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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 06:55 PM
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Comedian Al Franken to run for Senate in Minnesota
Edited on Wed Jan-31-07 07:02 PM by El Supremo
WASHINGTON -- Comedian and radio talk show host Al Franken has begun calling Democratic members of Congress and prominent Minnesota Democrats to tell them he will definitely challenge Republican Sen. Norm Coleman in 2008, McClatchy Newspapers has learned.

On Monday, Franken announced that he was quitting his radio show on Feb. 14, and he told his audience that they'd be the first to know of his decision. But Franken has been working the phones in recent days, telling his political friends he's ready to declare his candidacy. McClatchy Newspapers confirmed Wednesday that Franken made calls to at least two members of the Minnesota congressional delegation in Washington to break the news. The sources spoke on the condition of anonymity, not wanting to pre-empt Franken's announcement.

"From his voice to my ears, he's running," said one House member, who relayed the remark via his press secretary.

"I can tell you we got one of those calls," said a top-ranked aide for another House member.

Franken declined to be interviewed....

http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/16590899.htm

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CarlWoodward Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 06:58 PM
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1. Go Al!
Go Al go!
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 07:00 PM
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2. Yes!
:thumbsup:
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 07:01 PM
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3. Franken is a fighter
Edited on Wed Jan-31-07 07:02 PM by Botany
Hope he drops some Jew-Jitsu on Norm.

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 07:02 PM
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4. Let me know when there's a link to donate money! n/t
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 07:31 PM
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13. Here's his PAC. He was able to give $1 million to Democratic candidates in 2006:
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 02:07 PM
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71. He can't use the $$ from his PAC. Don't donate to his PAC thinking it'll help his campaign. n/t
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 07:03 PM
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5. Watch the righties rail on a comedian running for Senate !
They practically worship a b-movie actor.

Franken has more intelligence and talent than Reagan and Sonny Bono put together.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 12:08 PM
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42. The wing nutz will rail
no matter who runs. We should find someone to legally change his name to Jesus Christ and put him on the ballot. The right wing would have a group convulsion.
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 09:14 PM
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124. If Jesus ...

If Jesus came down and ran as a Democrat, they would call him a hippie pacficistic communist for his "peace", "love" policies. They would also strenuously oppose Jesus curing the poor of disease via healthcare and feeding the poor masses via welfare stamps.

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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 12:39 PM
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50. They elected Fred Grandy who played Gopher
on the Love Boat, to congress 4 times. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Grandy They can't make fun of Al, when they elected a second rate actor.

zalinda
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 02:09 PM
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73. That'll backfire in Minnesota.
Constant personal attacks throughout the campaign will make Coleman look very un-Minnesotan.
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 07:50 PM
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98. Norm IS un-Minnesotan, He's from New York
To be honest, Al was born in New York as well, but at least he went to High School in Minnesota.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 09:37 PM
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101. Minnesotans elected an ex-pro wrestler to the governorship.
I don't think they'll have any problems with a comedian -- especially a principled, intelligent one who will stand up for their interests in Washington.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 07:03 PM
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6. Winner of this month's "You Call This NEWS?" award
But in the nicest possible way.

:headbang:
rocknation
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 07:08 PM
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10. You made me laugh.
Thanks.

:headbang:
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 07:03 PM
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7. MUCH more than a "comedian" - he has the grasp of
all the issues AND has been working the ground in Minnesota boosting the likes of Amy Klobuchar and extending the ground level legacy of Wellstone.

I will miss him on Air America - while his seeming buffoonery turned off many on this forum - I appreciated his in depth treatment of issues using real experts to augment his comments.

He has done the homework - more power to him.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 07:59 PM
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18. You are so right. He had the best on his shows, from NOrm Ornstein to
Christy Harvey to Melanie Sloan to Joe Conason and Tom Oliphant. What a lineup of great guests!

I am happy for him and I welcome him and hope he will be the next senator from Minnesota!
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 12:05 PM
Response to Reply #18
41. I miss the Oy Yoy Yoy show!
And I miss Katherine too.

