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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 08:35 PM
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Wal-Mart: Our shoppers are 'running out of money'
Source: CNN

Wal-Mart's core shoppers are running out of money much faster than a year ago due to rising gasoline prices, and the retail giant is worried, CEO Mike Duke said Wednesday.

"We're seeing core consumers under a lot of pressure," Duke said at an event in New York. "There's no doubt that rising fuel prices are having an impact."

Wal-Mart shoppers, many of whom live paycheck to paycheck, typically shop in bulk at the beginning of the month when their paychecks come in.

... "Purchases are really dropping off by the end of the month even more than last year," Duke said. "This end-of-month (purchases) cycle is growing to be a concern.

Read more: http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/27/news/companies/walmart_...
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 08:36 PM
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1. Then pay your employees a decent wage.
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murphyj87 Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 08:56 PM
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21. Walmart Canada is...
Edited on Wed Apr-27-11 08:57 PM by murphyj87
Walmart Canada is unionized in many parts of Canada and even the minimum wage, though it varies from province to province, averages $9.50 CDN ($9.97 US) an hour.
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 08:02 AM
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80. In Canada
People also have medical coverage. We don't have that in the US, either.
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murphyj87 Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 02:13 PM
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117. Exactly...
The average Canadian has $15,000 in his pocket while the average Ameerican pays that amouint for health costs (insurance, deductibles, and copays). Minimum wage workers in Canada have exactly the same health care as the Premier of their Province, thier Meber of Parliament, and the Prime Minister of Canada.

It should be noted that shortly after Danny Williams got back to Newfoundland after having heart surgery in Florida (where he also has owned a condo and belonged to a golf club there for decades), even his own party turned on him and forced him to resign on the spot, not only as Premier of Newfoundland, but as Member of the Newfoundland House of Assembly for Humber North. Having surgery in Florida when he could and should have had it in Canada completely ended Danny William's political career, much to his surprise.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 09:10 PM
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146. There are no unionized Walmarts in Canada
There was one in Jonquiere, Que that tried to unionize. Walmart shut it down.

Another one TRIED to unionize - then they voted down certification. Some say it was new hires who overwhelmed the vote.
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diane in sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 01:52 AM
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66. I highly recommend your response!!!
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:28 AM
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105. Maybe even a 'union negotiated, collectively bargained'...
Edited on Thu Apr-28-11 10:28 AM by YvonneCa
...decent wage. ;) And realize that some of your customers are having that stripped away from them as we speak.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 08:36 PM
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2. To Walmart I can only say DUH. n/t
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laundry_queen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 12:01 AM
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63. No kidding!
WTF did they think was going to happen? First, kill manufacturing jobs in the US and ship it all overseas so those people who lost their jobs are too broke to buy your shit. THEN take over small towns so that all the local small businesses go under, so THOSE people now are too broke to buy your shit. Then pay people who work for you next to nothing, don't let them unionize or don't give them benefits so THEY can't afford to buy your shit...then you wonder why people aren't buying your shit? Really? Let me know where this asshole got his MBA because I'll be sure to avoid that school when I go get mine.
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999998th word Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 04:01 AM
Response to Reply #63
69. Bingo^
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 05:45 AM
Response to Reply #63
71. Remember when Ford decided
to pay his workers more so they could afford a Ford car? Actually the man was a maniac, hated Unions, and his American "ideal" was a pipe dream. But he did want his workers paid well so they could be good CONSUMERS.

:(

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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 07:37 AM
Response to Reply #63
76. Bravo!
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 07:55 AM
Response to Reply #63
77. Excellent analysis. nt
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 08:01 AM
Response to Reply #63
79. Perfect analysis
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:08 AM
Response to Reply #63
91. That's exactly it, packed in a nutshell.
+1000
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:33 AM
Response to Reply #63
97. Well said!!! n/t
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:07 AM
Response to Reply #63
101. Outstanding rant.
:thumbsup:
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #63
116. +1 TRILLION
NOW they *fake* SURPRISE????

F*CK THESE iRResponsible LOOTERS!
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 02:26 PM
Response to Reply #63
120. Well Said and Agreed n/t
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:55 PM
Response to Reply #63
137. I gotta join in - BULLSEYE !
I could not have said it better ..... Thanks for that ....

