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29. Depends on what means by sexy...
If the question is, can they "turn you on" because they wear certain clothes, the answer is no.

And those who consciously mimic adult behaviors, such as dress up, makeup, pageant walking, don't register either.

Sexiness involves more subtle triggers and displays, which can be present in girls as young as ten. Something can register as an attractive trait, without being perversion. It's silly to think that girls at ten have not been expressing sexual behavior (crushes) and have not got feedback because it gets response. It's part of socialization.

This poll cannot deal with a less loaded question like, "Can one ten year old be judged to be sexier than another?"

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  -Is it really possible for an adult to find a 10 year old sexy, regardless of what La Lioness Priyanka  Apr-19-11 01:19 PM   #0 
  - Not possible for this adult.  MineralMan   Apr-19-11 01:20 PM   #1 
  - No. No way. uh uh. Nope.  PeaceNikki   Apr-19-11 01:22 PM   #2 
  - If someone's wearing clothing that says "Hey, check me out"  XemaSab   Apr-19-11 01:24 PM   #3 
  - lol  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 01:25 PM   #4 
  - although how a "juicy" ass is supposed to be attractive, I'm not real sure  anarch   Apr-19-11 01:26 PM   #7 
  - That doesn't necessarily make the wearer sexy, does it? (nt)  Heidi   Apr-19-11 01:30 PM   #10 
     - There are many ways of defining sexy  XemaSab   Apr-19-11 01:36 PM   #17 
        - Just because a 10-year-old defines her/himself as sexy doesn't excuse the ADULT  Heidi   Apr-19-11 01:49 PM   #32 
           - So your definition of sexy  XemaSab   Apr-19-11 01:56 PM   #38 
           - Finished discussing with you. Your reading comprehension leaves much to be desired  Heidi   Apr-19-11 02:00 PM   #45 
           - you are right. there is also the parents job in teaching the kids personal responsibility  seabeyond   Apr-19-11 01:57 PM   #41 
              - Good example.  MineralMan   Apr-19-11 03:23 PM   #117 
                 - i just do not even kinda get that uncomfortable feel anymore. too many traps  seabeyond   Apr-19-11 04:41 PM   #142 
                    - I agree completely. It's just one of those things that parents have  MineralMan   Apr-19-11 06:46 PM   #155 
  - sexy - nope ... cute I can work with .... as in cute as a button ... nt  littlewolf   Apr-19-11 01:26 PM   #5 
  - It doesn't seem to me that this is the sole, or even necessarily the most significant, problem with  patrice   Apr-19-11 01:26 PM   #6 
  - If they were born on Leap Day, maybe.  Morning Dew   Apr-19-11 01:27 PM   #8 
  - The one person who answered "Yes" is either messin' around or indulging an illusion  Heidi   Apr-19-11 01:29 PM   #9 
  - 2  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 01:33 PM   #12 
  - And how about accounting for the illusion that, though one may not be one one's self, there are NO  patrice   Apr-19-11 01:34 PM   #14 
  - The definition of pedophile does not hinge on "acting upon" that attraction. (nt)  Heidi   Apr-19-11 01:38 PM   #19 
     - That's my point and, by implication, the definition of "acting" or how we  patrice   Apr-19-11 01:41 PM   #24 
  - Exactly  Aerows   Apr-19-11 01:37 PM   #18 
  - Don't ask us....ask the pedophiles out there.  cbdo2007   Apr-19-11 01:33 PM   #11 
  - because kids who dress conservatively dont get attacked by pedophiles?  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 01:35 PM   #15 
     - Because dressing like a slut has direct or indirect consequences of various kinds to  patrice   Apr-19-11 01:39 PM   #20 
     - so you think kids who dress conservatively dont get attacked?  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 01:44 PM   #26 
        - Please quote where I said any of that and I will respond. Thanks. nt  patrice   Apr-19-11 02:06 PM   #51 
     - I wouldn't expect you to understand it.  cbdo2007   Apr-19-11 01:40 PM   #22 
        - i think there is no way a kid could dress like a 'tramp'. nt  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 01:44 PM   #27 
           - An interesting viewpoint.  kwassa   Apr-19-11 01:59 PM   #42 
           - Indeed. This thread is making me ill. nt  blondeatlast   Apr-19-11 02:13 PM   #54 
           - me too...  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-19-11 02:15 PM   #59 
