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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-11 09:46 PM
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34. I am trying to feel the shame.
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  -Would you have voted for FDR after he said that public-sector unions should be banned? LoZoccolo  Apr-25-11 09:23 PM   #0 
  - Wait besides republicans  Drale   Apr-25-11 09:25 PM   #1 
  - Franklin Delano-fucken-Roosevelt, mah-man.  LoZoccolo   Apr-25-11 09:27 PM   #2 
     - Really? I never heard that before.  Drale   Apr-25-11 09:28 PM   #3 
     - Link? Source?  Electric Monk   Apr-25-11 09:31 PM   #11 
        - So, they could form a union but should not bargain or strike.  LoZoccolo   Apr-25-11 09:36 PM   #16 
           - Which is not what you claimed in your OP. Retract or Delete.  tekisui   Apr-25-11 09:43 PM   #26 
              - I got it so wrong.  LoZoccolo   Apr-25-11 09:44 PM   #27 
                 - Still time to edit?  tekisui   Apr-25-11 09:45 PM   #29 
                    - I am trying to feel the shame.  LoZoccolo   Apr-25-11 09:46 PM   #34 
                       - Not hard enough. Is the edit window closed?  tekisui   Apr-25-11 09:47 PM   #35 
                          - Saving face will never be the point. The point is the propaganda. FDR's stance  Luminous Animal   Apr-25-11 09:59 PM   #54 
                             - Maybe I should ask people if the unions should be banned from striking.  LoZoccolo   Apr-25-11 10:03 PM   #58 
                             - No indication from the letter that FDR sought an official ban, either.  Luminous Animal   Apr-25-11 10:09 PM   #63 
                                - Obama could say the same thing and people would be cool with it  LoZoccolo   Apr-25-11 10:11 PM   #67 
                                   - There were plenty of union organizers who were not cool with FDR's stance then.  Luminous Animal   Apr-25-11 10:13 PM   #70 
                                   - I should hope we are moving foward and not holding to the 1940s as our standard.  tekisui   Apr-25-11 10:15 PM   #73 
                             - The mistake was on porpoise! n/t  Mimosa   Apr-25-11 10:17 PM   #78 
                                - Of course it was. He is disrupting poorly.  tekisui   Apr-25-11 10:22 PM   #83 
                                   - Maybe this thread will be the straw that finally breaks the camels back.  Electric Monk   Apr-25-11 10:25 PM   #85 
                                      - Jeezus we can hope. It's been a long fucking time coming.  tekisui   Apr-25-11 10:26 PM   #86 
  - He never said that. He supported bargaining, but was against striking  leftstreet   Apr-25-11 09:28 PM   #4 
  - Nope.  LoZoccolo   Apr-25-11 09:28 PM   #8 
  - Yep  leftstreet   Apr-25-11 09:30 PM   #10 
     - Back to you but more of it infinity.  LoZoccolo   Apr-25-11 09:32 PM   #12 
     - Oy. nt  blondeatlast   Apr-25-11 09:40 PM   #23 
     - Look at #11.  LoZoccolo   Apr-25-11 09:34 PM   #15 
        - But...that proves what I said  leftstreet   Apr-25-11 09:36 PM   #17 
  - Bargaining without the option of a strike  TheBigotBasher   Apr-25-11 09:46 PM   #33 
  - Agree. But FDR was (technically) speaking to the issue of "public good"  leftstreet   Apr-25-11 09:51 PM   #44 
  - Actually, many public employees bargain just fine without the threat of strike...  Luminous Animal   Apr-25-11 09:56 PM   #51 
