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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 11:51 PM
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Blame the Cheney/Wolfie Office of Special Plans, NOT the CIA...
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 12:23 AM by TruthIsAll
Come on, you mediaslimes, you traitors. Does DU have to educate the masses and do your job every time you arrogant, mindless bush-licking bastards refuse to state the TRUTH when it stares you right in the face?

You mediawhores just can't stop your shameless dance of deceipt..

Come on Clark, come on Dean, come on Kerry, call them on this shit! Say it! For once and for all!

BUSH
LIED

OUR
SOLDIERS ...AND OUR WTC WORKERS...AND THE IRAQI CHILDREN..AND..
DIED




.....................
The Office of Special Plans, the Niger Uranium Fraud and Neocon ...
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Guardian Unlimited | Special reports | Iraqi defectors' weapons ...
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 11:58 PM
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1. From your keyboard to God's ears
I haven't heard any of the so called experts or so called journalists even mention the Office of Special Plans. It's lost down the memory hole.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:42 AM
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8. YOU HAVEN'T HEARD IT BECAUSE....
that would make Bush and Cheney look real bad....no way the media is going to ever get on this...NO WAY!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:04 PM
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23. here is a link that is also a MUST READ...
so so many execellent links at this very well researched site!

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/wot/iraq/office_of_special_plans.html

Office_of_Special_Plans

“They were a pretty shadowy presence. Normally when you compile an intelligence document, all the agencies get together to discuss it. The OSP was never present at any of the meetings I attended.” - Gregory Thielmann, a senior official in the state department's intelligence

"That office was charged with collecting, vetting and disseminating intelligence completely outside of the normal intelligence apparatus. In fact, it appears that information collected by this office was in some instances not even shared with established intelligence agencies and in numerous instances was passed on to the national security council and the president without having been vetted with anyone other than political appointees"- Democratic congressman David Obey

Summary:

Soon after September 11, a small intelligence office was created by the Pentagon to assess the threat that Iraq allegedly posed to the U.S. It remained relatively secret during the first year of its existence, known only by Donald Rumsfeld's inner circle of neoconservative ideologues. Sources within the intelligence community told reporters that the group, known as the Office of Special Plans, cherry-picked intelligence from questionable sources to support the case for invading Iraq. The intelligence team's conclusions were presented directly to the White House and National Security Agency without first being vetted by other intelligence agencies, like the CIA and the Defense Intelligence Agency. The office was also blamed for the administration's lack of post-war plans in Iraq and accused of undermining the administration's policy towards Iran.

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:10 AM
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2. nice list- bookmarked your post.
i don`t think the cia and other spy types are very happy with these guys. it`s going to be interesting what happens the rest of this year..
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:29 AM
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3. A wealth of information. Thanks TIA. (eom)
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Zo Zig Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:37 AM
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4. Nice, Add
THE STOVEPIPE
by SEYMOUR M. HERSH
How conflicts between the Bush Administration and the intelligence community marred the reporting on Iraq’s weapons.
Issue of 2003-10-27
Posted 2003-10-20
http://newyorker.com/printable/?fact/031027fa_fact
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:22 AM
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5. SCREAM THIS from the ROOFTOPS...send this list to ALL in Congress &
everyone in the media whether they will ignore it or not just keep sending it!

TIA nice job!!!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:38 AM
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6. keeping this kick
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:38 AM
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7. as I watched Michael Isikoff (Newsweek) this morning on C-span....
I wanted to throw my shoe at the TV!!!!! It is because we HAVE NO FREE MEDIA in this country and because of whores like him that tap dance around the truth. He LIED, They LIED!!! That dimbo* gets away with this shit is because of THEM! I kept wondering WHAT ABOUT OSP?!? IT is right there for any MORAN to see!!!!!
Thanks again for the great post TIA.... it should be sent to ALL media whores....

:grr: :grr: :grr:
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:43 AM
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9. I had the same feeling....
watching that crap this morning...Issikoff had no problems making shit up about Clinton for 8 years and cannot even tell us the truth about Bush and his thugs.....I hate the so-called liberal media.
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:51 AM
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14. YES!
The last call was this conservative pro-life woman who said her world has been rocked by this.

