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Sat Apr-30-11 02:22 AM
Response to Reply #38 |
| 155. That is quite literally what democracy means. |
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All of those things you mention flow from a democratically elected system of government.
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| -Pissed Off About The Royal Wedding |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 01:24 PM |
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We've been up since half past three this morning. I love watching these events, |
secondwind |
Apr-29-11 01:26 PM |
#1 |
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I LOVED every minute of it |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Apr-29-11 06:21 PM |
#117 |
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good rant. It's that Exceptionalism thing, ya know. :) |
Whisp |
Apr-29-11 01:28 PM |
#2 |
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No, it's not. |
Youth Uprising |
Apr-29-11 03:08 PM |
#66 |
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British democracy does not predate US democracy |
whoneedstickets |
Apr-29-11 01:29 PM |
#3 |
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Magna Carta dates from 1215. Get real. |
sinkingfeeling |
Apr-29-11 01:33 PM |
#10 |
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Check your facts, the Magna Carta had nothing to do democracy |
whoneedstickets |
Apr-29-11 01:44 PM |
#23 |
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I don't agree with your definition that it does mean selection of representatives through election. |
sinkingfeeling |
Apr-29-11 02:19 PM |
#38 |
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Sorry, your definition is wrong. it is a form of decision making.. |
whoneedstickets |
Apr-29-11 02:26 PM |
#39 |
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Well, there's a whole lot of folks around the world who don't agree with you. |
sinkingfeeling |
Apr-29-11 02:39 PM |
#48 |
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Doubtlessly, many societies incorporated democratic decision making rules... |
whoneedstickets |
Apr-29-11 02:48 PM |
#53 |
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That is quite literally what democracy means. |
Maven |
Apr-30-11 02:22 AM |
#155 |
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British democracy... |
murphyj87 |
Apr-29-11 01:38 PM |
#16 |
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Really? |
whoneedstickets |
Apr-29-11 01:57 PM |
#35 |
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Hang on |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 02:49 PM |
#54 |
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An elected government with real governing power! |
whoneedstickets |
Apr-29-11 03:01 PM |
#64 |
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"A legislative body that makes policy on behalf of it's electors" |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 03:04 PM |
#65 |
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Yes, it does |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 01:53 PM |
#33 |
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early and unrecognized gathering don't count as 'British Democracy' |
whoneedstickets |
Apr-29-11 02:05 PM |
#37 |
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Not long after the pilgrims landed the British were under direct Parliamentarian rule |
jberryhill |
Apr-29-11 02:41 PM |
#50 |
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By a parliament that they didn't select! |
whoneedstickets |
Apr-29-11 02:59 PM |
#63 |
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You're making up your own definition |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 02:54 PM |
#57 |
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The bill of rights makes no mention of representation.. |
whoneedstickets |
Apr-29-11 03:15 PM |
#73 |
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It remove3s the monarch from any sort of power over the law |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 03:20 PM |
#77 |
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It's not a damn technicality, it's not tested, it is very real. Canada knows all too well. |
joshcryer |
Apr-29-11 06:18 PM |
#116 |
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Oi, here's British Constitution 101 |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 06:45 PM |
#122 |
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The fact that such a possiblity exists should bother you. |
joshcryer |
Apr-29-11 06:50 PM |
#124 |
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Republicanism is alive and well here |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 07:11 PM |
#128 |
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i'd say the twenties... |
patrick t. cakes |
Apr-29-11 11:56 PM |
#150 |
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Having a hereditary monarch makes as much sense as a hereditary accountant. |
laconicsax |
Apr-29-11 01:29 PM |
#4 |
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Maybe but it's our tradition |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 01:57 PM |
#36 |
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Don't let my dissagreement above leave you thinking |
whoneedstickets |
Apr-29-11 02:32 PM |
#43 |
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Thank you |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 02:55 PM |
#59 |
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Totally. Don't let some harrumphers here ruin your day! This was a WONDERFUL day! |
calimary |
Apr-29-11 03:26 PM |
#83 |
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But is it a tradition that serves a useful purpose? |
laconicsax |
Apr-29-11 07:53 PM |
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Hmm |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 08:00 PM |
#141 |
