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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-10 01:16 PM
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26. A. They think they are going to do better than what we see in History. They are wrong, because
the abdication of moral authority to an Other makes "Christians" weaker, not stronger. Certainly that is the lesson we see in the crucifixion of the Christ, a guy named Jesus. It is extremely interesting how much it is ignored that Jesus was crucified by his CHURCH-STATE.

Though in this time we probably would not see crucifixions, witch burnings and such, abdication of free personal moral responsibility makes it such that we can and do see the modern equivalent of these kinds of atrocities. Some cases in point: the Invasion & Occupation of Iraq in which 10s of thousands of innocent men, women, and children suffered and died, the persecution of LGBT, Racism, and the economic utilitaritization of future generations. All sanctioned, nay, BLESSED by our Church-SaintCo slave auxiliary to the Transnational Financial Fiefdoms who own this country.
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  -Why would anyone want a "Christian Government"?? shraby  Dec-31-10 12:39 PM   #0 
  - "Those are the kinds of governments where people get hung for being witches"..  Fumesucker   Dec-31-10 12:40 PM   #1 
  - Problem..anyone can be deemed a witch, particularly if  shraby   Dec-31-10 12:42 PM   #3 
  - Everything is a matter of perspective..  Fumesucker   Dec-31-10 12:51 PM   #15 
  - you have no problem with witches, or anyone named as witch, being hung? why is that?  niyad   Dec-31-10 12:46 PM   #8 
  - That burning smell?  Fumesucker   Dec-31-10 12:49 PM   #10 
     - the problem is, there really are groups of christian fundies today who advocate the burning of  niyad   Dec-31-10 12:59 PM   #22 
        - They also advocate stoning people to death. They are Dominionists,  kestrel91316   Dec-31-10 01:27 PM   #27 
        - And they want to bring back slavery as punishment for debtors.  Odin2005   Dec-31-10 01:44 PM   #29 
           - You got it. Palin is one of THOSE. She just doesn't want people to know.  kestrel91316   Dec-31-10 03:59 PM   #43 
        - Which is where and why Poe's Law comes in..  Fumesucker   Dec-31-10 01:27 PM   #28 
  - As an ordained high priestess and a Wiccan -  LibertyLover   Dec-31-10 08:03 PM   #49 
  - I don't want a theocracy either, but secular governments can be just as  GreenPartyVoter   Dec-31-10 12:42 PM   #2 
  - Like I said, if I had my druthers...a secular government is my  shraby   Dec-31-10 12:43 PM   #6 
     - But I would hope you would be more specific than just secular if you ever  GreenPartyVoter   Dec-31-10 12:53 PM   #17 
     - We sent Americans to die to form a secular democracy in Iraq (and FAILED)  K8-EEE   Dec-31-10 04:13 PM   #44 
  - non-believers and fornicators must die  meow mix   Dec-31-10 12:43 PM   #4 
  - Tell them you're not a "non-believer and fornicator" but rather a "fornicator and non-believer"...  KansDem   Dec-31-10 12:48 PM   #9 
  - why would anyone want an Islamic gov't or a buddhist gov't?  cali   Dec-31-10 12:43 PM   #5 
  - Or a Catholic government ..shades of the inquisition..  shraby   Dec-31-10 12:46 PM   #7 
     - Bloody Mary was catholic. nt  PassingFair   Dec-31-10 02:31 PM   #35 
     - In case you don't know, this is the 21st Century  badtoworse   Dec-31-10 03:17 PM   #39 
  - the christian taliban, that's who.  niyad   Dec-31-10 12:49 PM   #11 
  - I tend to agree...  KansDem   Dec-31-10 12:50 PM   #12 
  - Because some people think the Middle Ages are cool.  Cleita   Dec-31-10 12:51 PM   #13 
  - I want the government out of my religion and religion out of my government!  randr   Dec-31-10 12:51 PM   #14 
  - You're describing fundy porn.  Iggo   Dec-31-10 12:52 PM   #16 
  - Because it absolves people from personal responsibility.  Bonhomme Richard   Dec-31-10 12:54 PM   #18 
  - Because that is what the church tells them to want.  dkofos   Dec-31-10 12:55 PM   #19 
  - There is a difference between doctrine and it's application  Kennah   Dec-31-10 12:55 PM   #20 
  - Given the horrors inflicted upon the world by securlar governments, I would guess  Karmadillo   Dec-31-10 12:55 PM   #21 
  - a secular "government" does`t bother itself with religion...  madrchsod   Dec-31-10 01:03 PM   #23 
  - I do agree with you if forced to choose...  silver10   Dec-31-10 01:06 PM   #24 
  - that's your view of a Christian Government  hfojvt   Dec-31-10 01:07 PM   #25 
  - Yes, but you don't understand.  Igel   Dec-31-10 05:19 PM   #46 
  - A. They think they are going to do better than what we see in History. They are wrong, because  patrice   Dec-31-10 01:16 PM   #26 
  - "The Family" and the Dominionists want just that  Taverner   Dec-31-10 01:47 PM   #30 
  - This is a frightening thought.  Duwamish   Dec-31-10 02:11 PM   #33 
     - That Texas example is one person's ignorant prejudice...  badtoworse   Dec-31-10 02:27 PM   #34 
  - Exaggerate much?  badtoworse   Dec-31-10 01:56 PM   #31 
  - The Salem Witch Trials are frequently cited by DUers  Nye Bevan   Dec-31-10 02:38 PM   #37 
     - It was WORSE.  PassingFair   Dec-31-10 06:48 PM   #47 
  - Not to mention that a theocracy in the USA would lead directly to  jwirr   Dec-31-10 02:03 PM   #32 
  - When they say Christian (in that context), I hear Roman.  Electric Monk   Dec-31-10 02:35 PM   #36 
  - Yup  JerseygirlCT   Dec-31-10 09:28 PM   #51 
  - I think people who want a Christian theocracy  felix_numinous   Dec-31-10 03:10 PM   #38 
  - When I Got Remarried...  WiffenPoof   Dec-31-10 03:27 PM   #40 
  - I think you handled it well.  badtoworse   Dec-31-10 03:31 PM   #41 
  - People want to hide from scientific truths like evolution and the age of the Earth  Warren DeMontague   Dec-31-10 03:57 PM   #42 
  - This Atheist would have to move for fear of being executed.  sarcasmo   Dec-31-10 04:59 PM   #45 
  - When you believe in bizarre things that don't stand to any scrutiny, you NEED everyone to agree  PurityOfEssence   Dec-31-10 07:24 PM   #48 
  - Well  JerseygirlCT   Dec-31-10 09:27 PM   #50 
  - I remember thinking the world would be so much better once everyone was Catholic  DireStrike   Dec-31-10 09:28 PM   #52 

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