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Fri Apr-15-11 09:03 AM
Response to Reply #47 |
| 58. I was googling and I didn't find any polls. |
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I found this post though.
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| -Drug testing for welfare recipients. |
PassingFair |
Apr-15-11 07:42 AM |
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They don't need to be tested it they don't want benefits. |
dkf |
Apr-15-11 07:45 AM |
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So...submit to testing or die in the streets? nt |
PassingFair |
Apr-15-11 07:47 AM |
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They also have to submit other pieces of information to qualify. |
dkf |
Apr-15-11 07:51 AM |
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Blood and urine are not "pieces of information" required to process paperwork. n/t |
PassingFair |
Apr-15-11 08:29 AM |
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How will the nation's biggest corporate person/ welfare recipient pass the pee test? |
RedCloud |
Apr-15-11 10:36 AM |
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I've never had to give a urine sample to cash a check, you seem to be saying you have. |
uppityperson |
Apr-15-11 08:49 PM |
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My paycheck is direct deposited. |
blueamy66 |
Apr-15-11 11:28 PM |
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Why should they be tested? |
hobbit709 |
Apr-15-11 07:50 AM |
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I don't care either way but I acknowledge that there are conditions which must be met to qualify. |
dkf |
Apr-15-11 07:53 AM |
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So you think its a good thing to add another "rule"? |
PassingFair |
Apr-15-11 07:57 AM |
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If society chooses not to aid those who use illegal drugs so be it. |
dkf |
Apr-15-11 08:09 AM |
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"Society" being......? |
PassingFair |
Apr-15-11 08:18 AM |
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Well then let them vote the politicians out. |
dkf |
Apr-15-11 08:46 AM |
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That's why I posted this. Hey, I'm not Gallup! nt |
PassingFair |
Apr-15-11 08:47 AM |
#47 |
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I was googling and I didn't find any polls. |
dkf |
Apr-15-11 09:03 AM |
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By that standard, anything that happens is OK with you |
EstimatedProphet |
Apr-15-11 11:28 AM |
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Oh come on! |
blueamy66 |
Apr-15-11 11:34 PM |
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Apr-15-11 07:58 AM |
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It isn't unconstitutional or illegal to drug test people. |
dkf |
Apr-15-11 08:13 AM |
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Apr-15-11 08:16 AM |
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Eh boy. Right wing whatever. |
dkf |
Apr-15-11 08:28 AM |
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Who appointed you head of the Morality Police? |
hobbit709 |
Apr-15-11 08:31 AM |
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I did |
pintobean |
Apr-15-11 08:35 AM |
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Then you need to be tested immediately. |
Fuddnik |
Apr-15-11 09:36 AM |
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I get tested several times a year |
pintobean |
Apr-15-11 09:42 AM |
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Why do you need to be tested? Do you f*** up a lot. Several times a year? That's a lot of $$$$ |
devilgrrl |
Apr-15-11 08:31 PM |
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We have a consortium for the construction industry |
pintobean |
Apr-15-11 10:39 PM |
#151 |
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When I joined the Navy I had to piss four times in two days. |
Sirveri |
Apr-16-11 01:40 AM |
#163 |
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Lol. Been there |
pintobean |
Apr-16-11 07:08 AM |
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Uncalled for |
GKirk |
Apr-15-11 08:36 AM |
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when you take a moralistic approach |
hobbit709 |
Apr-15-11 08:37 AM |
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Never used an illegal drug ever. |
dkf |
Apr-15-11 08:38 AM |
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What about legal drugs? |
PassingFair |
Apr-15-11 08:41 AM |
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If you want to talk morality I would hope welfare is a two way street. |
dkf |
Apr-15-11 08:59 AM |
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"All this stuff about dignity for people on welfare" |
PassingFair |
Apr-15-11 09:05 AM |
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That is what I meant...being on welfare and bettering your life can bring dignity. |
dkf |
Apr-15-11 09:15 AM |
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I don't see how using legal drugs is any different. nt |
PassingFair |
Apr-15-11 09:18 AM |
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Are you making the arguement |
GKirk |
Apr-15-11 09:30 AM |
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Not much dignity in drunkenness either. |
dkf |
Apr-15-11 09:31 AM |
