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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 07:16 PM
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London Bombers Tied to Al Qaeda Plot in Pakistan
London Bombers Tied to Al Qaeda Plot in Pakistan

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Connection to Al Qaeda Plot in Pakistan

Officials tell ABC News the London bombers have been connected to an al Qaeda plot planned two years ago in the Pakistani city of Lahore.

The laptop computer of Naeem Noor Khan, a captured al Qaeda leader, contained plans for a coordinated series of attacks on the London subway system, as well as on financial buildings in both New York and Washington.

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Security officials tell ABC News they have discovered links between the eldest of the London bombers, Mohammed Sadique Khan, 30, and the original group in Luton. Officials also believe it was not a coincidence the subway bombers all met at the Luton train station last week.

"It is very likely this group was activated last year after the other group was arrested," Debat said.

more...

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/LondonBlasts/story?id=940198&...

Thanks to krkaufman for finding this in GD

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 07:24 PM
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1. Folks this involves the outting of another operative...... see link
Edited on Thu Jul-14-05 07:29 PM by IChing
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 07:27 PM
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2. This is the same Naeem Noor Khan who was LEAKED last year!
Here's are some snippets of gold:

In the week of July 26, the week of the Democratic National Convention, the Bush administration made a decision to announce a heightened security alert for those buildings in Washington, D.C., and New York City. Tom Ridge made the announcement on Sunday, Aug. 1, and there was then a background briefing for reporters.

The Ridge announcement raised the question of where the information on the surveillance of the buildings had come from. Late Sunday afternoon, Aug. 1, the entire national press corps worked the phones furiously, checking with government officials about where Ridge had gotten his tip. The Boston Globe managed to get through to a CIA analyst, who knew the story of Khan's arrest but refused to give out the specific name.

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The point remains that had Ridge not made his announcement, the press would have had no occasion to go searching for the source of his information. The Bush administration decision to go public put a powerful spotlight on the Pakistani arrests of June and July.

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The Bush administration at the very least bears indirect responsibility for the outing of Khan. Without the Ridge announcement, reporters would have had no incentive to seek out the name of the source of the information.

more...

http://www.antiwar.com/cole/?articleid=3382

Thanks again to krkaufman.
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 07:35 PM
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5. My number one leaker suspect: DICK CHENEY.
What makes me suspect him most is the Pakistan connection. Dick's been in bed with them since he was Secretary of Defense in 1989. Seymour Hersh knows all about it:

http://www.newyorker.com/archive/content/?040119fr_arch...
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 07:29 PM
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3. recommended ...just posted in the other links
bombers connected to earlier cell arrested last year
ABC News, citing unidentified officials, reported that the attacks were connected to an al-Qaida plot planned two years ago in Lahore, Pakistan. Names on a computer that authorities seized last year from Muhammad Naeem Noor Khan, an alleged Pakistani computer expert for al-Qaida, matched a suspected cell of young Britons of Pakistani origin, most of whom lived near Luton, where the alleged suicide bombers met up on their way to London shortly before last week's blasts, according to the report.

Authorities have now discovered ties between Mohammed Sidique Khan one of the July 7 bombers and members of that cell who were arrested last year, ABC said.

FBI agents in Raleigh, N.C., joined the search for the chemist, Magdy Asi el-Nashar, a 33-year-old former North Carolina State University graduate student. The doors were locked Thursday at the building at Leeds University where he recently taught chemistry.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=940413...

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http://sync.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.p...
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 07:40 PM
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6. Thanks maddezmom!
Isn't it amazing how all this scandal is breaking at once?!

:bounce:
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 07:45 PM
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15. and the MSM is acutally reporting it
:D
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 07:30 PM
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4. You mean yet another terrorist attack NOT linked to Iraq?
Golly gee, BushCo and his media partners in crime were all so willing to pin the blame on an Iraq connection, eg, Iraqi explosives, Zarqawi links, et al. Guess they were wrong again, even though they wished SO hard. Hell, Rummy was even willing to pin it on Iran!

