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Mon Apr-25-11 01:09 AM
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| 29. The problem with opposing republicans |
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is that so many want in on it. Well, that's a good thing, but sometimes we celebrate our diversity and at other times we just diverge. A mad king is opposed by nobles, merchants, and peasants, all from different angles with different agendas.
When the Democrats are in charge, we have expectations that are as diverse as our views, and most are only met partially if at all. There is even a diversity of reactions to this situation, some accept it, others call bullshit.
I am of the opinion that the republicans have to be stopped, even with a half-assed one term president. But the top rate tax cut extension and the budget debates crossed a line. The Democratic leadership is trying to look more reasonable than the gop by looking like them. I'll add to your baseball analogy with one from football. You know the guy in touch football that can't cover the receiver so he just yells out something to make him drop the ball? That's the republicans, they seem to have power when they're the minority. At some point the Dems just have to catch the freaking ball yell or no yell.
The intra-party debate and the goal of winning elections are connected. There has to be at least a little something for all the diverse groups to sign off on, not just the abscense of republicans, important as that is.
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| -Fellow woodchucks: I'm wondering if we should all think about where we should draw the line. |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-24-11 11:11 PM |
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Go for it. |
tekisui |
Apr-24-11 11:13 PM |
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I found the "Woodchuck Manifesto": |
PassingFair |
Apr-25-11 07:02 AM |
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Let's do something |
PBS Poll-435 |
Apr-24-11 11:17 PM |
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I've read your post three times, and I still don't understand it. |
stevedeshazer |
Apr-24-11 11:24 PM |
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Think of me as being Fleetwood Mac, and this post as being my /Tusk/. |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-24-11 11:33 PM |
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Excellent ! |
WheelWalker |
Apr-25-11 12:27 AM |
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You mean Mick Fleetwood's pet name for his penis? OK... nt |
Umbral |
Apr-25-11 12:32 AM |
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It's your PENIS?? You are getting more far out by the day. |
Bluebear |
Apr-25-11 01:00 AM |
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Strangely, I think I understand your post |
DeadEyeDyck |
Apr-24-11 11:25 PM |
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You may have a point. |
bluestate10 |
Apr-24-11 11:38 PM |
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Not anymore are the Northeastern states all blue. NH? purple at best and |
cali |
Apr-25-11 08:46 AM |
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I think we all should've drawn a line some time ago |
RufusTFirefly |
Apr-24-11 11:28 PM |
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If you think the woodchucks are all you need at the ballot box, then go for it nt |
AlabamaLibrul |
Apr-24-11 11:29 PM |
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I am convinced that the sane action is to start cultivating democratic |
bluestate10 |
Apr-24-11 11:30 PM |
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The vast majority of the left will vote for Obama -- even those who will claim otherwise online. |
BzaDem |
Apr-24-11 11:35 PM |
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Me and the other "negligibles" |
AlabamaLibrul |
Apr-24-11 11:39 PM |
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Oh, I'm not claiming you'll vote for Obama in the primary. |
BzaDem |
Apr-24-11 11:43 PM |
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All I have to say is that I would never vote for a (R) in a general. |
AlabamaLibrul |
Apr-25-11 12:36 AM |
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All I'm saying is you'll likely vote for the D in the general, either this election or a more |
BzaDem |
Apr-25-11 06:52 AM |
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Primary? |
Le Taz Hot |
Apr-25-11 09:13 AM |
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I went the "full Nader" in 2000 |
Blue_In_AK |
Apr-25-11 12:19 AM |
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Who did you vote for in 2004? n/t |
BzaDem |
Apr-25-11 12:26 AM |
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John Kerry, |
Blue_In_AK |
Apr-25-11 12:30 AM |
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Something tells me if Kerry ran in 2000 and Gore ran in 2004 |
BzaDem |
Apr-25-11 06:51 AM |
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Whatever is telling you that is incorrect. |
Blue_In_AK |
Apr-25-11 11:52 AM |
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Nader and Nader voters were not responsible for bush taking office. |
tekisui |
Apr-25-11 08:51 AM |
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The Republican primary may be a good time. |
ZombieHorde |
Apr-24-11 11:44 PM |
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K & R, just remember... |
freshwest |
Apr-24-11 11:50 PM |
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So apparently winning is all that matters to you, right, |
Blue_In_AK |
Apr-25-11 12:16 AM |
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Seriously, some of these people would cheer president Ben Nelson and then shout us down |
white_wolf |
Apr-25-11 12:20 AM |
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It seems that way sometimes. |
Blue_In_AK |
Apr-25-11 12:26 AM |
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No, that's not right; it's a strawman. |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-25-11 12:21 AM |
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Document or retract. |
tekisui |
Apr-25-11 08:40 AM |
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Sounds accurate. |
Bluebear |
Apr-25-11 01:01 AM |
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To some people politics is nothing but a game. |
Marrah_G |
Apr-25-11 07:07 AM |
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Part of that is getting the word out against the right...but the inter-party complaining |
Snoutport |
Apr-25-11 12:39 AM |
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your baseball story is wrong |
hfojvt |
Apr-25-11 12:57 AM |
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The problem with opposing republicans |
Cresent City Kid |
Apr-25-11 01:09 AM |
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Does this mean less intentionally divisive posts? |
Marrah_G |
Apr-25-11 07:06 AM |
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LOLOLOL!!!!!! |
tekisui |
Apr-25-11 09:09 AM |
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!! |
Bluebear |
Apr-25-11 03:13 PM |
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Just a reminder, as you have labeled yourself: |
tekisui |
Apr-25-11 09:08 AM |
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hahahahahaha |
Marrah_G |
Apr-25-11 09:10 AM |
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Blarg... |
rusty fender |
Apr-25-11 09:32 AM |
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DO woodchucks draw a line?........ |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-25-11 10:06 AM |
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Serious Question: WHY? |
Chris_Texas |
Apr-25-11 12:21 PM |
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when the (R)s have a candidate we can focus our anger at |
Motown_Johnny |
Apr-25-11 12:24 PM |
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