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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 05:44 PM
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112. I go to Greece every summer
to the islands where there are many Americans and many Europeans. We've made many friends there over the years and they're very open about how SOME Americans have a sense of entitlement and when things aren't exactly the way they are here (like, on the islands you can't put toilet paper in the toilet), they complain....loudly. But they (the Greeks) also complain about the Germans and the French, love the Italians and find the Brits a lot of fun. I do know that all those countries object to how many Americans just assume everyone speaks English. So I guess every country has their biases about others.

I live in NY and work in Manhattan so I see a lot of tourists here as well. I've had to remind some American tourists that the reason they're not hearing all English is that the UN is down the street and the city is filled with tourists - their assumption is that these are immigrants (probably illegal) who just refuse to learn English. So much of the biases are based on ignorance and a sense of superiority.
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  -Pissed Off About The Royal Wedding Prophet 451  Apr-29-11 01:24 PM   #0 
  - We've been up since half past three this morning. I love watching these events,  secondwind   Apr-29-11 01:26 PM   #1 
  - I LOVED every minute of it  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-29-11 06:21 PM   #117 
  - good rant. It's that Exceptionalism thing, ya know. :)  Whisp   Apr-29-11 01:28 PM   #2 
  - No, it's not.  Youth Uprising   Apr-29-11 03:08 PM   #66 
  - British democracy does not predate US democracy  whoneedstickets   Apr-29-11 01:29 PM   #3 
  - Magna Carta dates from 1215. Get real.  sinkingfeeling   Apr-29-11 01:33 PM   #10 
  - Check your facts, the Magna Carta had nothing to do democracy  whoneedstickets   Apr-29-11 01:44 PM   #23 
     - I don't agree with your definition that it does mean selection of representatives through election.  sinkingfeeling   Apr-29-11 02:19 PM   #38 
        - Sorry, your definition is wrong. it is a form of decision making..  whoneedstickets   Apr-29-11 02:26 PM   #39 
        - Well, there's a whole lot of folks around the world who don't agree with you.  sinkingfeeling   Apr-29-11 02:39 PM   #48 
           - Doubtlessly, many societies incorporated democratic decision making rules...  whoneedstickets   Apr-29-11 02:48 PM   #53 
        - That is quite literally what democracy means.  Maven   Apr-30-11 02:22 AM   #155 
  - British democracy...  murphyj87   Apr-29-11 01:38 PM   #16 
  - Really?  whoneedstickets   Apr-29-11 01:57 PM   #35 
     - Hang on  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 02:49 PM   #54 
        - An elected government with real governing power!  whoneedstickets   Apr-29-11 03:01 PM   #64 
           - "A legislative body that makes policy on behalf of it's electors"  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 03:04 PM   #65 
  - Yes, it does  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 01:53 PM   #33 
     - early and unrecognized gathering don't count as 'British Democracy'  whoneedstickets   Apr-29-11 02:05 PM   #37 
     - Not long after the pilgrims landed the British were under direct Parliamentarian rule  jberryhill   Apr-29-11 02:41 PM   #50 
     - By a parliament that they didn't select!  whoneedstickets   Apr-29-11 02:59 PM   #63 
     - You're making up your own definition  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 02:54 PM   #57 
        - The bill of rights makes no mention of representation..  whoneedstickets   Apr-29-11 03:15 PM   #73 
           - It remove3s the monarch from any sort of power over the law  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 03:20 PM   #77 
              - It's not a damn technicality, it's not tested, it is very real. Canada knows all too well.  joshcryer   Apr-29-11 06:18 PM   #116 
                 - Oi, here's British Constitution 101  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 06:45 PM   #122 
                    - The fact that such a possiblity exists should bother you.  joshcryer   Apr-29-11 06:50 PM   #124 