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More than just embarrassing if a random drug test... |
PassingFair |
Apr-15-11 09:37 AM |
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I ended it because I was afraid to have kids with someone who could be arrested for a DUI |
dkf |
Apr-15-11 09:46 AM |
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"Destroy their lives" |
hobbit709 |
Apr-15-11 09:08 AM |
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Can't you see that... |
GKirk |
Apr-15-11 09:12 AM |
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It is still their choice. I believe in "Let he who is without sin..." |
hobbit709 |
Apr-15-11 09:16 AM |
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You and the Republicans |
GKirk |
Apr-15-11 09:55 AM |
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And people with alcohol and gambling problems spend their money the same way. |
hobbit709 |
Apr-15-11 11:15 AM |
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Where does he say or imply "Screw the Kids!"? I don't see that, would you point it out? |
uppityperson |
Apr-15-11 08:52 PM |
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Maybe not |
BobbyBoring |
Apr-15-11 11:37 AM |
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And were you happy they did those things? |
dkf |
Apr-15-11 09:22 AM |
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I felt sorry about the way their lives went |
hobbit709 |
Apr-15-11 09:27 AM |
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I can certainly agree with that statement... |
GKirk |
Apr-15-11 09:32 AM |
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Re largesse |
SOS |
Apr-15-11 09:52 AM |
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Geez well maybe that explains what happened. |
dkf |
Apr-15-11 09:55 AM |
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It's either all or none |
SOS |
Apr-16-11 11:59 AM |
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I didn't say just drugs. |
hobbit709 |
Apr-15-11 08:41 AM |
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If I accidentally drove over the speed limit it wasn't intentional. |
dkf |
Apr-15-11 09:10 AM |
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What would you do with laws made against your 'type'? |
Bluenorthwest |
Apr-15-11 09:38 AM |
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Rules are rules. |
PassingFair |
Apr-15-11 09:40 AM |
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But that poster has no response. This is how we know the |
Bluenorthwest |
Apr-15-11 09:49 AM |
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If the rules are bad then change them. |
dkf |
Apr-15-11 10:05 AM |
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Got to get you in the Olympics |
GKirk |
Apr-15-11 10:12 AM |
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Established by whom? n/t |
PassingFair |
Apr-15-11 10:21 AM |
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Aren't you special... that must mean that you're superior and will never die! |
devilgrrl |
Apr-15-11 11:24 PM |
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Unlike those poor people. Really, they're like animals. |
PassingFair |
Apr-15-11 11:58 PM |
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Bully for you! |
Gemini Cat |
Apr-16-11 01:29 AM |
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Not the point |
leftynyc |
Apr-15-11 09:32 AM |
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Some of mine was in a way. |
hobbit709 |
Apr-15-11 09:35 AM |
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what about alcohol? |
anneboleyn |
Apr-15-11 09:03 PM |
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Actually, it IS unconstitutional. The ACLU has WON judgements on this! |
bobbolink |
Apr-15-11 05:54 PM |
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some rules are stoopid rules. |
Fuddnik |
Apr-15-11 09:33 AM |
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At the very basic level of humanity, people need shelter, food, and clothing. |
Skidmore |
Apr-15-11 10:45 AM |
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+1 |
PassingFair |
Apr-15-11 10:48 AM |
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I agree 200% |
BobbyBoring |
Apr-15-11 11:47 AM |
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And...think it through...what do you propose they do if they test "positive?" |
JanMichael |
Apr-15-11 08:29 AM |
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Drug testing for poor people makes sense |
think |
Apr-15-11 08:35 AM |
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They could be eating donuts and shit like that. We should test for sugar levels as well. |
PassingFair |
Apr-15-11 08:49 AM |
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Don't forget television, cigarettes, and sex |
think |
Apr-15-11 08:54 AM |
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They should DEFINITELY not be having SEX!!! |
PassingFair |
Apr-15-11 08:58 AM |
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OK we'll let them have TV |
think |
Apr-15-11 09:05 AM |
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Don't let them smile or worse, laugh. |
Gemini Cat |
Apr-16-11 01:14 AM |
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is there a test |
left is right |
Apr-15-11 09:11 AM |
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Only if their watching |
think |
Apr-15-11 09:13 AM |
