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Sun Apr-17-11 10:12 PM
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am uncomfortable with how you always cling to the side of authority, no matter how ridiculous is looks.
Too many people like that in a democracy can lead to bad things.
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| -Colorado man claims he was 'sexually assaulted' by TSA |
The Northerner |
Apr-16-11 03:12 PM |
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This guy needs some perspective. |
Buzz Clik |
Apr-16-11 03:16 PM |
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he simply needs to understand a stranger groping his dick makes you feel safer |
seabeyond |
Apr-16-11 03:19 PM |
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+100000 |
woo me with science |
Apr-16-11 03:19 PM |
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+1 brazillion. nt |
xchrom |
Apr-16-11 03:27 PM |
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I couldn't agree more |
The Northerner |
Apr-16-11 03:33 PM |
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Very well stated! |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-16-11 03:42 PM |
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Apr-16-11 03:49 PM |
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No, you didn't hear me. |
Buzz Clik |
Apr-16-11 06:41 PM |
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ah. well, i dont do degrees. but i can imagine that a person who had been sexually molested would |
seabeyond |
Apr-16-11 06:42 PM |
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I never suggested it's okay. But it most certainly is NOT sexual assault. |
Buzz Clik |
Apr-16-11 08:18 PM |
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How do you figure? It's an unconsented to sexual contact; fitting the sex assault definition in |
franzia99 |
Apr-16-11 08:44 PM |
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Yeah, fondling of privates never hurt anyone. |
joeunderdog |
Apr-17-11 12:31 PM |
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You don't get to decide that. If you have no problems being |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-17-11 04:35 PM |
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And I... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-11 04:39 PM |
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Don't know what you mean by that comment. |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-17-11 04:59 PM |
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I see... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-11 05:01 PM |
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Yes, every victim gets to decide whether or not they were |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-17-11 05:22 PM |
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"Who doesn't get to decide are strangers who know nothing about the case, such as people on... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-11 05:24 PM |
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True, but I'm not the one saying that this person has no |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-17-11 05:38 PM |
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That's my opinion.... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-11 05:47 PM |
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Can you explain, since you are so convinced that |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-17-11 05:56 PM |
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"why every time someone challenges them, the TSA backs down" |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-11 05:59 PM |
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And I for one |
sudopod |
Apr-17-11 10:12 PM |
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I like facts, dude.... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-11 10:20 PM |
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Are you any kin to the guy who wrote "Nuclear Reactor Analysis" by chance? nt |
sudopod |
Apr-17-11 10:21 PM |
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If you just want to fight... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-11 10:23 PM |
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I was serious, lol. |
sudopod |
Apr-17-11 10:31 PM |
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You're assuming.... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-11 10:34 PM |
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Why are you asking me personal questions? n/t |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-11 11:49 PM |
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Apr-16-11 07:03 PM |
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Ok, coach. nt |
sudopod |
Apr-17-11 10:11 PM |
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lol |
franzia99 |
Apr-16-11 08:41 PM |
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Well, if I wasn't circumcised it would be a good place to hide some weed |
snooper2 |
Apr-18-11 10:10 AM |
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Yes...why can't everyone just stand up, salute & be a "good German"? |
hlthe2b |
Apr-16-11 03:20 PM |
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He must have been one of those "arrogant people who |
LisaL |
Apr-16-11 03:21 PM |
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LOL!!! |
Buzz Clik |
Apr-16-11 08:23 PM |
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You're pretty unbelievable in your cavalier regard |
timtom |
Apr-17-11 03:34 PM |
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he was sexually assulted |
reggie the dog |
Apr-16-11 03:29 PM |
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By definition only -- and a very generous definition at that. |
Buzz Clik |
Apr-16-11 06:41 PM |
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So if Larry Craig came over and against your will did the same... |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
Apr-16-11 07:05 PM |
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If Larry Craig were wearing a TSA uniform performing his job, he'd be another TSA lackey. |
Buzz Clik |
Apr-16-11 08:20 PM |
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So a uniform gives someone the right to sexually assault you? |
Matariki |
Apr-16-11 08:25 PM |
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You seem to be missing a really vital point: it wasn't sexual assault. |
Buzz Clik |
Apr-16-11 08:56 PM |
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"performing one job" does not include what occured in this story |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
Apr-16-11 08:29 PM |
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Okay. I agree. I completely and totally agree that this clown should be fired. |
Buzz Clik |
Apr-16-11 08:58 PM |
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Uh, touching someone's genitals without consent fits the legal definition of sexual assault |
franzia99 |
Apr-16-11 08:49 PM |
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It's sure as hell is relevant to this conversation. |
Buzz Clik |
Apr-16-11 08:58 PM |
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You don't make the law brother. |
franzia99 |
Apr-16-11 09:01 PM |
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And you do? |
Buzz Clik |
Apr-16-11 09:06 PM |
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Here's the Colorado definition, complete with links |