                       - Republicanism is alive and well here  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 07:11 PM   #128 
     - i'd say the twenties...  patrick t. cakes   Apr-29-11 11:56 PM   #150 
  - Having a hereditary monarch makes as much sense as a hereditary accountant.  laconicsax   Apr-29-11 01:29 PM   #4 
  - Maybe but it's our tradition  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 01:57 PM   #36 
     - Don't let my dissagreement above leave you thinking  whoneedstickets   Apr-29-11 02:32 PM   #43 
     - Thank you  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 02:55 PM   #59 
     - Totally. Don't let some harrumphers here ruin your day! This was a WONDERFUL day!  calimary   Apr-29-11 03:26 PM   #83 
     - But is it a tradition that serves a useful purpose?  laconicsax   Apr-29-11 07:53 PM   # 
     - Hmm  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 08:00 PM   #141 
     - Dupe, please delete.  laconicsax   Apr-29-11 07:53 PM   #139 
  - The main difference...  murphyj87   Apr-29-11 01:30 PM   #5 
  - You got it!  riverbendviewgal   Apr-29-11 01:49 PM   #29 
  - Actually, Canada and the US is sort of like Southern and Northern California.  Warren DeMontague   Apr-29-11 02:41 PM   #51 
  - Oh Canada!  a la izquierda   Apr-29-11 02:58 PM   #62 
  - We have royalty - they're called celebrities.  GomezLives   Apr-29-11 01:31 PM   #6 
  - I wish we had half the dignity of the British. It doesn't matter what country I go to, I can  sinkingfeeling   Apr-29-11 01:31 PM   #7 
  - In america when something is totally useless, we throw it away.  CBGLuthier   Apr-29-11 01:31 PM   #8 
  - Are you serious?  Arugula Latte   Apr-29-11 01:33 PM   #9 
  - And very often, wasteful as many of us are, we throw away still useful things. (nt)  Heidi   Apr-29-11 01:34 PM   #12 
  - Name something.  sinkingfeeling   Apr-29-11 01:34 PM   #13 
  - I will name your post, "Samuel." I have named something. nt  ZombieHorde   Apr-29-11 02:42 PM   #52 
     - I spit out my latte  leftynyc   Apr-29-11 03:16 PM   #75 
  - Of course there are  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 01:36 PM   #14 
  - Then why...  murphyj87   Apr-29-11 01:43 PM   #22 
  - AWESOME!!!  Rebubula   Apr-29-11 02:33 PM   #44 
  - As if you speak for all of Britain  quinnox   Apr-29-11 01:33 PM   #11 
  - Oh wow, the "free speech" defence already  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 01:39 PM   #17 
     - Why are you so surprised by this reaction  quinnox   Apr-29-11 01:49 PM   #27 
        - No, I expected them to be ignoring it  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 01:55 PM   #34 
        - So - watching a beautiful  leftynyc   Apr-29-11 03:21 PM   #79 
  - The monarchy is a British tradition.  Dawson Leery   Apr-29-11 01:38 PM   #15 
  - We abandoned "divine right" long ago  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 01:41 PM   #18 
  - "(I) do not understand why there is so much fascination with them around the world."  CJCRANE   Apr-29-11 01:43 PM   #21 
     - The "logic" that Britain at one time ruled much of the world does not hold  Dawson Leery   Apr-29-11 01:45 PM   #25 
        - My guess  CJCRANE   Apr-29-11 01:49 PM   #30 
  - As far as I'm concerned...  pipi_k   Apr-29-11 01:41 PM   #19 
  - I agree with you...  CJCRANE   Apr-29-11 01:47 PM   #26 
  - But most people here on DU  NYC Liberal   Apr-29-11 01:42 PM   #20 
  - I'm not sure why the wall-to-wall coverage  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 01:45 PM   #24 
     - I don't know why our media is so obsessed with the wedding  XemaSab   Apr-29-11 03:40 PM   #89 
  - I love the Royals. This was a beautiful, dignified wedding and it makes  polly7   Apr-29-11 01:49 PM   #28 
  - There are some days  Coyote_Bandit   Apr-29-11 01:52 PM   #31 
  - I watched it  Mz Pip   Apr-29-11 01:52 PM   #32 
  - Do you mean "Americans" or..."DUers"?  CJCRANE   Apr-29-11 02:27 PM   #40 
  - LOL, fair point  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 02:29 PM   #42 
  - I don't understand why some people here feel annoyed by it.  undeterred   Apr-29-11 02:28 PM   #41 
  - And that, I entirely understand  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 02:37 PM   #46 