              - me three. i regret starting it.  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 02:23 PM   #67 
                 - Me, also, too.  PeaceNikki   Apr-19-11 02:46 PM   #88 
                 - also very victim blaming, cos you know before the advent of the bikini for little girls  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 02:47 PM   #90 
                    - Over-generalization: because someone says that a person is responsible for their behavior, that does  patrice   Apr-19-11 02:59 PM   #98 
                    - "provocative child". That's where you go wrong. A child is NOT provocative  riderinthestorm   Apr-19-11 08:07 PM   #161 
                    - P.S. The ultimate victimhood: stuff the kid can do absolutely nothing about.  patrice   Apr-19-11 03:42 PM   #121 
                 - can you put it out of its misery?  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-19-11 03:01 PM   #99 
                 - wow. Not PC enough for you? hmmmm . . . nt  patrice   Apr-19-11 03:18 PM   #112 
                 - BTW, who appointed you gatekeeper for the rest of us? Kind of authoritarian, don't you think?  patrice   Apr-19-11 03:56 PM   #128 
                    - just asked  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-19-11 04:23 PM   #134 
                 - don't know what you were expecting  CreekDog   Apr-19-11 04:35 PM   #138 
                    - perhaps you are right. i thought framing the controversy in this way  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 04:36 PM   #139 
           - When I was 10 I dressed like a tramp  AngryAmish   Apr-19-11 02:41 PM   #84 
           - LOL!  MineralMan   Apr-19-11 03:56 PM   #129 
           - bwahahahahah!!!! n/t  pipi_k   Apr-19-11 08:27 PM   #166 
           - I don't know  BobbyBoring   Apr-19-11 03:02 PM   #101 
              - it clearly says that besides pedophiles do people find 10 year olds sexy  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 04:37 PM   #140 
                 - Words like "sexy" are imprecise, and can mean different things to people at different times  slackmaster   Apr-19-11 05:02 PM   #154 
  - Only a pedophile could see a 10-year-old that way  slackmaster   Apr-19-11 01:34 PM   #13 
  - i have been told by posters on this board, once girl hits puberty, fair game. 10? i ask  seabeyond   Apr-19-11 01:36 PM   #16 
  - Posters who say that are just flat wrong.  MineralMan   Apr-19-11 01:47 PM   #30 
  - Thank you for a very sensible post. nt  blondeatlast   Apr-19-11 02:13 PM   #58 
  - There are some bona fide idiots who post on this board  slackmaster   Apr-19-11 02:52 PM   #94 
     - there are certain things that have been said to me on this board, that i can. not. get. out.  seabeyond   Apr-19-11 05:00 PM   #152 
  - Therefore, it is impossible for anyone to observe, say, that some people like mountain-oysters  patrice   Apr-19-11 02:04 PM   #46 
     - Nice non-sequitur  slackmaster   Apr-19-11 02:49 PM   #93 
     - Saying that doesn't make it so. You said only a pedophile can recognize pedophilia. That's the  patrice   Apr-19-11 02:53 PM   #96 
        - What they said was only a pedophile could see a 10 year old as sexy.  moriah   Apr-19-11 02:56 PM   #97 
        - I did not say that only a pedophile can recognize pedophilia  slackmaster   Apr-19-11 03:43 PM   #122 
     - Yes, you can observe that some people are pedophiles without being one yourself. n/t  moriah   Apr-19-11 02:53 PM   #95 
  - Power, dominance, control, entitlement is the turn-on for these freaks  leftstreet   Apr-19-11 01:39 PM   #21 
  - Bona fide pedophiles excepted, no.  lapislzi   Apr-19-11 01:41 PM   #23 
  - This may be unpopular, but it's my honest opinion:  Hosnon   Apr-19-11 01:43 PM   #25 
  - The caveat I would add, though,  woo me with science   Apr-19-11 01:57 PM   #40 
     - Not to mention music and movies. What do people think girls are screaming about when they see  patrice   Apr-19-11 02:30 PM   #71 
  - Ew.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Apr-19-11 01:46 PM   #28 
  - well said. nt  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 02:05 PM   #48 
  - Depends on what means by sexy...  immoderate   Apr-19-11 01:46 PM   #29 
  - 1+  patrice   Apr-19-11 01:59 PM   #44 
  - Nope.  OhioDoink   Apr-19-11 01:49 PM   #31 
  - Does the OP'er think it's possible to sexualize a 10 year old girl?  KittyWampus   Apr-19-11 01:50 PM   #33 
