| 26. "The TSA is an entirely unnecessary agency at airports." |
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Seriously? I get being unhappy with the level of scrutiny, but to argue we don't need airline security? That's kind of ridiculous.
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| -Former Miss USA winner: TSA agent ‘touched my vagina’ |
kpete |
Apr-28-11 05:18 PM |
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Her vagina? Really? |
JuniperLea |
Apr-28-11 05:21 PM |
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Apr-28-11 05:37 PM |
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+1 n/t |
demmiblue |
Apr-28-11 05:40 PM |
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Very creepy ~ |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-28-11 05:47 PM |
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What nonsense... |
JuniperLea |
Apr-28-11 05:48 PM |
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Some of us aren't so willing to give up our liberty for a false sense of security |
Ghost in the Machine |
Apr-28-11 05:58 PM |
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Ben Franklin I believe |
MiniMe |
Apr-28-11 06:10 PM |
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Thank you, sad that you have to even say that. |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-28-11 06:20 PM |
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No one had to remind me of that quote or that fact... |
JuniperLea |
Apr-28-11 06:28 PM |
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Where did I ever say this action was OK? |
JuniperLea |
Apr-28-11 06:22 PM |
#41 |
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Ummm... |
Ghost in the Machine |
Apr-28-11 08:35 PM |
#113 |
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I don't see how being patted down is giving up liberty |
adigal |
Apr-28-11 07:02 PM |
#61 |
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People can hide lots of things in their body cavities. |
LisaL |
Apr-28-11 07:22 PM |
#72 |
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A snook? In her Snizz? |
Fuzz |
Apr-28-11 08:15 PM |
#96 |
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Trading flying for being pat down is giving up liberty. |
jp11 |
Apr-28-11 07:31 PM |
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There is no inalienable right to get on a plane |
adigal |
Apr-28-11 07:38 PM |
#79 |
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Never said it was. |
jp11 |
Apr-28-11 08:08 PM |
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Wrong, and I am getting tired of correcting this rightwing |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-28-11 11:59 PM |
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+1000 I'm sick of people who are passive as we lose our rights. n/t |
Mimosa |
Apr-29-11 01:29 AM |
#135 |
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You don't have to pat down, or be scanned to fly.... |
boppers |
Apr-28-11 08:21 PM |
#101 |
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Wow, the brainwashing is almost complete! |
Ghost in the Machine |
Apr-28-11 09:06 PM |
#117 |
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yes, so long as you stay in your house you are "free". if you actually want to do something, that's |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-30-11 03:31 AM |
#179 |
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If it is 'molestation' when done to women and children it is also 'molestation' when done to men or |
jp11 |
Apr-28-11 08:03 PM |
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Durrrrrr...... |
Maru Kitteh |
Apr-29-11 12:02 AM |
#126 |
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When one uses the phrase women and children it by design excludes those that don't fall in those |
jp11 |
Apr-29-11 01:44 PM |
#174 |
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Yes, it is, I completely agree. And it has been done to men. |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-29-11 01:31 AM |
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A-freakin'-men!!! nt |
U4ikLefty |
Apr-29-11 01:13 AM |
#129 |
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'Go, Team' hypocrisy is despicable |
Mimosa |
Apr-29-11 01:24 AM |
#132 |
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Yes, these searches began last year, and people should go to |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-29-11 01:41 AM |
#141 |
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Ah, But that "miniscule threat" is from brown people that don't speak english |
Yavin4 |
Apr-29-11 12:59 PM |
#170 |
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I was referring to a pat down in general... |
JuniperLea |
Apr-28-11 05:47 PM |
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Read your words I quoted. Explicit and gross. |
PufPuf23 |
Apr-28-11 06:03 PM |
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Apr-28-11 06:15 PM |
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OFFS... please read what I wrote... |
JuniperLea |
Apr-28-11 06:17 PM |
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JuniperLea... I can't believe what you wrote either... |
hlthe2b |
Apr-28-11 06:21 PM |
#40 |
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How does this mean that I approve of these actions? |
JuniperLea |
Apr-28-11 06:24 PM |
#43 |
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You explicitly call out this woman on her complaints... |