BEST post I've read in DU in a long while ...
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 09:06 PM
Response to Reply #63
145. +10000
Not the sharpest business minds at Walmart. The pay was good while it lasted, probably.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 09:04 PM
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144. You got it
Stock your stores with products made ENTIRELY outside the country, then wonder, "hmmm, why can't Americans buy more of our cheap, slave-made shit?"

What a puzzler.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 08:39 PM
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3. You reap what you sow. nt
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 08:40 PM
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4. Wal Mart made a business decision to target lower income customers
Now they are reaping the consequences of that choice.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 09:07 PM
Response to Reply #4
26. They also made the choice to create low income
customers.
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emsimon33 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 11:29 PM
Response to Reply #4
62. EXACTLY!!!!! And they couldn't see it coming?????
This is the beginning of the wave that will engulf the country as more and more people whose jobs were shipped overseas can not afford to purchase what the companies that shipped the jobs overseas are selling.

How did they fail to see the consequences of their greed?
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 08:40 PM
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5. This is what happens when hundreds of billions of Fed money only goes to the wealthy
Trickle down does NOT work, all that money was wasted.

We would be long out of the recession now if just half that had gone to the lower classes.

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RantinRavin Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 08:46 PM
Response to Reply #5
12. Trickle down worked perfect
It trickled right on back to China where it came from.
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Crowman1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:58 PM
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138. What they meant by "Trickle Down" is that the rich piss all over the middle class.
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-30-11 01:07 PM
Response to Reply #138
147. + 1000
:fistbump: :yourock:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 09:07 PM
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25. And we're still subsidizing the oil companies --- !!!!
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 11:00 AM
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109. What I don't understand is why we are not subsidizing Walmart
I always thought Walmart was one of the really Big Shot Republicans, so why haven't they figured a way to get the Government to subsidize them or maybe they do. Maybe it is in Cheap Chinese Imports with little or no tarrifs. :shrug:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #109
115. They will .... maybe something like a Chapel in Wal-Mart? ....
:evilgrin:
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 09:19 PM
Response to Reply #5
29. NONE of it makes any F'en sense, none of it. I just watched
the following. You might find it offensive, I don't know, but for us it certainly lifted the veil off a lot of the stuff we see happening. In fact, we found it one of the best documentaries we've seen if one wants to look behind the curtain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzULm4d8h8w
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 09:27 PM
Response to Reply #29
33. You might find it offensive
Not a bit, actually it looks interesting, thanks!
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 09:34 PM
Response to Reply #33
37. That's good. I'm never quite sure what to say if I send it to someone. I have
a really open mind, I just want to try to understand what's going on. I've been pretty bewildered about some things because something seems just not right.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 09:43 PM
Response to Reply #29
39. kick eom
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 09:49 PM
Response to Reply #39
41. Thanks! n/t
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 12:06 AM
Response to Reply #29
64. kicking to keep a link. watching now.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:14 AM
Response to Reply #64
94. Thanks! n/t
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:10 AM
Response to Reply #29
92. K&R to watch tonight, if it's rainy.
:hi:
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:13 AM
Response to Reply #92
93. Good! I think you'll find it pretty interesting!
:hi:
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ronnie624 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:58 AM
Response to Reply #29
100. Thank you very much for that.
All of those who support the current administration need to watch it.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #100
129. You're welcome. It was a real eye opener for us. You kind of see some
things you wonder about, but when it's all put together it's pretty concerning.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 08:40 PM
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6. Lick it up, Wal-Mart. LICK IT UP.
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xfundy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 08:42 PM
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7. Mal-Wart can congratulate themselves
on making it happen.

Just to see, I went into a local MalWart a few months ago. Noticed their prices on store-brands were often more expensive than national brands, eg, their brand of cream cheese cost more than an equal amount of Philadelphia. Other products (should have made a list) had similar discrepancies. Like most (I'm being generous by not saying ALL) right-wingers, they lie/distort/obfuscate any and every issue or claim.