  - no. i think its possible to make a 10 year old creepy looking with excessive makeup  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 01:52 PM   #34 
     - Here's a quote from the article posted in another thread indicating girls are sexualized  KittyWampus   Apr-19-11 01:56 PM   #39 
     - the article quote from apa is editorialized. i believe that advertising to kids  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 01:59 PM   #43 
     - You seem to know everything about how prostitutes and tramps dress.  lapislzi   Apr-19-11 02:06 PM   #50 
        - "and whatever happens to me will be my fault"? Never would imply such a thing.  KittyWampus   Apr-19-11 02:13 PM   #55 
           - Well, I never received the How to Dress Like a Tramp memo  lapislzi   Apr-19-11 02:21 PM   #64 
     - Ergo, the meanings of all things are limited to what you say they are. nt  patrice   Apr-19-11 02:09 PM   #53 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-19-11 01:53 PM   #35 
  - Can anyone tell me why this whole conversation is limited to how I/you react instead of  patrice   Apr-19-11 01:53 PM   #36 
  - Um...nuh-uh.  Iggo   Apr-19-11 01:54 PM   #37 
  - i bet if this was stated in the context of a muslim country  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 02:04 PM   #47 
  - You are sooooo bad!!!  riderinthestorm   Apr-19-11 08:10 PM   #162 
  - Assuming one isn't a pedophile?  mn9driver   Apr-19-11 02:05 PM   #49 
  - yes, but pedophiles find 10 years old sexy regardless of what they wear  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 02:07 PM   #52 
  - So, in your opinion, child porn is not a problem. Really ALL pictures of kids are the problem.  cbdo2007   Apr-19-11 02:28 PM   #70 
     - no child porn is a problem. how is children being used as sexual objects not a problem  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 02:31 PM   #73 
     - You are defending people who participate in "child porn" willingly.  cbdo2007   Apr-19-11 02:40 PM   #83 
        - no i am not, i am saying you are creating a false equivalence  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 02:42 PM   #86 
           - You mean....  cbdo2007   Apr-19-11 03:04 PM   #105 
              - Uh, you just reframed La Lioness Priyanka's response to mean something totally different  riderinthestorm   Apr-19-11 08:14 PM   #163 
              - you can't use quotes, if you wont quote honestly.  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 08:32 PM   #168 
     - 1+ = Absolutists, read that authoritarians, trip over themselves all of the time.  patrice   Apr-19-11 02:39 PM   #82 
  - bingo. It's like telling a starving person who's watching you eat an ice-cream cone to not be hungry  patrice   Apr-19-11 02:22 PM   #65 
  - Appropriate clothing for little girls...  MineralMan   Apr-19-11 02:13 PM   #56 
  - Works for me, if freely, as possible, chosen. The girls in this country could do worse than  patrice   Apr-19-11 02:46 PM   #87 
     - Well, every kid is different, but parents have a lot to do with  MineralMan   Apr-19-11 03:01 PM   #100 
        - I like your point about emphasis, too much one way or the other creates REAL problems and  patrice   Apr-19-11 03:07 PM   #106 
           - Yeah. Raising children is a pretty complex thing.  MineralMan   Apr-19-11 03:15 PM   #110 
  - "Sexy?" No... dressed too "provocatively adult" for the age... yes.  hlthe2b   Apr-19-11 02:13 PM   #57 
  - AFAIK, studies show that most men can find prepubescent children attractive,  howard112211   Apr-19-11 02:15 PM   #60 
  - 1+ and not wanting to admit that about "normal" people is part of what appears to be  patrice   Apr-19-11 02:25 PM   #68 
  - OK, I get it.  lapislzi   Apr-19-11 02:36 PM   #79 
  - Basically yes. Morality is defined by actions, not by thoughts or feelings.  howard112211   Apr-19-11 02:48 PM   #91 
  - the site was blocked so couldnt read, but  seabeyond   Apr-20-11 12:02 AM   #191 
  - ordinarily no  qazplm   Apr-19-11 02:15 PM   #61 
  - Some people find fire hydrants sexy.  eggplant   Apr-19-11 02:18 PM   #62 
  - Not even the sheep are safe in some parts of the country...  hlthe2b   Apr-19-11 02:23 PM   #66 
  - Maybe I'll go look it up, but I think it's generally recognized that children do have their own sexu  patrice   Apr-19-11 02:18 PM   #63 