Go get 'em Al!!
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 01:29 PM
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63. Once Katherine Lanpher and Joe Conason were filling in for Al
and they did their own "Goy Goy Goy Show"! It was very funny!
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 02:00 PM
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68. Well said, well said!
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 07:04 PM
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8. "From his voice to my ears, he's running," That sounds just like Oberstar. n/t
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 07:05 PM
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9. I'm very happy for the future Sen. Franken!
I will miss him dearly on Air America. But I think his voice is needed in the Senate.
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dsharp88 Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 07:25 PM
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11. Woo hoo!!!
Give 'em hell, Al!!!
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 07:28 PM
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12. Interesting non-commital comments
stuff like "From his voice to my ears, he's running," or "I can tell you we got one of those calls,"

You don't hear "Al will make a great Senator!" or "I look forward to working with Al in Congress." Justn non-commital comments. Such is life within the Beltway.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 04:03 PM
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89. That's because he hasn't officially announced

He wants his radio listeners to hear it first.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 07:50 PM
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14. Love Al
Most DUers can not but help love the guy. I wish the other native son could run -- Garrison.
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 02:00 PM
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69. We only have two native sons?
;)
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 03:11 PM
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84. NO!
:cry: for my radio! NPR needs Prairie Home Companion!
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 07:53 PM
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15. Go get 'em Al!
Give them hell!
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Savannah_H Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 07:56 PM
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16. reply
:boring:
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 02:52 PM
Response to Reply #16
80. Just curious.
Why did you pick my thread to give the "zzz" emoticon to?
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ptolle Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 10:44 PM
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104. knots
Much as I'll miss his voice on Air America, and as good a senator as I believe he'll be I'm just as pleased to see this development along with Al Gore's Nobel for the enormous knots this will put in the knickers of the freepers and their fellow travelers.You've got to know blowhardbillow lielly and the rest of the talking bobbleheads at the faux noise channel are going to bust a gut on hearing this o'lelly's enormous skull might explode.
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 10:55 PM
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105. Yes...he's been thinking about it for years now.
He will be good for America and better yet he'll replace Norm Coleman...a senator who is in my top ten list of most hated. I so loved it when Galloway gave him a thumpin' last year and we got to watch on C-Span. Norm Coleman, you are but one of the "pack", THE PACK OF LIES George was refering to!
chknltl
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 07:57 PM
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17. This is going to be awesome
Go Al!
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 08:00 PM
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19. "...not wanting to pre-empt Franken's announcement." WTF???
"The sources spoke on the condition of anonymity, not wanting to pre-empt Franken's announcement."

Anonymity has nothing to do with the fact that each of the two House members Franken called DID EXACTLY THAT - they PRE-EMPTED Franken's announcement.

It's no wonder Americans don't trust Congress any more.
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 02:12 PM
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75. Get a grip, it was likely a planned leak to have media attention ready for his announcement.
The quote sounds like Oberstar and Oberstar would not leak it without it being a planned leak. He's as trustworthy as they come and also respects the process, system, and individual candidate's wishes. So IF it was Oberstar, it was definitely a planned leak. It probably was even if it was another Member.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:15 PM
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117. "Get a grip"??? Followed by a criticism based purely on speculation???
I'm not criticizing Franken. I'm criticizing the way the article was written.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #19
86. no, just followin the game plan
they are working with Al
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 08:16 PM
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20. Can he win?
Norm will be on life support by then due to his undying support for *. But can a comedian who's lived in NY for 30 years win the seat?

:shrug:
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 08:28 PM
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21. good question
i also worry that the average voter may not think Franken is "serious" enough, but then again this is the state that elected Jesse Ventura, so anything can happen -- keep your fingers crossed
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 09:12 PM
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29. Ventura won in a 3 way race with well under 50% of the vote
To date, we have not had a senate race where a third party candidate had any serious effect on the outcome. I have concerns about how well Franken will do outside of the metro area. As Coleman is seen as very vulnerable, I would hope we'll have several candidates running for endorsement (unless the fix is in and the DSCC has already picked Franken for us liked they picked Klobuchar).
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 04:07 PM
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90. He's hugely popular in Minnesota

this race isn't going to be close. Coleman is history.
Good riddence slimey Norm!
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EndElectoral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 08:32 PM
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22. Against Norm Coleman's dumpster diving record? I would think he has a good chance
Edited on Wed Jan-31-07 08:32 PM by EndElectoral
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 08:52 PM
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23. I've always considered this seat and taking down Coleman personal
-especially after the fact that they launched that 'fune-rally' smear. the just had to use paul's death as another excuse to spreaddisinfo.
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 12:13 PM
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44. Highly unlikely that Coleman really won the seat to begin with.
Edited on Thu Feb-01-07 12:16 PM by Stevepol
If there's a fair vote count, Franken will run away with the election.

