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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 04:51 AM
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Mystery surrounds Yushchenko ailment
Edited on Thu Nov-25-04 04:55 AM by Poll_Blind
Mystery surrounds Yushchenko ailment

VIENNA, Austria (AP) -- What ails Viktor Yushchenko? As Ukraine's popular pro-Western opposition leader claimed victory Tuesday in hotly contested presidential elections, the mystery surrounding an appearance-altering illness that twice prompted him to check into a Vienna hospital persisted.

Yushchenko accused the Ukrainian authorities of poisoning him. His detractors suggested he'd eaten some bad sushi.

<SNIP>

Adding to the intrigue, the Austrian doctors who treated him have asked foreign experts to help determine if his symptoms may have been caused by toxins found in biological weapons.

<SNIP>

But the illness, whatever it was, has dramatically changed his appearance since he first sought treatment at Vienna's private Rudolfinerhaus clinic on September 10.

Known for his ruggedly handsome, almost movie star looks, Yushchenko's complexion is now pockmarked. His face is haggard, swollen and partially paralyzed. One eye often tears up.

<SNIP>



Yushchenko pictured left in July 2004 and in November, after his illness. (Picture AP)

What the....? !

PB
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 04:57 AM
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1. Satan musta left ole georgie boy and found himself a new host.
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ilovenicepeople Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 01:07 PM
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14. This brave man is trying to stop evil, he does not support Satan,
What's wrong are you jealous that the Ukraine has the balls to stand up for it's democracy?
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 02:00 AM
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18. oh cool your jets...
it was a friggin joke.
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 05:07 AM
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2. Yow! Poor thing!
Are you sure those are both the same man? Holy smokes! If he says hes being poisoned I bet he is. He was gorgeous! Yipes! What the hell has the world rolled around to, that people do this to each other?
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 12:46 AM
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47. Doesn't look like the same guy to me...even AFTER poison.
Maybe they DID kill the original guy with poison, and replaced him with a "Western-leaning" candidate that they felt would better 'fill' the job.

Very suspicious. The first guy looked kind of nice, while the "current face" looks down-right mean...more like someone Bushco would 'allign' themselves with.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 05:27 AM
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3. ...
here's a pic of him on Monday



and here's one from 2002

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Ima Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 05:35 AM
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4. This is terrible
He does look like he was poisoned or exposed to something. Poor thing. I hope they find out what did it and the antidote.
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Jack_DeLeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 05:51 AM
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5. I dont doubt it was poison or a chemicle of some sort...
the Russians have made good use of bio/chem weapons for assassiniations.

Anyone remember that one case where some guy was stick with an umbrella and it injected into him a tiny ball filled with ricin. He died later. Was back in the 60s or 70s.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 06:53 AM
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7. That was a story told abut Richard Wright
Author of Black Boy and Native Son. It's never been proven, as far as I've heard. Wright was living in Paris, he came down with some sudden illness and died, and the story of the umbrella started circulating.

Don't know if that's the same story you mean.
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Mr Creosote Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 07:01 AM
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8. No I'm sure he means
the assassination of Georgi Markov , the Bulgarian dissident, in London in the late 70s ('78?). He was indeed stabbed with a poison-tipped umbrella. Died more or less immediately I think.
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KDLarsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 09:57 AM
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21. I think it took him longer
He was taken to the hospital & suffered some serious pains from the ricin, before dying a few days later.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 06:15 AM
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6. It reminds me of the awful post kalaazar syndrome pics
in my undergrad parasitology textbook.

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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 11:54 AM
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12. Some specialists have suspected Cloracne
and having seen it, it does remind me of it a bit.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 07:08 AM
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9. that picture has been photoshopped
I saw him and he does indeed look bad. But that picture has been photoshopped.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 11:30 AM
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10. Nope, there are more pictures at the CNN site like this. n/t
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boi1946 Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 11:35 AM
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11. Medics out there...
Neurofibromatosis????
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 12:37 PM
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13. Looks like that to me
I wonder about the relatively rapid onslaught though.
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 01:15 PM
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16. This late in life
I thought you need to be born with that. That's the elephantman disease right?
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:09 AM
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50. might it be lupus erythema dermatosis or pemphigus?
or perhaps some other severe autoimmune reaction to environmental chemicals or antibiotics. Otherwise I'm going for poison. They tried to do it to Fidel. Why not in the Ukraine? Altho it is just as likely to be someone local who did it, if it was "done"

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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 03:00 PM
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29. look at the cigar...it is fake
I have seen him and he looks bad, but this pic is photoshopped.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 05:04 PM
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35. That's not a cigar, it is a microphone.
Look closely.
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 01:12 PM
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15. Holy crap
:wtf:
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 01:38 PM
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17. How much of a leap would it be to say he clearly looks poisoned?
Jesus, every time I see the picture it looks like...I dunno, I dunno if poisoning in the conventional sense has taken place or he has been infected with some agent or agents. This man is being attacked biologically. That much is clear. I have no idea what the superpowes have cooked up over the years in their underground labs but I would imagine they would have some pretty evil shit.