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Dupe, please delete. |
laconicsax |
Apr-29-11 07:53 PM |
#139 |
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The main difference... |
murphyj87 |
Apr-29-11 01:30 PM |
#5 |
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You got it! |
riverbendviewgal |
Apr-29-11 01:49 PM |
#29 |
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Actually, Canada and the US is sort of like Southern and Northern California. |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-29-11 02:41 PM |
#51 |
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Oh Canada! |
a la izquierda |
Apr-29-11 02:58 PM |
#62 |
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We have royalty - they're called celebrities. |
GomezLives |
Apr-29-11 01:31 PM |
#6 |
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I wish we had half the dignity of the British. It doesn't matter what country I go to, I can |
sinkingfeeling |
Apr-29-11 01:31 PM |
#7 |
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In america when something is totally useless, we throw it away. |
CBGLuthier |
Apr-29-11 01:31 PM |
#8 |
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Are you serious? |
Arugula Latte |
Apr-29-11 01:33 PM |
#9 |
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And very often, wasteful as many of us are, we throw away still useful things. (nt) |
Heidi |
Apr-29-11 01:34 PM |
#12 |
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Name something. |
sinkingfeeling |
Apr-29-11 01:34 PM |
#13 |
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I will name your post, "Samuel." I have named something. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Apr-29-11 02:42 PM |
#52 |
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I spit out my latte |
leftynyc |
Apr-29-11 03:16 PM |
#75 |
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Of course there are |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 01:36 PM |
#14 |
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Then why... |
murphyj87 |
Apr-29-11 01:43 PM |
#22 |
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AWESOME!!! |
Rebubula |
Apr-29-11 02:33 PM |
#44 |
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As if you speak for all of Britain |
quinnox |
Apr-29-11 01:33 PM |
#11 |
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Oh wow, the "free speech" defence already |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 01:39 PM |
#17 |
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Why are you so surprised by this reaction |
quinnox |
Apr-29-11 01:49 PM |
#27 |
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No, I expected them to be ignoring it |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 01:55 PM |
#34 |
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So - watching a beautiful |
leftynyc |
Apr-29-11 03:21 PM |
#79 |
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The monarchy is a British tradition. |
Dawson Leery |
Apr-29-11 01:38 PM |
#15 |
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We abandoned "divine right" long ago |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 01:41 PM |
#18 |
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"(I) do not understand why there is so much fascination with them around the world." |
CJCRANE |
Apr-29-11 01:43 PM |
#21 |
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The "logic" that Britain at one time ruled much of the world does not hold |
Dawson Leery |
Apr-29-11 01:45 PM |
#25 |
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My guess |
CJCRANE |
Apr-29-11 01:49 PM |
#30 |
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As far as I'm concerned... |
pipi_k |
Apr-29-11 01:41 PM |
#19 |
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I agree with you... |
CJCRANE |
Apr-29-11 01:47 PM |
#26 |
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But most people here on DU |
NYC Liberal |
Apr-29-11 01:42 PM |
#20 |
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I'm not sure why the wall-to-wall coverage |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 01:45 PM |
#24 |
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I don't know why our media is so obsessed with the wedding |
XemaSab |
Apr-29-11 03:40 PM |
#89 |
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I love the Royals. This was a beautiful, dignified wedding and it makes |
polly7 |
Apr-29-11 01:49 PM |
#28 |
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There are some days |
Coyote_Bandit |
Apr-29-11 01:52 PM |
#31 |
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I watched it |
Mz Pip |
Apr-29-11 01:52 PM |
#32 |
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Do you mean "Americans" or..."DUers"? |
CJCRANE |
Apr-29-11 02:27 PM |
#40 |
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LOL, fair point |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 02:29 PM |
#42 |
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I don't understand why some people here feel annoyed by it. |
undeterred |
Apr-29-11 02:28 PM |
#41 |
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And that, I entirely understand |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 02:37 PM |
#46 |
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To me they're just people. |
undeterred |
Apr-29-11 05:46 PM |
#114 |
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I thought it was a gorgeous ceremony and I wish them all the best. |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Apr-29-11 02:36 PM |
#45 |
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K&R... |
SidDithers |
Apr-29-11 02:37 PM |
#47 |
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My advice? Let it go. |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-29-11 02:40 PM |
#49 |
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You're probably right |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 02:50 PM |
#55 |