     - To me they're just people.  undeterred   Apr-29-11 05:46 PM   #114 
  - I thought it was a gorgeous ceremony and I wish them all the best.  Tuesday Afternoon   Apr-29-11 02:36 PM   #45 
  - K&R...  SidDithers   Apr-29-11 02:37 PM   #47 
  - My advice? Let it go.  Warren DeMontague   Apr-29-11 02:40 PM   #49 
  - You're probably right  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 02:50 PM   #55 
     - It doesn't matter what the topic is, someone will be along to complain about it.  Warren DeMontague   Apr-29-11 02:56 PM   #60 
  - I'm one American that watched it and enjoyed it. Best Wishes to William and Kate. nt  Saturday   Apr-29-11 02:51 PM   #56 
  - If the Brits want royalty let them have it  Mikeystyle   Apr-29-11 02:54 PM   #58 
  - Fair enough  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 02:57 PM   #61 
  - delete..wrong place  in_cog_ni_to   Apr-29-11 03:09 PM   #67 
  - And what about her sister..!  CJCRANE   Apr-29-11 03:43 PM   #92 
  - I don't blame you for being angry. Some people hate everything.  in_cog_ni_to   Apr-29-11 03:10 PM   #68 
  - Some hope of that  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 03:13 PM   #70 
     - I agree. They are starting out in love. Which is more than we can say for Charles and Diana.  in_cog_ni_to   Apr-29-11 03:17 PM   #76 
  - I LOVED the wedding  leftynyc   Apr-29-11 03:12 PM   #69 
  - I enjoyed watching it!  Starry Messenger   Apr-29-11 03:14 PM   #71 
  - I just can't believe that baby got married!  in_cog_ni_to   Apr-29-11 03:20 PM   #78 
     - 28 years! Can't be possible!  Starry Messenger   Apr-29-11 03:25 PM   #82 
  - K&R. nt  City Lights   Apr-29-11 03:15 PM   #72 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-29-11 03:15 PM   #74 
  - We're not asking for the right to lecture you  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 03:22 PM   #80 
  - I only argue the royalty points,  RandomThoughts   Apr-29-11 03:25 PM   #81 
  - Just what this thead needed  leftynyc   Apr-29-11 03:28 PM   #85 
     - And the OP was what? Saying it was American arrogance was a compliment?  Fuzz   Apr-29-11 03:34 PM   #86 
        - For the record  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 03:39 PM   #88 
        - I didn't think you did. It's the overly sensitive American types.  Fuzz   Apr-29-11 03:42 PM   #91 
           - Good  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 04:02 PM   #101 
        - The OP was right  leftynyc   Apr-29-11 03:41 PM   #90 
           - It's not necessarily an opinion based on a feeling of superiority, it could just be  Fuzz   Apr-29-11 03:51 PM   #95 
              - I go to Greece every summer  leftynyc   Apr-29-11 05:44 PM   #112 
              - I go to Greece every summer  leftynyc   Apr-29-11 05:45 PM   #113 
  - I haven't read  H2O Man   Apr-29-11 03:26 PM   #84 
  - I can understand being annoyed at the media coverage  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 03:37 PM   #87 
  - At least twenty percent of THE BRITISH would end the monarchy.  JackRiddler   Apr-29-11 03:46 PM   #93 
  - How dare they slag off on their own traditions.  Fuzz   Apr-29-11 03:53 PM   #96 
  - They live here  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 04:01 PM   #99 
  - Again with the First Amendment  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 03:58 PM   #97 
     - I hereby invite you to blast (in words) the Superbowl and Independence Day to your heart's content.  JackRiddler   Apr-29-11 04:01 PM   #100 
        - Why bother?  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 04:04 PM   #103 
           - As presently constituted & historically they are neither merely "odd" nor harmless.  JackRiddler   Apr-29-11 04:12 PM   #107 
              - Trust me, I wouldn't  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 04:17 PM   #109 
  - This is the same argument by which people justify the display of the Confederate flag, by the way.  JackRiddler   Apr-29-11 03:50 PM   #94 
  - Apples and oranges  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 03:59 PM   #98 
     - It's true that the Confederates never enslaved Ireland or India.  JackRiddler   Apr-29-11 04:03 PM   #102 
        - Technically, nor did we  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 04:08 PM   #104 