  - You are right, leftstreet. Here is more from the letter...  Luminous Animal   Apr-25-11 09:51 PM   #45 
  - Probably, but that depends on who was running against  socialist_n_TN   Apr-25-11 09:28 PM   #5 
  - Gee, I dunno. What else did he do and/or say?  blondeatlast   Apr-25-11 09:28 PM   #6 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-25-11 09:28 PM   #7 
  - Not even FDR is as good as FDR.  LoZoccolo   Apr-25-11 09:29 PM   #9 
  - I don't vote for institutional racists, but I think I am in the minority on DU for that stance.  ZombieHorde   Apr-25-11 09:32 PM   #13 
  - Oh don't be so dramatic.  NYC Liberal   Apr-25-11 09:37 PM   #19 
  - Totally agree. One of the most shameful times in US history.  tekisui   Apr-25-11 09:37 PM   #20 
  - Well now ain't  Dyedinthewoolliberal   Apr-25-11 10:31 PM   #89 
     - Do you feel the same about slavery?  ZombieHorde   Apr-25-11 10:41 PM   #91 
        - You don't think it's a bit of a leap  Dyedinthewoolliberal   Apr-25-11 11:23 PM   #96 
           - "How will we be viewed?" I view us extremely poorly.  ZombieHorde   Apr-25-11 11:30 PM   #97 
  - Geez, of course. If I'm gonna vote for Obama I'd sure as heck vote for a liberal  Zorra   Apr-25-11 09:33 PM   #14 
  - Did he say they should be banned?  tekisui   Apr-25-11 09:36 PM   #18 
  - No, he did not.  Luminous Animal   Apr-25-11 09:49 PM   #41 
     - Didn't thnk so. Wonder what this OP was going for.  tekisui   Apr-25-11 09:54 PM   #48 
        - Similar to what every right wing pundit & discussion board is going for... undermine the left.  Luminous Animal   Apr-25-11 10:05 PM   #62 
           - That's why I explicitly said that I was for FDR.  LoZoccolo   Apr-25-11 10:16 PM   #75 
              - Given that he did not support banning public unions, I'm not sure you know the meaining of support.  Luminous Animal   Apr-25-11 10:21 PM   #82 
  - To be perfectly honest I would have voted for Norman Thomas.  Puregonzo1188   Apr-25-11 09:38 PM   #21 
  - Norman Thomas would have been a great president.  white_wolf   Apr-25-11 09:41 PM   #25 
  - And don't forget Debs!  tekisui   Apr-25-11 09:49 PM   #40 
  - Got a source for that? This is DU. Lots of critical thinkers here.  blondeatlast   Apr-25-11 09:39 PM   #22 
  - I have a hostile witness in reply #11.  LoZoccolo   Apr-25-11 09:40 PM   #24 
  - You're moving the goalposts. Reply #11 did not validate your OP. nt  Electric Monk   Apr-25-11 09:44 PM   #28 
  - As long as he gets his FLAME BAIT on!  tekisui   Apr-25-11 09:46 PM   #31 
     - He's gotta get that Minimum Daily Requirement in, you know. nt  blondeatlast   Apr-25-11 09:47 PM   #36 
        - A strange obsession or compulsion. Not sure which it is.  tekisui   Apr-25-11 09:48 PM   #37 
  - A Yahoo question board? Please pay attention, this is 2011 and you are holding the class back. nt  blondeatlast   Apr-25-11 09:46 PM   #32 
     - I also keep posting that Democrats have accomplished nothing over and over.  LoZoccolo   Apr-25-11 09:48 PM   #38 
        - Document or retract.  tekisui   Apr-25-11 09:51 PM   #43 
           - And I act creepy and stalk certain peoples' threads repeatedly.  LoZoccolo   Apr-25-11 09:53 PM   #47 
              - You shouldn't admit to that.  tekisui   Apr-25-11 09:55 PM   #49 
                 - I just want to warn people of dangerous trolls.  LoZoccolo   Apr-25-11 09:58 PM   #53 
                    - You are warning on yourself? Nice!  Luminous Animal   Apr-25-11 10:00 PM   #56 