Coleman was down about 5% in polls to Mondale, a very fine and well-liked candidate. Votes were counted primarily on optiscans (ES&S I think), the same year of the obvious fraudulent result in GA (Cleland losing to Diebold) and the very suspicious results in CO (Allard supposedly beating Strickland) and several other suspicious results.

When there's no audit, the optiscans are no better than touchscreens.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 10:59 PM
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127. I think it had more to do with the way the absentee ballots were handled
If you'd voted for Wellstone and weren't able to refile your ballot, your vote did not transfer to Mondale. All of Coleman's absentee ballots were counted. The rationalization for this was that it couldn't be assumed a Wellstone voter would automatically have voted for Mondale. I never heard any explanation as to why it could be assumed that someone who had voted for Coleman instead of Wellstone would have voted for Coleman instead of Mondale.
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 01:46 PM
Response to Reply #23
65. Oh, God, don't get me started
I was at the Wellstone memorial and the reich-wing smear job afterward just sickened me like little else ever has.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 09:00 PM
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24. assumes no primary contest?
"he will definitely challenge Republican Sen. Norm Coleman in 2008" -- a bit premature, maybe.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 09:19 PM
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30. Minnesota is a caucus state.
The state DFL convention is usually held in early June and the party's endorsement is given to candidates running for statewide office. Quite often, there will be candidates who run against the endosed candidate in the September primary. There are two problems with this, 1) the primary is so late in the year we spend the whole summer running against other DFLers instead of the Republican and 2) we don't have party registration and if the Repukes don't have any serious primary contests (and quite often they don't) they can cross over and vote for the DFLer perceived to be the weakest candidate. It's been a while, but Republican cross over has caused problems.

Hopefully, we will come out of the convention with everyone united behind the endorsed candidate (whoever it is) so there will be no primary and we will be able to concentrate on beating Normie.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 09:27 PM
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32. Wow, good luck with all that
I hope you guys come out unified and strong behind whoever it may be by September 2008.
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 09:02 PM
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25. Good Luck, Al
I wish him all the luck in the world. Norm Coleman is a jerk, but this is going to be a tough race.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 09:06 PM
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26. Al beat Norm's BUTT
Norm is a poor excuse of a Senator

it was a travesty
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 09:06 PM
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27. Go Al!
:bounce:
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 09:06 PM
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28. Go Al! Kick Normie's ass!!!
:yourock:
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 09:19 PM
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31. All I can say is that I will miss him on Air America; he was the highlight of my day
and I hope he is not passing by his real calling. He deserves to run like anyone else though and he's probably more informed than 90 percent of the Senators already there. I think he and Tom Oliphant need to make a book out of their interviews. Some days I cry when I think of them giving up those conversations. It's just unsurpassable political commentary and information.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 02:04 PM
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70. Al's in depth conversations with his guests were pure gold. Such a gift to listeners.
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kdpeters Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 12:34 AM
Response to Reply #31
106. I always love Oliphaunt on Thursdays
Could there be a nicer guy?
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Bretttido Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 09:41 PM
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122. Don't feel too bad, Thom Hartman will be on
Thom Hartman will be taking his slot and I can't think of anyone better to fill the empty slot.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 09:49 PM
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33. It'd be great
to read about Sen. Franken meeting dubya and insulting him in some way or other, there are so many possibilities. :)
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 09:56 PM
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34. Norm Coleman is so stiff ..
.. he could serve as a stunt double for a cadaver.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 12:57 PM
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59. He's not stiff
He's flexible, like a Slinky. He was a Democrat when it was convienent, then he became a Republican when it was convienent. He supported Bush and the war while it was convienent, then all of a sudden he doesn't want a troop surge in Baghdad. Anbar Province, yes, Baghdad, no.