Just goes to show, folks, when looking for terrorist plots, don't bother with our enemies -- it's always our "allies", like Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, those paragons of democracy and freedom.
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madhat Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 07:42 PM
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7.  Bush admin may be responsible for botching effort to thwart London bombin
From AMERICABLOG

"ABC News just reported that the British authorities say they have evidence that the London attacks last week were an operation planned by Al Qaeda for the last two years. This was an operation the Brits thought they caught and stopped in time, but they were wrong. The piece of the puzzle ABC missed is that this is an operation the Bush administration helped botch last year."

1. The London bombers, per ABC, are connected to an Al Qaeda plot planned two years ago in Lahore, Pakistan.

2. Pakistani authorities recovered the laptop of a captured Al Qaeda leader, Mohammed Naeem Noor Khan, on July 13, 2004. On that laptop, they found plans for a coordinated series of attacks on the London subway. According to an expert interviewed by ABC, "there is absolutely no doubt that Khan was part of a worldwide Al Qaeda operation, not just in the United States but also in Great Britain and throughout the west."

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4. Those arrests were the arrests that the Bush administration botched by announcing a heightened security alert the week of the Democratic Convention. Because the US let the cat out of the bag, the media got a hold of Khan's name, his Al Qaeda contacts found out he was co-opted, and they fled. The Brits had to have a high speed chase to catch some of them as they fled, and, according to press reports, the Brits and Pakistanis both fear that some slipped away.

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/07/bush-admin-may-...
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 07:42 PM
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8. Maybe? I think they were.
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Guckert Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 07:42 PM
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9. Wont hear this on Faux News.....
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Beaver Tail Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 07:42 PM
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10. Oh Hell
Edited on Thu Jul-14-05 07:38 PM by Beaver Tail
The Brits are gonna be screaming bloody murder over this

Mohammed Naeem Noor Khan was outed by the US last year by Chimpboy and the chimpettes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Naeem_Noor_Khan

Way to Go Chimp Boy
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 07:42 PM
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13. Kinda makes ya wonder who is in charge of the terrorists, huh?
The bu$h administration comes to my mind.
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 07:42 PM
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11. Hell they've botched everything else they've done
Is this a surprise?


Keiths Barbeque Central
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 07:42 PM
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12. How do you like him now Blair?
Blair had better distance himself... and fast if he wants to have any hope of keeping his peeps safe.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 07:44 PM
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14. This Administration is a herd of BULLS IN A CHINA SHOP!
How much more damage are we going to allow them to do to this planet and its people before we toss them out on their sorry asses?

Hopefully NO MORE. This makes me livid (as if you can't already tell).
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 07:52 PM
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16. I don't suppose
there's any point in saying, "This is huge!!" <sigh>
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 07:57 PM
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17. August 9, 2004; bush administration compromises UK operation
Newsweek reports that a "knowledgeable British source" says Bush administration officials "compromised an ongoing surveillance operation that ultimately could have uncovered more about al Qaeda operations around the world" by raising the terror threat last week and publicly revealing new intelligence they had found.

Some have questioned whether the warnings were politically motivated to strengthen Bush's image as commander in chief in an election year.

British Home Secretary David Blunkett said in a statement reported by Reuters there was "a difference between alerting the public to a specific threat and alarming people unnecessarily by passing on information indiscriminately."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/08/09/national/main...

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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 08:06 PM
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18. US leak 'harms al Qaeda sting' - Aug 9, 2004
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Tai-chi Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 08:11 PM
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19. Ten Step Method To Staging a Terrorist Attack
Does Anyone Really Believe This Horseshit?
British authorities finger patsies within days of bombings, country drinks it up, and its like Dj vu all over again

by Brian Richards

LONDON, ENGLAND -- (OfficialWire) -- 07/14/05 -- Give me a break. Four young men, maybe five though one chap remains a secret at present, simply decided to blow themselves up in support of a cause none of them had ever previously mentioned to their families, friends or anyone who knew them. Does that sound right?

