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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 07:36 AM
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Post-ABC poll: Sarah Palin lags Obama in theoretical 2012 presidential election
Source: Washington Post

Sarah Palin has played a prominent role in defining Republican Party politics this year but still faces sizable obstacles if she decides to run for president in 2012, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

Six in 10 voters say they would not even consider voting for the former Alaska governor if she launches a White House bid, and she loses badly to President Obama in a hypothetical 2012 general election test.

Despite her high profile, amplified this fall by her campaign appearances and endorsements and her new reality TV program, "Sarah Palin's Alaska," Palin has not made demonstrable progress in overcoming opposition to her possible candidacy. If anything, she has slipped over the past year.

A slim 8 percent of all registered voters say they would definitely vote for Palin for president, while 31 percent say they would consider doing so. Fully 60 percent say they definitely would not. Among all Americans, 59 percent say they would not vote for her, up from 53 percent in November 2009.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...



Don't listen to them, grifter quitter. Become their nominee in 2012, so that we can take back the House.
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 07:38 AM
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1. The damn liberal media is persecuting Our Sarah again
:sarcasm:
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 07:53 AM
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2. Palin is the most classless person in politics in a long time. eom.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 07:56 AM
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3. It still shocks the hell out of me that 31% would even consider voting for her.
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LittleGirl Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 07:59 AM
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4. And 20% of them
live in Indiana. argh.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 09:51 AM
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11. It still shocks the hell out of me that the media discusses her as if she's a competent candidate
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:59 AM
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40. Probably the same 30% that stuck with Dummya till the end.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:03 AM
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5. Candidate for this year's "You Call This NEWS?" award
Edited on Fri Dec-17-10 08:08 AM by rocktivity
To figure that out, they had to take a POLL?



"Get thee beyond me, polls! Unclean! UNCLEAN!!!"

:eyes:
rocktivity
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RZM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:12 AM
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6. I hope Palin is not the nominee
I'd prefer she didn't run at all. I'd like to see Obama hash it out with somebody who actually knows a thing or two about governing so the campaign can be about issues and not personalities. Palin's a lightweight on actual policy, so a campaign with her in it would degenerate into a TMZ-style circus. Many in the media despise her, which would in the end help her efforts to further build up her 'populist' brand. It would be a pretty nasty campaign that would bring out the worst on all sides.

There's also a small chance that she could win too, though she would probably need help in the form of a major scandal on the other side. While that's not likely, I'd rather not risk it. Unfortunately if she runs I think she does have a shot at the nomination, though it's probably going to be a pretty hard-fought contest for the Republicans this time around.

BTW, THIS IS MY 1000th POST!

:woohoo:
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Roy Rolling Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:25 AM
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8. congratulations
on your 1,000 comments. We cannot give up talking just because the other side has its hands over their ears.
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 09:53 AM
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12. Oh, she'll run all right
She's far too vain not to.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:13 AM
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13. I hope she is the nominee.
I want "respectable conservatism" to be utterly destroyed, and replaced with this more obviously fascist variant. Scary possibilities, but better in the long term. Hopefully I'm not being like one of the radical Germans who didn't mind Hitler's ascendancy, knowing that it would lead to the ruin of old Germany.
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RZM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:24 AM
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35. Palin is not Hitler
and the US is not Weimar Germany. I'm not saying our system will last forever, but unlike in Weimar, our system has deep support across the political spectrum. Lots of people might not like the President or Congress, but even the most anti-establishment characters here have less beef with the system and more with the behavior of those that run it.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:35 PM
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46. You're absolutely right.
I would say the US is more like the Soviet Union in the 1970s - seemingly stable, with deep faultlines under the surface. I have no illusions that the US is about to fall, but I also have no illusions that it is invincible. Nor did I mean to equate Palin to Hitler. That said, I do think the sentiment of those on the left hoping for Palin to lead to GOP is rather like the KPD wanting Hitler to lead the capitalist faction in Germany.
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RZM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 09:47 PM
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47. There's a couple big differences though
The Soviet Union in the 1970s had some glaring political and economic problems that we don't have. They had restless minorities within a system that was primed for collapse -- observers compared it to a 'chocolate bar,' with perforations along ethnic lines, meaning it was ready-made for division. Also, their economy was an absolute disaster area. Ours isn't great right now, but it's nothing compared to the unbelievable waste and inefficiency that was built into the Soviet economy.

I don't think our system will collapse anytime soon. It won't last forever, but it will probably be around long after you and I are gone.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:47 AM
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38. Palin's a lightweight on actual policy,
A lightweight???

I'd say she's a neutrino! No mass, no charge.