I've been here only 18 monhts and I don't like him either!
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 05:11 PM
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94. He's only stiff when he gets a near 20-something women in bars. n/t
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 10:07 PM
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35. Got my checkbook ready. nt
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Dude_CalmDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 10:08 PM
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36. Go Al! You're good enough, smart enough, & doggonnit people like you.
Run Al!
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Treclo Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 12:25 PM
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45. Ahh, I was gonna say that!
This is great news! And we do like you, Al! :) :) :)
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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 02:11 PM
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74. Terrific
I loved his Smiley character on SNL. I will always remember that act with "Smiley" Michael Air Jordan Pure genius. Al against Norm Coleman? Slam dunk!
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 08:52 AM
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113. Dammit! I wasn't fast enough!
x(
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 10:13 PM
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37. AwwwwwwwRIGHT!!!1 GO, Al and FIGHT'em!!!1 n/t
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 10:41 PM
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38. Go, Al!
I'll be donating to the campaign!
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 03:57 AM
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39. I'd vote for him.
Of course, I have the slight drawback of being a resident of a different state... but hey. :)
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IronScorpio5 Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 12:05 PM
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40. Go Al !!!
nt
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 12:12 PM
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43. Does this mean
there will be two transplanted New York Jews running for the Senate in Minnesota? Before selling his soul, Coleman was a Democrat. It's time for Coleman to have his foreskin reattached and add an N to his last name.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 12:36 PM
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48. Except that Al was born and raised in Minnesota. NT
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 12:39 PM
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49. Born in NY, raised in Minnesota.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 12:47 PM
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53. I stand corrected. Al says "I'm the only New York Jew in the race who's from
Minnesota." I interpreted that to born there.
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 08:07 AM
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111. He says that because Norm is from New York, Jewish and not raised here.
I like Al's deadpan style of humor saying something that sounds deeply profound or provocative, but really is just the facts. He likes semantics and what he can do with them. A nice juicy steak, or a segment of muscle tissue from an immature, castrated bull? (Sorry for the mind picture, noncarnivores)
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chaplainM Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 12:27 PM
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46. I'm especially going to miss...
Linda Ronstadt singing, "Jonny Alter."
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 12:30 PM
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47. YES!
Go, Al! I will definitely donate to his campaign (even tho' I'm in DE)!
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 12:43 PM
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51. The problem is....
he's spent his whole life getting people to NOT TAKE HIM SEROUSLY
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byronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 12:49 PM
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56. I think he's made a serious impact in the last few years.
Deep analysis, hard emotion, damn serious moments. Very, very different Al on AAR than on Lateline or SNL. He's a Good Man, albeit a little moderate for me, and I accept his apologies for de-emphasizing election fraud with gladness, not blame. He tries hard. I think he's revealed all the qualities necessary to lead.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 12:50 PM
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57. This is the state that elected a pro wrestler as governor.
I don't think his show-biz career will be a problem.
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Contrite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 01:57 AM
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107. Yes, but he was mayor of Brooklyn Park first.
Edited on Fri Feb-02-07 02:01 AM by Contrite
Al has no political experience. I think Democrats will have to choose a stronger candidate to beat the incumbent Coleman, as much as many of us here hate him passionately.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 01:01 PM
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60. He's been to Iraq like 5 times with the USO during the holidays...
cheering up the troops. He was there for like a month this last time. How often has fatass Limp-bough been there?

Hell, Al has more time on the ground in Iraq than Colecreature does!
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 02:15 PM
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76. People who have heard him recently expecting comedy found that...
...he was very articulate, serious and intelligent. They were shocked by it. Those are the comments I keep hearing. After a long campaign and debates, he won't have so much of an issue with that.
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AndreaCG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 04:35 PM
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91. You don't take his books seriously?
Apart from their titles, they are thoroughly researched and footnoted. Al acknowledges that he hires research assistants to make sure of the accuracy of what he writes.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 12:47 PM
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52. I thought Norm Coleman was a friend of his?
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 12:48 PM
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54. He HATES Coleman. Wellstone was a friend of Al's. NT
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 08:09 PM
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99. I would SWEAR he is always referring to his personal friend
Norm Coleman on his show..............

(kestrel wanders off, shaking head, totally mystified)
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 09:40 PM
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102. If he did, he was telling a joke. He HATES Coleman with a white hot passion.
The article at this first link is brilliant, but a 4 paragraph clip wouldn't be fair to it. Please read:

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0413-04.htm

Then there's this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/al-franken/what-in-gods-n...