hlthe2b |
Apr-28-11 06:28 PM |
#46 |
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Bullshit |
JuniperLea |
Apr-28-11 06:36 PM |
#49 |
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So because this woman misspoke with repsect to the term for her |
hlthe2b |
Apr-28-11 06:42 PM |
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My post is very clear if you don't try to put words into it that are not there. |
JuniperLea |
Apr-28-11 06:48 PM |
#52 |
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I doubt very seriously that |
hlthe2b |
Apr-28-11 07:54 PM |
#84 |
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... |
hlthe2b |
Apr-28-11 07:58 PM |
#86 |
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What an insult to 'poor, destitute women' |
Mimosa |
Apr-29-11 01:45 AM |
#143 |
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Med prof pal says such TSA searches could be spreading Herpes simplex |
Mimosa |
Apr-29-11 01:36 AM |
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agree +1000 |
guardian |
Apr-29-11 10:55 AM |
#158 |
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"The TSA is an entirely unnecessary agency at airports." |
TheWraith |
Apr-28-11 06:06 PM |
#26 |
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There was airline security and going through screening and |
PufPuf23 |
Apr-28-11 06:16 PM |
#37 |
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So, airport screening on 9/11 was good enough? |
TheWraith |
Apr-28-11 06:30 PM |
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Back then boxcutters were allowed onto the plane. |
LisaL |
Apr-28-11 07:21 PM |
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No they were not. |
TheWraith |
Apr-28-11 07:29 PM |
#76 |
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According to wikipedia, knifes with blades up to 4 inches were |
LisaL |
Apr-28-11 07:38 PM |
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FAA regs permitted them. But the FAA didn't run airport security. |
TheWraith |
Apr-29-11 01:40 AM |
#140 |
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I travelled with a little one for years that was part of a little tool kit |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
Apr-28-11 08:27 PM |
#103 |
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Then yours was a case of the airlines not enforcing their own rules. |
TheWraith |
Apr-29-11 01:42 AM |
#142 |
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So every major airport in the US, Western Europe and Asia were all wrong? |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
Apr-29-11 03:24 AM |
#151 |
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They used to let my on board witha 4 inch switcblade. |
aikoaiko |
Apr-29-11 09:46 AM |
#152 |
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The 9/11 hijackers didn't need boxcutters. |
Eric J in MN |
Apr-29-11 09:53 AM |
#154 |
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I'm not happy with the level of scrutiny either... |
JuniperLea |
Apr-28-11 06:29 PM |
#47 |
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I apologize if I hurt your feelings but was blown away by your post. |
PufPuf23 |
Apr-28-11 06:54 PM |
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You seriously fucked my mind... and I don't know how to get over this... |
JuniperLea |
Apr-28-11 06:59 PM |
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Your hurt and insult at WORDS on DU are nothing compared to the hurt and insult of this woman |
woo me with science |
Apr-28-11 07:38 PM |
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I am hurt for that woman and for the children and the men |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-29-11 01:10 AM |
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Woo Me with Science, great post ^^ I've another issue |
Mimosa |
Apr-29-11 02:25 AM |
#147 |
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Damn right and thank you. |
pecwae |
Apr-29-11 03:44 PM |
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Then oppose it rather than wiping and dangling. |
TheKentuckian |
Apr-28-11 06:55 PM |
#57 |
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OFFS... please read what I wrote... |
JuniperLea |
Apr-28-11 07:06 PM |
#63 |
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I think you need to re-read your first reply to this thread. |
chrisa |
Apr-28-11 08:21 PM |
#102 |
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Homeland Security is the unnecessary agency, not the TSA n/t |
leftstreet |
Apr-28-11 06:09 PM |
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+1,0000000000000 I think I am in shock just reading that... |
hlthe2b |
Apr-28-11 06:12 PM |
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Oh yeah, she deserved it! |
chrisa |
Apr-28-11 08:15 PM |
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And YOU are being stupidly insensitive. |
Matariki |
Apr-28-11 08:27 PM |
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Well since she is pretty and successful she deserves it right? |
Cid_B |
Apr-28-11 08:30 PM |
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Yuk. Maybe they can make a separate line for those who expect crotch buggery, |
Maru Kitteh |
Apr-28-11 11:42 PM |
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LOL - I would expect that you would freely submit to whatever |
TBF |
Apr-29-11 10:57 AM |
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The pat down means must that, you get patted, felt, all over, including your "private area" |