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RZM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:57 AM
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39. That's the sense I get
I doubt she knows nothing at all, as you can't be heavily involved in politics without at least absorbing something. Total lack of political knowledge of any kind is usually restricted to people who reject the entire process, mainly non-voters who never follow current events.
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 08:19 AM
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7. Really?? Who gives a shit ??
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 09:06 AM
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9. Watching the MSM pimp Palin is freakin' hilarious
She does not now, nor has she ever, been a serious contender, and yet they keep propping her up as a straw-moose.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 09:44 AM
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10. She is just the victim of not getting her name out there enough
:eyes:

She is like a political snuggie.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:19 AM
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14. Obama has big lead on Palin, poll says
Source: USA Today

Sarah Palin doesn't like the way Barack Obama is conducting the presidency, but not many Americans see her as a potential replacement.

Obama beats Palin 54% to 39% in a theoretical presidential match-up, says a new ABC News/Washington Post poll.

Palin pointed out that it's early, and, besides, she is months away from deciding whether she will seek the presidency. Check out our OnPolitics blog for an account of Palin's "prayerful" consideration of a 2012 bid.

"A poll number like that, it's like, 'oh yeah, that doesn't look really pretty today," Palin told ABC News. "But a primary is months and months in the process, and there are thankfully many debates. And if I were to participate in that contested primary -- you know, it -- I would be in it to win it."

Read more: http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/20...
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:19 AM
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15. Sarah Palin - the Great White Hope
for reelection of the President.

Pretty fracking pathetic.
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Creative Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:20 AM
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32. I must be missing something--aren't most of the other potential nominees also white?
In any case, last week someone posted a poll that said Romney was leading Obama. I responded that I assumed that he would still beat Palin. Thus, I must be brilliant.

Not really. Nor are any of the other pundits and pollsters who think they know what will happen in two years.
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:22 AM
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34. more like, The Great White Hype. n/t
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 11:33 AM
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43. Or Great White Dope!
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:19 AM
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16. "there are thankfully many debates"
Yes, your debate persona - Miss Junior Teen South Carolina, should sway Americans.

:eyes:
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molly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:19 AM
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17. When Sarah Palin is republican's best hope
you know their party is dying too. I want to be in the same party as Bernie Sanders.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:19 AM
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18. Her battle will be against Jeb Bush's plan for Marco Rubio. She can
fight them, but she'll lose. Grandma Barbara Bush said it succinctly, she thinks Palin should stay in Alaska.

Good luck Palin, lol.

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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:19 AM
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19. So ... when Obama defeats Palin ...
... in the Republican primary, who will be his Democratic opponent in the general election?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:19 AM
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20. Does it really matter at this point?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:19 AM
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21. Wow. That's encouraging.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:19 AM
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22. It's all those happy little RepubliCONS who love Obama's tax give aways
to the rich.

Not to mention all those hypocrites who want to destroy Social Security
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:19 AM
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23. I don't believe Palin will get nomination
his challenger will be either Romney or Bloomberg.....
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:19 AM
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31. Couldn't agree more...
nominating Palin would be suicidal for the repukes. My money is on Romney, and when it comes to Romney vs. Obama, I'd call it a toss-up right now.
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SomeGuyInEagan Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:21 AM
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33. I don't believe she wants it ...
She knows the money is in standing to the side and hurling feces. That's why she quit in Alaska.

She also knows that she needs to hint at (or even run with no intention of winning) to enhance her brand to keep making the big bucks.
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:19 AM
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24. Is this really a surprise?
In my opinion, Obama had better HOPE that Palin is the nominee.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:19 AM
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25. Like that means anything.
In spite of all the noise the crazies make, my 6-year old Beagle could win against Palin.
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:19 AM
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26. The only problem is that Obama won't be running against Palin!
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:19 AM
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27. Who cares?
Edited on Fri Dec-17-10 10:26 AM by slackmaster
Palin is not going to be nominated.

Automatic Unrec for Palin worship thread.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:19 AM
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28. 39% . . we are a nation with a lot of idiots
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:19 AM
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29. " . . primary is months and months in the process . . "
" . . primary is months and months in the process . . "

????

" . . and there are thankfully many debates. . . "

Yes, Sarah, debating is truly your strength.

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RZM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:26 AM
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36. Correct
I don't think she's going to fare well with Romney, the Huckster, and whoever else working overtime to tear her apart. She has a base of support in the party that might see her through, but it's not going to be easy for her.
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montanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:19 AM
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30. Good to know Obama could beat the worst person in America.
but that the worst person could get 39% is startling.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 10:41 AM
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37. does that mean we can put the "president palin" meme to rest?
or will we still receive those threats anytime someone deigns to criticize obama?
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 12:38 PM
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44. 'Fraid not
It's far too entertaining for some in the media and on DU to wave a Palin voodoo doll in the faces of those who would actually like to see a little of that hope and change.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 11:02 AM
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41. Putting her in the same poll with Obama is an insult. Media needs spanking.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 11:22 AM
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42. In a theoretical race between 0 and his arch nemeses Brer Rabbit.
0 has a surprising lead. Everyone is surprised the theoretical race is not between 0 and Windmills, where his lead is smaller.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-10 04:22 PM
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45. yeah, well Carter had a big lead on Reagan, too.
I think Palin would win.
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