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Tue Apr-19-11 07:57 PM
Response to Reply #72 |
| 139. But children aren't "provocative" (in the sexual sense which is what the OP is about) |
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in any way shape or form unless you are a perv.
You are ASSuming that most children would be okay with being sexually leered at ("what child doesn't want attention?")
What we want to do is "train" adults that children are children and not sexual beings (in the context of this discussion).
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| -Parents, don't dress your girls like tramps |
cbdo2007 |
Apr-19-11 12:46 PM |
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The problem arises when all the other girls are dressing like tramps |
slackmaster |
Apr-19-11 12:48 PM |
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I think it will be easy to tell my daughter she won't fit in. |
cbdo2007 |
Apr-19-11 12:50 PM |
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Really? Isn't that what parents are for? I mean parenting. |
MineralMan |
Apr-19-11 12:55 PM |
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"It's kind of hard to tell your child he or she can't fit in." |
pintobean |
Apr-19-11 12:50 PM |
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Not hard for me at all. |
Fuzz |
Apr-19-11 01:04 PM |
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Same here |
pintobean |
Apr-19-11 01:10 PM |
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not hard to tell my kids no. i am good at it. i believe i had someone tell me on here |
ejpoeta |
Apr-19-11 01:21 PM |
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and with boys, it was hard. i wouldnt let and they didnt like tshirts with snarky or disrespectful |
seabeyond |
Apr-19-11 01:24 PM |
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i was so mad!! finally i think i found some regular clothes at a store called priceless kids |
ejpoeta |
Apr-19-11 01:28 PM |
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right there with you. i also went out recently and i am seeing the style shift a tad where |
seabeyond |
Apr-19-11 01:30 PM |
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There's always Sears and JC Penney. If that fails, |
MineralMan |
Apr-19-11 01:29 PM |
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There are t-shirts out there with |
SheilaT |
Apr-19-11 02:53 PM |
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And they're available in all sizes, from toddler to XXXL, too. |
MineralMan |
Apr-19-11 03:36 PM |
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my oldest always wanted those shirts. my youngest always wanted something on the shirt |
seabeyond |
Apr-19-11 04:50 PM |
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i had a parent tell me that once. so not hard for me. at all. not even |
seabeyond |
Apr-19-11 12:59 PM |
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Seriously... |
Cid_B |
Apr-19-11 01:13 PM |
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I always let his mom handle those situations when I had a child in the house |
slackmaster |
Apr-19-11 01:31 PM |
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No it's not hard. Act like a parent. |
emilyg |
Apr-19-11 01:15 PM |
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Name removed |
Apr-19-11 01:23 PM |
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It wasn't hard for me! |
JuniperLea |
Apr-19-11 01:25 PM |
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I proudly tell my girls that often doing the right thing... |
CoffeeCat |
Apr-19-11 01:31 PM |
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yup yup yup. and when kids were young may have been tough, but older |
seabeyond |
Apr-19-11 01:34 PM |
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You're a parent first, not their friend |
IrishBuckeye |
Apr-19-11 01:34 PM |
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We're fighting that |
CRK7376 |
Apr-19-11 02:13 PM |
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It was never hard for my mom... |
a la izquierda |
Apr-19-11 02:21 PM |
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Why not? It's a good look. |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-19-11 12:48 PM |
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I agree. |
tabatha |
Apr-19-11 12:50 PM |
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FWIW, i see little girls wearing clothes that, when i was in HS (90s), would have |
dionysus |
Apr-19-11 12:52 PM |
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I dunno, but the writer sounds kinda pervy to me. |
MineralMan |
Apr-19-11 12:53 PM |
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I've seen little girls who look like this |
cali |
Apr-19-11 12:56 PM |
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Well, I guess Christ himself will soon be walking amongst us, |
Bunny |
Apr-19-11 12:57 PM |
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Well, if you read the whole article, the writer goes on and |
MineralMan |
Apr-19-11 01:01 PM |
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None of that means you couldn't walk into, say, JC Penney's and see large light-boxed |
patrice |
Apr-19-11 01:01 PM |
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I'm a woman pushing 50 and concur w/observation cited in OP. Juicy is the branding of |
KittyWampus |
Apr-19-11 01:02 PM |
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I admit that I had not heard of that brand. |
MineralMan |
Apr-19-11 01:05 PM |