She was on the phone with her sisters who confronted her, asking if she would tolerate this type of behavior from a democrat administration.

She was near tears at the scope of the Bush deception.

If this country ever wakes up en masse, there will be hell to pay for this admin.

In a sick way, one can understand why they are working so hard to cover their butts. The magnitude of their mendacity is HUGE!
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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 10:15 AM
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30. If the media won't report it, make flyers and get the word out in your
neighborhoods. There is more than one way to get the truth out. Before there was TV, there was paper and pen.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:54 AM
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10. Kay has the Bushbots scrambling.
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 09:54 AM by yellowcanine
Kay's call for an investigation -even though he doesn't go far enough and include the Bush admin handling of the intelligence-really has blindsided the Bushbots. They will try to obfuscate and drag this out until late summer and then agree to an investigation, knowing that results will not come out before the election. However, I think they may be close to losing control of the timetable on this one. It is difficult to make the case against an investigation if the intelligence was so clearly wrong - people won't understand why Bush wouldn't want to find out what went wrong so corrections could be made - it goes to the heart of the fight against terrorism. I am enjoying watching the Bushbots squirm. Couldn't happen to a more deserving group.
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Petrodollar Warfare Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 10:46 AM
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11. Link with organizational chart of the "cabal"/OSP
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 10:47 AM by GoreN4
The Feb 2004 issue of Mother Jones magazine is an excellent source on the OSP and the unnamed "cell" set up by Rumsfeld. I incorporated this information and including a simplified org chart ("The Lie Factory") in my essay about Iraq. Just scroll down slightly from the below link and you'll get a concise org chart and an appreciation of how 19 men (including the President) brought the people "to the bidding of the leaders"...

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/RRiraqWar.html#p4
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:20 AM
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12. Nice work, TruthIsAll!
Here are a couple more general OSP/Selective intelligence links to the neo-conservative dominated PNAC traitors that have tried calling all the shots so miserably.
OSP by Seymour Hersh
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?030512fa_fact

Pentagon muzzles the CIA
http://www.prospect.org/print/V13/22/dreyfuss-r.html
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:47 AM
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13. Great work! Thanks
This puts the blame where it belongs.
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 08:31 PM
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16. I didn't know that Elsewhere's Daughter posted on this...
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 08:47 PM by TruthIsAll
so help me....
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:35 PM
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20. TIA ..everyone should post this as many times as possible...kick
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:52 AM
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15. 1 (800) 839 - 5276 - TOLL FREE to Capitol Hill! Call 'em on this!
I just called Carl Levin's office AND Ted Kennedy's office.

First of all, now that they're starting to live into their spinal transplants, they need further encouragement. I called 'em both, using this TOLL FREE NUMBER (they'll transfer you, free, to anybody's office in the House and/or Senate), and told them they were great questioning Kay yesterday, and told 'em to keep it up. AND, I mentioned the Office of Special Plans, and told them we don't hear enough about how - yeah, it was the intelligence alright. IT WAS THE INTELLIGENCE THAT THE OSP CHERRY-PICKED IN ORDER TO PHONY UP A JUSTIFICATION FOR WAR!!! I told 'em to get on it and not to lose hope and to stay strong.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 09:24 PM
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17. Kick
eom
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 07:36 PM
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18. Kick for Wilson and Plame
...
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:12 PM
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19. Can't kick hard enough for Wilson/Plame
:kick:
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 01:38 PM
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21. Thank you!
I will be sending this far and wide! :kick:

Jenn
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 02:49 PM
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22. It is so obvious
Edited on Sat Jan-31-04 02:52 PM by are_we_united_yet
it is painful to think about. I just keep asking myself it it me? Is the OSP responsible for this fiasco up to their gills or do I just want to see them go down in flames.

