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Wed Apr-27-11 08:16 PM
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| GenX to Baby Boomers: Now what? |
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Hey guys,
Look, I know we've had our kerfuffles. We were in to apathy, while you guys were into sympathy, but then we one-upped you and did the empathy thing. Ah the times, the laughs.
I make no secret that we were your first 'product'
When you guys became our teachers, our instructors, our mentors - we became your students, acolytes, your padwans
Some of us even got to be your children
Anyway, we've been in our 30s-40s lately, and you were at this point in the 80s
Yeah, we hated Reagan too - and I always wondered how Jimmy Carter, a nuclear-scientist-cum-President lost that one
But what I really need to know, what we all need to know - is now what?
Seizing the means of production has not been the problem - its what to do with those means once acquired
I know you guys are about to retire and play anything but golf (at least I hope) - and we'll be looked at as some kind of elder (does the idea of Henry Rollins as an elder strike you as ironic? Yeah, me too)
So now what?
Signed,
GenX Taverner
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| -GenX to Baby Boomers: Now what? |
Taverner |
Apr-27-11 08:16 PM |
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k/r |
ixion |
Apr-27-11 08:19 PM |
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I will probably die before I retire, |
erinlough |
Apr-27-11 08:34 PM |
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Damn, its as if we're all swimming for dear life |
Taverner |
Apr-27-11 08:43 PM |
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LOL, I was thinking just today |
erinlough |
Apr-27-11 08:45 PM |
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Wish I had an answer, as have 2 young'uns as daughters. |
elleng |
Apr-27-11 08:23 PM |
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Hey! I got two kids! |
Taverner |
Apr-27-11 08:28 PM |
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Mebbe! How old??? |
elleng |
Apr-27-11 08:37 PM |
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The boy's 8 and the grrrl is 5 |
Taverner |
Apr-27-11 08:39 PM |
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Will take a while!!! |
elleng |
Apr-27-11 08:43 PM |
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Say what? |
Peacetrain |
Apr-27-11 08:33 PM |
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How do you convince the young'uns that slack is good? |
Taverner |
Apr-27-11 08:41 PM |
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That and the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.. |
Peacetrain |
Apr-27-11 08:47 PM |
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The Church of the Subgenius had Robert Anton Wilson's fingerprints all over it. |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-28-11 02:21 AM |
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Yes. Much of it is in the Illuminatus Trilogy. |
RadiationTherapy |
Apr-28-11 09:53 AM |
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Hence my 23 -- an older Boomer. nt |
PufPuf23 |
Apr-28-11 12:19 PM |
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WIlson was an amazing thinker and visionary. |
RadiationTherapy |
Apr-28-11 01:51 PM |
#66 |
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RAW recognized "patterned thinking" and ways to make transparent the |
PufPuf23 |
Apr-28-11 04:30 PM |
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If you haven't seen it yet, the DVD of "Maybe Logic" is great. |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-29-11 12:37 PM |
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Don't forget the 24 hour church of Elvis. ... |
MedicalAdmin |
Apr-28-11 12:31 PM |
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Was a good combo with Powell's Books for new visitors to |
PufPuf23 |
Apr-28-11 04:18 PM |
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Get off my lawn! |
scarletwoman |
Apr-27-11 08:37 PM |
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LOL !!! - Now, Now.. |
WillyT |
Apr-27-11 08:46 PM |
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"Seizing the means of production has not been the problem" ?? |
leftstreet |
Apr-27-11 08:49 PM |
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Well, there are those of us GenXers who have found themselves in management |
Taverner |
Apr-27-11 09:58 PM |
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Obama is not an Xer. The 61' start year is dubious. 64? Sure. Not 61. |
JanMichael |
Apr-27-11 10:11 PM |
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At what point does one begin and another end... |
Taverner |
Apr-27-11 10:55 PM |
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Hard to say... |
TuxedoKat |
Apr-28-11 11:22 AM |
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Ding ding. His parents were not boomers. He's the tail tail end of that demographic. |
JanMichael |
Apr-28-11 05:36 PM |
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good question |
marions ghost |
Apr-27-11 09:03 PM |
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I'm happy to stick together. Please support student loan debt forgiveness, cutting tuition, and the |
franzia99 |
Apr-28-11 04:23 PM |
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What a great Post!!! Thanks for you insight, I agree we must work together |
