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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-11 09:53 PM
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34. They UNDERSTAND that you strike when the iron is hot.
Edited on Wed Apr-20-11 10:41 PM by kenny blankenship
Dems don't fucking get it. America is in crisis and that emergency will allow SOME PARTY to put its ideological program into action for a long fucking time to come. One party or the other is going to put its stamp on the institutions of government for the next 30-70 years. Democrats don't really want to be that party because they don't actually believe in anything - they just kinda wanta be like Republicans with their super-rich corporate friends, just not quite so crazy. They are led by a slick corporate functionary who calls himself - actually calls HIMSELF- post partisan and post ideological. He may be Bi-Partisan but he is ALL-fool. The Dems had their chance in 2008 and tried to carry on like it was business as usual and that America was going to return to Reagan's Eternal Morning any day now. It turned out, when they got their shot, that they weren't anything new or different. The frustration of the independent voters with this 'Bidness-As-Usual' was matched only by the horror of the Democratic base who expected the second coming of FDR and the New Deal but witnessed a second corporatist party taking the reins from GOP. So Dems aren't insistent about explaining to the people HOW we came to be in such a sorry condition, (because they don't care and don't know, they don't get that there's something that needs to be explained) and they aren't insistent about shaping a future in which the collapse we've lived through can't happen again (because they LIKED how things were before the crash and just want to get back to the status quo ante not realizing that it's impossible). Faced with a hot iron, Democrats can't wait to throw it into a bucket of water. But Republicans do WANT to be that party which explains and shapes, because they actually BELIEVE the crazy shit that comes out of their mouths. It doesn't matter that they are 90% of the reason why we are up shit creek and that they can't explain a goddamn thing or prevent disaster from recurring. They want to lead and they say they have a plan, which makes them QUALIFIED compared to the thumbs-up-asses Democrats, whose big plan is to muddle through somehow and who prefer to avoid discussing the roots of our collapse with happy talk about how it'll all be better soon, or evasive replies that they'd just rather not talk about that subject. Even when Republicans don't believe their crap fully, they know that if they keep hammering away at their message and keep implementing this plan, the more believable it will be for them. The iron is hot for them and they intend to strike. This moment of crisis should be the early days of a post-Republican phase of American History. It should have buried the GOP in ignominy and disgrace forever. They should be gone. Instead, thanks to Democratic bungling and vapidity, the Republicans are actually seizing it as THEIR Revolutionary Moment. People who think the Republicans will modulate and moderate themselves, given a little time, are in for A BIG FUCKING SURPRISE. They know they can crowd out and drown out any alternate ideas and inconvenient realities if they just keep banging away at their messaging and insisting that they are the sole keepers of America's sacred tradition. For one thing, there's no real competition: Democrats are unable or unwilling to articulate a DIFFERENT vision, a different explanation of the obstacles we face, a different story of how we came to be in this present crisis, a different plan for getting out of it. (yes, the Republicans truly believe they can make their own reality by force of will-The Triumph of the Will- and it's up to non-Republicans to stop them and prove that the Universe doesn't work that way.)
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  -Why are the Republicans being so brazen about their plans to dismantle America? Atman  Apr-20-11 11:39 AM   #0 
  - It's a test. They're testing just how far they can go.  MineralMan   Apr-20-11 11:42 AM   #1 
  - Because no one is trying to stop them. It's their MO.  Brickbat   Apr-20-11 11:44 AM   #2 
  - +1  leftstreet   Apr-20-11 11:52 AM   #4 
  - Before Sept 11th NOBODY was discussing the NeoConservatives. Nobody knew Grover Norquist  KittyWampus   Apr-20-11 11:49 AM   #3 
  - I think you're in denial  pscot   Apr-20-11 11:57 AM   #6 
  - Are you kidding?  EC   Apr-20-11 12:57 PM   #11 
  - No, not everyone who was paying even a little attention knew about Grover Norquist and his  KittyWampus   Apr-20-11 01:13 PM   #15 
     - Look up "The Gang of Five"  EC   Apr-20-11 01:26 PM   #19 
  - You have a very short recollection of history.  Atman   Apr-20-11 01:07 PM   #13 
     - Bullshit. I remember on SmirkingChimp, after 9/11 some people were saying  KittyWampus   Apr-20-11 01:16 PM   #16 
     - The PNAC outline was drafted and signed long before 9/11. Sorry, that's just fact.  Atman   Apr-20-11 02:25 PM   #20 
     - Well maybe I'm just informed, but I remember Norquist's  socialist_n_TN   Apr-20-11 06:51 PM   #28 
     - It wasn't--and still isn't--widely known  grillo7   Apr-20-11 02:43 PM   #22 
  - You'd prefer them to be sneaky about it?  Keith Bee   Apr-20-11 11:55 AM   #5 
  - And how are they going to do that  zeemike   Apr-20-11 12:05 PM   #7 
  - I already blogged about my theory  Tom Rinaldo   Apr-20-11 12:13 PM   #8 
  - That is right on the money. They don't need us anymore.  alfredo   Apr-20-11 12:54 PM   #10 
  - I think it is worse than that. They not only don't need us, we've become a liability to them.  Beam Me Up   Apr-20-11 01:06 PM   #12 
     - they also know that revolutions are born in the middle class.  alfredo   Apr-20-11 01:10 PM   #14 
        - So get one started now  MedleyMisty   Apr-20-11 07:44 PM   #29 
           - They are organic, nobody "starts" them. The corporatist tried  alfredo   Apr-20-11 11:38 PM   #35 
  - That may be true...  grillo7   Apr-20-11 02:46 PM   #24 
  - Desperation. They're behind the curve-- they don't realize...  TygrBright   Apr-20-11 12:41 PM   #9 
  - Because the fascists know that post-CitizensUnited they control most broadcast media at this point  blm   Apr-20-11 01:20 PM   #17 
  - One last "smash and grab" before the "demographic window" closes on them?  Proud Liberal Dem   Apr-20-11 01:21 PM   #18 
  - They want to own everything. "Stress tests." Financial martial law.  Fire Walk With Me   Apr-20-11 02:26 PM   #21 
  - B/c they sense that Obama and elected DEMS are going to let them get away with it?  Dr Fate   Apr-20-11 02:45 PM   #23 
  - They are burning the oil fields, like Saddam did after Gulf War #1.  JoePhilly   Apr-20-11 02:49 PM   #25 
  - Right before we "won" over there. n/t  Dr Fate   Apr-20-11 03:03 PM   #27 
  - They masterbate to the idea of destroying America every night..  and-justice-for-all   Apr-20-11 02:55 PM   #26 
  - The 2012 & 2104 senate maps & the slow-wittedness of most republican voters  SoCalDem   Apr-20-11 07:48 PM   #30 
  - Hateful greedy elitist Republican lying corporate fascist slime has no feelings for workers  LaPera   Apr-20-11 08:47 PM   #31 
  - They do not think they are dismantling THEIR America!  rustydog   Apr-20-11 09:03 PM   #32 
  - They really are economic and social anarchists  Canuckistanian   Apr-20-11 09:19 PM   #33 
  - They UNDERSTAND that you strike when the iron is hot.  kenny blankenship   Apr-20-11 09:53 PM   #34 

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