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And there is now also BABY CLOTHING proclaiming the infant "Juicy". |
KittyWampus |
Apr-19-11 01:08 PM |
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Juicy babies? Keep them off my lap, please... |
MineralMan |
Apr-19-11 01:15 PM |
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If you don't want your kid |
XemaSab |
Apr-19-11 01:48 PM |
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Dad should burn those clothes? You should see the rest of the line |
jberryhill |
Apr-19-11 02:17 PM |
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. |
snooper2 |
Apr-19-11 01:59 PM |
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Teens wearing this? um, no biggie. 8 year olds, yeah, that's just...yuck. |
krabigirl |
Apr-19-11 08:58 PM |
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+1 MineralMan nails it. |
lapislzi |
Apr-19-11 01:23 PM |
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Reading the article, I think it's made up. |
darkstar3 |
Apr-19-11 01:43 PM |
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Do these look made up to you? |
jberryhill |
Apr-19-11 02:14 PM |
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No shit, Sherlock, but of course I wasn't talking JUST about the pants. |
darkstar3 |
Apr-19-11 02:19 PM |
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You've never seen the "juicy" pants? |
TalkingDog |
Apr-19-11 01:54 PM |
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Juicy is a fairly popular brand of misses clothing |
jberryhill |
Apr-19-11 02:06 PM |
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That's a woman, not a little girl. |
MineralMan |
Apr-19-11 02:47 PM |
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Yah, well, I didn't reproduce their entire catalog for the purpose of showing you it is a brand |
jberryhill |
Apr-19-11 07:21 PM |
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also made in kids sizes for 6 year olds very popular about 8 years ago in NYC |
bettyellen |
Apr-19-11 07:44 PM |
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i've seen it before. |
dionysus |
Apr-19-11 02:06 PM |
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My daughter |
Dorian Gray |
Apr-19-11 02:26 PM |
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I agree. The "hottest thing in the terminal was 8 years old?" Sounds like he's dealing with a |
readmoreoften |
Apr-19-11 07:39 PM |
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Yep. If he can't find a hootchily-dressed adult woman atthe airport, he's lookng too long at the 8 |
elehhhhna |
Apr-20-11 07:19 AM |
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One of my "favorite" sights here in Cupcake Land occurs at our community festivals where you'll |
patrice |
Apr-19-11 12:55 PM |
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Beg to differ. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Apr-19-11 12:58 PM |
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At what point in those ten years do you say no |
pintobean |
Apr-19-11 02:10 PM |
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I never said no. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Apr-19-11 02:30 PM |
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Yep. And when were Bo Derek cornrows on a whitegirl EVER sexy |
elehhhhna |
Apr-20-11 07:23 AM |
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I love the way you ran that word together. "whitegirl." |
The Backlash Cometh |
Apr-20-11 10:41 AM |
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It's very common for white women/girls coming back from Jamaica. |
Shandris |
Apr-20-11 11:11 AM |
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I know -- it's cuteish until you get that sunburn on your multiple hair partings... |
elehhhhna |
Apr-20-11 04:49 PM |
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Nothing new here, really. |
MineralMan |
Apr-19-11 12:59 PM |
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I dunno, but your story sounds kinda pervy to me. |
cbdo2007 |
Apr-19-11 01:04 PM |
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I remember it because it was so shocking to me. |
MineralMan |
Apr-19-11 01:06 PM |
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Riiiiight...... |
cbdo2007 |
Apr-19-11 01:28 PM |
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I think I'll post as I please, but thanks for the analysis. |
MineralMan |
Apr-19-11 01:31 PM |
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good points. I agree, I don't think the author is a pervert |
ecstatic |
Apr-19-11 02:59 PM |
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Back in the early to mid 70s.. |
left coaster |
Apr-19-11 01:16 PM |
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I never saw a 13 or 14 year old wearing anything like that, |
MineralMan |
Apr-19-11 01:27 PM |
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I'm with you, MM... |
PCIntern |
Apr-19-11 03:13 PM |
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A discussion could be had about whether clothing can be sexually provocative at all- |
KittyWampus |
Apr-19-11 01:07 PM |
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dear adults, dont leer at little kids, even if they run around naked |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Apr-19-11 01:12 PM |
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I think I love you. nt. |
vim876 |
Apr-19-11 01:19 PM |
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:* |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-19-11 01:21 PM |