Last Friday I was on the panel of Bill Mahers season finale of his HBO show Real Time. Bills guest by satellite was Senator Norm Coleman from my home state of Minnesota. Because Coleman serves on the homeland security committee, Maher asked him to comment on former homeland security director Tom Ridges recent revelation that the Bush administration would often issue terror alerts that he didnt think were warranted.
Could it be that they were using terror alerts politically?

Coleman answered that it was always good to err on the side of caution. Maher followed by asking Coleman if it struck him as odd that there havent been any terror alerts since the election?

After a long laugh from the audience, Coleman answered with some stuff about there still being a high level alert, but then reassured everybody with: "If in fact people used these things for political purposes, Im sure Congress will look into that."

Wow! If people used these things for political purposes, hes sure the Republican Congress will look into it? How is it that this guy cant get through a five minute interview on a political comedy show without having to resort to total b.s.?
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Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 10:04 PM
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103. There is another Norm Coleman in Minnesota...
He is a columnist in the Minneapolis Star Tribune, and a lifelong democrat. If Al was referring to any friend "norm coleman", that would be him.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 03:47 PM
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118. Or maybe it's Norm Ornstein? That name also keeps poking into my head...
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StarTurtle Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 09:25 PM
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121. That's NICK Coleman.
Son of the late state senator by the same name, brother of the current mayor of St. Paul.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 12:49 PM
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55. Hey Al! Watch out for those lying liars and the lies they tell!
Beware of Limbaugh too. I hear he's a big, fat idiot.
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 09:47 PM
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125. Interesting ...

I wonder if Limbaugh will actually speak the name Franken. It seemed to me that they would always talk about how Air America is going under, but they would never specifically address any of the talent on the other side. The idea is to make them seem to irrelevant to mention. O'Reilly would reference Franken but he always calls him "Stuart Smalley".

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 12:51 PM
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58. This Minnesotan is excited to see him enter the race.
:toast:
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 02:43 PM
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79. Me too!
Edited on Thu Feb-01-07 02:43 PM by myrna minx
Since Coleman absconded with Wellstone's seat, I look forward to our Senate seat returning to a DFL'er will take up Wellstone's causes. :toast:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 02:54 PM
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81. I think he's reaching out to the right people and really taking this seriously.
I appreciate his patriotism. He doesn't need the work. ;)

:hi:
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eyepaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 01:11 PM
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61. Here's anothe MInnesotan looking forward to voting for Al
I think he'll make a great Senator--he's clearly got a penchant for doing his assigned reading as well as being very quick witted. There will be few the right wing nuts would like to savage more--and few they will be able to savage less.

Just the thought of O'really having to choke out the phrase "Senator Franken" practically makes me swoon with delght.
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 03:36 PM
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87. CSPAN2 will be much more interesting.
With Sen. Al Franken (D-MN) in the house!
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 01:28 PM
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62. I can't wait to see him on the talk circuit
They'll actually have to take him seriously.

Yee hah! I wish I were in Minnesota, rather than next door. At least we already have Feingold.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 01:43 PM
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64. I lived in Minnesota when Coleman ran...
..And I can safely say that there are few folks I respect LESS than Norm Coleman. It would make me very happy to see Coleman beaten soundly in 08.

This makes it paramount that whoever the Dems nominate is the best candidate possible.

Coleman is slick. He used to be a Democrat. He has family scandals up the gazoo and is just about as sleazy as they get. Having seen him in action, he is a master of the slick phrase and of bs'ing his way through debates.

It is by no means true that he will be easily defeated, regardless of his kissing up to Bush. He already is trying to distance himself from him. So watch out.

He won in a fluke, after Wellstone died. Wellstone had risen above him in the polls and looked like he was gonna win. Then he died in that fated plane crash. Mondale could have won, except one of the speeches at Wellstone's funeral got too "political" and it led to a HUGE backlash among folks who thought the funeral was being used for political purposes, something that goes against Minnesotan sensibilities. Without that speech, and the backlash that ensued, Coleman would probably have been defeated.

While I like Franken, he is the type of candidate that Coleman could demonize as being a "libral". Which may be Coleman's best hope of getting reelected. He certainly can't campaign on his record....
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 01:46 PM
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66. Go Al!
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NobleCynic Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 01:52 PM
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67. Hmm...
My serious side says go for it. He is knowledgeable and very politically acute. He is a strong liberal with a backbone. He is a lot closer to what our party should be than most of our elected Dems.