  - yes, children have their own sexuality. which again has nothing to do  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 02:32 PM   #75 
     - Nothing? You're denying millenia of hard-wiring. You lose. nt  patrice   Apr-19-11 02:47 PM   #89 
        - LOL  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 02:48 PM   #92 
           - Please respond to my point, i.e. discount ALL of evolution. nt  patrice   Apr-19-11 03:03 PM   #103 
              - I think she gave your point all due consideration.  Bunny   Apr-19-11 04:41 PM   #143 
  - I think the CNN guy made a factual observation  ecstatic   Apr-19-11 02:26 PM   #69 
  - trampy and sexy are value judgments, not simple observations.  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 02:33 PM   #76 
  - the thread which speak of consequences...  LanternWaste   Apr-19-11 02:30 PM   #72 
  - False dichotomies are not reality based. You're over-generalizing, otherwise I might agree with you.  patrice   Apr-19-11 02:32 PM   #74 
  - When they're false, yes.  LanternWaste   Apr-19-11 02:36 PM   #78 
     - True. I should have used a phrase something like "This possibly false dichotomy.." Tks for the catch  patrice   Apr-19-11 02:42 PM   #85 
  - i agree. i think if this had been a muslim cleric writing to tell parents  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 02:35 PM   #77 
     - Precisely.  LanternWaste   Apr-19-11 02:37 PM   #80 
        - i almost want to pose as a muslim cleric to write an article like that  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 02:38 PM   #81 
  - It really depends on the development rate of the child  DireStrike   Apr-19-11 03:02 PM   #102 
  - Yeah.  themadstork   Apr-19-11 10:54 PM   #186 
  - How? Please explain what is sexy about a ten year old!  Rex   Apr-19-11 03:04 PM   #104 
  - Take a look at PsycLit or a DSM someday. It's a fact that manifests itself in various degrees in  patrice   Apr-19-11 03:12 PM   #108 
     - It is a mental condition, common sense tells the average person  Rex   Apr-19-11 03:21 PM   #115 
        - Conditioning, some of it more hardwired, some of it more arbitrary. The measure of freedom,  patrice   Apr-19-11 03:54 PM   #127 
  - As the mother of a  libmom74   Apr-19-11 03:11 PM   #107 
  - How much of the thread have you actually read? Researched? nt  patrice   Apr-19-11 03:15 PM   #109 
     - Enough to  libmom74   Apr-19-11 03:21 PM   #116 
        - I have no objection to that. & There are a BUNCH of stuff going on in this thread. One of  patrice   Apr-19-11 03:48 PM   #124 
  - Uh, finding a 10 year old sexy defines a pedophile.  cliffordu   Apr-19-11 03:17 PM   #111 
  - well  qazplm   Apr-19-11 03:26 PM   #118 
     - A 10 year old? Really???  cliffordu   Apr-19-11 03:29 PM   #119 
  - well, a lot of adult males seem to like to respond to threads like this ...  MacNfries   Apr-19-11 03:19 PM   #113 
  - Normal adult males have an instinct to protect children  slackmaster   Apr-19-11 03:46 PM   #123 
  - Not only no but fuck NO. nt  Guy Whitey Corngood   Apr-19-11 03:19 PM   #114 
  - No, I don't think a ten-year-old in sexy clothing.......  frebrd   Apr-19-11 03:41 PM   #120 
  - I always think of the late Jon-Benet Ramsey, and how revolting I find her parents.  slackmaster   Apr-19-11 03:52 PM   #125 
  - According to some people in this thread, those parents did nothing wrong. There was no sexuality  patrice   Apr-19-11 04:01 PM   #130 
     - I have a degree in psychology, and am very well aware of what constitutes a norm  slackmaster   Apr-19-11 04:06 PM   #131 
        - A norm is a mathematic derivation acquired from measurments that vary from very high to very low.  patrice   Apr-19-11 04:32 PM   #135 
        - The point being that, though the mixed factors are more probable, it still matters a GREAT deal  patrice   Apr-19-11 04:40 PM   #141 
           - In terms of criminal law and morality, overt behavior is all that matters  slackmaster   Apr-19-11 05:01 PM   #153 
        - thank you. i too have a degree in psychology  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 04:35 PM   #137 
           - Well then, one would think you'd be better acquainted with the literature on sexuality in children.  patrice   Apr-19-11 04:42 PM   #145 
           - your debating style is to draw false equivalence, blame victims and  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 04:45 PM   #146 
           - I have a degree in Psychology, too.  Bunny   Apr-19-11 04:45 PM   #147 