When shopping for produce and staples, I go out of my way to find and patronize "ethnic" or multi-ethnic stores. Prices are better, people appreciate the patronage and let you know it. Money stays local.
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Knight Hawk Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 09:02 PM
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24. Very careful shopper here
I am sorry but in central Florida on at least 8 out of 10 grocery,produce,meat items Walmart is 10 to 20 % less than their competition.I am not talking about items made in China .I am talking about:eggs,milk,fruit,bread,can goods .Edy's frozen yougert is $3.59 at Walmart over $ 6.00 at Publix,Winn Dixie etc.
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Swagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 09:33 PM
Response to Reply #7
36. patronise Main Street and Mom'n'Pop businesses
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 08:11 AM
Response to Reply #7
83. "Mal-Wart" is perfect!
Spread it far and wide!
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 08:43 PM
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8. More tax cuts for the Walton Family will fix that
Right?
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 08:45 PM
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9. So Mr Duke... Time For You To....


....Put pressure on the other Millionaires like yourself you know the OIL COMPANIES and cry to them about your pain and how it is hurting your bottom line...namely your BONUS.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 08:46 PM
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10. Folks here is a translation
Edited on Wed Apr-27-11 08:47 PM by MadMaddie
WalMart will look at all of the communities where their big fucking stores are, they will evaluate which store to close. (mind you a store that destroyed local community businesses-pick a state and community)

What that means is that WalMart will close stores and further devastate communities. There will be very few local businesses that are still viable. This could kill even more towns.

It's coming....by the way Walmart has the most empty properties across the U.S.
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Sonoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 09:53 PM
Response to Reply #10
44. Well put, MM.
Personally, I don't care what the fuck happens to WalMart, but I do worry about all of those smaller-market communities.

I entered a WalMart exactly one time (to buy 50# of cat litter during an ice storm) and will never go back. It was a de-humanizing experience.

Gave twenty bucks to a guy who was panhandling at the entrance of the store. That was in Montgomery, AL.

Sonoman
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 04:01 PM
Response to Reply #44
126. I entered one once as well, to get gardening gloves I had forgotten on the way to a CSA produce
picking day. Won't go back. But I understand when it's the only game in town and money is tight.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:20 PM
Response to Reply #10
51. they're planning 4 new stores in DC area so this is news---so far, one community saying not so fast
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 03:11 PM
Response to Reply #10
122. and they hold on to those empty stores
to prevent competitors from using the locations.

People will be reduced to buying from gas stations, or driving long distances.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 06:14 PM
Response to Reply #122
134. Exactly!
With the Supreme Court the way it is communities have no real fighting chance of keeping them out.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 08:46 PM
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11. Damn that sucks
My sympathy to the Walton family.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 08:47 PM
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13. Good to see this, 'cause they and others like them could provide
impetus for positive, otherwise difficult/impossible change.
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MattSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:55 AM
Response to Reply #13
108. Why change...
when they can have the government
1) declare them to big to fail
2) then bail them out?

:shrug:
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 08:47 PM
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14. Yeah, crappy wages, selling cheap Chinese crap to enrich the Waltons had nothing to do with it...
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 08:51 PM
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15. Now that Wal-Mart is concerned the people in Wash DC (BOTH
parties) will probably doing something constructive. Can't have Wal-Mart pissed off.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 08:52 PM
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16. If they hadn't alienated the left in so many ways,
they might not be having a problem.
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 08:52 PM
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17. I have no truck with Wal-Mart ...
... but if this is true (and why would they lie about such a thing?) then it bodes ill for the economy.

I continue to be skeptical that there is any real 'recovery' happening for 80+ percent of Americans -- even the slight down tick in unemployment may mean folks just getting McDonald's-type jobs paying a quarter or less of what they earned three years ago.

I think occasionally pent-up demand causes people to spend what little they have saved or else put more on the credit card ... and then it looks like some improvement. But then, as this Wal-Mart story indicates, folks slump back down into fiscal malaise.

And, don't just think it is gasoline prices, everything is going up ... from groceries, to clothing, to health insurance, to school fees, etc.
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Knight Hawk Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 09:09 PM
Response to Reply #17
27. Exactly
The economy for the middle class on down is NOT good and is NOT improving .The financial hole our country has dug itself in will be paid for by the little guy.Obama knows this and is in on the "fix".
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 09:37 PM
Response to Reply #17
38. Hopefully, commercial spending will continue until the jobs return
My employer set an all time sales volume last quarter.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 06:19 AM
Response to Reply #38
72. And exactly what jobs do you expect will return?
Manufacturing is increasing it's numbers of foreign facilities and R&D labs. So, forget manufacturing and research and development.

Corporations are consolidating, creating more and more regional monopolies. Creating fewer and fewer management, supervisory and executive positions.