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+100 |
MineralMan |
Apr-19-11 01:35 PM |
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Why do little kids like to wear halters? |
kwassa |
Apr-19-11 01:50 PM |
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why not? maybe they like the look? maybe its comfortable in the heat |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Apr-19-11 02:02 PM |
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WRONG: It's not about leering. It's about kids learning to get attention by being provocative. |
TalkingDog |
Apr-19-11 02:06 PM |
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Your response stinks of victim blaming. |
jtown1123 |
Apr-19-11 02:28 PM |
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Yet no one ever gets blamed for taking precautions ahead of time. |
cbdo2007 |
Apr-19-11 02:35 PM |
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Fashion Victim? Identity Fraud Victim? What are we talking here? |
TalkingDog |
Apr-19-11 07:35 PM |
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But children aren't "provocative" (in the sexual sense which is what the OP is about) |
riderinthestorm |
Apr-19-11 07:57 PM |
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Point out where I mention sexuality AT ALL. Now who is ASSuming? |
TalkingDog |
Apr-20-11 11:01 AM |
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+1 |
krabigirl |
Apr-19-11 08:59 PM |
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It's really hard not to dress young girls as prosti-tots when |
madmom |
Apr-19-11 01:12 PM |
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So true. Try finding jeans that aren't low and skin-tight |
Sabriel |
Apr-19-11 01:29 PM |
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Low-rise jeans are literally all my gf can find for her six-year-old. |
Codeine |
Apr-19-11 02:27 PM |
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I was going to call bullshit |
Alcibiades |
Apr-19-11 03:39 PM |
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walk in on niece sittin on floor with her baby. half her buttcrack visible. |
seabeyond |
Apr-19-11 04:56 PM |
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I was unaware that dressing a certain way at 13... |
vim876 |
Apr-19-11 01:17 PM |
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Parents let their kids play with dolls that look like prostitutes (Bratz) |
IrishBuckeye |
Apr-19-11 01:20 PM |
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How do tramps dress? |
lapislzi |
Apr-19-11 01:21 PM |
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So in your opinion, there's no such thing as sexually provocative clothing? |
KittyWampus |
Apr-19-11 01:26 PM |
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Sigh. |
lapislzi |
Apr-19-11 01:39 PM |
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I stayed at a hotel where they had one of those beauty pageants going on. |
Initech |
Apr-19-11 01:34 PM |
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So females who dress or are dressed by someone else in a way PERCEIVED by others as provocative |
Heidi |
Apr-19-11 01:35 PM |
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is that what the article said? i didnt read that. but didnt read the full story. nt |
seabeyond |
Apr-19-11 01:37 PM |
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The article never came close to saying that. Here's a quote from the end of the article |
KittyWampus |
Apr-19-11 01:48 PM |
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Is getting checked out by adults considered violence? |
XemaSab |
Apr-19-11 01:49 PM |
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I think the poster was extrapolating the anti-woman bias |
lapislzi |
Apr-19-11 01:53 PM |
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Thank you. Exactly. |
Heidi |
Apr-19-11 02:15 PM |
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We have a winner! |
lapislzi |
Apr-19-11 01:50 PM |
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Winner? Did you read the article? Apparently you don't think it's possible to |
KittyWampus |
Apr-19-11 01:54 PM |
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I didn't say that. |
lapislzi |
Apr-19-11 02:04 PM |
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I LOATHE the term "tramp." |
Heidi |
Apr-19-11 01:55 PM |
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It's usually a catch-word for any woman in control of her own sexuality |
lapislzi |
Apr-19-11 02:13 PM |
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that too is printed on little girl shirts. nt |
seabeyond |
Apr-19-11 02:15 PM |
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So what? |
lapislzi |
Apr-19-11 02:19 PM |
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so what? exactly what you say in your post. why do you take it beyond |
seabeyond |
Apr-19-11 02:21 PM |
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I think we're having trouble defining our terms. |
lapislzi |
Apr-19-11 02:25 PM |
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agreed. stamping tramp on a childs chest means nothing to the child. |
seabeyond |
Apr-19-11 04:48 PM |
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"Juicy" printed on your kid's ass is hard to attribute to "perception" |
jberryhill |
Apr-19-11 02:07 PM |
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The person in your photo is not an eight-year-old child. |
Heidi |
Apr-19-11 02:11 PM |
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It's marketed to pre-teens |
jberryhill |
Apr-19-11 02:21 PM |
