You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Reply #37: He will never be a normal member of society. He is a killer. Period. [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread		 This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-10 02:28 AM
Response to Reply #31
37. He will never be a normal member of society. He is a killer. Period.
He tortured and killed those dogs on purpose and for his amusement over a period of 5 years.
Apparently he enjoyed it greatly.

Do you think people like that can truly be rehabilitated?

Do you have any examples of killers or torturers or rapists or child molestors that go on to lead productive normal lives that contribute something positive to society?

Can't wait to hear these.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
  -A Bright side: as a convicted felon Dog Killer has lost his right to vote! martymar64  Dec-29-10 11:24 PM   #0 
  - I believe that depends on what state he lives in  bluestateguy   Dec-29-10 11:29 PM   #1 
  - is there any indication that he ever voted? as for a gun, he apparently didn't need one of those at  niyad   Dec-29-10 11:31 PM   #2 
  - I would really love to see some stats on felons and civic responsibility, post incarceration  Zanzobar   Dec-29-10 11:33 PM   #3 
  - What garbage. n/t  Scurrilous   Dec-29-10 11:33 PM   #4 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-29-10 11:36 PM   #5 
  - Stupid and Criminal come in all races, creeds, and religions  Pavulon   Dec-29-10 11:40 PM   #7 
  - It's the repubs favorite tactic to disenfranchise black men.  dkf   Dec-29-10 11:48 PM   #8 
     - He is not Black, he is Rich, that trumps race anyway.  Pavulon   Dec-29-10 11:50 PM   #9 
        - I normally disagree with you, but you are dead on in that post  martymar64   Dec-30-10 12:04 AM   #11 
        - Rich trumps race?  Book Lover   Dec-30-10 01:45 AM   #32 
        - He can hire a phalanx of white guys to block for him.  immoderate   Dec-30-10 11:10 AM   #57 
        - "he is Rich, that trumps race anyway"  marmar   Dec-30-10 10:57 AM   #49 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-30-10 06:24 PM   #68 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-30-10 08:22 PM   #81 
        - "He is not Black, he is Rich" Wow. It's still early, but so far that's the dumbest thing I've read  Number23   Dec-31-10 05:25 PM   #119 
  - You're making it racial not me.  martymar64   Dec-30-10 12:03 AM   #10 
     - Hello...  dkf   Dec-30-10 12:08 AM   #13 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-30-10 12:22 AM   #15 
        - Good link. nt  awoke_in_2003   Dec-30-10 06:25 PM   #69 
  - You're trying too hard. n/t  cherokeeprogressive   Dec-29-10 11:39 PM   #6 
  - I disagree with ex-cons being disenfranchised.  Vickers   Dec-30-10 12:07 AM   #12 
  - It should be limited to violent criminals like Vick, especially in cases as heinous as this  martymar64   Dec-30-10 12:24 AM   #16 
     - No way, it's the non-violent criminals that are more than likely to be involved  HEyHEY   Dec-30-10 12:32 AM   #18 
        - Haha! You made me laugh! Wall Street Embezzlers in jail?  martymar64   Dec-30-10 12:47 AM   #20 
  - Actually, iirc, they did shoot dogs at Vick's House of Horrors  Mimosa   Dec-30-10 12:13 AM   #14 
  - I can't appluad anyone losing the right to vote  HEyHEY   Dec-30-10 12:31 AM   #17 
  - I take it on a case by case basis . And in this case, no.  martymar64   Dec-30-10 12:54 AM   #21 
  - So glad you are there to review all these cases.  immoderate   Dec-30-10 11:13 AM   #59 
  - Agree. /nt  October   Dec-31-10 05:45 PM   #123 
  - What s troll-like thing to say  Gman   Dec-30-10 12:43 AM   #19 
  - I don't care what you fans of the Dog Killer think.  martymar64   Dec-30-10 01:04 AM   #23 
  - Definitely agree.  H2O Man   Dec-30-10 10:58 AM   #50 
  - Yep--all kinds of messy in this one. nt  blondeatlast   Dec-31-10 02:21 PM   #111 
  - I don't think any felon should permanently lose their right to vote  prolesunited   Dec-30-10 12:59 AM   #22 
  - He can apply with the court to get it back someday if he wants. The law permits it  martymar64   Dec-30-10 01:10 AM   #24 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Dec-30-10 01:22 AM   #26 
  - Would you say the same thing if he was locked up for robbery and assault?  HEyHEY   Dec-30-10 01:33 AM   #28 