The remaining jobs, that can not be shipped out or downsized are service jobs. But you can't afford to buy Wal-Mart crap with a McDonald's job.

But maybe the jobs you are thinking of are things like cleaning Bill Gate's toilet. We can all fight over those lucrative jobs.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 06:47 AM
Response to Reply #72
74. You can fight for a job cleaning Bill Gates' toilet
Me, I am going to retire early at age 55.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 08:43 AM
Response to Reply #74
89. Glad you've got yours, jerk. (nt)
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 08:55 AM
Response to Reply #89
90. Who asked you?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #90
111. odd responce...
you thread back to your own self indulgence.

I don't know how that proves your point.

:shrug:
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #111
113. Who asked you?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 02:16 PM
Response to Reply #113
118. You posted on a public site, I responded.
Edited on Thu Apr-28-11 02:17 PM by Javaman
a little defensive aren't you?

have fun pissing on the poor when you retire.

The above poster is correct, you are a jerk.

Ta! :)
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 03:36 PM
Response to Reply #113
124. The fact that the statement is on a publicly viewed message board implies
The fact that the statement is on a publicly viewed message board implies that everyone is indeed asking everyone else questions. Did you not know that...?




Oh, and BTW, I asked myself... just in case your genteelness and civility should continue down its same path :hi:
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 04:21 PM
Response to Reply #124
128. +1
nt
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 07:19 AM
Response to Reply #17
75. What Earthside Said
The real story here is not Wal*mart, it's what it says about the economy. Yes, Wal*Mart has a hand in this, but that's another issue. I have suspected this so-called recovery ever since I heard about it. I am employed and fairly secure at the moment, but I see no evidence in my area of any recovery. The same people are out of jobs who were at the beginning of the crash.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 08:03 AM
Response to Reply #17
81. I imagine everything is going up due largely to gasoline prices.
We have a fossil fuel based economy and many products are petroleum based. You can't just have gas prices go up and nothing else. Gas prices go up everything has to follow. You can't distribute goods without the increased cost of transportation due to fuel expense.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 08:55 PM
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18. It's What I've Been Saying All Along......
who is going to buy the stuff they sell if they can't afford to buy it?

The only way out of our current financial problem is to get people back to work and pay them a decent wage. Once people begin to feel good about themselves again because they are earning money - they will spend it. That is the engine that will get this economy going again. It's not rocket science. And guess what - those earners will begin paying taxes again. Income tax, sales tax, property tax, etc - and that will help dig the government and states out of their financial problems too.

If people don't have it to spend - who's going to go on vacation? Who's going to eat at restaurants? Who's going to go to the movies? Who's going to buy that new car? Who's going to buy those appliances? etc, etc, etc.....

It is very telling that of all corporations complaining that it would be Wal-Mart.

When Wal-Mart is starting to feel the pinch - we are really in bad shape. This doesn't bode well for the U.S.

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Knight Hawk Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 09:16 PM
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28. one small problem....................
back to work earning good wages doing what?.........We are in the middle of a sea change.Good jobs are being exported .Did you see Bernake's press conference today?When questioned about our deficit problems he said it was VERY serious.As a solution he mentioned cutting government programs not a WORD about raising taxes.This is a war between the rich and the poor.Do not bet on the poor(middle class on down).
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 12:54 AM
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65. Bernanke's press conference
I think that can help explain why gold reached another record today.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:23 AM
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95. Bernanke is a typical puke - cut spending, don't raise taxes on the wealthy
:mad:
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 08:55 PM
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19. Gee if only you didn't pretty much single handedly destroyed the manufacturing sector
you would have more customers with money.
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OneAngryDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 08:56 PM
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20. DIRECT ACTION
Go to http://walmartstores.com/contactus/feedback.aspx#1 and tell Wal-Mart what you think of Mike Duke's amazing observation.

I wrote, "In regards to Wal-Mart CEO Mike Duke's recent comment that shoppers are losing buying power inside of your big box store, here's a novel idea to turn things around: Pay your own employees a decent wage, Wal-Mart, and let them unionize. They'll then be able to buy more of your goods."
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 08:00 AM
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78. Kudos to you! nt
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OneAngryDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 08:31 PM
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135. Bumped...
...
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 08:57 PM
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22. I said it yesterday, and I'll say it again...
What happens when the money is all gone?

when the top 2% hoard it all, and there's nothing left (to trickle down) for the masses who are relying on social services or have low wages, the domino effect comes fast...