I think the answer is yes to 1 and probably 2 as well :)
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 03:49 PM
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24. keeping this baby kicked
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 04:12 PM
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25. kick for truth
:kick:
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 04:16 PM
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26. handy flow chart


thanks to http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/RRiraqWar.html#p4

posted here by 'Gore4' something
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 06:38 PM
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27. Kick for Sen. Byrd
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Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-04 07:26 PM
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28. Thanks and Kick
All of us here know the truth - but why? - why? - why? - is this all being hid from the American public????
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 09:31 AM
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29. kick
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 10:35 AM
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31. Exactly--that's why they want to investigate "the intelligence"
leading up to war, not specifically "the CIA" but knowing people will think "CIA" and not know abou the OSP. One more bit of delay and deceit from BushCo.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 11:26 AM
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34. OSP is why Bush* will appoint another one of his "Blue Ribbon Panels"
Edited on Sun Feb-01-04 11:52 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
to investigate it...same as his "Blue Ribbon Panel" investigating 911...do ya think he'll drag out Kissinger again to lead it? ... :puke:
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 10:51 AM
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32. OSP ?? What's that??
Seems to be the attitude the press is taking? Even when they talk about whether Bush or the CIA should be blamd, the OSP is never brought up?? No, we don't need no stinkin' investigation....
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 11:26 AM
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33. thank you!
OSP is Key but we can't forget the Defense Policy Board's role in this either. Everyone single member had input and ties to Corps who stood to gain from the Illegal Invasion.

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 12:40 PM
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35. I bookmarked this thread because...
I'm sure the information in it will be very helpful in the weeks and months ahead...
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 01:03 PM
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36. Someone might want to get this to Dennis Kucinich's attention
DK sits on a House Intelligence committee or panel, right?
And Will Pitt is his Press Secretary, right?
Dennis Kucinich is the only candidate that reminds me of the Democratic Party values throughout time, he is fearless fighting for the people and our interests against the evil special interests within the OSP.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 03:24 PM
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38. Kucinich already mentioned it---> Press release here
Edited on Sun Feb-01-04 03:33 PM by Tinoire
((There were other mentions as well but I like this one :) ))

For Immediate Release Contact: Doug Gordon
Friday, December 5, 2003 (202) 225-5871 (w)

Kucinich Sends Letter To Rumsfled Demanding Answers On His Role In Promoting Misinformation In The Lead Up To The War Against Iraq

Congressman Dennis J. Kucinich (D-OH), joined by Reps. Lee (D-CA), Sanders (I-VT), Maloney (D-NY), Carson (D-IN), Grijalva (D-AZ), and Clay (D-MO, today, sent the following letter to Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld to demand answers on his role in promoting misinformation in the lead-up to the war against Iraq:

December 5, 2003

The Honorable Donald Rumsfeld
Secretary of Defense
Department Of Defense
Office Of the Secretary
The Pentagon
Washington, D.C. 20301

Dear Secretary Rumsfeld:

While it has now been widely reported that evidence President Bush used in the 2003 State of the Union, purporting to show that Iraq was trying to acquire nuclear uranium from Niger, was known to be inaccurate even before the State of the Union was delivered, your own role in the dissemination of that disinformation has not been explained by you or the White House:

    You emphasized the uranium claim in testimony to the House Armed Services Committee on September 19, 2002, seven months after it was determined to be false by Ambassador Wilson and General Fulford;

    At your direction, a new intelligence office within the Department of Defense was created specifically to reassess evidence of Iraq’s WMD, and

    At your direction, the Pentagon entered into a contractual relationship with The Rendon Group, a public relations firm which has also worked on behalf of the Iraqi National Congress and Ahmed Chalabi.


The “Sixteen words” of the Secretary of Defense:

On July 7, 2003, the White House finally admitted that the uranium claim should not have been inserted into the State of the Union because it was based on forged evidence. Since then, several individuals in the Administration have decided to take responsibility for not removing the “16 words”. However, while the State of the Union address was certainly one of the most important speeches, it was not the only speech that referenced the uranium claim. In fact, several members of the Bush Cabinet have made many statements citing the false claim over the past year. You were one of them.

On September 18, 2002, you testified under oath before the House Armed Services Committee, that Iraq was trying to acquire nuclear capabilities:

    He has, at this moment, stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and is pursuing nuclear weapons…. His regime has an active program to acquire and develop nuclear weapons. Very likely all they need to complete a weapon is fissile material—and they are, at this moment, seeking that material—both from foreign sources and the capability to produce it indigenously. (Emphasis added)


Questions:

On what evidence did you base the uranium claim?
Did you review the testimony that you gave to the House Armed Services Committees on September 18, 2003 prior to delivering it? Have you reviewed your testimony since the uranium claim has been disputed and retracted?
Did you or anyone else raise objections to the citation on nuclear weapons in the testimony you delivered? If so, why was the information allowed to remain in your testimony?
Have you personally notified the Committee about the discrepancy in your testimony since it has been disputed?