In fact, UK intelligence agencies had never heard of these guys. They, the alleged London bombers, had everything to live for and no motive in becoming suicide bombers. Do you believe that?

Before you sign onto the government's official story, read a recent article by Paul Joseph Watson, How the Government Staged the London Bombings in Ten Easy Steps. The truth will set you free.

Ten Step Method To Staging a Terrorist Attack

1. Hire a Crisis Management firm to set up an exercise that parallels the terrorist attack you are going to carry out. Have them run the exercise at the precise locations and at the very same time as the attack. If at any stage of the attack your Arabs get caught, tell the police it was part of an exercise.

2. Hire four Arabs and tell them they're taking part in an important exercise to help defend London from terrorist attacks. Strap them with rucksacks filled with deadly explosives. Tell the Arabs the rucksacks are dummy explosives and wouldn't harm a fly.

3. Tell four Arabs to meet up at London Underground and disperse, each getting on a different train. Make sure Arabs meet in a location where you can get a good mug shot of them all on CCTV which you can later endlessly repeat to drooling masses on television.

4. While four Arabs are in London, plant explosives in their houses in Leeds. Plant some explosives in one of their cars in Luton for the police to later discover. Remember that Qu'ran and flight manual in the hijackers' car? Ha ha, they fell for that one hook, line and sinker. No need to change tactics on this one.

5. Before the bombings take place, make sure you warn any of your buddies who are scheduled to be anywhere near where the bombs go off. If this gets leaked to the press, just deny it.

6. 4th Arab goes out partying in London night before and ends up getting out of bed late. No worries, the 9/11 'hijackers' did the same thing but that didn't cause us a big problem. 4th Arab catches bus to see if other Arabs are waiting for him. 4th Arab starts hearing about explosions in the London Underground. 4th Arab comes to the realization that this he is being set up and freaks out. 4th Arab starts fiddling in his rucksack. 4th Arab sets bomb off and is blown up.

If you hired any additional Arabs and they also got wind of the set up, make sure there are GPS locators in the rucksacks so you can have police snipers ready to kill them before they can blow the whistle.

7. After the bombs go off, put out a story for over an hour that the explosions are a simple electrical fault. This gives you cover time to make sure the lazy bus Arab is dead and any other hired Arabs who reneged are also dead. Make sure any CCTV footage that doesn't support your official story is either seized or destroyed.

8. A few hours after the bombings, have one of your boys post an 'Al-Qaeda statement' claiming responsibility. Don't worry about the whole 'misreferencing the Qu'ran' thing, these idiots don't have the attention spans to figure it out.

9. After you have made sure that all the Arabs are dead and you are managing the story accordingly, wait for four days until the police piece together the story and find the explosives you planted in Leeds and in the car in Luton. Remember that Qu'ran and flight manual in the hijackers' car? Ha ha, they fell for that one hook, line and sinker. No need to change tactics this time either. The time delay will convince the gullible public that a real investigation is taking place. Create a background of the hired Arabs being militant Muslims. The drooling masses, as was the case with the '9/11 hijackers,' will ignore stories of neighbors saying they were the quiet, educated types who liked children and playing sports.

BBC excerpt: One local resident described him as "a nice lad".

"He liked to play football, he liked to play cricket. I'm shocked."

Another resident said he was just a "normal kid" who played basketball and kicked a ball around.

10. Sit back and enjoy as Blair and his minions grandstand in front of television cameras about staying the course in the war on terror. The pay raise, extra agency funding, and power to strip more freedoms and liberties made the ten easy steps to staging a terrorist attack a worthwhile venture. The dozens of dead people were necessary collateral damage. This is a dirty war, we need to be less moral than the terrorists to defeat them.


And that's how the government staged the bombings in ten easy steps.

Granted, you can interchange different pieces of the puzzle. The bombers could be real terrorists that knew exactly what they were doing. All you would need to do is control the 'mastermind' behind the attack and make sure his boys carried out the job in the way you wanted. Voila.

http://news.baou.com/main.php?action=recent&rid=20340
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