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It doesn't matter what the topic is, someone will be along to complain about it. |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-29-11 02:56 PM |
#60 |
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I'm one American that watched it and enjoyed it. Best Wishes to William and Kate. nt |
Saturday |
Apr-29-11 02:51 PM |
#56 |
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If the Brits want royalty let them have it |
Mikeystyle |
Apr-29-11 02:54 PM |
#58 |
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Fair enough |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 02:57 PM |
#61 |
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delete..wrong place |
in_cog_ni_to |
Apr-29-11 03:09 PM |
#67 |
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And what about her sister..! |
CJCRANE |
Apr-29-11 03:43 PM |
#92 |
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I don't blame you for being angry. Some people hate everything. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Apr-29-11 03:10 PM |
#68 |
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Some hope of that |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 03:13 PM |
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I agree. They are starting out in love. Which is more than we can say for Charles and Diana. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Apr-29-11 03:17 PM |
#76 |
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I LOVED the wedding |
leftynyc |
Apr-29-11 03:12 PM |
#69 |
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I enjoyed watching it! |
Starry Messenger |
Apr-29-11 03:14 PM |
#71 |
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I just can't believe that baby got married! |
in_cog_ni_to |
Apr-29-11 03:20 PM |
#78 |
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28 years! Can't be possible! |
Starry Messenger |
Apr-29-11 03:25 PM |
#82 |
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K&R. nt |
City Lights |
Apr-29-11 03:15 PM |
#72 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Apr-29-11 03:15 PM |
#74 |
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We're not asking for the right to lecture you |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 03:22 PM |
#80 |
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I only argue the royalty points, |
RandomThoughts |
Apr-29-11 03:25 PM |
#81 |
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Just what this thead needed |
leftynyc |
Apr-29-11 03:28 PM |
#85 |
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And the OP was what? Saying it was American arrogance was a compliment? |
Fuzz |
Apr-29-11 03:34 PM |
#86 |
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For the record |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 03:39 PM |
#88 |
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I didn't think you did. It's the overly sensitive American types. |
Fuzz |
Apr-29-11 03:42 PM |
#91 |
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Good |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 04:02 PM |
#101 |
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The OP was right |
leftynyc |
Apr-29-11 03:41 PM |
#90 |
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It's not necessarily an opinion based on a feeling of superiority, it could just be |
Fuzz |
Apr-29-11 03:51 PM |
#95 |
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I go to Greece every summer |
leftynyc |
Apr-29-11 05:44 PM |
#112 |
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I go to Greece every summer |
leftynyc |
Apr-29-11 05:45 PM |
#113 |
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I haven't read |
H2O Man |
Apr-29-11 03:26 PM |
#84 |
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I can understand being annoyed at the media coverage |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 03:37 PM |
#87 |
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At least twenty percent of THE BRITISH would end the monarchy. |
JackRiddler |
Apr-29-11 03:46 PM |
#93 |
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How dare they slag off on their own traditions. |
Fuzz |
Apr-29-11 03:53 PM |
#96 |
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They live here |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 04:01 PM |
#99 |
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Again with the First Amendment |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 03:58 PM |
#97 |
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I hereby invite you to blast (in words) the Superbowl and Independence Day to your heart's content. |
JackRiddler |
Apr-29-11 04:01 PM |
#100 |
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Why bother? |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 04:04 PM |
#103 |
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As presently constituted & historically they are neither merely "odd" nor harmless. |
JackRiddler |
Apr-29-11 04:12 PM |
#107 |
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Trust me, I wouldn't |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 04:17 PM |
#109 |
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This is the same argument by which people justify the display of the Confederate flag, by the way. |
JackRiddler |
Apr-29-11 03:50 PM |
#94 |
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Apples and oranges |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 03:59 PM |
#98 |
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It's true that the Confederates never enslaved Ireland or India. |
JackRiddler |
Apr-29-11 04:03 PM |
#102 |
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Technically, nor did we |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 04:08 PM |
#104 |
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When the royals renounce the history of their own institution... |
JackRiddler |
Apr-29-11 04:10 PM |
#106 |
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Why? |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 04:13 PM |