PB
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burn the bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 07:29 AM
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19. looks like radiation poisoning or something like that
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proudbluestater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 09:12 AM
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20. Horrible! SOMETHING has happened!
He looks like a handsome young man, quickly morphed into Buddy Hackett! Horrible!
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 10:21 AM
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22. More before and after photos




Photo taken 11/26/04



WOULDN'T IT BE NICE IF KERRY COULD LEAD US IN PROTEST!!??

http://www.mosnews.com/news/2004/11/23/yushchenkomarch.shtml

Yuschenko Leads March to Presidential Administration Building

Opposition candidate for Ukrainian president, Viktor Yushchenko, led thousand of demonstrators in a march to the president’s office in Kyiv, Russian Information Agency Novosti reported on Tuesday.

Earlier, Yushchenko read presidential oath in the building of the Ukrainian parliament. According to the preliminary information provided by the Central Election Commission, he lost the elections to the pro-Russian candidate, current prime minister Viktor Yanukovich.
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merci_me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 08:42 PM
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38. It seems odd
that there is such a change to the skin on his face, yet the skin on his hands looks relatively smooth.

Wouldn't some sort of poison in his system that effects the face also show some change to his hands? Unless it was a localized "burn". Laser beam?



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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 07:37 PM
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23. Scleroderma?
Does anyone know?
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 07:44 PM
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24. Unbelievably horrible!!! THE US MUST SPEAK OUT!
Ok Bushie... Act like a nazi for our team for once.
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Ima Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 07:49 PM
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25. He is...belive it or not.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 07:51 PM
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26. Have you been sleeping?
Bush is very upset about voter FRAUD-in Ukraine.
:eyes:
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 08:04 PM
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27. That picture contrast is stunning.
His color has changed too.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 02:52 PM
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28. They messed him up bad:
Edited on Sat Nov-27-04 02:55 PM by Algorem
Those BASTARDS!
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sally343434 Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 03:12 PM
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31. The pix on the right is Steve Kroft of CBS.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 03:35 PM
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32. That's JUST what they want you to think.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 04:18 PM
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34. bad misguided joke or freep?
hmmmmmm?

you should have changed the addy - too easy.

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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 03:06 PM
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30. I've never seen such a drastic change like this. The right picture
looks like Jelly from Analyze This
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LifeDuringWartime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 03:37 PM
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33. the evil dead
its like the evil dead has taken posession of him, but only his skin.

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Sara Beverley Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 06:30 PM
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36. Would you want a leader who looked like that?
Something is up. That nation is headed toward civil war and the US is helping the war along. They want Russia engaged in military expense that will thwart any gains they have made or are making economically. We know for sure how war has ruined our economy and how it ruined the USSR and ultimately defeated them. The only way to ensure that Russia does not rise again is to keep them on the war path.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 06:34 PM
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37. I don't know what had happened to him, but one would think
if he was really poisoned, he would be dead.
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wordout Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 09:04 PM
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39. probably got it from bush's ass cheeks
surprise he doesnt have a widdle brown button nose!
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 09:23 PM
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40. Everyone read this
This sounds sooo much like our country it's creepy.
http://www.cpod.ubc.ca/tracker/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewItem&itemID=2591
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 11:42 PM
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44. it would be nice if Lugar were as concerned with
the validity of the elections in the USoA.

from your link:

U.S. senator Richard Lugar—the chairman of the U.S. Senate’s Foreign Relations Committee—declared in Kiev that "a concerted and forceful program of election-day fraud and abuse" had taken place in Ukraine. The EU also demanded an urgent evaluation of the results.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 10:17 PM
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41. And what was Arafat's strange illness before death?
Is my mine just working overtime connecting these two
illnesses?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 10:29 PM
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shesemsmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 10:52 PM
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43. Judging from his color looks like liver failure
which would go hand in hand with toxic poisoning
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Califooyah Operative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 11:42 PM
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45. OTHER PICS/LINKS
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Califooyah Operative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 11:43 PM
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46. brrrrrrr that's a cold war. nt
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juliagoolia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 12:47 AM
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48. YIKES Before After.. 5 months later......
Viktor Yushchenko (left) as he appeared in July 2004 and (right) as he appeared in November after the alleged poisoning
(Gleb Garanich/Vasily Fedosenko/Reuters)
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alexisfree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 12:51 AM
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49. He might be a lizard like bush except he wants to help his people by ...
working together...
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Traction Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:50 AM
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51. Anyone into Star Wars?
He looks totally like Sen. Palpatine's transformation into the Emperor! In fact it's so alike it's scary!
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