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Wed Apr-20-11 10:38 AM
Response to Reply #41 |
| -How do we define 'Bigotry'? A start to an important conversation |
stevenleser |
Apr-19-11 02:21 PM |
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I support free speech |
Bragi |
Apr-19-11 02:26 PM |
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So am I right in saying that you think nothing should be deleted no matter what is said and that... |
stevenleser |
Apr-19-11 02:30 PM |
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To be more clear on this... |
Bragi |
Apr-19-11 02:35 PM |
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I will bet that most feminists disagree with you if I recall the B**** discussions |
stevenleser |
Apr-19-11 02:45 PM |
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Dunno |
Bragi |
Apr-19-11 03:02 PM |
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I agree that words are only part of it. I discussed them with you because you brought up specifics |
stevenleser |
Apr-19-11 03:39 PM |
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You wrote: |
Bragi |
Apr-20-11 09:08 AM |
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It's often used by |
JustAnotherGen |
Apr-20-11 09:11 AM |
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Stop being a dick |
Bragi |
Apr-20-11 10:38 AM |
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Using a woman's body part as an insult is demeaning to women, yes. n/t |
EFerrari |
Apr-19-11 03:44 PM |
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And that is where I thought most women would position themselves on that... |
stevenleser |
Apr-19-11 04:00 PM |
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Having made so many mistakes myself |
EFerrari |
Apr-19-11 04:02 PM |
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If I call someone a dick, am I anti-men? /nt |
Bragi |
Apr-19-11 11:13 PM |
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I would argue yes. Since men are not a minority class and do not suffer prejudice, we dont typically |
stevenleser |
Apr-19-11 11:21 PM |
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Sir, your argument there is silly |
Bragi |
Apr-20-11 06:05 AM |
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See Thomcat's #46 which is exactly the point. It is still gender loaded language. n/t |
stevenleser |
Apr-20-11 05:05 PM |
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Calling someone a dick is still still using gender loaded language, |
ThomCat |
Apr-20-11 02:25 PM |
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I don't buy that at all |
Bragi |
Apr-21-11 07:34 AM |
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You would be wrong about using any derogotory reference to |
ThomCat |
Apr-20-11 02:22 PM |
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See how easy it is to call someone a bigot? |
Bragi |
Apr-21-11 08:19 AM |
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K&R... |
SidDithers |
Apr-19-11 02:29 PM |
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Be wary of people who want a "line in the sand" |
leftstreet |
Apr-19-11 02:32 PM |
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I thought of that. I hope that doesnt end up describing a lot of people. |
stevenleser |
Apr-19-11 02:42 PM |
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I think the vast majority of DUers are for complete equal rights for everyone. |
Jim__ |
Apr-19-11 03:13 PM |
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The point is to come up with rules or guidelines that are not ambiguous. |
stevenleser |
Apr-19-11 03:33 PM |
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When I speak of implementation, I'm not just speaking about the order that things are done. |
Jim__ |
Apr-19-11 03:52 PM |
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Generally, Democrats, Liberals, Progressives feel that affirmative action IS equal rights |
stevenleser |
Apr-19-11 03:56 PM |
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It sounds like you only want to allow opinions that agree with yours. |
Jim__ |
Apr-19-11 04:07 PM |
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Actually, it is a progressive and liberal position. And yes, I only want Liberal/Democratic |
stevenleser |
Apr-19-11 11:22 PM |
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The point is that when people's positions are wrong, there should not be a rule against telling them |
Jim__ |
Apr-20-11 06:55 AM |
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If we create a poll here, or any other Democratic leaning site, you will see quickly how you are |
stevenleser |
Apr-20-11 05:15 PM |
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Additionally, I think the issue is that we are failing as a community to address these things well |
stevenleser |
Apr-19-11 03:53 PM |
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More examples, cross posted from Sapphocrat (I hope it is OK with them) |
stevenleser |
Apr-19-11 03:49 PM |
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There's a lot of casual because accepted bigotry that as Americans |
EFerrari |
Apr-19-11 03:54 PM |
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Actually, that IS helpful /nt |
Bragi |
Apr-19-11 11:16 PM |
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I do not think we should tolerate intolerant bigots who refuse to be reasonable. |
Odin2005 |
Apr-19-11 04:10 PM |
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I've seen this discussion pop up in the GLBT forum before, and it really irritates me. |
closeupready |
Apr-19-11 04:26 PM |
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Yes, I agree. Great quote, thanks. nt |
Zorra |
Apr-19-11 04:45 PM |
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OK, but how do you apply that to some of the problem threads and comments we have had here? |
stevenleser |
Apr-19-11 11:35 PM |
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It would take some discernment, but it is not all that difficult |
Zorra |
Apr-20-11 02:05 AM |
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For bigotry here on DU against gays, there is a sort of baseline, and that is, |
closeupready |
Apr-19-11 04:16 PM |
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I accept that nothing less than full equality for all groups is the baseline. |
stevenleser |
Apr-19-11 11:26 PM |
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I think Starry states something important below, that context must be considered |
closeupready |
Apr-20-11 06:44 AM |
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This is probably more a conversation about privilege |
Starry Messenger |
Apr-19-11 04:25 PM |
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That is the essential question that I think we should wrestle with |
stevenleser |
Apr-19-11 11:38 PM |
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Skinner has stated that he expects that DU3 might take care of some of this. |
Starry Messenger |
Apr-20-11 12:00 AM |
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DU posts that begin with pseudo newsflash "TEXAS: ..." is a call for bigotry. |
txwhitedove |
Apr-20-11 07:02 AM |
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you left off the most bigoted saying on DU "your pet issue". |
boston bean |
Apr-20-11 07:19 AM |
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Being dismissive is different than being bigoted /nt |
Bragi |
Apr-20-11 01:35 PM |
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re-read. It's not just dismissive, it divides, says to someone too bad for your |
boston bean |
Apr-20-11 03:10 PM |
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Which human rights do you mean? |
Bragi |
Apr-20-11 03:41 PM |
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No, that's usually not true. |
ThomCat |
Apr-20-11 03:40 PM |
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I think you are conflating things |
Bragi |
Apr-21-11 05:32 AM |
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the argument is over bigoted policies and agenda's. |
boston bean |
Apr-21-11 06:10 AM |
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When I objected to a person's bigoted statement about a certain republican |
Dappleganger |
Apr-20-11 09:15 AM |
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That crap about making every hated person gay |
ThomCat |
Apr-20-11 03:47 PM |
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Apr-21-11 08:26 AM |
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"what we believe constitutes bigotry and thus draw a line in the sand" |
jberryhill |
Apr-21-11 07:37 AM |
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