  - Robbery ,no . Assault,yes. The violence committed is the deciding factor  martymar64   Dec-30-10 01:36 AM   #30 
     - So, instead of rehabilitating them into a functioning and normal member  HEyHEY   Dec-30-10 01:41 AM   #31 
        - He will never be a normal member of society. He is a killer. Period.  martymar64   Dec-30-10 02:28 AM   #37 
        - So, I'm supposed to have a list of reformed criminals at the ready?  HEyHEY   Dec-30-10 06:20 AM   #41 
        - Then under your logic, freed child molestors should be forgiven too?  martymar64   Dec-30-10 05:48 PM   #61 
           - Okay, then under YOUR Logic speeders should have their licenses revoked first time  HEyHEY   Dec-30-10 10:54 PM   #106 
        - He's not a killer (of humans) rapist, torturer (of humans) or child molestor.  COLGATE4   Dec-30-10 10:16 PM   #98 
        - Duplicate  martymar64   Dec-30-10 02:31 AM   #38 
  - once a felon has served their time, paid their fine, there's no reason they should have to petition  Hannah Bell   Dec-30-10 06:32 AM   #43 
     - Strangely enough, I agree with you completely...nt  SidDithers   Dec-30-10 11:03 AM   #53 
     - And condoning animal cruelty is democratic and liberal?  martymar64   Dec-30-10 05:50 PM   #62 
     - exactly who is condoning it? n/t  Bodhi BloodWave   Dec-30-10 06:13 PM   #65 
     - Surprisingly enough--I had the same question for the poster. nt  blondeatlast   Dec-31-10 02:22 PM   #112 
     - no. but once a person has been convicted & done the time, that's the end of it  Hannah Bell   Dec-30-10 10:10 PM   #97 
     - "used to be anathema to democrats"...  awoke_in_2003   Dec-30-10 06:29 PM   #70 
     - Absolutely right. The only difference is in the 'crime' that they  COLGATE4   Dec-30-10 10:17 PM   #99 
  - Bingo  HEyHEY   Dec-30-10 01:31 AM   #27 
  - +1.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Dec-30-10 11:07 AM   #54 
  - Racism!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!  flvegan   Dec-30-10 01:19 AM   #25 
  - 'Rec' and agree. nt  Obamanaut   Dec-30-10 01:36 AM   #29 
  - Yay! Another citizen who can't vote but who can pay taxes! Awesome!  Book Lover   Dec-30-10 01:46 AM   #33 
  - So do you think that his punishment fit his crime?  martymar64   Dec-30-10 02:17 AM   #35 
     - Do you want him back in prison? n/t  Tejas   Dec-30-10 06:14 AM   #40 
     - the judge thought so...  awoke_in_2003   Dec-30-10 06:33 PM   #71 
     - I really don't care.  COLGATE4   Dec-30-10 10:18 PM   #100 
  - That depends on which state he lives in.  sabrina 1   Dec-30-10 01:47 AM   #34 
  - Would you let Son of Sam or Charlie Manson vote if released?  martymar64   Dec-30-10 02:22 AM   #36 
     - which bothers you more? That he is free & rich, or his crime?  peacebird   Dec-30-10 05:56 AM   #39 
     - It's the crime that bugs me. I'm not jealous of that scumbag or his $  martymar64   Dec-30-10 05:46 PM   #60 
     - Why not vote? Felons are still citizens.  WinkyDink   Dec-30-10 06:50 AM   #47 
     - Some states go by the severity of the crime.  sabrina 1   Dec-30-10 10:53 AM   #48 
     - I would let them vote again. Why not?  Iggo   Dec-30-10 11:08 AM   #55 
     - If they WERE released, them being able to vote would be an infinitesimally tiny problem. -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Dec-30-10 11:09 AM   #56 
  - I see no reason to disenfranchise any felon who's served his/her time.  Hannah Bell   Dec-30-10 06:27 AM   #42 
  - I still don't want him to have another dog, but I have no problem with him voting or playing  TBF   Dec-30-10 06:32 AM   #44 
  - He paid his debt to society. He should have all the dogs he wants then.  martymar64   Dec-30-10 05:52 PM   #63 
     - he cannot have another dog...  awoke_in_2003   Dec-30-10 06:35 PM   #72 
     - He's also known for not honoring agreements. He has a laundry list of lawsuits against him  martymar64   Dec-30-10 08:14 PM   #78 
        - When you cease to honor an agreement....  awoke_in_2003   Dec-30-10 08:29 PM   #84 
           - His lawyers will get the judge to sign off on it.  martymar64   Dec-30-10 08:51 PM   #88 
     - Critical thinking and reading comprehention FAIL. Actually, more like  blondeatlast   Dec-31-10 02:24 PM   #113 
  - Unrec'd  Rebubula   Dec-30-10 06:34 AM   #45 
  - I'm taking back my statement in the OP to you. I wrote much of it in a really angry place.  martymar64   Dec-30-10 09:30 PM   #90 