SoCalDemGrrl |
Apr-29-11 01:34 AM |
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We fight to keep Social Security and Medicare with no cuts so you can have them too |
eridani |
Apr-27-11 09:04 PM |
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No thanks. I'd rather have college tuition be as cheap as it was in your day and have as many well |
franzia99 |
Apr-27-11 11:00 PM |
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This will never happen with corporatists in charge |
eridani |
Apr-28-11 02:11 AM |
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Somehow, I still suspect that... |
franzia99 |
Apr-28-11 03:52 AM |
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so you'll be hosting all the old family boomers when they're dsestitute, right? |
elehhhhna |
Apr-28-11 09:15 AM |
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No. I will be wishing them a speedy trip. Bon Voyage! |
Chris_Texas |
Apr-28-11 06:17 PM |
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right, that's why boomer's wages were flat for thirty years & they got double-taxed for SS. |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-28-11 02:03 PM |
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Sorry I'm calling bullshit here........ |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-28-11 02:06 PM |
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Yep, well said. |
Chris_Texas |
Apr-29-11 01:31 AM |
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Please see post #16 |
Le Taz Hot |
Apr-28-11 09:20 AM |
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Good idea. Now let's get the tax rates back to what they were in 1964 n/t |
eridani |
Apr-28-11 06:06 PM |
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Works for me |
Taverner |
Apr-27-11 11:00 PM |
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Frankly, I think too much money is being diverted for boomer benefits. |
franzia99 |
Apr-27-11 11:03 PM |
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What are YOU doing about it? n/t |
ohheckyeah |
Apr-28-11 02:24 AM |
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frankly, i think you're buying into the fight over table scraps. |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-28-11 02:05 PM |
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How about this, boomers use their numbers to help forgive student loan debt and push down tuition, & |
franzia99 |
Apr-28-11 03:33 PM |
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how about you quit acting like "boomers" as a class are responsible for the student loan industry. |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-28-11 03:42 PM |
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Dismissing my concerns as "intergenerational war" is a nice way for boomers |
franzia99 |
Apr-28-11 03:44 PM |
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weak. you can dodge all you want, but the "greedy seniors" meme is straight |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-28-11 03:56 PM |
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See post 81 below |
franzia99 |
Apr-28-11 03:57 PM |
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no, you shouldn't look to boomers for leadership. so what? killing SS & medicare won't help your |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-28-11 04:01 PM |
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Wow, you boomers live up to your reputation as being a self centered bunch |
franzia99 |
Apr-28-11 04:12 PM |
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They are the generation of greed. |
Chris_Texas |
Apr-28-11 06:13 PM |
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more winger talking points from a low-count poster. |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-28-11 07:35 PM |
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Unless your definitiion of right wing is "Disagrees with me" then I dont qualify |
Chris_Texas |
Apr-28-11 08:01 PM |
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my definition is "ramps up intergenerational warfare", like wingers do. |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-28-11 11:32 PM |
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So as a good liberal I should ignore sociopathic greed and indifference? |
Chris_Texas |
Apr-29-11 12:02 AM |
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you're hopeless. & i suspect for a reason. byebye. |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-28-11 07:34 PM |
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what's wrong with golf, pal? |
dionysus |
Apr-27-11 09:07 PM |
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It's huberis |
Taverner |
Apr-27-11 10:59 PM |
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Fuckin' Frisbee Golf, man. |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-28-11 02:25 AM |
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Yep |
Taverner |
Apr-28-11 11:28 AM |
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Okay, golf is fun. |
Paradoxical |
Apr-28-11 02:56 AM |
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Golf is a waste of a perfectly good walk |
MedicalAdmin |
Apr-28-11 12:35 PM |
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"So now what?" |
unkachuck |
Apr-27-11 09:20 PM |
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I hate to say this even though I love gen X culture but Gen X is one of the most republican |