I wish the PTB would 'get it'
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 09:56 PM
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45. You might want to take a look at post #29. If it
offends you please don't ding me. I'm just trying to get the info. to a few people I think might be interested. We looked at it here and thought it was an excellent documentary on some of the things going on. We too wish the PTB would 'get it', but if you view this documentary you'll probably discover what we did that they aren't interested.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:09 AM
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102. That's exactly why we should be taxing them more
and creating government jobs (maybe temp jobs of two years or so)to stimulate the economy. When more people have $$'s maybe more small businesses will be created to offer more jobs. The only way to get the money back in circulation is taxes.


All their complaining about redistribution of wealth is nonscence...that's what makes the market...movement of $$'s.
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Mulhane Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:37 AM
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107. At least you have to admit...
that there are less aluminum cans on the ground lately.
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 08:59 PM
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23. you mean the Koch types don't shop at Walmart?
Gazillions in profits might drop? Course not..they'll just raise prices. Maybe they shouldn't have monopolized the market by saturating us with stores in every direction. Hope they have to eat that ship of theirs.

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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 09:22 PM
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30. Hey Mike...Fuck you and your Walton bosses.
:grr:

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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 09:26 PM
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31. When the revolution happens, I'm taking over a walmart and declaring it a sovereign nation.
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conspirator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 03:51 PM
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125. I call chairman of the wallmart federal reserve nt
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 04:58 PM
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132. That's community property in my country.
:evilgrin:
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 09:27 PM
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32. Henry Ford could have told 'em that almost 100 years ago, 1914 to be exact.
Edited on Wed Apr-27-11 09:32 PM by Bozita
The big reason behind his famous $5/day wage.
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Scottybeamer70 Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 09:29 PM
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34. They never got any of my money,
so it isn't my fault.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 11:10 PM
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60. We pay more to shop elsewhere even though it hurts our pocketbook.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:25 AM
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96. Me. too. Though I have to say, Costco - after membership - is as cheap or cheaper than Walmart.
AND their products are better. :)
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:26 AM
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104. I have a project on hold because I can't find ceiling hooks at any of the local shops in town.
I live three block away from a Walmart.

The really irksome thing about it is that Walmart put the local True Value hardware store out of business a few years ago. :grr: They would have ceiling hooks.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 09:33 PM
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35. What? You mean the wealthy don't shop there?
Huh, seems like somebody dropped the ball when they decided on their business model.
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 09:46 PM
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40. How does management justify supporting govt policies that
help destroy their core shopper base?

Myopic imbeciles.
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Harmony Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:03 PM
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46. Management these days is focused on short term
goals, but not on any long term goals.

Sad really.

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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:29 AM
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106. Yes. The corpo's only look one quarter ahead. --nt
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 09:49 PM
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42. "Always Low Wages - Always!"
And now, we see what that really amounts to.

I'll be delighted to see the Walton heirs take a bath, and horrified by the degree of suffering implied by what it will take to make that happen.
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DollyM Donating Member (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 09:50 PM
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43. Wal Mart hasn't even considered that it is because their prices are going up way too fast?
A couple of weeks ago, I went to get some groceries at WM. I already by pass their milk because it is nearly 4 dollars a gallon. I can get it at Aldi's for $2.49 a gallon. I was going to make stuffed peppers and about lost it when I saw they were charging $1.44 for a single green pepper! I knew I could get it at the local IGA or Aldi's for half that. Apparenly so did everyone else, there big stock of green peppers sat there so they marked them to 1.22 each a few days later. Still they did not move, then all of a sudden, they were all gone. I waited patiently knowing was what coming next. A few days after that, the people from the food pantry stopped by with my mom's food basket and it contained a dozen green peppers that were very quickly going bad. I am laying odds that they came from Wal Mart because they couldn't sell them at those ridiculous prices. Wal Mart thinks because they are Wal Mart, people won't notice the huge jump in prices and still buy from them. Obviously they were wrong . . .
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Harmony Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:09 PM
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47. For Florida,
Wal mart has offered competitive prices (sometimes cheaper) compared to retail Super markets in the region.

But most produce that Wal Mart procures into the state of Florida, is from California. But with increasing gasoline prices, these cheaper produce goods have sky rocketed. While Publix, Sweetbay, Winn Dixie at least don't rely on produce goods that much from California, but local growers (eg Plant City).

