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Tue Apr-26-11 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #25 |
| -The capitalist system is broken and needs repair... |
kentuck |
Apr-26-11 09:03 AM |
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And they're controlling the seeds we plant |
LiberalEsto |
Apr-26-11 09:06 AM |
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The capitlaist system doesn't need to be repaired. It needs to be destroyed. |
white_wolf |
Apr-26-11 09:07 AM |
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+1 You beat me to it. nt |
Modern_Matthew |
Apr-26-11 09:13 AM |
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Ideally, you are correct. |
kentuck |
Apr-26-11 09:14 AM |
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Agreed, but that can't be our long term solution. |
white_wolf |
Apr-26-11 10:38 AM |
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But is it realistic? |
kentuck |
Apr-26-11 10:43 AM |
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That is the big question. |
white_wolf |
Apr-26-11 11:06 AM |
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Revolution does not have to be grand. |
kentuck |
Apr-26-11 11:10 AM |
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Well that's the way revolutions usually start. BUT |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-26-11 12:38 PM |
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Not always ... |
TBF |
Apr-26-11 12:46 PM |
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True. Or military dictatorship and Empire......... |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-26-11 12:56 PM |
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Certainly there was no MIC to be concerned about -- Gaddafi is probably better armed than |
defendandprotect |
Apr-26-11 01:24 PM |
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I agree. I even overlooked it myself....... |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-26-11 01:39 PM |
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True -- and if you reflect upon French Revolution -- |
defendandprotect |
Apr-26-11 01:51 PM |
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Obama betrayal of New Deal is waking up Americans -- |
defendandprotect |
Apr-26-11 12:52 PM |
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One thing to think about is how battles for human rights have OVERTURNED economic controls that |
defendandprotect |
Apr-26-11 01:09 PM |
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+1 n/t |
conspirator |
Apr-26-11 09:21 AM |
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What you said, wolf! |
hifiguy |
Apr-26-11 09:32 AM |
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"The capitalists look to destroy their competitors." |
The2ndWheel |
Apr-26-11 09:32 AM |
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Who are the "competitors of capitalism"? |
kentuck |
Apr-26-11 09:33 AM |
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white_wolf seems to be one |
The2ndWheel |
Apr-26-11 09:42 AM |
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Good luck to white_wolf! |
kentuck |
Apr-26-11 09:44 AM |
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I just noticed that destroy was used both ways |
The2ndWheel |
Apr-26-11 10:06 AM |
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There are not 4 discrete answers to the parable. |
Shandris |
Apr-26-11 01:10 PM |
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Other capitalists -- and anyone trying for saner, better products -- ie.., green energy!! |
defendandprotect |
Apr-26-11 01:29 PM |
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Well capitalists not only want to destroy their capitalistic |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-26-11 01:12 PM |
#43 |
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Right, and the US Government only started to expand |
The2ndWheel |
Apr-26-11 01:40 PM |
#57 |
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The concept is monopoly control -- capitalism provides for one owner -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Apr-26-11 01:55 PM |
#65 |
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If I may wolf.................... |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-26-11 01:22 PM |
#46 |
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Tell that to AAs who overturned Segregation, Inc. -- to Homosexuals who are winning human rights ... |
defendandprotect |
Apr-26-11 01:32 PM |
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Oh, I think that AAs, women, and in reality anyone.......... |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-26-11 01:43 PM |
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Dangerous, of course -- but are you saying it's not worthwhile to fight for human rights???? |
defendandprotect |
Apr-26-11 01:48 PM |
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No, no, no! Of course, you fight for human rights........ |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-26-11 02:02 PM |
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Capitalism is an intrinsic part of ALL of these human oppressions ... !!! |
defendandprotect |
Apr-26-11 02:15 PM |
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Well sure it is. I would even say that capitalism is |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-26-11 05:44 PM |
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Well, Bibical slavery and other such concepts of exploitation existed long before capitalism... |
defendandprotect |
Apr-26-11 11:40 PM |
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Exactly ... !! Sign in beauty parlor the other day -- We take ONLY cash and personal checks!! |
defendandprotect |
Apr-26-11 01:27 PM |
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WIN |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-26-11 01:42 PM |
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What we also have to recognize about capitalism is that it doesn't stand alone .... |
defendandprotect |
Apr-26-11 01:45 PM |
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+1 The capitalist system is working exactly as it is supposed to. |
readmoreoften |
Apr-26-11 06:43 PM |
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There could only be one system that would be worse than what we have today |
txlibdem |
Apr-26-11 11:01 PM |
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Agree -- and watching TORTURE re-introduced by our government is another signal .... |
defendandprotect |
Apr-26-11 11:55 PM |
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I wouldn't worry so much about torture |
txlibdem |
Apr-27-11 10:18 AM |
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Right wing follows old tried and true patterns -- simply improving on them -- |
defendandprotect |
Apr-27-11 04:44 PM |
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Capitalism "functions" in fits and starts. |
GillesDeleuze |
Apr-26-11 09:10 AM |
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What you're saying is ... "You can't steal from everyone every day of the week" ... ??? |
defendandprotect |
Apr-26-11 01:35 PM |
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marx used the term zig-zag. |
GillesDeleuze |
Apr-26-11 04:15 PM |
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Did Marx call capitalism fascism? |
defendandprotect |
Apr-26-11 11:56 PM |
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marx was pre-fascist.. the modern death state had not been created |
GillesDeleuze |
Apr-27-11 09:46 AM |
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Fascism traces back to Northern Italy much earlier than Marx .... |
