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Sun Apr-24-11 12:07 AM
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| 4. Criticism loses it's impact when it has become a constant beat. |
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It is now like a broken record. Criticize at will, nothing has stopped it yet. But the whine is loud and the meaning is not there.
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| -The Campaign Has Started, Now is the Time For the Most Vocal Critique From the Left |
tekisui |
Apr-23-11 11:52 PM |
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Now is when they will lie the most vehemently |
Hawkowl |
Apr-23-11 11:57 PM |
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More vocal than the last 2 years? |
jaxx |
Apr-24-11 12:00 AM |
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Are you saying we shouldn't be critical of this administration? |
white_wolf |
Apr-24-11 12:03 AM |
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Criticism loses it's impact when it has become a constant beat. |
jaxx |
Apr-24-11 12:07 AM |
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GMTA !!! :) n/t |
Tx4obama |
Apr-24-11 12:11 AM |
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I'm Going To Constantly Criticize |
Kalun D |
Apr-24-11 02:33 AM |
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We've been given so much to criticize. |
tekisui |
Apr-24-11 08:51 AM |
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It only becomes a constant beat when it's being actively IGNORED. |
Donnachaidh |
Apr-24-11 09:29 AM |
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It's the disagreement |
ReggieVeggie |
Apr-24-11 12:19 PM |
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Utter nonsense. The only constant beat has been the right-wing politics. |
JackRiddler |
Apr-24-11 02:02 PM |
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I find it disgusting the Barack Obama brigade has nothing better to do than tell people to shut up |
AlabamaLibrul |
Apr-24-11 10:37 PM |
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The problem is that there has been constant bitching about Obama & the Obama administration |
Tx4obama |
Apr-24-11 12:09 AM |
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perhaps parallel to the constant backpedaling and concessions since the inauguration? |
villager |
Apr-24-11 12:11 AM |
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Oh come on ... folks bitch even when Obama does good things. |
Tx4obama |
Apr-24-11 12:12 AM |
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Apr-24-11 12:18 AM |
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Why get personal about it? |
jaxx |
Apr-24-11 12:25 AM |
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You mean like using the word "bitching" when someone disagrees? |
villager |
Apr-24-11 03:38 PM |
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So much for all the centrists' arguments that we should "make him do it" |
readmoreoften |
Apr-24-11 12:17 AM |
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I am so damn sick of these moderates and pragmatic centrists. |
white_wolf |
Apr-24-11 12:27 AM |
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It would appear that they know something about effectiveness that the left does not. |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-24-11 12:29 AM |
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Apr-24-11 12:36 AM |
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Apr-24-11 12:46 AM |
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yeah all that wonderful |
libmom74 |
Apr-24-11 01:18 AM |
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Document or retract. |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-24-11 02:08 AM |
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Are you serious? We lost the House in 2010. Almost lost the Senate. |
tekisui |
Apr-24-11 09:37 AM |
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No, not that. |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-24-11 10:36 AM |
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Apr-24-11 12:31 PM |
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Yeah |
Kalun D |
Apr-24-11 02:40 AM |
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The congressional Democrats have a significant voting record in opposition to Republicans. |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-24-11 02:52 AM |
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Yeah |
Kalun D |
Apr-24-11 04:10 AM |
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Effectiveness??!!?!?! |
tekisui |
Apr-24-11 08:53 AM |
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Like trying to fill a bowl with the last drippings of a can of Campbell's Tomato Soup nt |
AlabamaLibrul |
Apr-24-11 10:40 PM |
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Apr-24-11 09:39 AM |
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Effective at what, facilitating and abetting the corporate takeover of the country |
TheKentuckian |
Apr-24-11 12:00 PM |
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It kind-of doesn't matter when you're discussing the raw strategy. |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-24-11 12:44 PM |
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I know how they do it. How is pretty easy. Unfortunately their means are in opposition to my ends. |
TheKentuckian |
Apr-24-11 12:57 PM |
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YEt, when I say the Dems need to play tough like the repukes do I am scoffed. |
tekisui |
Apr-24-11 11:11 PM |
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I'm a liberal small town girl |
xmas74 |
Apr-24-11 07:02 PM |
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+1 |
sendero |
Apr-24-11 09:35 AM |
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+1 |
JVS |
Apr-24-11 01:33 PM |
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Maybe We Are Constantly Bitching |
Kalun D |
Apr-24-11 02:37 AM |
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So, let's see if I understand you correctly |
Tx4obama |
Apr-24-11 02:49 AM |
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Watch the Film (are you afraid?) |
Kalun D |
Apr-24-11 04:02 AM |
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Stop the deafening roar of the crickets! |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Apr-24-11 09:55 AM |