uppityperson |
Apr-29-11 11:32 AM |
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Sexually being assaulted while traveling.... Being beaten at the I Hop. |
midnight |
Apr-28-11 05:24 PM |
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Perhaps she means vulva? |
Uncle Joe |
Apr-28-11 05:25 PM |
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Yes, there have been other threads here at DU about this mistake. |
spooky3 |
Apr-28-11 05:46 PM |
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When one feels they have been violated - it is a distinction without a difference. |
Maru Kitteh |
Apr-29-11 12:06 AM |
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if you read my first sentence, I think it's clear that |
spooky3 |
Apr-29-11 01:18 AM |
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I've given up. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Apr-29-11 04:49 PM |
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That's what I was inferring with my post... |
JuniperLea |
Apr-28-11 05:52 PM |
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I think you meant "imply" |
REP |
Apr-28-11 06:22 PM |
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You are right... |
JuniperLea |
Apr-28-11 06:42 PM |
#51 |
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But which is it? |
Doremus |
Apr-28-11 07:06 PM |
#64 |
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It's a pick your poison situation... |
JuniperLea |
Apr-28-11 07:10 PM |
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How? By flying out of a terminal where the scanners aren't installed yet. |
Gormy Cuss |
Apr-28-11 08:05 PM |
#91 |
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Get on a private plane instead. |
boppers |
Apr-28-11 08:27 PM |
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But I think you are, despite the denials. |
Doremus |
Apr-28-11 09:36 PM |
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Just funny - joking about use of an inexact word, then making a worse error |
REP |
Apr-28-11 07:57 PM |
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Most women don't use the terms 'vulva' or 'labia'; SO WHAT? n/t |
Mimosa |
Apr-29-11 01:39 AM |
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I wasn't the one complaining about the use of 'vagina;' I was replying to someone who was |
REP |
Apr-29-11 02:01 AM |
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I see that now. *smile* |
Mimosa |
Apr-29-11 02:15 AM |
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regardless, no one else's hands belong in that area uninvited...no one n/t |
TK421 |
Apr-28-11 07:05 PM |
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That is the point... |
JuniperLea |
Apr-28-11 07:12 PM |
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Damned if you do, damned if you don't, and we are even patting down children |
TK421 |
Apr-28-11 07:18 PM |
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Oh, I completely agree |
REP |
Apr-28-11 07:23 PM |
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The whole vagina, vulva thing is really fucking irritating....folks, that is just like |
TK421 |
Apr-28-11 07:28 PM |
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I understand "vagina" is used to mean labia, vulva, pudendum, etc - I think most people do, really |
REP |
Apr-28-11 07:44 PM |
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I know, and it is still your private area...that is what I find irritating |
TK421 |
Apr-28-11 07:51 PM |
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We agree; additionally, mocking her for her word choice is assinine |
REP |
Apr-28-11 08:01 PM |
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absolutely...and yeah, you were clear :) |
TK421 |
Apr-28-11 08:17 PM |
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The most depressing part is seeing DUers here defending such actions... |
hlthe2b |
Apr-28-11 08:01 PM |
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You say cowardly, and I'll raise you one....I say accepting of it |
TK421 |
Apr-28-11 08:18 PM |
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whoever it is |
shanti |
Apr-28-11 08:18 PM |
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I'm glad others notice this also |
uppityperson |
Apr-28-11 06:11 PM |
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HEY! I drive a Volva ... it has a spoiler too |
underpants |
Apr-28-11 06:12 PM |
#32 |
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Who cares what kind of car she drives? |
Blue-Jay |
Apr-28-11 08:00 PM |
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I'm glad that the TSA is protecting us from exploding vagina's. |
L0oniX |
Apr-28-11 05:27 PM |
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Similar attacks have already happened. |
boppers |
Apr-28-11 08:30 PM |
#108 |
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While over 40,000 people die every year I think there are other more likely ways to die. |
L0oniX |
Apr-29-11 10:09 AM |
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There is only one way to stop this, and that is for the American public to stop flying |
MadHound |
Apr-28-11 05:32 PM |
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That's what the boys want. |
formercia |
Apr-28-11 05:37 PM |
#7 |
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No, I don't think so |
MadHound |
Apr-28-11 05:51 PM |
#17 |