franzia99 |
Apr-16-11 09:28 PM |
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Keywords: |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-16-11 09:31 PM |
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Which is a question of fact for the jury to decide. |
franzia99 |
Apr-16-11 09:32 PM |
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Oh, for the love of Mike... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-16-11 09:33 PM |
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Are you the prosecutor and/or judge with jurisdiction over this? |
franzia99 |
Apr-16-11 09:35 PM |
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Neither have you... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-16-11 09:36 PM |
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Um, flesh out that argument please. Your point is unclear. |
franzia99 |
Apr-16-11 09:37 PM |
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TSA regulations are... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-16-11 09:41 PM |
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2 arguments: First, the Constitution trumps federal law, and the 4th amendment is interpreted to |
franzia99 |
Apr-16-11 09:47 PM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-16-11 09:53 PM |
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Sadly though, your argument is unpersuasive. |
franzia99 |
Apr-16-11 09:54 PM |
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Take it up with the Supreme Court... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-16-11 09:59 PM |
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Shouldn't be too hard to find if you put in a minute of effort. Not to mention, you've never |
franzia99 |
Apr-16-11 10:13 PM |
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That's a prediction.... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-16-11 10:17 PM |
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It's a question for the finder of fact, as I've said. |
franzia99 |
Apr-16-11 10:18 PM |
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Which is why I labeled what I said as... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-16-11 10:48 PM |
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His grammar is correct. He said "what the TSA agent did," which is a |
tblue37 |
Apr-17-11 10:31 PM |
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So any TSA agent can do anything to any passenger with impunity? |
LisaL |
Apr-17-11 11:14 AM |
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No... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-11 11:25 AM |
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You just said that no judge will permit this case to proceed? |
LisaL |
Apr-17-11 01:54 PM |
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First of all... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-11 01:58 PM |
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Predict what you want, but your "supremacy clause" argument is WEAK |
franzia99 |
Apr-17-11 04:19 PM |
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Do you think capitalizing "weak".... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-11 04:42 PM |
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why not? sexual assault is a state crime, not a federal one |
reggie the dog |
Apr-17-11 12:18 PM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-11 12:29 PM |
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Are you an actual attorney? Because you're butchering the legal analysis. |
franzia99 |
Apr-17-11 04:25 PM |
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Says you n/t |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-11 04:26 PM |
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Yah, funny, I'm probably one of the few lawyers on here. |
franzia99 |
Apr-17-11 04:29 PM |
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Sure you are n/t |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-11 04:31 PM |
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Okay, so I'll take this as an admission that you aren't. People should be informed |
franzia99 |
Apr-17-11 04:42 PM |
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Of course, the current SCOTUS is packed with RW Bush appointees. nt |
tblue37 |
Apr-17-11 10:34 PM |
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Wow |
tpsbmam |
Apr-16-11 09:43 PM |
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so when you were a kid and teen and the cops kept stoppin you |
reggie the dog |
Apr-17-11 10:55 AM |
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Getting back you way late....either I responded to the wrong post or you did.... |
tpsbmam |
Apr-17-11 10:09 PM |
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i posted in the wrong place, sorry and thanks for sticking up for me |
reggie the dog |
Apr-18-11 07:49 AM |
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Is it some kind of contest? |
_ed_ |
Apr-17-11 01:34 PM |
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Lol, I've never seen anyone argue a point like that! |
Union Scribe |
Apr-17-11 11:26 PM |
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Yeah, well, the Merkin Public is only outraged now because it is affecting THEM. |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-16-11 07:34 PM |
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the shit they did to hippies like me |
reggie the dog |
Apr-17-11 10:57 AM |
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Agreed. The biggest component of the drug war is a racial one. |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-17-11 03:25 PM |
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that's my penis |
joshcryer |
Apr-16-11 08:44 PM |
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I think YOU need some perspective... |
hlthe2b |
Apr-16-11 03:32 PM |
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Meh. Bullshit. |
Buzz Clik |
Apr-16-11 06:43 PM |
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You contradicted yourself upstream... |
hlthe2b |
Apr-16-11 06:45 PM |
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Yeah, well, so have I. And I disagree with completely. |
Buzz Clik |
Apr-16-11 08:20 PM |
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You disagree that you contradict yourself?... Check it.. Post #15 |
hlthe2b |
Apr-16-11 08:23 PM |
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I disagree with you. |
Buzz Clik |
Apr-16-11 08:24 PM |
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You are free to do so.. |
hlthe2b |
Apr-16-11 08:33 PM |
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Apr-16-11 09:06 PM |
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You don't get to misstate misframe, or misrepresent everything |
hlthe2b |
Apr-16-11 09:17 PM |
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The unlawful sexual contact does not have to be violent. |
LisaL |
Apr-17-11 11:09 AM |
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unwanted contact with my sexaul areas is violence in and of itself |
reggie the dog |
Apr-17-11 12:22 PM |
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Oh for crying out loud. |
LisaL |
Apr-17-11 11:08 AM |
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as when cops felt my privates because i "looked like a druggie" |
reggie the dog |
Apr-17-11 12:21 PM |
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Apr-17-11 12:31 PM |
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Hey...get used to it. |