defendandprotect |
Apr-27-11 04:38 PM |
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What system is there that is immune to the greed virus? |
NYC_SKP |
Apr-26-11 09:26 AM |
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Decentralized power which would result in |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-26-11 01:02 PM |
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Actually, it's about violence -- cause without violence, greed cannot have its way ... |
defendandprotect |
Apr-26-11 01:38 PM |
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There is a significant difference between immunity from greed and being predicated on avarice |
TheKentuckian |
Apr-26-11 01:54 PM |
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Yes there is also a significant difference between |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-26-11 06:28 PM |
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Exactly right. Playing into greed systemically is foolhardy, at best. |
TheKentuckian |
Apr-26-11 07:16 PM |
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DEFINITELY suicidal......... |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-26-11 07:19 PM |
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You have that right! |
RegieRocker |
Apr-26-11 10:51 PM |
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Monetary systems create greed. |
txlibdem |
Apr-27-11 09:42 PM |
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Which mass cultural, social, political, or economic system doesn't |
The2ndWheel |
Apr-26-11 09:35 AM |
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Are you talking about dictatorships or...? |
kentuck |
Apr-26-11 09:39 AM |
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I don't know of too many places on the world where |
The2ndWheel |
Apr-26-11 09:55 AM |
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So, can we assume that you believe captialism is the greatest system..? |
kentuck |
Apr-26-11 10:02 AM |
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I'm not a fan of any mass system |
The2ndWheel |
Apr-26-11 10:13 AM |
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So you are not a fan... |
kentuck |
Apr-26-11 10:21 AM |
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Fixing it makes the problem bigger |
The2ndWheel |
Apr-26-11 01:27 PM |
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OK, I think here I can partially agree.......... |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-26-11 01:37 PM |
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"the present system is one of the worst in our history"? |
BOG PERSON |
Apr-26-11 10:42 AM |
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Our present capitalist system... |
kentuck |
Apr-26-11 10:44 AM |
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our present capitalist system? |
BOG PERSON |
Apr-26-11 10:50 AM |
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The present capitalist system with low taxes or no taxes.. |
kentuck |
Apr-26-11 10:52 AM |
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^+1,000 |
upi402 |
Apr-26-11 12:41 PM |
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It's Not Fixed...It's Modified... |
KharmaTrain |
Apr-26-11 10:57 AM |
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This is the very reason that we need an......... |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-26-11 12:51 PM |
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an international party is a bad idea |
BOG PERSON |
Apr-26-11 01:21 PM |
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I disagree. The ONLY way to combat international |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-26-11 06:24 PM |
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i think a fifth international already came and went |
BOG PERSON |
Apr-26-11 07:34 PM |
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I've never heard of a fifth international........ |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-26-11 07:39 PM |
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I did a little checking and |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-26-11 09:41 PM |
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Capitalism is not "broken" - it is functioning exactly as it always has, |
TBF |
Apr-26-11 12:43 PM |
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Something that the apologists never seem to admit |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-26-11 01:04 PM |
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Denial - it's not just a river ... nt |
TBF |
Apr-26-11 01:24 PM |
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Including control over seeds and water -- this is fascist control from cradle to grave ... !!! |
defendandprotect |
Apr-26-11 12:45 PM |
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Capitalism is only as good as its regulation |
StarburstClock |
Apr-26-11 01:04 PM |
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People are broken. |
RegieRocker |
Apr-26-11 01:07 PM |
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Not so correct.......... |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-26-11 01:20 PM |
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Soooo that makes the person broken. You said it yourself. |
RegieRocker |
Apr-26-11 07:32 PM |
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As explained above, it's the difference between SYSTEMIC |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-26-11 07:42 PM |
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Agreed the source is the first thing to attack however |
RegieRocker |
Apr-26-11 07:55 PM |
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The source is the system...... |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-26-11 08:14 PM |
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No no no. The source is man. Greed is one of the seven |
RegieRocker |
Apr-26-11 10:47 PM |
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No,it is working precisely as it's supposed to |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-26-11 01:42 PM |
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Capitalism is working exactly how the Capitalist Ruling Class want it. |
Odin2005 |
Apr-26-11 02:53 PM |
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+1 |
leftstreet |
Apr-26-11 05:49 PM |
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....a fair, just Capitalism is a theoretical creation |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-26-11 06:41 PM |
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One of the biggest problems is the fact that the capitalists are much smarter than their feudal |
white_wolf |
Apr-26-11 03:10 PM |
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Voting is a charade. The 2 party system is a charade |
upi402 |
Apr-27-11 10:24 AM |
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Yeah. |
white_wolf |
Apr-27-11 03:31 PM |
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We don't want to think too long on that one... |
kentuck |
Apr-27-11 03:38 PM |
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Monopoly, not just a game anymore |
upi402 |
Apr-27-11 04:26 PM |
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It needs repair as a rabid dog needs a vet. |
Fool Count |
Apr-26-11 07:43 PM |
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No budget for repairs. Sorry, they spent it all on Bentleys for their kids. |
kenny blankenship |
Apr-27-11 10:06 PM |
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March harder |
MedleyMisty |
Apr-27-11 10:06 PM |
#103 |
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