tekisui
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Fri Apr-22-11 09:44 PM
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| 19. I don't think we intentionally bomb villages. Absolutely not. |
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I think we work hard to avoid that. But, our own hubris and might-makes-right attitude prevents us from seeing the damage we do. I think we cause more harm than good. I am just not convinced that all or even most of these people would be against us if we weren't bombing their neighbors.
Dead civilians at the hands of a pilotless drone is an easy recruitment tool. And, what we are doing is nothing new. Years into it, can you show that these tactics have had any positive effect for us?
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| -25 Dead (5 Children, 3 Women) in US Missile Strikes (Pakistan) |
tekisui |
Apr-22-11 08:47 PM |
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Sad but |
Egnever |
Apr-22-11 08:54 PM |
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............. |
Angry Dragon |
Apr-22-11 08:57 PM |
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Is it a hotbead radical Islamic terrorists? |
tekisui |
Apr-22-11 09:00 PM |
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I guess you and I will never know for sure |
Egnever |
Apr-22-11 09:23 PM |
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I don't think we intentionally bomb villages. Absolutely not. |
tekisui |
Apr-22-11 09:44 PM |
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I could agree with you to an extent |
Egnever |
Apr-22-11 09:53 PM |
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I guess the question in my mind is whether we are making it better or worse. |
tekisui |
Apr-22-11 09:56 PM |
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I question that as well |
Egnever |
Apr-22-11 10:06 PM |
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Have you ever considered they hate us because we bomb the shit out of |
tekisui |
Apr-22-11 10:07 PM |
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And why do they hate spain and france and indonesia |
Egnever |
Apr-22-11 10:10 PM |
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Is that problem helped by our bombing? |
tekisui |
Apr-22-11 10:12 PM |
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Oh boy |
Egnever |
Apr-22-11 10:16 PM |
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Allow "them" to do what, exactly? |
tekisui |
Apr-22-11 10:21 PM |
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Seriously? Are you trying to say there arent attacks being carried out worldwide? |
Egnever |
Apr-22-11 10:31 PM |
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Be afraid!!!!! |
tekisui |
Apr-22-11 10:35 PM |
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I am not the least bit afraid |
Egnever |
Apr-22-11 10:38 PM |
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Nice try at deflection. |
tekisui |
Apr-22-11 10:43 PM |
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Well then I guess we dissagree. |
Egnever |
Apr-22-11 10:44 PM |
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I shake your hand here. We disagree. And so be it. |
tekisui |
Apr-22-11 10:47 PM |
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Apr-22-11 10:58 PM |
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I hear you. I regret the offer. |
tekisui |
Apr-22-11 11:01 PM |
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my take on the reason for such events |
Vehl |
Apr-23-11 01:09 PM |
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What if another 'Super Power' were here, occupying the US? |
Mimosa |
Apr-22-11 11:25 PM |
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Evidently not sad enough |
atreides1 |
Apr-22-11 09:00 PM |
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I dont dispute that |
Egnever |
Apr-22-11 09:24 PM |
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So am I. nt |
bluestate10 |
Apr-22-11 09:34 PM |
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Why? |
MadHound |
Apr-22-11 09:37 PM |
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And these villagers success rate is what? |
Egnever |
Apr-22-11 09:40 PM |
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Not pious bullshit, |
MadHound |
Apr-22-11 09:43 PM |
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Yes theres never any reason for it they just point at a map and say bomb them |
Egnever |
Apr-22-11 09:44 PM |
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Apr-22-11 09:47 PM |
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LOL |
Egnever |
Apr-22-11 09:50 PM |
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Well, I guess we're even, for I find your lack of a conscience chilling |
MadHound |
Apr-22-11 09:51 PM |
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LOL |
Egnever |
Apr-22-11 09:53 PM |
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Apr-22-11 10:57 PM |
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LOL |
Egnever |
Apr-22-11 11:05 PM |
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+1 |
tekisui |
Apr-22-11 11:11 PM |
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Ah, so we're engaging in the preventative killing of innocents. Kill innocents now so they don't |
themadstork |
Apr-22-11 09:59 PM |
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So you would find it better if they were killing innocent americans or europeans instead then. |
Egnever |
Apr-22-11 10:08 PM |
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Apr-22-11 10:59 PM |
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wow losing it I see |
Egnever |
Apr-22-11 11:06 PM |
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Wow, to an extent that was a caricature of your position. |
themadstork |
Apr-22-11 11:22 PM |
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So, would it be terrorism if one of the relatives of these dead people |
Vinnie From Indy |
Apr-23-11 05:48 PM |
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You're being very trite with people's lives |
DisgustipatedinCA |
Apr-23-11 12:31 PM |
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I agree. I hate how the "war is hell" line has become an all-purpose excuse for amoral behavior. |
themadstork |
Apr-23-11 01:00 PM |
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So you're OK with the US illegally, immorally killing the population of a country |
MadHound |
Apr-22-11 09:35 PM |
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Thats purely your opinion not mine |
Egnever |
Apr-22-11 09:38 PM |
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Not a matter of opinion, a matter of fact |
MadHound |
Apr-22-11 09:40 PM |
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LOL |
Egnever |
Apr-22-11 09:43 PM |
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What terrorists? |
MadHound |
Apr-22-11 09:50 PM |
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This wasnt in afghanistan |
Egnever |
Apr-22-11 10:02 PM |
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Ah, so according to your reckoning, |
MadHound |
Apr-22-11 10:23 PM |
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first what makes you so sure these peopl;e havent commited any crimes? |
Egnever |
Apr-22-11 10:32 PM |