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Loosen your tin foil hat. |
TheWraith |
Apr-28-11 06:07 PM |
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Travelers need to ease up! |
chbrad2 |
Apr-28-11 05:37 PM |
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'Scuse me, have you worked with back scatter scanners? |
MadHound |
Apr-28-11 05:50 PM |
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Don't forget to *send* the dosimeter off between the checkpoint and the plane. |
boppers |
Apr-28-11 08:36 PM |
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Right on |
chbrad2 |
Apr-30-11 01:45 PM |
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Agreed |
Sherman A1 |
Apr-28-11 05:48 PM |
#15 |
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Exactly right. |
TheWraith |
Apr-28-11 06:08 PM |
#28 |
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i am there. i refuse. i have turned down trips and driven across country |
seabeyond |
Apr-28-11 06:16 PM |
#36 |
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My daughter gave up the opportunity for a scholarship at an |
LibDemAlways |
May-01-11 12:43 AM |
#188 |
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Aren't Miss USA winners Trump employees? |
Bad Thoughts |
Apr-28-11 05:39 PM |
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Are the children who have been molested by the TSA Trump |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-28-11 05:54 PM |
#19 |
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It's a question of politicization |
Bad Thoughts |
Apr-28-11 06:25 PM |
#44 |
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Oh bullshit, sorry to be so blunt. |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-28-11 06:49 PM |
#54 |
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You're naive, sorry to be blunt |
Bad Thoughts |
Apr-28-11 06:56 PM |
#58 |
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Did you read what has been to little children? To men, |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-28-11 11:52 PM |
#124 |
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I think anyone planning to ask for a pat-down should wear slacks. |
pnwmom |
Apr-28-11 05:54 PM |
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So we should just now resign ourselves to the abuse, |
MadHound |
Apr-28-11 06:02 PM |
#24 |
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I didn't say you couldn't protest as well. |
pnwmom |
Apr-28-11 06:13 PM |
#34 |
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...or the gov't could not have flyers molested. nt |
U4ikLefty |
Apr-29-11 01:18 AM |
#131 |
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I wonder what happens when a woman is patted down and she wearing a maxi pad? |
notadmblnd |
Apr-28-11 06:48 PM |
#53 |
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The police would do a strip search... |
JuniperLea |
Apr-28-11 06:56 PM |
#59 |
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Why would they do that? My daughter had a pat-down while wearing a pad |
pnwmom |
Apr-28-11 07:07 PM |
#65 |
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Then WTF is the point of these patdowns anyway? |
LisaL |
Apr-28-11 07:20 PM |
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Would a pad feel like a bomb? n/t |
pnwmom |
Apr-28-11 07:26 PM |
#74 |
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Plastic explosives can be molded into any shape. |
LisaL |
Apr-28-11 07:30 PM |
#77 |
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What I've read is that some women who were wearing pads |
pnwmom |
Apr-28-11 11:33 PM |
#121 |
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How disgusting, that people are even talking about this. |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-29-11 01:27 AM |
#134 |
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She had JEANS on. |
Matariki |
Apr-28-11 08:33 PM |
#111 |
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If she was wearing jeans, how could they |
pnwmom |
Apr-28-11 11:43 PM |
#123 |
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I don't think there is anyone here who doesn't understand what |
LisaL |
Apr-29-11 02:04 AM |
#145 |
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I guess after having gone through countless exams and the birth |
pnwmom |
Apr-29-11 02:53 AM |
#148 |
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It always amazes me that people can so completely fail to put themselves in another's place. |
Matariki |
Apr-29-11 12:54 PM |
#168 |
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I think you are unnecessarily nitpicking words. The point remains. |
Matariki |
Apr-29-11 12:46 PM |
#166 |
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Such a high profile person should denounce Homeland Security policies n/t |
leftstreet |
Apr-28-11 05:59 PM |
#22 |
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I've been convinced for a while that some of these people think... |
AngryOldDem |
Apr-28-11 06:00 PM |
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lots of jobs |
shanti |
Apr-28-11 08:27 PM |
#104 |
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Whiny child. Doesn't she understand being molested is necessary to protect her from terra? |
BlueIris |
Apr-28-11 06:55 PM |
#56 |
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I'm really beginning to think some of these agents get off on this shit n.t |
TK421 |
Apr-28-11 07:19 PM |
#69 |