Relative to Ambassador Wilson’s findings:


The uranium claim had in fact been disputed as early as March 2002, six and a half months prior to your address to Congress. In a New York Times op-ed on May 6, 2003 Nicholas Kristof wrote, “more than a year ago the vice president’s office asked for an investigation of the uranium deal, so a former US ambassador to Africa was dispatched to Niger.” In February 2002, according to someone present at the meetings, that envoy reported to the CIA and State Department that the information was unequivocally wrong and that the documents had been forged.

In response to the Administration’s denial that “no one in our circles knew that there were doubts and suspicions that this might be a forgery”, the envoy who was sent to Niger, Ambassador Joseph Wilson, came forward on July 6, 2003, and wrote in a New York Times op-ed, “Based on my experience with the administration in the months leading up to the war, I have little choice but to conclude that some of the intelligence related to Iraq's nuclear weapons program was twisted to exaggerate the Iraqi threat.”

Ambassador Wilson also wrote: “The vice president's office asked a serious question. I was asked to help formulate the answer. I did so, and I have every confidence that the answer I provided was circulated to the appropriate officials within our government.” It is standard operating procedure that if the Vice President asks a question, he receives an answer. Furthermore, Cheney's chief-of-staff told Time Magazine that the Vice President had personal interest in the answer to the questions about Iraqi purchases of uranium from Niger.

In addition to Ambassador Wilson’s report, The Washington Post reported that Deputy Commander in Chief, United States European Command, and Four-star General Carlton E. Fulford also traveled to Niger and similarly concluded that there was no evidence of collusion between Niger and Iraq on uranium. He stated: “I was convinced it was not an issue.” The Washington Post reported that General Fulford’s findings reached chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff Richard Myers.


This raises further questions:

When did the Vice President’s Office, the CIA or the State Department transmit to you, or the Department of Defense, the findings of Ambassador Wilson?
When did you personally become aware of the Wilson findings about the faulty uranium evidence? Who informed you of the discrepancy?
When did Chairman Myers transmit to you the findings of General Fulford?
Do you regard the above referenced findings of Ambassador Wilson as accurate or inaccurate? Do you regard the above referenced findings of General Fulford as accurate or inaccurate? Please explain.


With regard to the Office of Special Plans:


In late 2001, under your direction, a new intelligence office called Office of Special Plans (OSP) was created within the Department of Defense. According to Seymour Hersh in New Yorker magazine, the purpose of the OSP was to evaluate CIA and DIA intelligence, as well as Iraqi defector testimony, and to then manipulate the data to fit into a particular policy envisioned by yourself and Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz:

    “According to the Pentagon adviser, Special Plans was created in order to find evidence of what Wolfowitz and his boss, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, believed to be true—that Saddam Hussein had close ties to Al Qaeda, and that Iraq had an enormous arsenal of chemical, biological, and possibly even nuclear weapons that threatened the region and, potentially, the United States.”

    Hersh continues, “These advisers and analysts, who began their work in the days after September 11, 2001, have produced a skein of intelligence reviews that have helped to shape public opinion and American policy toward Iraq. They relied on data gathered by other intelligence agencies and also on information provided by the Iraqi National Congress, or I.N.C., the exile group headed by Ahmad Chalabi.”


    On July 25, 2003, Jason Leopold, the former Los Angeles bureau chief of Dow Jones Newswire, wrote an article about the findings of the CIA analysts currently investigating the weapons controversy, “…the agents said the Office of Special Plans routinely rewrote the CIA's intelligence estimates on Iraq's weapons programs, removing caveats such as "likely," "probably" and "may" as a way of depicting the country as an imminent threat.”

    He further wrote, “More than a dozen CIA agents responsible for writing intelligence reports for the agency told the former CIA agents investigating the accuracy of the intelligence reports said they were pressured by the Pentagon and the Office of Special Plans to hype and exaggerate intelligence to show Iraq as being an imminent threat to the security of the U.S.”