My practical side asks if he is electable. Then I remember these folk elected Jesse Ventura. Anything is possible.

My jokester side says about frickin time. He's been slaughtering comedy for so long now, he simply HAS to stop. Any other profession Al. Please. You're just not funny anymore. You started taking politics too seriously for a comedian a long time ago. I don't blame Al, given how badly the Bush Administration has screwed this country, one has to take it seriously. But I don't think he can ever truly go back to comedy. He has become too invested emotionally in politics to be funny.
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AndreaCG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 04:39 PM
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92. I love Franken's show
When Katherine Lampher left he dropped a lot of the comedy bits, most of which were so-so IMO. He also has cut back his time with his RW friend, unless I just miss the segments due to work.

Al has THE BEST GUESTS, even better than Olbermann's, since some of Olbermann's are wishy washy journalists.

I wish whoever takes over AL's spot decides to use some of his regulars, especially Conason.
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 08:22 AM
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112. As one of "these folk", I not sure I'm entirely in love with your tone.
I would hesitate to call Jesse a great politician, but he wasn't half bad. And he stuck to his word, doing one term and getting out. I would vote for him again in a heartbeat as opposed to the POS we currently have, I can't stand Tim Buhlinky. Hook a generator to the man's eyelids and we could shut down the Monticello reactor.

I will welcome Al as our Senator, if only to spare you from having to seek him out in order to disparage his humor.
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 02:08 PM
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72. Coleman's an asshat
snip

That list of contributors prompted Coleman to say that Franken "obviously has a sense of humor" by calling his PAC Midwest Values.

"Hollywood values aren't Midwest," Coleman said, "and the money isn't Midwest."

/snip

Oh really Rat Teeth?

What about your wife?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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HappyWeasel Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 02:15 PM
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77. Well,...
deep down I think we could be sending a clown to do a man's job, but I also feel deep down that if there ever was a man for the job, it would be him.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 03:05 PM
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82. Rat Teeth?
looks like a mouth full of Chiclets from here.
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 05:07 PM
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93. Yeah, those might as well be Chiclets.
They're caps.

As for rat teeth, I was referring to his dumpster diving episode.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 06:31 PM
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95. I forgot about that
He must have been pretty hungry.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 04:50 AM
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109. Apparently he did not pay his dentist, so the dentist posted his REAL teeth online.. Take a look
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 04:53 AM
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110. Normie's wife is a piece of work
from Bartcop



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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 04:11 PM
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119. Yikes!
That's not much of an improvement.

:shudder:
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Taylor Mason Powell Donating Member (681 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 02:33 PM
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78. Cheers to Al!
Al is awesome. I will be definitely sending money to his campaign. Someday I think he could be our first Jewish president!

/dreaming
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 03:47 PM
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88. Charles Schumer will be the first Jewish president.
He rocks the house.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 03:05 PM
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83. I'll be the only New York Jew in the race who actually grew up in Minnesota
wildtown!
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 03:13 PM
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85. I think he'll beat Coleman easily
Mondale only lost because of that stupid flap over Wellstone's funeral - and that was in more Repuke times.
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flying_wahini Donating Member (856 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 06:34 PM
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96. and doggonet people love him,,,,, I know I do....
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 07:13 PM
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97. Minnesota deserves a good senator.
And Al Franken will make a fine senator. I saw him at a Bernie Sanders fundraiser and loved him.
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Contrite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 02:55 AM
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123. We had a good senator.
In fact, we had two of them. One, they killed. The other, they tried to.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 09:10 PM
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100. Good luck to Al. I'm grateful for his contribution to progressive radio. n/t
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 04:07 AM
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108. Can he win?
I think a lot of us who read The Truth (with jokes) got the impression that he was thinking of a run at politics but does anyone think he can actually win?

Granted, Al is an intelligent man with a firm handle on the issues, he writes well and I'm told he's very eloquent as a speaker. I don't doubt he'd make a fine senator if he won. But, on the other hand (and these may seem superficial but you can guarentee they will matter to some people), he's Jewish, not especially attractive, almost worships Clinton, he's spent most of his career making people laugh and on some things (gay rights for example), he's very liberal.