  - But Bush and Cheney can still vote  malaise   Dec-30-10 06:48 AM   #46 
  - Mon dieu......Will this never end?  marmar   Dec-30-10 10:58 AM   #51 
  - Nope. No way in hell. They'll just keep beating it to death (no pun intended)  COLGATE4   Dec-30-10 10:19 PM   #101 
     - I took the whole thing back upthread FYI last night before you posted your snipe.  martymar64   Dec-31-10 04:03 PM   #117 
  - ...  SidDithers   Dec-30-10 11:00 AM   #52 
  - So you can post cute pictures. Good for you, bubby.  martymar64   Dec-30-10 09:43 PM   #92 
     - That's all you're worth, tough guy...nt  SidDithers   Dec-31-10 08:47 AM   #109 
  - Not in PA...  demodonkey   Dec-30-10 11:10 AM   #58 
  - Are you glad he is now your state's sports standard bearer. Do he make you proud?  martymar64   Dec-30-10 05:54 PM   #64 
     - Philadelphia Eagles fans...  awoke_in_2003   Dec-30-10 06:38 PM   #73 
     - Just stated a fact about our election laws. I'm in Western PA and I'm a Steelers fan.  demodonkey   Dec-31-10 06:15 AM   #107 
  - Not if he lives in Pennsylvania, he didn't  Travelman   Dec-30-10 06:16 PM   #66 
  - WHat an ignorant post. You are happy someone has lost their right to vote????  Pisces   Dec-30-10 06:23 PM   #67 
  - It is like Bizarro world, isn't it? nt  awoke_in_2003   Dec-30-10 06:39 PM   #74 
     - i think I'll see you guys next year  CatWoman   Dec-30-10 06:55 PM   #75 
  - Dog Torturer/Killer that.  lonestarnot   Dec-30-10 07:55 PM   #76 
  - Just to join the chorus...  devils chaplain   Dec-30-10 08:12 PM   #77 
  - whiz off  spanone   Dec-30-10 08:16 PM   #79 
  - I guess this is the only Michael Vick Hate Train no one wanted to ride...  cherokeeprogressive   Dec-30-10 08:17 PM   #80 
  - If you see my upthread post, I just walked back my position from last night.  martymar64   Dec-30-10 09:49 PM   #93 
     - LOL. Sometimes I avoid looking at my posts from the night before.  cherokeeprogressive   Dec-30-10 10:27 PM   #105 
  - Americans and their dog obsession.  Toucano   Dec-30-10 08:23 PM   #82 
  - Or, Americans and their ability to multitask.  flvegan   Dec-30-10 08:28 PM   #83 
  - Only amazing to the extent that you think you're succeeding at it.  Toucano   Dec-30-10 08:37 PM   #85 
     - That's funny  flvegan   Dec-30-10 08:43 PM   #86 
  - I'm the one who posted this ugly OP .  martymar64   Dec-30-10 10:03 PM   #94 
  - K&R X1000!  COLGATE4   Dec-30-10 10:21 PM   #103 
  - In Alaska, convicted felons get back the right to vote  Blue_In_AK   Dec-30-10 08:49 PM   #87 
  - Thanks. I kinda blew my lid last night. I'm normally not that aggro.  martymar64   Dec-30-10 10:07 PM   #95 
     - Oh, that's fine.  Blue_In_AK   Dec-31-10 02:18 PM   #110 
        - Not at all - I've known sledders and they treat their dogs like family  martymar64   Dec-31-10 03:46 PM   #115 
  - Oh, good grief. UnRec.  apocalypsehow   Dec-30-10 09:18 PM   #89 
  - I Think Convicted Felons should be Allowed to Vote  fascisthunter   Dec-30-10 09:37 PM   #91 
  - certainly after a certain period of time, with no further criminal activity  Skittles   Dec-30-10 10:08 PM   #96 
  - Has he ever voted?  roody   Dec-30-10 10:20 PM   #102 
  - Unrec. I don't think disenfranchisement is something we should celebrate.  tammywammy   Dec-30-10 10:23 PM   #104 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-31-10 06:19 AM   #108 
  - Who'da thunk it could happen? DU is almost united in it's responses to the OP.  blondeatlast   Dec-31-10 02:30 PM   #114 
  - And if you look upthread - I joined that chorus to my own OP  martymar64   Dec-31-10 03:58 PM   #116 
     - Apologies for my snark--really. Your atonement in the other thread is sincere;  blondeatlast   Dec-31-10 05:28 PM   #120 
  - I don't think I've seen so much hate even against pedophiles or serial killers on DU  entanglement   Dec-31-10 04:56 PM   #118 
  - See the below post for the aftermath - I'm asking the Mods to lock this one  martymar64   Dec-31-10 05:33 PM   #121 
  - Oh my God. This post just made my 2011 and it's only 10 hours old  Number23   Dec-31-10 05:36 PM   #122 
  - We are locking this at the request of the OP  Grateful for Hope   Dec-31-10 05:46 PM   #124 
 

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators

Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC