site with the assurance that it's the"funniest thing I have ever seen." "laughing my ass off" and thought, these people are so easily amused? Well, one more time. If you have a download manager, you can save it to disk. 6 mb.

http://www.claystreet.com/BushAds/Seriously.mpg

Trust me. Would I steer you wrong?
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 03:54 PM
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10. Whoopi got fired for dirty language, but Cheney didn't-Here's Slim Fast's
Edited on Thu Jul-15-04 03:54 PM by Pallas180
phone number.1-800-SLIM-FAST

Guess we know whose campaign they contribute to.
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 04:12 PM
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13. lol.
Revenge of the Soccer Moms!!!
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21. LOL That's beautiful!
Oh wow! Thanks :) I've already emailed it to five people! :toast:
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coeur_de_lion (927 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-16-04 06:11 PM
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192. real cute! n/t
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iconoclastic cat (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 04:16 PM
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15. Thanks to everyone for compiling these resources!
Thank you for working so hard! This is very inspiring and empowering.
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 04:25 PM
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18. Famous Quotations, Some will make your hair stand on end & refer to what
is going on now: New World Order

but for the time being, before I present the worst, think about this one:



"God told me to strike at al-Qaida and I struck them, and then He instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me, I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them."
~ G.W. Bush



I wonder who his God is?
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RebelYell (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 04:30 PM
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19. If he's hearing voices.....
.....he forgot to take his medication
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 04:31 PM
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20. Recent Quotations:



http://www.wealth4freedom.com/wns/famous_quotations.htm



"Yes, many people will die when the New World Order is established, but it will be a much better world for those who survive".
~ Henry Kissinger (War Criminal)
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"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."
~ David (name edited by me)
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"The drive of the (name edited) and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent."
~ Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets

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"We will export death and violence to the four corners of the earth in defense of our great nation."
~ George W. Bush
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"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier...just as long as I'm the dictator"
~ George W. Bush
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"There ought to be limits to freedom"
~ George W. Bush
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Wind Dancer (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 04:57 PM
Response to Reply #20
24. Yikes!
No denying these guys are serious!

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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-15-04 04:39 PM
Response to Original message
22. I got intimidated by the long thread - did anything happen yesterday?
Was there any July 14 revelation at all?
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 05:55 PM
Response to Reply #22
37. Here's what happened yesterday, Stephanie.
No indictments, but Congress is starting to rumble.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1521&e=...

Wonder if any letters from diligent Plame threaders spurred them to action? I hope they're listening!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-15-04 07:32 PM
Response to Reply #37
51. Thank you! So there was some action after all.
I was so sure there would be indictments yesterday that I had $10 riding on it! I really, really want my Frog March.

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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 08:40 PM
Response to Reply #51
66. H2O Man says Grand Jury was extended for 2 weeks.
So July 28 at the earliest, but probably August should be indictment time. I'd love to see a Frog March as a prelude to the Republican Convention!
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 04:55 PM
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23. THEORY OF THE WHY Valerie Plame Was Outed As CIA
Repeat from #7 - and all who have important posts that bring us up to date should re post them here on #8

A THEORY ON THE WHY - Plame -> Cheney->Halliburton

On my way home today, as I thought about the why the outing of Valerie Plame was necessary, I was so engrossed I drove 4 exits past my exit.

Here's what we know:

1) Valerie Plame was "active in a sting operation involving the trafficking of Weapons of Mass Destruction components"" when her identity was exposed by the White House. It also said" Only a high-ranking official could have had access to the knowledge" that Valerie Plame was a covert CIA agent.

2) Vice President Cheney since 1995 as CEO of Halliburton was fined 1.2 milion dollars for illegal sales of components to Libya which could be used for nuclear purposes. Shortly before becoming Vice President he bitterly assailed US policy against selling such components to Syrria and Iran, which apparently hurt Halliburton's bottom line.

3) There is an investigation of Vice President Cheney in other countries for illegal bribery and various other offenses connected to Halliburton as well as paying amounts to secret Swiss bank accounts

4)The Atomic Energy Commission has said a North American company is one of 20 being investigated for black market sales of WMD materials.

Here's the theory:

Valerie Plame was stopped in her tracks and the biggest treasonous taboo of revealing a CIA sting operation was done because she/it was coming close to discovering even more serious violations of the laws against trading nuclear materials with certain countries by our own Vice President and the Hallibuton company he has awarded billions of US taxpayer dollars to in non-bid contracts after he became VP.

Recently Libya was accused of having WMD components and the US threat
ened to invade unless Quaddaffi gave the WMD components to the US.
Bush 2 was seen on TV this week inspecting the cases of returned materials from Iraq triumphantly. The fact that Quaddafi received these illegal shipments of components from Cheney/Halliburton was not
mentioned in the victory video.

Dick Cheney, even after the Senate Intel Committee, The Atomic Commission and numerous other agencies have said no WMD exist in Iraq,
insists Iraq has WMD even in the last week.

Why? Because Dick Cheney knows he, through an offshore Halliburton company with a PO Box, at some time in the past sold Saddam Hussein WMD or components of WMD. In the same way "they" under Bush 1 adminstration sold Hussein lethal gas which he used, and then attacked him for using it saying he was a threat to the community.

Why do Cheney and Bush insist they must attack Syrria and Iran as the next step in making the world safe and that Syrria and Iran have
WMD? Cheney-Halliburton know that Syrria and Iran have WMD components because Cheney illegally sold the WMD components to Syrria and Iran.

Why did Bush Cheney know that North Korea had WMD and where did they gget the components?

Why were Pakistan and India able to test and develop nuclear weapons undetected by the CIA's "big eye in the sky" or any agency's seismic
discovery? And where did India and Pakistan purchase the components
for WMD which were illegal for any company to sell them?

What was Valerie Plame investigating?


good spooks vs the bad spooks in the FBI and CIA becomes very confusing to most, I think.



Not to add confusion to my "theory " above, but I also thought:

When Saudi Arabia asked Junior and Company to get out of Saudi Arabia
afer we had built a monstrous and expensive base armed with the newest weaponry - one might call it a home base -why would they do that, when they had wanted US to protect them and their oil fields for years???

The reason given for asking us to vacate was to calm the anti-American element. Hmmm. But if they needed our protection from that very element, WHY would they ask their protector to leave.
BECAUSE they "likely" also received WMD from certain parties.

So now, we can guess, the entire Middle East is armed with illegal components of WMD...supplied by whom?hmmm

And I agree with you ROBERTPAULSEN- it's a great racket. Supply them
with the components, collect payment. Shuttle back and forth between
private employment and government employment, selling WMD for your company's bottom line while a private CEO, earning large bonuses and
deferred "payment" plus increased stock option value, go back into government, create a war on those countries who have the WMD you have sold them, then you have created a situation where your company and the other companies you hold stock in, or which belong to your other associates, can supply the army with munitions, destroy the country you have sold WMD to, and then the very same companies who supplied the munitions for destruction, go in and rebuild the country.


So. Now how many times have you profiteered?
1) illegal selling of WMD
2) earn bonus, increase value of stock options
3) Supply Army Munitions on no bid contracts
4) Rebuild the country on no bid contracts

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Wind Dancer (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 05:07 PM
Response to Reply #23
26. We supply all the WMD to the ME
in order for them to destroy each other, then we come in and "help" the disadvantaged, profit tons of money and look like the knights in shining armor to the average person. With our history, it doesn't sound so crazy, does it?
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 05:11 PM
Response to Reply #26
28. DEM - we don't look so hot to the average person anymore.
but I think we're catching onto things we're really not supposed to
know.
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Wind Dancer (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 05:27 PM
Response to Reply #28
32. Agree, Pallas,
sometimes I wish I didn't know all of these things. It would be so much easier to believe our government was somewhat honest but one can't ignore history. I'm so thankful for John Dean, Joe Wilson, Sy Hearsh and the like, plus this great group here at DU desperately trying to make a difference.

I've been studying the assassination of JFK Jr for over 25 years now, scary we have many of the same players still in power.
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Jose Diablo (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 05:10 PM
Response to Reply #23
27. This would be a 'tectonic plate shift' in the beltway
if true and made public. Especially if the USA is attacked by those very weapons sold by Haliburton a la Cheney.
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 08:00 PM
Response to Reply #27
55. Is it Talking Points who mention "Tectonic Shift" ? we need to check
cause some weird things are acomin' out here.

There are some people who should be sent to Texas and given a seat in
his own electrified chair.

RobertPaulsen mentions Clark Clifford and BCCI. I remember now, did
he go to jail for involvement or get pardoned.

He was revered as an old statesman and when that criminality came out
people were absolutely astonished.

He must have been the fallguy for someone.

I dont remember or know much about it. Whose administration was it? Reagan's?

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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-15-04 09:08 PM
Response to Reply #55
73. CLARK CLIFFORD AND ROBERT ALTMAN
For twelve years, from BCCI's initial attempts to acquire FGB/First American in January, 1978, until their forced resignation in August, 1991 from their positions as the top officials of First American, former Secretary of Defense Clark Clifford and his law partner, Robert Altman, were the central figures in BCCI's acquisitions and management of U.S. banks.

During that time, they met with and represented BCCI's top management, major shareholders, major borrowers, and every figure of consequence who participated in BCCI's frauds in the United States. Their roles included:

** Representing Bert Lance in his sale of National Bank of Georgia (NBG) to BCCI nominee Ghaith Pharaon in 1977 and 1978.

** Representing Lance, BCCI, and all of the Arab shareholders in the Financial General Bankshares (FGB) takeover and all related litigation from late 1977 through late 1990.

(more)
<http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1992_rpt/bcci/13cliffor... >

Interesting stuff.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-15-04 09:25 PM
Response to Reply #73
78. Here is an interesting page
Edited on Thu Jul-15-04 09:27 PM by shraby
I googled Agha Hasan Abedi and found this on. Click on George W. Bush and you'll find a graph that will boggle your mind.

<http://www.namebase.org/main1/Agha-Hasan-Abedi.html >

I tried to go back to the George W. Bush page and need to get a password, but the first time I went there the page came right up.
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 10:32 PM
Response to Reply #78
90. SHRABY - you mean this graph?
Edited on Thu Jul-15-04 10:35 PM by Pallas180




http://www.namebase.org/cgi-bin/nb06?BUSH_GEORGE_W

oops - that's the site, but the second time it also asked me to register.

Ok, let's all register as Devon Underwood. :)

Most amazing - Bush, Bath, and Harken names in the middle and then
lines out to all their connections by name.

Schraby, I didn't get if that was over a background of the world or
what ?

Notice the name Bath. The same name dimson scratched off his Guard
service records. hmmmmmm
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-15-04 10:37 PM
Response to Reply #90
92. Yup. Thats it
looks like all the major players.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-15-04 11:00 PM
Response to Reply #92
97. Here is the list at the bottom
Not sure what the numbers in parenthesis is after the references.

ADGER SIDNEY A

Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (196)
San Antonio Express-News 1999-09-08 (5)
ADHAM KAMAL

Bainerman,J. The Crimes of a President. 1992 (294)
Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (51)
Wall Street Journal 1991-12-06 (1 4)
ALEXANDER ANTHONY

Newsweek 2000-01-24 (48-49)
AMEEN MICHAEL

Bainerman,J. The Crimes of a President. 1992 (294 296)
Covert Action Information Bulletin 1992-#41 (51)
San Antonio Express-News 1999-07-11 (3)
Texas Observer 1991-07-12 (15)
Texas Observer 1991-09-20 (17)
Truell,P. Gurwin,L. False Profits. 1992 (370)
Wall Street Journal 1991-12-06 (4)
ARBUSTO ENERGY INC

Beaty,J. Gwynne,S.C. The Outlaw Bank. 1993 (229)
Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (46-48)
Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (197-199)
San Antonio Express-News 1999-07-11 (3)
ATLANTIC AVIATION

Brewton,P. The Mafia, CIA, and George Bush. 1992 (218-219)
BAKER JAMES A III

Beaty,J. Gwynne,S.C. The Outlaw Bank. 1993 (229)
Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (54-55)
Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (198)
BAKHSH ABDULLAH TAHA

Bainerman,J. The Crimes of a President. 1992 (294 296)
Covert Action Information Bulletin 1992-#41 (51)
Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (51)
Mother Jones 1992-10 (66)
Texas Observer 1991-07-12 (12-13)
Truell,P. Gurwin,L. False Profits. 1992 (370)
Wall Street Journal 1991-12-06 (1 4)
BANK CREDIT COMMERCE INTERNATIONAL

Bainerman,J. The Crimes of a President. 1992 (294-296)
Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (46 48 50-51)
New York Times Book Review 2004-04-18 (11)
Stich,R. Defrauding America. 1994 (407)
BARNES BEN F

Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (196)
San Antonio Express-News 1999-09-08 (5)
BASS FAMILY

Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (48-49 52 55)
BASS LEE MARSHALL

Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (55)
Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (202)
Texas Observer 1991-07-12 (13)
BASS ROBERT MUSE

Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (202)
Mother Jones 1992-10 (66)
Texas Observer 1991-04-05 (16)
BASS SID RICHARDSON

Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (202)
Texas Observer 1991-07-12 (13)
BATH JAMES R

Bainerman,J. The Crimes of a President. 1992 (295-296)
Beaty,J. Gwynne,S.C. The Outlaw Bank. 1993 (227-229)
Brewton,P. The Mafia, CIA, and George Bush. 1992 (218-219)
Covert Action Information Bulletin 1992-#41 (51-52)
Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (50-51)
Truell,P. Gurwin,L. False Profits. 1992 (369)
Wall Street Journal 1991-12-06 (4)
BEEBE HERMAN K SR

Texas Observer 1991-04-05 (16-17)
BENTSEN LLOYD III

Beaty,J. Gwynne,S.C. The Outlaw Bank. 1993 (227)
Brewton,P. The Mafia, CIA, and George Bush. 1992 (219)
BERNSTEIN TOM (ROLAND BETTS PARTNER)

Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (51-52)
BETTS ROLAND W

Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (51-52 55)
San Antonio Express-News 1999-07-11 (3)
BIN MAHFOUZ KHALID

Bainerman,J. The Crimes of a President. 1992 (295)
Beaty,J. Gwynne,S.C. The Outlaw Bank. 1993 (228-229)
Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (51)
Truell,P. Gurwin,L. False Profits. 1992 (369)
Wall Street Journal 1991-12-06 (1 4)
BREEDEN RICHARD C

Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (50)
Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (202-203)
BREWTON PETE

Texas Observer 1991-04-05 (16-17)
BROWN BOBBY (DR)

Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (205)
San Antonio Express-News 1999-07-11 (3)
BUSH GEORGE H.W.

Beaty,J. Gwynne,S.C. The Outlaw Bank. 1993 (228)
Covert Action Quarterly 2002-#74 (2)
Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (55)
New York Times Book Review 2004-04-18 (11)
San Antonio Express-News 1999-09-08 (5)
Truell,P. Gurwin,L. False Profits. 1992 (368)
BUSH JOHN E (JEB)

Mother Jones 1992-10 (33)
Truell,P. Gurwin,L. False Profits. 1992 (368)
Wall Street Journal 1991-12-06 (4)
BUSH JONATHAN (UNCLE OF GEORGE W. BUSH)

Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (47)
Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (197-198)
San Antonio Express-News 1999-07-11 (1 3)
BUSH NEIL MALLON

Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (55)
Mother Jones 1992-10 (68)
Tarpley,W.G. Chaitkin,A. George Bush. 1992 (372-373)
Texas Observer 1991-04-05 (16)
Wall Street Journal 1991-12-06 (4)
BUSH PRESCOTT JR

Covert Action Information Bulletin 1992-#41 (52)
Wall Street Journal 1991-12-06 (4)
CARLUCCI FRANK CHARLES

Covert Action Quarterly 2002-#74 (2)
Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (54)
CARLYLE GROUP

Covert Action Quarterly 2002-#74 (2)
Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (54)
New York Times Book Review 2004-04-18 (11)
CHENEY RICHARD B

Huffington,A. Pigs at the Trough. 2003 (59-60)
CHILES H EDDIE

Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (51-52)
Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (204-205)
San Antonio Express-News 1999-07-11 (1 3)
CONNALLY JOHN BOWDEN (B.1917-02-27)

Bainerman,J. The Crimes of a President. 1992 (295)
Beaty,J. Gwynne,S.C. The Outlaw Bank. 1993 (228-229)
Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (51)
DARMAN RICHARD GORDON

Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (54)
Washington Post 1988-12-05 (21)
DEWITT WILLIAM O JR

Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (47 51 55)
Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (199 204-205)
Mother Jones 1992-10 (67)
San Antonio Express-News 1999-07-11 (3)
DOTY JAMES R

Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (50)
Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (203)
DRAPER WILLIAM H III

Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (197-198)
EDWARDS DAVID (CITIBANK)

Covert Action Information Bulletin 1992-#41 (51)
Texas Observer 1991-07-12 (15)
Texas Observer 1991-09-20 (17)
EDWARDS MICHAEL (STEPHENS INC)

Covert Action Information Bulletin 1992-#41 (51)
Texas Observer 1991-07-12 (15)
EISENSON MICHAEL

Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (200 204)
ENRON CORPORATION

Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (50 55)
EVANS DONALD L

Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (209)
Newsweek 2000-01-24 (46 48)
FAULKNER MIKEL D

Texas Observer 1991-07-12 (12-14)
FIRSTENERGY CORPORATION (OHIO)

Newsweek 2000-01-24 (48-49)
GOOD KENNETH M

Texas Observer 1991-04-05 (16)
Wall Street Journal 1991-12-06 (4)
HALLIBURTON COMPANY

Huffington,A. Pigs at the Trough. 2003 (59-60)
HAMMOUD MOHAMMED MAHMOUD

Bainerman,J. The Crimes of a President. 1992 (294)
Truell,P. Gurwin,L. False Profits. 1992 (370)
Wall Street Journal 1991-12-06 (4)
HARKEN ENERGY CORPORATION

Bainerman,J. The Crimes of a President. 1992 (294-296)
Beaty,J. Gwynne,S.C. The Outlaw Bank. 1993 (229)
Covert Action Information Bulletin 1992-#41 (50-52)
Covert Action Quarterly 2002-#74 (2)
Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (46-52)
Huffington,A. Pigs at the Trough. 2003 (59)
Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (194-196 199-202)
Mother Jones 1992-10 (33 66-68)
New York Times Book Review 2004-04-18 (11)
San Antonio Express-News 1999-07-11 (3)
Stich,R. Defrauding America. 1994 (407)
Texas Observer 1991-04-05 (16-17)
Texas Observer 1991-07-12 (12-15)
Texas Observer 1991-09-20 (11 17)
Truell,P. Gurwin,L. False Profits. 1992 (369-370)
Wall Street Journal 1991-12-06 (1 4)
HARTMANN ALFRED

Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (50-51)
HARVARD MANAGEMENT COMPANY INC

Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (48)
Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (200-202 204 212)
HENNESSY JOHN (CREDIT SUISSE FIRST BOSTON)

Newsweek 2000-01-24 (46 48)
HICKS MUSE TATE FURST (TEXAS FIRM)

Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (53-54)
HICKS THOMAS O

Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (46 53-54)
Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (208 211-212)
San Antonio Express-News 1999-07-11 (3)
HINCKLEY JOHN W JR

Tarpley,W.G. Chaitkin,A. George Bush. 1992 (372-373)
HINCKLEY SCOTT

Tarpley,W.G. Chaitkin,A. George Bush. 1992 (372-373)
HOSTLER CHARLES WARREN

Bainerman,J. The Crimes of a President. 1992 (294)
Covert Action Information Bulletin 1992-#41 (51)
Truell,P. Gurwin,L. False Profits. 1992 (370)
Wall Street Journal 1991-12-06 (4)
HOWARD JOHN (TEXAS)

Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (213-214)
KENDRICK PHIL

Bainerman,J. The Crimes of a President. 1992 (295)
Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (48)
Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (200)
Texas Observer 1991-09-20 (11)
KENNEDY JAMES (DU PONT COMPANY)

Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (213-214)
KHALIFA KHALIFA BIN-SULMAN AL- SHEIK

Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (51)
Truell,P. Gurwin,L. False Profits. 1992 (370)
Wall Street Journal 1991-12-06 (4)
KUHN THOMAS R

Newsweek 2000-01-24 (46-47)
LANCE BERT

Bainerman,J. The Crimes of a President. 1992 (294)
Stich,R. Defrauding America. 1994 (407)
LAY KENNETH LEE

Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (55)
Newsweek 2000-01-24 (48)
MACOMBER JOHN DEWITT

Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (197-198)
MAIN BANK HOUSTON

Beaty,J. Gwynne,S.C. The Outlaw Bank. 1993 (228-229)
Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (51)
MAY ELIZA

Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (216-217)
MCENTEE GERALD W

Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (41-42)
NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION

Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (81 83)
NUGAN HAND BANK

Texas Observer 1991-07-12 (13-14)
OHRSTROM FAMILY

Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (48-49)
OHRSTROM GEORGE L JR

Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (48)
Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (198)
OTHMAN TALAT M

Covert Action Information Bulletin 1992-#41 (52)
Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (51)
Mother Jones 1992-10 (66)
Texas Observer 1991-07-12 (13 15)
Truell,P. Gurwin,L. False Profits. 1992 (370)
Wall Street Journal 1991-12-06 (1 4)
PHARAON GHAITH RASHAD

Bainerman,J. The Crimes of a President. 1992 (295)
Beaty,J. Gwynne,S.C. The Outlaw Bank. 1993 (228-229)
Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (51)
Mother Jones 1992-10 (66)
Stich,R. Defrauding America. 1994 (407)
PRECHTER HEINZ C

Newsweek 2000-01-24 (46-48)
QUANTUM FUND

Covert Action Quarterly 2002-#74 (2)
Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (48)
QUASHA ALAN GRANT

Bainerman,J. The Crimes of a President. 1992 (295)
Covert Action Information Bulletin 1992-#41 (52)
Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (48)
Mother Jones 1992-10 (33)
Texas Observer 1991-07-12 (13-15)
Wall Street Journal 1991-12-06 (4)
QUASHA WILLIAM HOWARD

Covert Action Information Bulletin 1992-#41 (52)
Texas Observer 1991-07-12 (13)
RAINWATER RICHARD EDWARD

Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (46 52-53 55)
Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (205 208-211)
San Antonio Express-News 1999-07-11 (1 3)
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Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (55)
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Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (198-199)
San Antonio Express-News 1999-07-11 (3)
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Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (205)
San Antonio Express-News 1999-07-11 (3)
RUPERT ANTON

Texas Observer 1991-07-12 (12-14)
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Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (206-208)
San Antonio Express-News 1999-07-11 (1 3)
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Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (216-217)
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San Antonio Express-News 1999-07-11 (3)
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Covert Action Quarterly 2002-#74 (2)
Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (46 48)
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Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (47-48)
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Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (200-201)
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Bainerman,J. The Crimes of a President. 1992 (294)
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Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (51)
Mother Jones 1992-10 (66)
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Wall Street Journal 1991-12-06 (4)
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Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (48)
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Lewis,C. The Buying of the President 2000. 2000 (195)
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Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (51-52)
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Covert Action Information Bulletin 1992-#41 (51)
Mother Jones 1992-10 (66)
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Wall Street Journal 1991-12-06 (4)
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Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (46 48)
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Executive Intelligence Review 2000-02-25 (47-48)
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HARKEN ENERGY CORPORATION 42 BATH JAMES R 13 RAINWATER RICHARD EDWARD 11 BAKHSH ABDULLAH TAHA 10 BANK CREDIT COMMERCE INTERNATIONAL 9 AMEEN MICHAEL 8 ARBUSTO ENERGY INC 8 DEWITT WILLIAM O JR 8 OTHMAN TALAT M 8 QUASHA ALAN GRANT 8 BIN MAHFOUZ KHALID 7 HICKS THOMAS O 7 BUSH GEORGE H.W. 6 BUSH NEIL MALLON 6 CHILES H EDDIE 6 HARVARD MANAGEMENT COMPANY INC 6 PHARAON GHAITH RASHAD 6 STEPHENS JACKSON THOMAS 6 BUSH JONATHAN (UNCLE OF GEORGE W. BUSH) 5 SCHIEFFER J THOMAS 5 UEBERROTH PETER V 5 UNION BANK SWITZERLAND 5 UNIVERSITY TEXAS 5 UZIELLI PHILIP A 5 ADHAM KAMAL 4 BAKER JAMES A III 4 BASS FAMILY 4 BETTS ROLAND W 4 CONNALLY JOHN BOWDEN (B.1917-02-27) 4 HOSTLER CHARLES WARREN 4 KENDRICK PHIL 4 SOROS GEORGE 4 SPECTRUM 7 ENERGY CORPORATION 4 WATSON E STUART 4 WHITE CHARLES W (BILL) 4 BASS LEE MARSHALL 3 BASS ROBERT MUSE 3 BREEDEN RICHARD C 3 BUSH JOHN E (JEB) 3 CARLYLE GROUP 3 EDWARDS DAVID (CITIBANK) 3 EVANS DONALD L 3 FAULKNER MIKEL D 3 HAMMOUD MOHAMMED MAHMOUD 3 KHALIFA KHALIFA BIN-SULMAN AL- SHEIK 3 MAIN BANK HOUSTON 3 PRECHTER HEINZ C 3 REYNOLDS MERCER III 3 REYNOLDS RUSSELL S JR 3 RUPERT ANTON 3 STONE ROBERT JR 3 SWETNAM MONTE N 3 ADGER SIDNEY A 2 ALEXANDER ANTHONY 2 ATLANTIC AVIATION 2 BARNES BEN F 2 BASS SID RICHARDSON 2 BEEBE HERMAN K SR 2 BENTSEN LLOYD III 2 BERNSTEIN TOM (ROLAND BETTS PARTNER) 2 BREWTON PETE 2 BROWN BOBBY (DR) 2 BUSH PRESCOTT JR 2 CARLUCCI FRANK CHARLES 2 CHENEY RICHARD B 2 DARMAN RICHARD GORDON 2 DOTY JAMES R 2 DRAPER WILLIAM H III 2 EDWARDS MICHAEL (STEPHENS INC) 2 EISENSON MICHAEL 2 ENRON CORPORATION 2 FIRSTENERGY CORPORATION (OHIO) 2 GOOD KENNETH M 2 HALLIBURTON COMPANY 2 HARTMANN ALFRED 2 HENNESSY JOHN (CREDIT SUISSE FIRST BOSTON) 2 HICKS MUSE TATE FURST (TEXAS FIRM) 2 HINCKLEY JOHN W JR 2 HINCKLEY JOHN W SR 2 HINCKLEY SCOTT 2 HOWARD JOHN (TEXAS) 2 KENNEDY JAMES (DU PONT COMPANY) 2 KUHN THOMAS R 2 LANCE BERT 2 LAY KENNETH LEE 2 MACOMBER JOHN DEWITT 2 MAY ELIZA 2 MCENTEE GERALD W 2 NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION 2 NUGAN HAND BANK 2 OHRSTROM FAMILY 2 OHRSTROM GEORGE L JR 2 OHRSTROM GEORGE L SR 2 QUANTUM FUND 2 QUASHA WILLIAM HOWARD 2 ROSE EDWARD W III (RUSTY) 2 SERVICE CORPORATION INTERNATIONAL 2 SHIRAWI YOUSUF A 2 SPERLING SCOTT 2 STARNES E TRINE 2 STEPHENS INC 2 TEELEY PETER B 2 UNTERMEYER CHASE G (CHARLES) 2 WALTRIP ROBERT LYNN 2 WEBBER FREDERICK (CMA) 2 WYLY CHARLES J 2 WYLY SAM 2 ABEDI AGHA HASAN 1 ALEXANDER JAMES DOUGLAS 1 ALLBAUGH JOE M JR 1 ALLEN JOE (HOUSTON LAWYER) 1 AMERICAN FEDERATION STATE COUNTY MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES 1 APEX ENERGY 1 ARMORED RESPONSE GROUP U.S. 1 ATWATER LEE 1 BAKER BOTTS (HOUSTON LAW FIRM) 1 BARR ROBERT L JR (R-GA) 1 BARTLETT DAN 1 BASS EDWARD PERRY 1 BASS ENTERPRISES 1 BASS PERRY RICHARDSON 1 BATES DAVID Q 1 BAZARIAN CHARLES 1 BECHTEL CORPORATION 1 BECKER JEAN 1 BEECHERL LOUIS ARTHUR JR 1 BEGHINI VIC 1 BELLAMAH COMPANY 1 BERMAN WAYNE L 1 BLOOMBERG MICHAEL RUBENS 1 BRADBURY CURT 1 BRADY NICHOLAS F 1 BRYANT HERBERT (J.C. HERBERT JR) 1 BRYANT MAGALEN OHRSTROM 1 BUSH EXPLORATION 1 BUSH FREDERICK M 1 BUSH MARVIN PIERCE 1 BUSH PRESCOTT SHELDON 1 BUSH WILLIAM (BROTHER OF GEORGE H.W.) 1 CAMERON DORT III 1 CARD ANDREW H JR 1 CARLISLE COMPANIES 1 CARTER PHILLIP N (SIDNEY MT) 1 CAVENEY RED 1 CENTRUST SAVINGS BANK 1 CHECCHI ALFRED A 1 CISNEROS GUSTAVO A 1 CLINE RAY STEINER 1 COLLINS HERBERT F 1 CONAWAY K MICHAEL 1 CONDRAY ANSEL 1 CORSON ROBERT L 1 CRAIG LARRY E (R-ID) 1 CRESCENT REAL ESTATE EQUITIES 1 DALAI LAMA (TENZIN GYATSO) 1 DARWAISH ABDULLAH 1 DIAZ MANUEL C (MANNY) 1 DIXON DON R 1 DU PONT EDWARD BRADFORD 1 DUNCAN ROBERT (TEXAS) 1 DUQUE ALBERTO 1 EISENBERG CALVIN 1 ELLISON LAWRENCE JOSEPH 1 ENGLER JOHN (GOV) 1 FLEISCHER ARI 1 FREEMAN BRADFORD M 1 FREEMAN LAWRENCE A (MIAMI) 1 GERTH JEFF 1 GETZ H LELAND 1 GLOBAL ENVIRONMENTAL TECHNOLOGY FOUNDATION 1 GOFF JOHN C 1 GOLDSMITH STEPHEN 1 GORBACHEV MIKHAIL S 1 GRAMM PHIL (R-TX) 1 GRAY ROBERT KEITH 1 GREEN SHIRLEY M 1 GREENE RICHARD (ARLINGTON TX) 1 GREGORY WILFRED P 1 HADDOCK GERALD 1 HALPER STEFAN A 1 HAMMONDS TOM 1 HARVEY TOM (NSC) 1 HERSKOWITZ MICKEY 1 HICKS R STEVEN 1 HILER BRUCE A 1 HINZ DARBY 1 HORCHOW ROGER 1 HORNER CONSTANCE J 1 HUCKABY STAN 1 HUGHES KAREN P 1 HUGHES KENNETH (TEXAS) 1 HUNT RAY LEE 1 HUSSEIN SADDAM 1 HUTCHINSON ASA 1 HUXTABLE MIKE 1 INMAN BOBBY RAY 1 INTERNATIONAL CRISIS GROUP 1 JOHNSON ROBERT WOOD IV 1 JORDAN ROBERT W 1 JOSEPH FREDERICK H 1 KANTER BURTON WALLACE 1 KASS STEPHEN L 1 KEATING CHARLES H JR 1 KEATING FRANK (GOV) 1 KELLY THOMAS W (GEN) 1 KENNY JANE 1 KRALJ NICK 1 KRAVIS HENRY R 1 LA PIERRE WAYNE R JR 1 LAKE RESOURCES 1 LATHAM DONALD C 1 LITTWIN LAWRENCE 1 LOEB NACKEY SCRIPPS 1 LOEB WILLIAM 1 LOTT TRENT (R-MS) 1 MAHATHIR MOHAMAD 1 MARINIS THOMAS 1 MARQUEZ RALPH 1 MATALIN MARY 1 MCCAIN JOHN S III (R-AZ) 1 MCCLELLAN SCOTT 1 MCLEAN HARVEY D JR 1 MCLUCAS WILLIAM R 1 METCALF LEO 1 MILKEN MICHAEL ROBERT 1 MILLER WILLIAM D (TEXAS LAWYER) 1 MIZEL LARRY 1 MOSBACHER ROBERT ADAM 1 MOSER THOMAS L 1 MULLIGAN HARRY L 1 NELSON TERRY (FBI) 1 NICHOLS JOHN PHILIP 1 NICHOLSON JAMES (RNC) 1 OPEN SOCIETY FUND 1 OPEN SOCIETY INSTITUTE 1 PAHLAVI REZA (SON OF SHAH) 1 PALMER NATIONAL BANK 1 PAUL DAVID L 1 PEROT ROSS JR 1 PHELAN WESLEY 1 POPPER KARL 1 POWELL CASEY 1 RACICOT MARC 1 RADIO FREE EUROPE 1 RADIO LIBERTY 1 RANSTROM DONALD 1 RAPPAPORT BRUCE 1 REA PAUL 1 RECAREY MIGUEL JR 1 REEDER G WAYNE 1 REILLY MIKE 1 RENDA MARIO 1 RICHARDS ANN (TEXAS GOV) 1 RIDGE TOM 1 ROBBIO PETER 1 ROGERS EDWARD M JR 1 ROGERS JOHNNIE B JR 1 ROGERS WILLIAM DILL 1 ROSE JAMES (GEN) 1 ROSENBLATT WILLIAM 1 ROSSMILLER RICHARD 1 ROVE KARL C 1 SAKHIA ABDUR RAZZAK 1 SANCHEZ A.R. (TONY) 1 SKULL BONES 1 SKYWAYS AIRCRAFT LEASING 1 SMITH RALPH (SUTRO COMPANY) 1 STEPHENS MARY ANNE 1 STONE GALEN L 1 SUNG BING 1 SUNUNU JOHN H 1 TATUM GENE (CHIP) 1 TEETER ROBERT M 1 TEPPERMAN JONATHAN D 1 TERPELUCK PETER 1 THOMAS EVAN W III 1 TRAIN JOHN 1 TROTTER JOHN TILLMAN 1 TUTTLE JERRY O (ADM) 1 TUTWILER MARGARET D 1 UNGER CRAIG 1 UNITED STATES INSTITUTE PEACE 1 VANDERBILT ENERGY CORPORATION 1 VON RAAB WILLIAM 1 WALTERS JOHN P 1 WALTERS WILLIAM L 1 WHEATON M GENE 1 WHITLAM GOUGH 1 WHITMIRE JOHN (HOUSTON TX) 1 WILSON MARGARET (TEXAS) 1 WORTHEN NATIONAL BANK 1 WRAY JAMES 1




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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-15-04 11:02 PM
Response to Reply #97
98. Here are the names off the chart
Adger S.
Adham K.
Alexander A.
Ameen M.
Arbusto E.
Atlantic A.
Baker J.
Bakhsh A.
Bank C.
Barnes B.
Bass F.
Bass L.
Bass R.
Bass S.
Bath J.
Beebe H.
Bentsen L.
Bernstein T.
Betts R.
Bin Mahfouz K.
Breeden R.
Brewton P.
Brown B.
Bush G.
Bush G.
Bush J.
Bush J.
Bush N.
Bush P.
Carlucci F.
Carlyle G.
Cheney R.
Chiles H.
Connally J.
Darman R.
Dewitt W.
Doty J.
Draper W.
Edwards D.
Edwards M.
Eisenson M.
Enron C.
Evans D.
Faulkner M.
Firstenergy C.
Good K.
Halliburton C.
Hammoud M.
Harken E.
Hartmann A.
Hennessy J.
Hicks M.
Hicks T.
Hinckley J.
Hinckley S.
Hostler C.
Howard J.
Kennedy J.
Khalifa K.
Kuhn T.
Lance B.
Lay K.
Macomber J.
Main B.
May E.
McEntee G.
National R.
Nugan H.
Ohrstrom F.
Ohrstrom G.
Othman T.
Pharaon G.
Prechter H.
Quantum F.
Quasha A.
Quasha W.
Rainwater R.
Reynolds M.
Reynolds R.
Rose E.
Rupert A.
Schieffer J.
Service C.
Shirawi Y.
Soros G.
Spectrum 7
Sperling S.
Stephens J.
Stone R.
Swetnam M.
Ueberroth P.
Union B.
University T.
Uzielli P.
Watson E.
White C.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Jul-16-04 12:31 AM
Response to Reply #98
118. Man - SIX bushes. Funny how that name appears in the list more often
Edited on Fri Jul-16-04 12:33 AM by calimary
than any other. Funny how that name keeps coming up again and again, over the years, in connection to all kinds of funky stuff...