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ya think? other than the opportunity to steal iShit... |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
Apr-28-11 08:28 PM |
#107 |
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from what I'm told, the pay is pretty decent |
TK421 |
Apr-28-11 08:44 PM |
#116 |
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This thread is worthless without pictures.... |
aikoaiko |
Apr-28-11 08:10 PM |
#93 |
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This is a good reason not to fly w/your kids these days. |
ClarkUSA |
Apr-28-11 08:13 PM |
#94 |
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Next ... strip searches -- !! Body cavity searches -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Apr-28-11 08:20 PM |
#100 |
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Someone should do a study on whether young women are being disproportionately targeted |
Matariki |
Apr-28-11 08:31 PM |
#110 |
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Clearly it's a case of sex-crazed Lesbians being paid to run amock at our nation's airports |
Johnny Morales |
Apr-28-11 08:35 PM |
#112 |
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Reading what she wrote, yes, a "pat down" includes "grazing private area".I don't think it is right |
uppityperson |
Apr-28-11 08:36 PM |
#115 |
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Pics or it didn't happen. |
Nailzberg |
Apr-28-11 10:19 PM |
#119 |
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You really want to see a woman in a situation that is obviously distressing to her? Creepy. n/t |
demmiblue |
Apr-28-11 10:24 PM |
#120 |
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Many males think it's 'funny'. |
Mimosa |
Apr-29-11 01:27 AM |
#133 |
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Perverts, these tactics were thought up by perverts, just like the |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-29-11 03:03 AM |
#149 |
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I kind of feel like slapping you with a book written by Judith Butler. |
Paradoxical |
Apr-29-11 01:32 AM |
#137 |
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sexual molestation turns you on? a woman crying excites you? nt |
seabeyond |
Apr-29-11 09:55 AM |
#155 |
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I'd rather fly out of Tel Aviv than Atlanta right now. |
crickets |
Apr-29-11 03:10 AM |
#150 |
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Abolish the TSA. |
Eric J in MN |
Apr-29-11 09:49 AM |
#153 |
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I know I'll be flamed or put on ignore but... |
ecstatic |
Apr-29-11 10:08 AM |
#156 |
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yes you are correct |
StarburstClock |
Apr-29-11 11:21 AM |
#160 |
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No flames here. For you or Juniper. If you are getting pat down, yes, your "private area" gets |
uppityperson |
Apr-29-11 11:25 AM |
#161 |
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Exactly. I don't see the need for pat downs either |
ecstatic |
Apr-29-11 11:44 AM |
#163 |
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so she deserved it for not taking the x-ray? |
CreekDog |
Apr-30-11 02:13 PM |
#182 |
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deserved what? a standard pat down? |
ecstatic |
Apr-30-11 06:39 PM |
#184 |
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i trust science and doctors on vaccines |
CreekDog |
Apr-30-11 06:57 PM |
#185 |
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Hate to nit-pick, but the word I think she wants is 'vulva' |
Taverner |
Apr-29-11 12:28 PM |
#164 |
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so so many sheep and shill comments on this thread, shame on the anti-liberty posters |
stockholmer |
Apr-29-11 12:38 PM |
#165 |
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Where? Link to one that says this is ok. Link or quit the insults |
uppityperson |
Apr-29-11 12:49 PM |
#167 |
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do not patronize me, please, I know you have read the strand, starting w/ reply #1 |
stockholmer |
Apr-30-11 03:28 AM |
#178 |
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I do not think that word means what you think it means. You can read minds? wow. |
uppityperson |
May-01-11 12:13 AM |
#186 |
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Has anyone seen the word "vagina" appear on a newspaper front page over this? |
flamingdem |
Apr-29-11 12:57 PM |
#169 |
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She said she's been patted down before and it was no problem |
Catherine Vincent |
Apr-29-11 01:03 PM |
#171 |
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Uh...she touched your vagina? |
Aerows |
Apr-29-11 01:05 PM |
#172 |
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oh...this is the Susie Castillo from MTV? |
alp227 |
Apr-29-11 01:24 PM |
#173 |
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Infuckingcredible |
pecwae |
Apr-29-11 03:51 PM |
#176 |
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Sorry. We know what she meant |
Taverner |
Apr-30-11 02:19 PM |
#183 |
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It would be very difficult to touch a vagina on a clothed body. |
Vinca |
Apr-30-11 02:09 PM |
#181 |
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I do a lot of travleing for work. Just this past week, I went through |
johnaries |
May-01-11 12:31 AM |
#187 |