Wal Mart's other problem is that they are often located in sub urban areas that are spaced out. With increasing gasoline costs, I doubt someone would be willing to travel 20 minutes to a Super Wal Mart to save 20 cents on a carton of dozen eggs for example.



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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 03:35 AM
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68. That is truly perverted. People from Florida buying California oranges?
And vice versa? Effing CRAZY!
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 08:05 AM
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82. No kidding. This has bugged the daylights out of me for years.
Watching big huge trucks laden with citrus fruit barreling down the highway headed out of the state and then walking into a grocery story gleefully advertising fresh California citrus. Boggles the mind. Someone once told me it was because Florida produces juicing oranges and California produces eating oranges. Yeah, you go ahead and continue thinking that.
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DollyM Donating Member (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 04:47 PM
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130. and my plan is to have a neighborhood garden and srew Wal-mart!
We have the land and our neighbor likes to garden so he is putting in a nice size garden on our land so we can share in it's bounty. More and more neighborhood gardens are becoming the thing around here. I want to see Wal Mart try to get $1.42 for a green pepper in a couple of months.
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:13 PM
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48. Keep asking republican legislators "where all the good paying jobs?"
Keep up the pressure on these dirtbags although I don't think it will do any good in the long term.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:15 PM
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49. if tax cuts create jobs, where are the jobs? eom
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:18 PM
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50. "and please bail us out b/c our profits aren't in the billion$/quarter anymore"
Edited on Wed Apr-27-11 10:18 PM by wordpix
"and if you don't bail us out, we'll have to layoff thousands and stop building big box stores"

that's the next thing we'll hear.
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JosefK Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:23 PM
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52. ..or maybe women have wisened up & decided to no longer
shop at a place that pays them less than it pays men.
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isuphighyeah Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:24 PM
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53. They never figured that their business
practices would bankrupt the very consumer base that supports them? My heart breaks for them.
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iemitsu Donating Member (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:40 PM
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54. while i have no sympathy for walmart or other corporate giants
this observation is not a good sign for those of us at the bottom.
last night i went to a lowe's to get a replacement hose for my shower stall. it was about 6:30 pm and the store was empty. i have never been in the place when it was so deserted. there was not even a clerk manning the check-out counter. after waiting to pay for several minutes, someone from the customer service/return counter had to come over and work the till (she was not sure she had permission to do it).
both the wife and i thought it strange and foreboding.
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Harmony Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:50 PM
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56. Yes it foreshadows the future
The trend in retail as of 2011 is to send people home who are part time workers, and to let go of full time workers. Part time workers are now staffing full time positions in retail. I mean, think about it....part time workers who average 20-25 hours a week are being told to go home, and their hours are cut by a 1/4, possibly in half?

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iemitsu Donating Member (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 08:59 PM
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143. that sucks.
but i believe you. the corporate model is terribly destructive to communities.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:44 PM
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55. We Got To Get MSM To Pick Up This Story And Report It.........nt
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:52 PM
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57. I'll tell ya what you need to do, Mr. Walmart CEO...
Edited on Wed Apr-27-11 10:52 PM by CoffeeCat
...the next time you're at one of your DC-circuit cocktail parties--rubbing elbows
with the banker, health-insurance, political and business tycoon mucky mucks--just
lean over and tell them to stop their oil-speculating nonsense.

You travel in those circles. Don't act so surprised.


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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 10:59 PM
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58. assholes that they are, Walmart is at least a real business unlike the hedge funds and the like on
Wall Street, so Walmart can be hurt by their customers being hurt.

Wall Street on the other hand sees us as so much ground beef still on the hoof.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 11:09 PM
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59. Their support of special interests is biting them back in the butt.
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emsimon33 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-11 11:26 PM
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61. Create factories overseas to produce your junk and what did they expect!
WalMart--made in China with the cheapest prison labor and the cheapest materials
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Rosie1223 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 12:27 PM
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114. My thoughts, exactly.
:hi:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 02:10 AM
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67. NOTE - NOT 'the working class is hurt' or 'the working class
seems to be getting poorer'. No, it is 'our shoppers are running out of money'.

You know what?

Fuck Wal-Mart, they ran the 'mom and pop' stores out of Americas small towns.