              - blaming a 10 year old clothes for her potential rape or attack  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 04:48 PM   #150 
                 - wow. only read about 50% of the posts but have seen nowhere blame for potential rape or attack  seabeyond   Apr-19-11 07:21 PM   #158 
                    - yeah, i am not surprised you dont. nt  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 07:42 PM   #159 
                       - really? are you stating that i think a child is asking for rape? or attack? what a disgusting  seabeyond   Apr-19-11 07:49 PM   #160 
                          - i didnt say that. you're funny. you make up an accusation, then get outraged about it. nt  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 08:19 PM   #165 
                             - then what were you saying. i asked where someone is saying the 10 yr old is askin for rape or  seabeyond   Apr-19-11 08:32 PM   #167 
                                - i'll post only one example though there are several. i dont want to get into trouble for call outs  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 08:34 PM   #170 
                                   - thank you. nt  seabeyond   Apr-19-11 08:48 PM   #176 
  - yeah i can agree with that in many situations. jon benet comes to mind  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 04:33 PM   #136 
  - There's a famous portrait of Brooke Shields by Avedon or Scavullo  tishaLA   Apr-19-11 03:53 PM   #126 
  - Brooke Shields is a shrewd, intelligent, talented woman and looks far better to me now than then  slackmaster   Apr-19-11 04:08 PM   #132 
  - Thanks for that example. Well, I don't see sex there, but there is this odd troubling incongruen  patrice   Apr-19-11 04:11 PM   #133 
  - Probably not. However, some a little older are about impossible to distinguish from  TheKentuckian   Apr-19-11 04:42 PM   #144 
  - There is no such thing as provocation for rape  lunatica   Apr-19-11 04:47 PM   #148 
  - amen.  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 04:47 PM   #149 
  - Are you a rapist?  cbdo2007   Apr-19-11 08:15 PM   #164 
     - Sexual predators do not remember what their victims were wearing  riderinthestorm   Apr-19-11 08:53 PM   #177 
        - Thank you.  Jamastiene   Apr-19-11 09:44 PM   #179 
        - haha, just because they "don't remember" what their victims were wearing  cbdo2007   Apr-19-11 10:03 PM   #182 
           - You can be dressed in a burqa and raped.  riderinthestorm   Apr-19-11 10:43 PM   #185 
  - what if you don't know the age of the person? what if it is an ad in a magazine  Tuesday Afternoon   Apr-19-11 04:56 PM   #151 
  - 10 no. But 14 definitely nt  conspirator   Apr-19-11 06:59 PM   #156 
  - Boys or girls?  ismnotwasm   Apr-19-11 07:13 PM   #157 
  - I see 10 year olds and even 17 year olds as children in different stages  bluestate10   Apr-19-11 08:32 PM   #169 
  - Thank goddess for responses like this one.  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 08:34 PM   #171 
     - This is the same thing all of us have said!  cbdo2007   Apr-19-11 08:45 PM   #174 
        - LOL  La Lioness Priyanka   Apr-19-11 08:45 PM   #175 
  - I'll have to say no.  houstonintc   Apr-19-11 08:37 PM   #172 
  - My partner has had more than he cares to remember that were victims of incest/rape  w8liftinglady   Apr-19-11 08:38 PM   #173 
  - If you are an old fart for feeling that way about it,  Jamastiene   Apr-19-11 09:54 PM   #181 
  - That's horrible. The one person I knew who told me they were sexually abused as a kid commited  franzia99   Apr-19-11 11:53 PM   #189 
  - If someone finds a 10 year old sexy, they are a pedophile,  Jamastiene   Apr-19-11 08:57 PM   #178 
  - There are some kids that are developed enough that clothing  Ilsa   Apr-19-11 09:45 PM   #180 
  - I would find any adult finding a 10 y/o sexy to be seriously in need of a shrink  niyad   Apr-19-11 10:15 PM   #183 
  - At my age, I don't even find many 20-year-olds sexy!  Withywindle   Apr-19-11 10:32 PM   #184 
  - What's the point of provocative clothing?  lumberjack_jeff   Apr-19-11 11:07 PM   #187 
  - No, adult bodies are attractive in that way. Kids don't have that kind of appearance.  franzia99   Apr-19-11 11:48 PM   #188 
  - parents need to be parents  dsc   Apr-19-11 11:54 PM   #190 
 

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