blueamy66 |
Apr-16-11 08:47 PM |
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Unintentional irony n/t |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-11 12:57 PM |
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"Denver Police is investigating. " |
bobbolink |
Apr-16-11 06:49 PM |
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Look, I have my issues with DPD... |
hlthe2b |
Apr-16-11 07:29 PM |
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I guess for people who haven't been victims of *their* contempt, they don't deserve any |
bobbolink |
Apr-16-11 07:40 PM |
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Maybe he DOES have perspective |
tpsbmam |
Apr-16-11 09:41 PM |
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i listened to the video clip and there is a tsa person something along the line of 'tsa has 'served' |
xchrom |
Apr-16-11 03:34 PM |
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It's meant along the lines of |
notesdev |
Apr-16-11 04:17 PM |
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Well duh. Didn't he notice the other people in line ahead of him getting assaulted? |
Shagbark Hickory |
Apr-16-11 07:33 PM |
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Watch the report, he's a frequent flier, this was different for him. |
joshcryer |
Apr-16-11 08:45 PM |
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I really wonder why this hasn't been challenged as a violation of 4th amendment rights yet. |
Initech |
Apr-17-11 11:01 AM |
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Because security checkpoints don't require... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-11 11:08 AM |
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But the search has to be reasonable. |
LisaL |
Apr-17-11 11:10 AM |
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Keywords: "as this guy alleges" |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-11 11:23 AM |
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Yes of course these are allegations. |
LisaL |
Apr-17-11 01:48 PM |
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Because I don't believe that any DA will prosecute... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-11 01:53 PM |
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So, nothing that TSA agent does can lead to prosecution, using your |
LisaL |
Apr-17-11 01:55 PM |
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Jesus... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-11 02:05 PM |
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You just claimed no DA will prosecute... |
LisaL |
Apr-17-11 10:15 PM |
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It's a prediction and... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-11 10:21 PM |
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I still think this would be illegal search and seizure. |
Initech |
Apr-17-11 11:17 AM |
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Well... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-11 11:28 AM |
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If it happens to me, maybe I will. |
Initech |
Apr-17-11 12:13 PM |
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As I said before... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-11 12:25 PM |
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Apr-17-11 07:39 PM |
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Because the 4th amendment doesn't give you the right to fly on an airplane |
Hippo_Tron |
Apr-17-11 02:45 PM |
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It's about searching someone's bags illegally, not about flying. |
Initech |
Apr-17-11 03:07 PM |
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It isn't "illegal"... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-11 03:17 PM |
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Can you imagine asking Thomas Jefferson if it's ok to grab his crotch? |
sudopod |
Apr-17-11 10:15 PM |
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Nobody's crotch is... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-11 10:22 PM |
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Patted firmly with a cupped hand? nt |
sudopod |
Apr-17-11 10:32 PM |
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Have you been through the actual... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-11 10:36 PM |
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Does it matter? nt |
sudopod |
Apr-17-11 10:36 PM |
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Yes n/t |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-11 10:41 PM |
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Why? nt |
sudopod |
Apr-17-11 10:44 PM |
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On what basis do you know... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-11 10:45 PM |
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Not everyone lies. nt |
sudopod |
Apr-17-11 10:50 PM |
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Exaggeration is not necessarily "lying"... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-17-11 11:00 PM |
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I don't know. I guess you had to be there? nt |
sudopod |
Apr-17-11 11:02 PM |
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Apr-17-11 11:03 PM |
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LOL, it appears that you're upset. ;) nt |
sudopod |
Apr-18-11 12:14 AM |
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Nobody is forced to have their bags searched by TSA |
Hippo_Tron |
Apr-17-11 03:24 PM |
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You don't know much about your own rights. No wonder |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-17-11 04:56 PM |
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Dangerous argument, Slippery slope. |
Innomen |
Apr-17-11 05:14 PM |
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Yes, you do have a right to fly. |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-17-11 07:01 PM |
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Agreed. |
Innomen |
Apr-19-11 01:12 PM |
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Exactly this. |
Initech |
Apr-18-11 12:05 AM |
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we HAVE to go into the court house. the court houses have naked scans. is THAT against 4th |
seabeyond |
Apr-17-11 05:25 PM |
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I've had jury duty several times and never been subjected to one. |
Initech |
Apr-18-11 12:15 AM |
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i know there are courthouses in florida that have them. they have held onto the pictures and |
seabeyond |
Apr-18-11 01:28 AM |
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when i went to trial in craig county virginia |
reggie the dog |
Apr-18-11 07:51 AM |
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ok. and a lot of courts across the nation does not have naked scanner. there are a few |
seabeyond |
Apr-18-11 09:13 AM |
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ah, i see |
reggie the dog |
Apr-18-11 09:29 AM |
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There's no room for opinion on this. It's wrong to be touched without consent and... |
Modern_Matthew |
Apr-18-11 07:54 AM |
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Agreed, however. |
Innomen |
Apr-19-11 01:22 PM |
#159 |
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