           - When the royals renounce the history of their own institution...  JackRiddler   Apr-29-11 04:10 PM   #106 
              - Why?  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 04:13 PM   #108 
  - As a member of DU may I please offer my agreement with your OP...  Little Star   Apr-29-11 04:09 PM   #105 
  - It's ok, I'm over it now  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 04:22 PM   #110 
  - I personally said nothing until this rude post. It was just as bad as any  Fuzz   Apr-29-11 11:40 PM   #147 
  - I believe the royals work pretty hard. I was watching the documentary  tblue37   Apr-29-11 05:27 PM   #111 
  - I didn't see it  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 07:37 PM   #134 
  - Your royalty are a complete waste of oxygen, like most wealthy who do nothing of any value  alarimer   Apr-29-11 05:53 PM   #115 
  - They generate a stack of tourist revenue  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 07:35 PM   #133 
     - Sounds like a variation of trickle down  treestar   Apr-29-11 07:46 PM   #137 
     - Not really  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 07:53 PM   #140 
     - How do you know they generate a lot of tourist revenue?  Prometheus Bound   Apr-30-11 02:27 AM   #157 
  - This must be Big Ugly American Friday. n/t  EFerrari   Apr-29-11 06:24 PM   #118 
  - Super Ugly. We'd be just as pissed if they were attacking our traditions.  Snoutport   Apr-29-11 06:32 PM   #120 
  - Dear Brits, I'm sorry people are rude about the wedding, I'm sorry we make fun of your food and most  Snoutport   Apr-29-11 06:30 PM   #119 
  - National apology for Victoria Beckham  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 07:13 PM   #129 
     - Spotted Dick...snicker  Snoutport   Apr-29-11 11:03 PM   #143 
  - The British Empire did not abolish slavery until 1873.  joshcryer   Apr-29-11 06:42 PM   #121 
  - But slavery in Britain itself was abolished in 1807  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 07:09 PM   #127 
  - I just think its amusing that a country that spent 12,000 years throwing off the rule of Monarchy  NeedleCast   Apr-29-11 06:49 PM   #123 
  - We spend a lot of time talking about soap operas too  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 07:17 PM   #130 
  - +1. I just don't understand the vehemence.  wickerwoman   Apr-29-11 07:01 PM   #125 
  - These cost up to 5000 pounds each (the hats) -  TBF   Apr-29-11 07:07 PM   #126 
  - That's only a piddling $8355 a hat. About the yearly income of  Zorra   Apr-29-11 07:26 PM   #131 
  - Which part would you like to discuss?  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 07:33 PM   #132 
  - Yes, the oppulance on display while others are starving.  TBF   Apr-29-11 08:26 PM   #142 
  - I'm not much on fashion  treestar   Apr-29-11 07:44 PM   #136 
  - Though allies now, it brings out the one difference we have  treestar   Apr-29-11 07:40 PM   #135 
  - Ah, but you still have an aristocracy  Prophet 451   Apr-29-11 07:48 PM   #138 
     - And we criticize the American 'royals' often here as well.  Fuzz   Apr-29-11 11:43 PM   #148 
  - The wedding was beautiful. I enjoyed watching it very much.  hardcover   Apr-29-11 11:28 PM   #144 
  - There's always been a lot of hate on DU  Catherine Vincent   Apr-29-11 11:36 PM   #145 
  - It's not hate. It just has no meaning to us.  Prometheus Bound   Apr-30-11 01:55 AM   #152 
  - I thought the wedding was magnificent  TuxedoKat   Apr-29-11 11:39 PM   #146 
  - My problem isn't with the wedding, but the disgusting near-orgasmic reactions of the media  Dappleganger   Apr-29-11 11:46 PM   #149 
  - I couldn't stand more than 10 minutes of it because of the commentators.  Prometheus Bound   Apr-30-11 12:33 AM   #151 
  - Fortunately the opinions of cranks on DU do not reflect the opinions of "Americans" as a whole  WildEyedLiberal   Apr-30-11 02:03 AM   #153 
  - The fact that you care and we care mean there is something special.  DuaneBidoux   Apr-30-11 02:20 AM   #154 
  - Didn't it all seem rather churchy?  Common Sense Party   Apr-30-11 02:24 AM   #156 
  - I watched Bill Mahrer and was very disappointed in his royal wedding commentary.  DuaneBidoux   Apr-30-11 02:28 AM   #158 
 

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