craigmatic |
Apr-27-11 09:34 PM |
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I don't know about that |
Taverner |
Apr-27-11 10:59 PM |
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Yep. We damn sure are not "republican" |
Chris_Texas |
Apr-29-11 01:30 AM |
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That's true but those ideologies are still on the right. |
craigmatic |
Apr-29-11 03:33 PM |
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The problem is that we (Xers) are simply out numbered. |
JanMichael |
Apr-27-11 10:09 PM |
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Taking a Long Time |
RobinA |
Apr-28-11 11:38 AM |
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...and I don't think the boomers living into their 100s is a bad thing |
Taverner |
Apr-28-11 02:06 PM |
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That sums it up pretty well. n/t |
Exilednight |
Apr-28-11 07:39 PM |
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Today I saw a guy who looked like a retired college professor & realized it was Michael Stipe. |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-28-11 02:18 AM |
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Henry Rollins has a fracking talk show |
MattBaggins |
Apr-28-11 10:56 AM |
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It'd be fun to see Henry getting Orly and Trump and the other Birfers on, wouldn't it? |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-28-11 11:42 AM |
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Now what?? Get self-sufficient. |
adigal |
Apr-28-11 09:24 AM |
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no such thing as self sufficient after 40, no such thing as DIY heart surgery |
pitohui |
Apr-28-11 11:50 AM |
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I am almost 50, and I am going to be self-sufficient |
adigal |
Apr-28-11 07:35 PM |
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+1 - and get armed because the rich will come for your shit. |
MedicalAdmin |
Apr-28-11 12:41 PM |
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The best that I can come up with... |
Tom Rinaldo |
Apr-28-11 09:36 AM |
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Ravages of senior poverty?? |
BobbyBoring |
Apr-28-11 10:08 AM |
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I dunno, I'm not sure I like the taste of GenX, lol |
Tom Rinaldo |
Apr-28-11 10:12 AM |
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You can't run fast enough old timer |
MattBaggins |
Apr-28-11 10:57 AM |
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I sure hate not belonging to a gen proper |
CBGLuthier |
Apr-28-11 10:46 AM |
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See it's that kind of lack of a "can do attitude" that's ruining this world |
MattBaggins |
Apr-28-11 10:59 AM |
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Exactly where I'm at |
Ishoutandscream2 |
Apr-28-11 11:35 AM |
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I would write it a bit differently myself.... |
Chris_Texas |
Apr-28-11 10:56 AM |
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Well, for me I don't blame the boomers for the fall of the USA |
Taverner |
Apr-28-11 11:25 AM |
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Do I blame every individual from that generation? No. |
Chris_Texas |
Apr-28-11 12:12 PM |
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good example |
marions ghost |
Apr-28-11 12:40 PM |
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Yep. ONe of my first posts on DU was about the ........ |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-28-11 02:13 PM |
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No, he made a good point |
franzia99 |
Apr-28-11 03:42 PM |
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GEEZ! I'm a socialist. I want education to be FREE........ |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-28-11 06:32 PM |
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If what you say is true, you know what I have said is also true |
Chris_Texas |
Apr-29-11 01:27 AM |
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This meme is what the Republicans are saying |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-29-11 01:31 PM |
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Ignore reality,,, it's been the "greed" generations mantra forever. Why change now. |
Chris_Texas |
Apr-28-11 05:19 PM |
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I agree, especially if you know that many of the bad decisions |
MedicalAdmin |
Apr-28-11 12:45 PM |
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I think the problem is in that we are the good guys |
Taverner |
Apr-28-11 01:56 PM |
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Don't kid yourself, the boomers LOVED it. For them it was great times. |
Chris_Texas |
Apr-28-11 05:33 PM |
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well here is a classic post of pure ignorance |
pitohui |
Apr-28-11 11:59 AM |
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Good job protesting vietnam as kids |
Chris_Texas |
Apr-28-11 05:48 PM |
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Amen brother. |
franzia99 |
Apr-28-11 03:38 PM |
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Wittingly or unwittingly, both of you guys are....... |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-28-11 06:41 PM |