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Nailed it. Good post. Thanks. nt |
PufPuf23 |
Apr-24-11 11:49 AM |
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Exactly! I had this argument with |
libmom74 |
Apr-24-11 01:07 PM |
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If he hadn't started off by making terrible appointments, |
LWolf |
Apr-24-11 02:06 PM |
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"aren't doing a damn thing" |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-24-11 12:26 AM |
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Problem is votes are taken for granted, people underestimate their power... |
slipslidingaway |
Apr-24-11 12:33 AM |
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"no doubt there might be some short term suffering" |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-24-11 02:14 AM |
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We got two choices at this time, |
Autumn |
Apr-24-11 10:47 AM |
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And yet you are responsible for nominating one of the two choices. |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-24-11 11:08 AM |
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Maybe you are right. We were sold a carefully crafted |
Autumn |
Apr-24-11 11:22 AM |
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Yes, not very good choices ... |
slipslidingaway |
Apr-24-11 10:35 PM |
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That is exactly what she is saying. |
Bluebear |
Apr-24-11 01:25 AM |
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That time is long overdue. |
Cascadian |
Apr-24-11 12:15 PM |
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Get His Back? |
Kalun D |
Apr-24-11 02:20 AM |
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Perhaps we should be more vocal. |
Cascadian |
Apr-24-11 12:34 PM |
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Yes, when warranted. |
tekisui |
Apr-24-11 08:51 AM |
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It would appear that the campaign is center right |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Apr-24-11 12:08 AM |
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No, it's center left. |
jaxx |
Apr-24-11 12:12 AM |
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I'm not so sure about that |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Apr-24-11 12:20 AM |
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You can count on it. |
jaxx |
Apr-24-11 12:26 AM |
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It is center center. |
tekisui |
Apr-24-11 08:54 AM |
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Anyone who can talk about "shared sacrifice" when our whole economy |
EFerrari |
Apr-24-11 09:05 AM |
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You hit that out of the park n/t |
Autumn |
Apr-24-11 10:49 AM |
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Wish this could be rec'd. nt |
xmas74 |
Apr-24-11 07:06 PM |
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It's more Center tilted to the right. (n/t) |
Cascadian |
Apr-24-11 12:51 PM |
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Unfortunately I do not see that happening now, the time to push back from ... |
slipslidingaway |
Apr-24-11 12:16 AM |
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"Also, criticism from the left strengthens the party and helps to distinguish us from the repukes." |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-24-11 12:23 AM |
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I'm talking about honest criticism of bad policies. |
tekisui |
Apr-24-11 09:18 AM |
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Also, criticism is less likely to be responded to favorably if it becomes apparent |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-24-11 12:24 AM |
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+1 |
JoePhilly |
Apr-24-11 08:53 AM |
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Meh. If we ever had a favorable response, you may have a point. |
tekisui |
Apr-24-11 08:55 AM |
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play evocative music |
Mulhane |
Apr-24-11 02:19 AM |
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Hate To Say This |
Kalun D |
Apr-24-11 02:28 AM |
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I'm not sure he can be pushed. I haven't seen evidence. |
mmonk |
Apr-24-11 08:59 AM |
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sure they listen, then promise the moon, and promptly tells them after the election |
Donnachaidh |
Apr-24-11 09:34 AM |
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OK. If nothing else, it's kind of fun to piss off conservatives. nt |
Zorra |
Apr-24-11 11:41 AM |
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Thank you! Couldn't have said it better myself! |
Cascadian |
Apr-24-11 12:14 PM |
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What we need is a left version of the Tea Party. |
Cascadian |
Apr-24-11 12:17 PM |
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The problem is that the teaparty was a manufactured, paid for Koch industry |
glowing |
Apr-24-11 02:12 PM |
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We need (as a country) a more vocal critique of the presidency from the the Dems in congress. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Apr-24-11 02:10 PM |
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The trouble with that is that some so-called Democrats don't want criticism of the Pres. |
Cascadian |
Apr-24-11 09:27 PM |
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The campaign started on Jan 21, 2009 for the republicans |
SoCalDem |
Apr-24-11 05:34 PM |
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no center |
mountainlion55 |
Apr-24-11 06:38 PM |
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Yeah, I remember summer of '68........ |
socialist_n_TN |
Apr-24-11 06:51 PM |
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Well the horse is out of the barn on this one... |
Safetykitten |
Apr-24-11 11:35 PM |
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Campaign season is when critiques from the left sever no other purpose |
VeryConfused |
Apr-25-11 09:42 AM |
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Apr-25-11 10:46 AM |
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