                    - You would know.  tekisui   Apr-25-11 10:02 PM   #57 
                       - We need heroes to point this out, even if it sounds smug and obsessive.  LoZoccolo   Apr-25-11 10:04 PM   #60 
                          - I will step up. LoZoccolo, you are a troll on DU. You are a disruptor  tekisui   Apr-25-11 10:27 PM   #87 
                             - What if he's not a troll? What if he's know, disadvantaged?  leftstreet   Apr-25-11 10:42 PM   #92 
                                - I never considered that. And now I feel awful!  tekisui   Apr-25-11 10:44 PM   #94 
  - Nope. FDR did not advocate for banning public unions. He was against public unions striking...  Luminous Animal   Apr-25-11 09:52 PM   #46 
  - absolutely, but only in 1932....  unkachuck   Apr-25-11 09:45 PM   #30 
  - :'(  LoZoccolo   Apr-25-11 10:00 PM   #55 
  - Funny how all over the internet, right wingers forget this part (and it appears that you've  Luminous Animal   Apr-25-11 09:49 PM   #39 
  - "Organizations of Government employees have a logical place in Government affairs."  Cerridwen   Apr-25-11 09:50 PM   #42 
  - He congratulated the NFE on THEIR OWN decision to preclude striking. HUGE difference.  blondeatlast   Apr-25-11 09:55 PM   #50 
  - Link?  tekisui   Apr-25-11 09:56 PM   #52 
  - Cerridwen posted the link to the letter above... I'll add it here.  Luminous Animal   Apr-25-11 10:03 PM   #59 
     - I have to a public employee I was barred from striking by the Taylor Law.  Historic NY   Apr-25-11 10:12 PM   #69 
  - Ah, is the DLC demonizing FDR today?  Bluebear   Apr-25-11 10:04 PM   #61 
  - Every time a pundit says Obama coulda been like FDR, FDR loses a wing  leftstreet   Apr-25-11 10:09 PM   #64 
  - I personally can't buy into that he is DLC.  tekisui   Apr-25-11 10:10 PM   #65 
  - I think you may be right. strangely silent since he's been challenged. nt  blondeatlast   Apr-25-11 10:16 PM   # 
  - I've seen several of this same subject from the same poster.  Luminous Animal   Apr-25-11 10:10 PM   #66 
  - Put up or shut up--too many in this thread have done the classwork for you (and proven you WRONG).  blondeatlast   Apr-25-11 10:11 PM   #68 
  - Disruptors don't work like that.  tekisui   Apr-25-11 10:14 PM   #71 
  - I feel so misguided about this.  LoZoccolo   Apr-25-11 10:15 PM   #72 
  - You claimed it--own it or STFU. nt  blondeatlast   Apr-25-11 10:17 PM   #76 
  - You love the attention.  tekisui   Apr-25-11 10:17 PM   #77 
  - Oh, I've little doubt he knows the entire story but it's the misleading snip  Luminous Animal   Apr-25-11 10:16 PM   #74 
  - He wanted flames, he got them. That is really the long and short of it.  tekisui   Apr-25-11 10:18 PM   #79 
  - "B, b, b, b, buuuut I've been miiiisguiiiided... (visualize welling eyes and quvering lip). nt  blondeatlast   Apr-25-11 10:43 PM   #93 
  - Prolly too busy hanging with nutty right wingers nt  abelenkpe   Apr-25-11 10:22 PM   #84 
  - He never said any such thing.  Bluenorthwest   Apr-25-11 10:19 PM   #80 
  - .  Guy Whitey Corngood   Apr-25-11 10:21 PM   #81 
  - This is a right-wing talking point  Hugabear   Apr-25-11 10:31 PM   #88 
  - Even after he was told, the OP chose not to edit or acknowledge.  tekisui   Apr-25-11 10:36 PM   #90 
  - Great time travel hypothesis.  Mimosa   Apr-25-11 11:09 PM   #95 
  - Propaganda thread  themadstork   Apr-25-11 11:45 PM   #98 
  - locking  TrogL   Apr-26-11 12:35 AM   #99 

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