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So, you're advocating for the position of guilty until proven innocent? |
MadHound |
Apr-22-11 10:37 PM |
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LOL |
Egnever |
Apr-22-11 10:40 PM |
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Your arguments in this thread, such as they are, are some seriously weak sauce. |
Forkboy |
Apr-22-11 10:55 PM |
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Another chorus boy joins in |
Egnever |
Apr-22-11 11:04 PM |
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You love the attention, admit it. |
Forkboy |
Apr-22-11 11:17 PM |
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+1000 |
polly7 |
Apr-23-11 02:53 PM |
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He's right. Your attempts at shaming him are misguided |
DisgustipatedinCA |
Apr-23-11 12:34 PM |
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You have also blamed the women and children for "allowing" themselves to be used as shields. |
themadstork |
Apr-22-11 10:03 PM |
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Apr-22-11 10:12 PM |
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Apr-22-11 10:36 PM |
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Apr-22-11 10:36 PM |
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Not everybody can pick up and move at the drop of a hat. |
themadstork |
Apr-22-11 11:23 PM |
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Those weak and sorry women and children, right? |
tekisui |
Apr-22-11 11:19 PM |
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Kind of like blaming the rape victim for living next door to a rapist. |
themadstork |
Apr-22-11 11:27 PM |
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Predictable but |
gratuitous |
Apr-22-11 09:50 PM |
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So another person willing to believe some villager over our military inteligence |
Egnever |
Apr-22-11 10:13 PM |
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put me on that list too |
DisgustipatedinCA |
Apr-23-11 12:39 PM |
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Wow, got it in one |
gratuitous |
Apr-23-11 06:13 PM |
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"Let us win your hearts and minds.... |
atreides1 |
Apr-22-11 08:55 PM |
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Video Wars |
Angry Dragon |
Apr-22-11 08:59 PM |
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If women and children allow terrorists to gain cover among them, the US should |
bluestate10 |
Apr-22-11 09:32 PM |
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Apr-22-11 09:45 PM |
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Amazing position you are taking. |
tekisui |
Apr-22-11 09:52 PM |
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Apr-22-11 09:54 PM |
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Gives no other option? |
themadstork |
Apr-22-11 10:06 PM |
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I would move |
Egnever |
Apr-22-11 10:14 PM |
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You are so much better than the average Pakistani, huh? |
tekisui |
Apr-22-11 10:38 PM |
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Nope probably no better |
Egnever |
Apr-22-11 10:46 PM |
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Apr-22-11 10:50 PM |
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Nope children have no choice |
Egnever |
Apr-22-11 11:02 PM |
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Well, your subject line is correct, at least. |
Forkboy |
Apr-22-11 10:57 PM |
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Apr-22-11 11:08 PM |
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Apr-22-11 11:23 PM |
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They try to kill us because we are there, killing them. |
tekisui |
Apr-23-11 12:19 PM |
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um....you DO live in a neighborhood full of people plotting to kill others |
DisgustipatedinCA |
Apr-23-11 12:41 PM |
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And how would you propose that children disallow terrorists |
Bluenorthwest |
Apr-22-11 10:15 PM |
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Whats sick is these asshats using children as sheilds |
Egnever |
Apr-22-11 10:18 PM |
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Likewise it is sick the US military killing children, don't you think? |
tekisui |
Apr-22-11 10:48 PM |
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You didn't answer the question. |
Forkboy |
Apr-22-11 10:58 PM |
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It wasnt a serious question |
Egnever |
Apr-22-11 11:10 PM |
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Well, you're clearly beyond shaming, that's for sure. |
Forkboy |
Apr-22-11 11:16 PM |
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By that logic, we should have bombed New Jersey and California, too. |
EFerrari |
Apr-22-11 10:59 PM |
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Nope. Completely different circumstances. Terrorists use women and children as shields. |
bluestate10 |
Apr-23-11 12:48 PM |
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Kill them before they become terrorists? Kill so that we create more |
tekisui |
Apr-23-11 12:51 PM |
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Right. By your logic, we should have bombed California and New Jersey |
EFerrari |
Apr-23-11 10:02 PM |
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Apr-22-11 10:52 PM |
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knr - there were over 4 million people displaced in Iraq in a country of 25 million... |
slipslidingaway |
Apr-22-11 10:58 PM |
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Agreed |
The Northerner |
Apr-23-11 02:40 AM |
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KIck!!!! |
tekisui |
Apr-22-11 11:24 PM |
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Terrorists=innocents unless it is the Pakistani army fighting them and then |
JCMach1 |
Apr-23-11 12:38 AM |
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The day will arrive soon where a terrorist can be killed in a strike that |
bluestate10 |
Apr-23-11 12:55 PM |
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Jesus. |
Forkboy |
Apr-23-11 01:18 PM |
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No doubt the murderer directing the missiles will be put on trial. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Apr-23-11 12:27 PM |
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No. And they should not. Soldiers are following orders. I view orders |
bluestate10 |
Apr-23-11 01:00 PM |
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You believe those fear-mongering lies? |
tekisui |
Apr-23-11 01:12 PM |
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Murder is murder. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Apr-23-11 01:15 PM |
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kicked |
The Midway Rebel |
Apr-23-11 01:50 PM |
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Why is it that warmongers are such bad spellers? |
Vinnie From Indy |
Apr-23-11 05:46 PM |
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I had high hopes two years ago |
formernaderite |
Apr-23-11 05:59 PM |
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