Further Questions:

9. Did the Office of Special Plans re-evaluate and re-write CIA and DIA intelligence on Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction?

10. Did you or anyone in the Office of Special Plans transmit to the CIA, the State Department, the White House or the National Security Advisor, any of the conclusions the Office of Special Plans drew? If so, when and to whom?

11. Did the Office of Special Plans ever assess the findings of Ambassador Wilson and/or General Fulford? If so, what was its assessment of the findings?

With Respect to The Rendon Group:

In February 2002, the New York Times reported that the Pentagon was using the Rendon Group to assist its new propaganda agency, the Office of Strategic Information (OSI). While OSI was said publicly to have been dissolved after reports they would be disseminating “disinformation”, the Rendon contract with the Pentagon was not cancelled. When newspapers attempted to learn the nature of the contract work, Rendon spokeswoman Jeanne Sklarz rebuffed, "Let me just say that we have a confidentiality/nondisclosure agreement in place" with the Department of Defense.


During the first Gulf War, the CIA, to promote the Iraqi opposition seeking to overthrow Saddam Hussein retained the Rendon Group. The Rendon Group created the name for the Iraqi National Congress and was paid over $100 million dollars by the CIA over the next five years to promote the INC and its leader, Ahmed Chalabi. A February 1998 report by Peter Jennings cited records obtained by ABC News showed that the Rendon Group spent more than $23 million dollars in the first year of its contract with the CIA and channeled $12 million of covert CIA funding to the INC between 1992 and 1996. The CIA IG investigated the Rendon Group in the mid-90’s for the abuse of taxpayer funds.


12. What has the Pentagon contracted the Rendon Group to do? How much are taxpayers paying for the Rendon Group’s work?

13. What did the Rendon Group produce for the Pentagon?

Conclusion:

Your testimony to Congress was influential in shaping the debate about going to war against Iraq and persuaded many Members to vote in favor of the use of military force.

Yet your testimony contained information that you should have known to be false at the time you asserted it. Under your direction, the Department of Defense contracted with a public relations firm that has worked for the Iraqi National Congress and Ahmed Chalabi and created a new intelligence office, the Office of Special Plans, whose purpose was to issue intelligence that supported a case for war against Iraq.

Finally, it is well known that you also have a long record of supporting the overthrow of Saddam Hussein by military invasion. Long before becoming Secretary of Defense, on January 26, 1998, you signed a letter to then-President Bill Clinton urging him to take military action against Iraq to eliminate the threat Saddam Hussein posed the United States. You wrote:

    The only acceptable strategy is one that eliminates the possibility that Iraq will be able to use or threaten to use weapons of mass destruction. In the near term, this means a willingness to undertake military action as diplomacy is clearly failing. In the long term, it means removing Saddam Hussein and his regime from power. That now needs to become the aim of American foreign policy.


You were also reportedly eager to launch military action against Iraq in the immediate aftermath of the September 11, 2001 attacks. On September 12, 2001, the day after the terrorist attacks upon this nation, according to Bob Woodward’s book ‘Bush at War’, you raised, “The possibility that the United States could take advantage of the opportunity offered by the terrorist attacks to go after Saddam immediately.”

Now that one of the pillars of the Administration’s case for an attack against Iraq has been disproved and disavowed, it is important to understand how unreliable intelligence became the basis for the war and who bears responsibility. Your answers, therefore, to these questions will help define your intention and role.

Sincerely,

Dennis J. Kucinich
Member of Congress

Barbara Lee
Member of Congress

Bernard Sanders
Member of Congress

Carolyn Maloney
Member of Congress

Julia Carson
Member of Congress

Raul Grijalva
Member of Congress

William Lacy Clay
Member of Congress

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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 10:39 AM
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43. Thanks!
All power to the people.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 03:17 PM
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37. Hard work should be rewarded
with a :kick:
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 08:43 PM
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39. kick
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-04 09:36 PM
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40. Book-marking this one! Awesome. Kick! n/t
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 05:03 AM
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41. Here comes a two-fer
:kick: :kick:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-04 09:17 AM
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42. Kick
:dem:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 12:30 AM
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44. Another kick for the truth
:dem:
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-04 08:42 PM
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45. Orifice of Fascist Scams
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