Oh wait, not six. SEVEN. Counting the Spectrum 7 reference. Funkier and funkier...
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-16-04 12:48 AM
Response to Reply #98
123. Did you catch Hinckley on that list? remember what I said on #7
john hinckley was to dinner at pappy's house, friend of Marvin or Neil
I forget which, the week he shot Reagan?
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Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-15-04 11:13 PM
Response to Reply #97
99. I just found the answer about Keating & McVeigh I asked on #7
Governor Frank Keating former FBI investigated the Oklahoma
bombing.He's listed on the graph of business contacts with pappy.

That's why we never found out that McVeigh and Nichols had ties
to Al Queda.

Makes you wonder if they thought that was the event which would make
all da iddy biddy people beg for martial law to be safe. And when that
didn't work went for a bigger one.

Wow. One week ago, I would have said anybody who thought that way
was off the wall.
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-16-04 01:12 AM
Response to Reply #92
129. Everyone should DOWNLOAD THIS MAP and save it to their HD
And I mean everyone in the country. Just drag and drop it to your desk top. From there, if you want, you can email it out as an attachment to everyone you know.

You never know when something like this may come in handy.

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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-16-04 01:23 AM
Response to Reply #92
133. EVERYONE: DOWN LOAD THIS IMAGE TO YOUR H/D
Just drag and drop it to your desk top. The more copies of this that exist for people to look at, the SAFER we will all be. You can show it to anyone -- you can even send it as an email attachment. Every recipient will then have a copy, too. You could even print it out and leave it at the laudromat.

Evidence, that is all it is, evidence put into the public domain. How one uses it, if at all, depends on ones resources and initiative.

You never know when something like this may come in handy.

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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-16-04 01:41 AM
Response to Reply #133
137. Technical difficulties making me
error messages, double posting and being told it didn't post at all, broken link :crazy:


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