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Respectfully, that's total crap |
Chris_Texas |
Apr-29-11 12:41 AM |
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What do you want listed? |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-29-11 01:41 PM |
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With a broad brush like that, you could paint a house in an hour |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-29-11 12:15 AM |
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baby boomers dont know what a padwans is |
ontime1969 |
Apr-28-11 11:38 AM |
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How the heck can you even lift that paint brush you are trying to |
Skidmore |
Apr-28-11 12:42 PM |
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Sigh...you didn't read my post did you? |
Taverner |
Apr-28-11 02:02 PM |
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Here'sthe boomer answer to your question... |
Chris_Texas |
Apr-28-11 06:12 PM |
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Capitalist RW talking points |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-28-11 06:47 PM |
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I was gonna say, that seems like a big brush |
Taverner |
Apr-28-11 06:55 PM |
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This doesn't even make sense. |
Chris_Texas |
Apr-28-11 08:38 PM |
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It doesn't make sense to you because you're caught up |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-28-11 11:54 PM |
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WHAT talking points? From WHO? |
Chris_Texas |
Apr-29-11 12:17 AM |
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Blame the fucking reactionary fascists, not a generation...... |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-29-11 12:30 AM |
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You fight with your VOTE. And that is what you are judged by. |
Chris_Texas |
Apr-29-11 12:55 AM |
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Nope. Boomers voted AGAINST Reagan........ |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-29-11 10:45 AM |
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Uh, when I was teaching GenX college students in the 1980s, it was THEY |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-29-11 12:21 AM |
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Be that as it may, BOOMERS elected Reagan twice |
Chris_Texas |
Apr-29-11 01:15 AM |
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So Chris, who's been feeding you this bullshit about "The boomers elected Reagan"? |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-29-11 01:44 AM |
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Baby Boomers to GenXers: Now what? |
Iggo |
Apr-28-11 02:41 PM |
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Oh fuck...none of us have any clue do we? |
Taverner |
Apr-28-11 03:12 PM |
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LOL, no shit huh. |
Iggo |
Apr-28-11 04:09 PM |
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If you never listened to R.E.M.'s Murmur |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-29-11 02:25 AM |
#135 |
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We shouldn't look to boomers for leadership... |
franzia99 |
Apr-28-11 03:54 PM |
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And this socialist has NO problem with anything |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-29-11 01:20 PM |
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This Boomer will have to work as long as she's alive and healthy |
lunatica |
Apr-28-11 04:20 PM |
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This gen x/yer will too. |
franzia99 |
Apr-28-11 04:26 PM |
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What matters is that boomers get more |
Chris_Texas |
Apr-28-11 06:21 PM |
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Teach your children well. |
End Of The Road |
Apr-28-11 04:24 PM |
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35 is not old. or is it? |
krabigirl |
Apr-28-11 07:30 PM |
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Nope, NOT old! But now you have big responsibilities |
End Of The Road |
Apr-28-11 08:02 PM |
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My kids are post-millenials |
Taverner |
Apr-28-11 11:27 PM |
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Seizing the means of production has not been a problem??? |
ironrooster |
Apr-28-11 05:39 PM |
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Well, at least for folks in my age demographic |
Taverner |
Apr-28-11 06:56 PM |
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I do think seizing the means of production is precisely the problem. |
readmoreoften |
Apr-29-11 12:15 AM |
#120 |
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Yep. We did have a little more leverage than there is now |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-29-11 12:21 AM |
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I blame Gen$ and the Bentley Boomers. nt |
U4ikLefty |
Apr-29-11 01:06 AM |
#128 |
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If you're talking about what we used to call Yuppies |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-29-11 01:24 PM |
#139 |
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