Fuck em.
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 05:44 AM
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70. The bulls are running wild on Wall Street, happy days are here again!
The mark of a successful Democratic administration: Wall Street is hitting new records everyday. Fuck the working class, the investor class comes first and only feeding their insatiable greed is important. Fed prints 600 billion to suppress interest rates and as a result there is no inflation. This would be funny if not so many people were not being seriously injured by this behavior. The answer is cut Social Security and Medicare and then Wall Street can soar higher.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:50 AM
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98. Perfect post, FreeStateDemocrat.
Just adding an observation: "mark of a successful Democratic administration" -- Head of Treasury is a Repuke. Fed Head is a Dummya Bush appointee. .

Head of Defense is also a Repuke (ditto Clinton's Head of Defense) and a Dummya Bush appointee, soon to be replaced by a former Nixon Republican. Almost everyone else is a DLC type (whether or not formally a member), or worse.

Any wonder the results are good for the investor class, but not so much for the middle class or those in need?

I guess a "successful Democratic administration" and a "successful New Democratic administration" are very different.

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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 11:29 AM
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110. a good analogy to what is happening is..... we are experiencing the
running of the bulls...anyone who gets in the way gets gored.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 06:43 AM
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73. Implement the Ryan Plan and the only thing sold at WalMart will be cat food
Edited on Thu Apr-28-11 06:43 AM by neverforget
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 08:15 AM
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84. Wal-Mart: Our shoppers are 'running out of money'
Source: CNN

Wal-Mart: Our shoppers are 'running out of money'


NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Wal-Mart's core shoppers are running out of money much faster than a year ago due to rising gasoline prices, and the retail giant is worried, CEO Mike Duke said Wednesday.

"We're seeing core consumers under a lot of pressure," Duke said at an event in New York. "There's no doubt that rising fuel prices are having an impact."

Wal-Mart shoppers, many of whom live paycheck to paycheck, typically shop in bulk at the beginning of the month when their paychecks come in.

Lately, they're "running out of money" at a faster clip, he said.

Read more: http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/27/news/companies/walmart_...
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 08:15 AM
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85. So give them some, Billionaire family. nt
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fredamae Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 08:15 AM
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86. Well, I'm not sure what to say
aside from the fact that big corps will now fight over the remaing flow of dollars?

EXXON just posted 69% increase in profit..maybe wm will go after that? Run crying to "daddy koch"? Who knows, but what did the corporatist expect?
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 08:15 AM
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87. Walmart gambled big on undercutting their competitors. I hope they lose big too.
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Stumbler Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 08:22 AM
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88. Oh no!
Time to give some tax-subsidies to Wal-Mart to ensure they don't suffer too much from a loss of revenue. As for those lazy, slobbish, piece-of-$#!t customers, it's time for someone to tell them to get off their asses and get to work....

:sarcasm:

:banghead:
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 09:55 AM
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99. They should call their buddies on Wall Street
and tell them to quit hogging all the money.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:25 AM
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103. Um......duh?
And it's not only about fuel pries, although that is certainly a convenient scapegoat for Pontius Pilate Wal-Mart.

Inevitably, the "trickle down and tsunami up" model ends, sooner or later. It simply cannot sustain itself indefinitely.

Now, the top 400 individuals are richer than the next 150 million individuals combined. Well's almost run dry (though it will probably get worse). Luckily for the Waltons, they made billions while the getting was fantastic.

Those of us not in the top 10%, but who do have two cents to rub together, can keep paying the bills for local, state and federal government--with ever-dwindling services and ever-increasing wars--and suck it.



Hmmmm. Wonder who'll win Dancing With the Stars this season.





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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 12:14 PM
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112. Just kick the crap out of the oil companies.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 02:21 PM
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119. Of course, giving them tax breaks didn't bring shoppers into their stores either
Amazing how corporate and wealthy tax breaks seem to have NOTHING TO DO with improving the economy. Customers help businesses thrive, not tax breaks.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 04:48 PM
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131. Don't you just love these people!
Customers help businesses thrive, not tax breaks.

From time to time I hear people who claim they are small business owners and that if they paid less taxes they could hire more workers...
:rofl:

Yeah, sure!...

I'm not an economist but it's an increase in business that prompts a business owner to hire more workers, not a cut in taxes!

Do they really think I'll believe them when they say if they had more money from paying less taxes, they'll spend it on hiring? Yeah, right!!!