#108 |
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As a member of DU may I please offer my agreement with your OP... |
Little Star |
Apr-29-11 04:09 PM |
#105 |
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It's ok, I'm over it now |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 04:22 PM |
#110 |
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I personally said nothing until this rude post. It was just as bad as any |
Fuzz |
Apr-29-11 11:40 PM |
#147 |
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I believe the royals work pretty hard. I was watching the documentary |
tblue37 |
Apr-29-11 05:27 PM |
#111 |
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I didn't see it |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 07:37 PM |
#134 |
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Your royalty are a complete waste of oxygen, like most wealthy who do nothing of any value |
alarimer |
Apr-29-11 05:53 PM |
#115 |
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They generate a stack of tourist revenue |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 07:35 PM |
#133 |
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Sounds like a variation of trickle down |
treestar |
Apr-29-11 07:46 PM |
#137 |
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Not really |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 07:53 PM |
#140 |
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How do you know they generate a lot of tourist revenue? |
Prometheus Bound |
Apr-30-11 02:27 AM |
#157 |
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This must be Big Ugly American Friday. n/t |
EFerrari |
Apr-29-11 06:24 PM |
#118 |
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Super Ugly. We'd be just as pissed if they were attacking our traditions. |
Snoutport |
Apr-29-11 06:32 PM |
#120 |
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Dear Brits, I'm sorry people are rude about the wedding, I'm sorry we make fun of your food and most |
Snoutport |
Apr-29-11 06:30 PM |
#119 |
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National apology for Victoria Beckham |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 07:13 PM |
#129 |
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Spotted Dick...snicker |
Snoutport |
Apr-29-11 11:03 PM |
#143 |
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The British Empire did not abolish slavery until 1873. |
joshcryer |
Apr-29-11 06:42 PM |
#121 |
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But slavery in Britain itself was abolished in 1807 |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 07:09 PM |
#127 |
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I just think its amusing that a country that spent 12,000 years throwing off the rule of Monarchy |
NeedleCast |
Apr-29-11 06:49 PM |
#123 |
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We spend a lot of time talking about soap operas too |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 07:17 PM |
#130 |
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+1. I just don't understand the vehemence. |
wickerwoman |
Apr-29-11 07:01 PM |
#125 |
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These cost up to 5000 pounds each (the hats) - |
TBF |
Apr-29-11 07:07 PM |
#126 |
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That's only a piddling $8355 a hat. About the yearly income of |
Zorra |
Apr-29-11 07:26 PM |
#131 |
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Which part would you like to discuss? |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 07:33 PM |
#132 |
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Yes, the oppulance on display while others are starving. |
TBF |
Apr-29-11 08:26 PM |
#142 |
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I'm not much on fashion |
treestar |
Apr-29-11 07:44 PM |
#136 |
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Though allies now, it brings out the one difference we have |
treestar |
Apr-29-11 07:40 PM |
#135 |
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Ah, but you still have an aristocracy |
Prophet 451 |
Apr-29-11 07:48 PM |
#138 |
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And we criticize the American 'royals' often here as well. |
Fuzz |
Apr-29-11 11:43 PM |
#148 |
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The wedding was beautiful. I enjoyed watching it very much. |
hardcover |
Apr-29-11 11:28 PM |
#144 |
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There's always been a lot of hate on DU |
Catherine Vincent |
Apr-29-11 11:36 PM |
#145 |
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It's not hate. It just has no meaning to us. |
Prometheus Bound |
Apr-30-11 01:55 AM |
#152 |
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I thought the wedding was magnificent |
TuxedoKat |
Apr-29-11 11:39 PM |
#146 |
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My problem isn't with the wedding, but the disgusting near-orgasmic reactions of the media |
Dappleganger |
Apr-29-11 11:46 PM |
#149 |
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I couldn't stand more than 10 minutes of it because of the commentators. |
Prometheus Bound |
Apr-30-11 12:33 AM |
#151 |
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Fortunately the opinions of cranks on DU do not reflect the opinions of "Americans" as a whole |
WildEyedLiberal |
Apr-30-11 02:03 AM |
#153 |
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The fact that you care and we care mean there is something special. |
DuaneBidoux |
Apr-30-11 02:20 AM |
#154 |
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Didn't it all seem rather churchy? |
Common Sense Party |
Apr-30-11 02:24 AM |
#156 |
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I watched Bill Mahrer and was very disappointed in his royal wedding commentary. |
DuaneBidoux |
Apr-30-11 02:28 AM |
#158 |
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