Those who are comparing his chances to those of Jesse Ventura have missed the nature of wrestling in the modern day. People like to belittle and ridicule wrestling, mainly from intellectual snobbery. It's interesting that wrestling fans don't do this to followers of other sports. Hey, I don't see what's so entertaining about 22 men chasing an inflated pig's bladder around a field but if you like it, go for it. They seem to see wrestling as some big con put over on the general public. It's not. Everyone knows that the matches are rigged (NOT fake, never call it "fake" around me), everyone knows that the winners are predetermined, wrestling promotions have made no bones about that for years. Yes, during the show, everyone acts like it's for real, that's called trying to maintain suspension of disbelief. When you watch a movie, you know that the actors aren't really being shot or whatever but it would spoil the film if they got up and walked around after taking a full clip in the chest.

Ventura was never much of a wrestler but he was charismatic. He had that "it" factor which made people pay attention and in modern wrestling, it doesn't matter whether people love you or hate you, as long as they care enough to put down money to watch you perform. Ventura learned, in wrestling, how to draw in an audience (and, in fairness, he was one of the best at it), get them to believe in what he was saying and doing (at least, until the show was over). Doubtless, it's more difficult in politics where the audience aren't actively suspending their disbelief to enjoy the show but the principle is the same: Learning how to convince those watching you. This is no different than what politicians do but Ventura never played a comedy character. His character ("gimmick") was always dead serious. Al Franken has made a career out of getting people not to take him seriously. His books contain plenty of serious information but it's all delivered in such a way as to be amusing.

I'd like to think he can win but being unabashedly liberal on the hot-button topics of today (gay rights, abortion, etc), can he actually win?
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eyepaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 09:24 AM
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114. Yeah, he can win,
Edited on Fri Feb-02-07 09:27 AM by eyepaddle
I'm not guaranteeing a win--but it is very possible. Taking into account his opposition I'd go so far as to say likely. Norm Coleman is also Jewish--as was his predecessor Paul Wellstone--as was HIS predecessor Rudy Boschwitz. If I'm not mistaken the Wellstone/Boschwitz race was the first time in US history that two Jewish candidates squared off against each other in a senate race. The irony that such a contest occured in nordic-lutheran MINNESOTA of all places was not lost on the candidates! when Paul and Rudy came to my college to talk Paul Wellstone pointed this out and got pretty good laughs out of it--even from the republicans in the audience.

It's hard to say exactly why (because no, we are NOT free from bigotry here in the North Star state) but Jewish candidates have no real problems being elected as our Senators--I can't think of any who have gone to the House though--or even the governor's mansion, but the senate? No problem.

The gay rights, and environmental positions will play very well in the Twin Cities Metro Area Jim Ramstad, (our most metropolitan Republican Representative) is pretty moderate on social issues and generally gets pretty good marks on his environmental voting> The metro repubs tend to be the more fiscal ones and not so much the in the Brownback mold. Al's apparent good relationship to Jim Oberstar will play VERY well on the Iron Range (the area between Lake Superior and the Canadian border) which is so utterly blue it's amazing--albeit also strongly interested in hunting/fishing issues, as well as a bit more socially conservative. If Al dominates these two regions, he wins.

An especially interesting thing to consider, the SE Minnesota--which was one of the reddest parts of the state just bounced Gil Guttknecht and sent Tim Walz to congress.

Al will have to play his cards right, to be sure--but I have zero doubt that it is possible.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 09:07 PM
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120. Gives me some hope, cheers n/t
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 09:56 PM
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126. No, they do not ...

No, before Smackdown they do not announce "The winners are predetermined and the participants are only actors." No, they do an awful lot to keep the image of "real" to the naive. Wrestlers have been known to harm people who called their craft "fake". Lets remember the primary audience for this garbage is young male adolescents (young and dumb and full of cum).

Now, here is MY problem with "pro" wrestling. They show VERY violent things that would get you seriously harmed if you actually performed the stunts. Furthermore, they do not show the byproducts of violence as they portray.

Some people say that MMA is brutal. I agree, but it is honest. Men get messed upand get knocked out. Pro wrestling portrays brutal, but the end of the match shows an unharmed combatant being pinned.

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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 09:45 AM
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115. I hope he sets a precedent. Jon Stewart. Stephen Colbert
Robin Williams. Alec Baldwin. Sean Penn. Tim Robbins. Susan Sarandon. Jane Fonda. I'd take all of these people over the fake conservatives in Congress who bow down to the religious right.
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 10:04 AM
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116. Go Al!
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