If these business owners believe I'll believe them, I have a palm tree in Madison (WI) to sell them!
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 02:49 PM
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121. Henry Ford paid his factory works a decent wage so that they
would be able to afford to buy the automobiles they were building. He simply (and wisely) considered it good business to help build his customer base. But today's oligarchs are idiots. They insist on killing the goose that lays the golden eggs, because they think that is the way to get more gold out of the poor goose!
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 03:28 PM
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123. Mehhbe Walmart it's b/c YOUR prices are too high. Believe it or not Walmart's prices
are not cheap for a lot of things. I was there for pj's for a last minute weekend trip. One set was $25. That's not much for a normal store but Walmart's quality is inferior. The set should have cost more than half the price.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:59 PM
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139. So True ...
Something I had to point out to some supporters of Walmart .... I challenged them to actually compare their prices with other big box stores ...

They are less expensive by pennies (at best, and often more expensive), and their goods are shittier by dollars ....

My friends dont shop there now either ....

NOTE: Portland OR has very few Walmarts, and plenty of other options ... I feel sorry for those in other communities who do not have those options ...
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 04:13 PM
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127. i would be happy if they went out of business
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 05:37 PM
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133. I predicted this years ago when the move to off shore a majority of jobs went
into high gear.

I asked if the corporations were really that stupid that they could not see the future when the majority of the people would no longer be able to purchase even necessary goods.

I was told that the corporations were not worried because they would get their riches from the rest of the world and the USA would eventually become a country of low wage workers.

But it seems the rest of the world is having their financial problems too. Those super rich obscenely over paid CEOs and their flunkies are creating a world in which they will not be able to get the luxuries that they want because they failed to realize that money flows upward. When the base of the economic pyramid crumbles, the rest of the pyramid is going to come tumbling down too. And when the base collapses, there will be no goods made because the base will be too occupied with surviving to be able to create expensive goods (which take expensive parts).

A rising tide lifts all boats and floating docks. A lowering tide causes the big boats to lower just like the little boats. And the little boats need less dept. That ole luxury liner, it gonna go aground on the sandbar sooner than Commodore CEO realizes...
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-11 10:53 PM
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136. EVERY supposed 'Entrepreneur' who has trafficked in ANTI Labor memes
Edited on Thu Apr-28-11 10:55 PM by Trajan
Doesn't realize - They are biting the hand that feeds them ...

EVERY wage they suppress ... EVERY reasonable benefit they deny ... EVERY step they take, whether material or rhetorical, that supports the suppression of worker wages and compensation - Is a step toward the failure of their own business ....

Some 80 years ago - The American people suffered a horrible depression, which changed the basic nature of the social compact between government and citizens ....

Now ? ... People have long forgotten the pain that led them to FDR, and have bought into the nonsense by the conservative snake oil salesmen that wages must be reduced in order to 'compete' ...

The people are doomed to repeat history, it seems .... Thanks in at least small small portion to the refusal of the Democrats to support the liberal philosophy that once made them great .... They have been outmaneuvered at almost every step these last three decades ...

Yeah .. Your shoppers are running out of money alrighty .... Walmart was part of the problem, and now THEY will reap the whirlwind as well ...

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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 02:13 PM
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140. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha
People seem to be taking my advice...

Buy local, buy used and think about whether you NEED it and if not, don't buy at all!
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 04:53 PM
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141. The whole country is running out of money, not just your Walmart shoppers.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 06:21 PM
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142. This is just the beginning.....
This is going to happen to the majority of companies as they cut wages and unions and drive the middle class into the poor class. No one of will have any money to do anything but pay the absolute necessities...if they're lucky. As more people default on their mortgages because of decreased wages and higher expenses...the banks are also going down the tube along with a lot of small businesses. The end of America as we know it!
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LetTimmySmoke Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 01:40 PM
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149. And megacorporations didn't think about this BEFORE they started offshoring all our jobs?
Short term profits, long term fail.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 06:52 PM
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150. Every time I see this I think it's from the onion.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 07:14 PM
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151. Candidate for this year's "You Call This NEWS?" Award
You mean that WASN'T Sam Walton's ultimate goal?

:eyes:
rocktivity
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 07:14 PM
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152. Pretty bad when your base can't even afford to buy cheap junk from China.
Me thinks a cost-of-living-wage will solve this.
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