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One's perception is one's own responsibilty. |
Heidi |
Apr-19-11 02:33 PM |
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Whether or not its perceived as sexy by any adult ignores how it sexualizes young girls- |
KittyWampus |
Apr-19-11 02:23 PM |
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Different discussion. |
lapislzi |
Apr-19-11 06:49 PM |
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but this is the problem, ... the adult world feeds into the kids world and with the net |
seabeyond |
Apr-19-11 07:23 PM |
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you are right. |
lapislzi |
Apr-19-11 07:40 PM |
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Very much so. We all need to wear burqas to not tempt anyone. |
uppityperson |
Apr-19-11 02:18 PM |
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This is simply a logical progression of the madonna/whore dichotomy. |
darkstar3 |
Apr-19-11 01:45 PM |
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Yes, in the big picture, it is. |
lapislzi |
Apr-19-11 02:28 PM |
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I concur that the writer got way too turned on by a child. |
latebloomer |
Apr-19-11 02:26 PM |
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Most little girls don't know why that clothing generates a response. |
davsand |
Apr-19-11 02:32 PM |
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99% of American Parents are fucking MORONS. |
BeHereNow |
Apr-19-11 02:35 PM |
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my step daughter's mother is constantly dressing her like a tramp |
ladywnch |
Apr-19-11 02:36 PM |
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She's still dressed for the beach. Anyone sexualizing 8 yr olds at the beach? |
riderinthestorm |
Apr-19-11 02:49 PM |
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well said. nt |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Apr-19-11 02:55 PM |
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Kids wear goofy stuff. I'm perfectly ok with that. It's adults who know better than to sexualize it |
riderinthestorm |
Apr-19-11 03:21 PM |
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You forgot the SHOULD in your subject line |
lapislzi |
Apr-19-11 07:58 PM |
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I understand what you're saying but I didn't mean it like that. |
riderinthestorm |
Apr-19-11 08:46 PM |
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Push-up bra bikinis isn't sexualizing 8 year old girls? |
KittyWampus |
Apr-19-11 03:39 PM |
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yes it is but sexualizing is diff from finding a 8 year old sexy |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Apr-19-11 06:47 PM |
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Yeah, I agree with this. |
Withywindle |
Apr-19-11 03:36 PM |
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Yes, you can sexualize an 8 year old on the beach. Abercrombie/Fitch sells push up bra bikinies |
KittyWampus |
Apr-19-11 03:39 PM |
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No! An 8 year old at the beach in a bikini isn't sexy, at all. Period. |
riderinthestorm |
Apr-19-11 07:48 PM |
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Tell us how tramps dress so everybody can make sure to avoid that. |
Bluebear |
Apr-19-11 03:14 PM |
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I met two teenage Saudi girls on Saturday. They were dressed in traditional attire, veils and all. |
slackmaster |
Apr-19-11 03:51 PM |
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These are $48 shorts! |
Alcibiades |
Apr-19-11 03:25 PM |
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Some may be missing the point of the entire article. Author objects to the sexualization of it all. |
pinto |
Apr-19-11 03:49 PM |
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Thanks for responding pinto.... |
cbdo2007 |
Apr-19-11 04:16 PM |
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"everyone is ignoring the actual article...focus on a word or two here" |
Teaser |
Apr-19-11 07:35 PM |
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i agree. i tried to raise the point, there is the same issue with boys. tshirts reinforcing boys |
seabeyond |
Apr-19-11 07:39 PM |
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Parents that let their kids dress in that hypersexualized crap should be charged with neglect. |
Odin2005 |
Apr-19-11 03:55 PM |
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Maybe we need 4 or 5 more threads |
ohheckyeah |
Apr-19-11 03:56 PM |
#118 |
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The author sounds like a pedophile and a perv |
TNLib |
Apr-19-11 04:33 PM |
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I Trust Parents -- And I Trust Girls |
zorahopkins |
Apr-19-11 04:51 PM |
#123 |
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why do you trust them? |
Teaser |
Apr-19-11 08:25 PM |
#141 |
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Parents, don't raise your boys to be pigs |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Apr-19-11 07:02 PM |
#127 |
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Parents shouldn't cater to their sons.... |
Darth_Kitten |
Apr-19-11 07:53 PM |
#138 |
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driving on busy road, people turning, stopping, pulling out. an highschool girl walking down the |
seabeyond |
Apr-19-11 07:30 PM |
#130 |
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