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it's shit like this that |
Amaya |
Apr-15-11 09:30 AM |
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And Social Security too? And UE benefits? |
LanternWaste |
Apr-15-11 11:19 AM |
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You don't have an issue that tax dollars fund the tests? |
devilgrrl |
Apr-15-11 08:32 PM |
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Yeah, same goes for their kids...right? n/t |
cynatnite |
Apr-15-11 08:54 PM |
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I'm torn.... |
vi5 |
Apr-15-11 07:49 AM |
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Think false positves without recourse. |
hobbit709 |
Apr-15-11 07:55 AM |
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Good point. Hadn't thought of that.... |
vi5 |
Apr-15-11 07:58 AM |
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Well there should be a recourse |
dkf |
Apr-15-11 08:21 AM |
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Unfortunately there is no recourse in that system. |
hobbit709 |
Apr-15-11 08:33 AM |
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I would argue that a person who can afford cigarettes may not need our help. |
uppityperson |
Apr-15-11 08:57 PM |
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it's a "choice" to get welfare... right... |
eShirl |
Apr-15-11 08:52 AM |
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In terms of the 4th amendement it is..... |
vi5 |
Apr-15-11 09:11 AM |
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And if drug testing was a requirement for a driver's license, that would be OK too? |
PassingFair |
Apr-15-11 09:17 AM |
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It's 2 different questions.... |
vi5 |
Apr-15-11 09:25 AM |
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Why should the government be allowed to search people's fluids without probable cause? |
PassingFair |
Apr-15-11 09:35 AM |
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Why not read message number 66? |
GKirk |
Apr-15-11 10:17 AM |
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Well stated... |
GKirk |
Apr-15-11 09:27 AM |
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Where's the "probable cause" that would allow a search of blood & fluids? nt |
PassingFair |
Apr-15-11 09:25 AM |
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It's not the police testing them..... |
vi5 |
Apr-15-11 09:28 AM |
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So it only applies to "police", not "government agents"? |
PassingFair |
Apr-15-11 09:29 AM |
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That is a different question...... |
vi5 |
Apr-15-11 09:34 AM |
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The difference is the GOVERNMENT is doing the testing, not private employers. |
PassingFair |
Apr-15-11 09:38 AM |
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Fine. You're obviously a constitutional law scholar.... |
vi5 |
Apr-15-11 10:03 AM |
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I said GOOD DAY, sir! |
PassingFair |
Apr-15-11 10:11 AM |
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Ok but you are shutting yourself off to debate... |
GKirk |
Apr-15-11 10:26 AM |
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And you are oblivious to mockery. |
PassingFair |
Apr-15-11 10:28 AM |
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I don't have a problem with different opions. |
vi5 |
Apr-15-11 10:27 AM |
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People are forced to apply for welfare if there are no jobs. |
PassingFair |
Apr-15-11 10:29 AM |
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O.K. then. |
vi5 |
Apr-15-11 10:44 AM |
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Thank you for your concern about my use of my time. |
PassingFair |
Apr-15-11 10:47 AM |
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I never thought I'd see the day when this kind of poll would be held at DU. nt |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Apr-15-11 07:52 AM |
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Me neither...but you can see..some Democrats think this is A-OK! |
PassingFair |
Apr-15-11 07:55 AM |
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I can see that some posters here think that. |
Bluenorthwest |
Apr-15-11 08:20 AM |
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It's a big tent.... |
GKirk |
Apr-15-11 08:29 AM |
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Time to shrink the tent some then. Certain attitudes should not be tolerated in the Democratic Party |
NorthCarolina |
Apr-15-11 09:00 AM |
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No, it is not that big a tent, sorry. |
Bluenorthwest |
Apr-15-11 09:11 AM |
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If your opinion is so pure |
pintobean |
Apr-15-11 09:21 AM |
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Project much? I just said my opinion was my own and that I see |
Bluenorthwest |
Apr-15-11 09:44 AM |
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Is that what passes for reasoning |
pintobean |
Apr-15-11 09:57 AM |
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Only when you cut a hole in it and sneak in the back door like a thug. |
Dappleganger |
Apr-15-11 10:47 AM |
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the problem with the big tent is that sometimes vermin sneak in under the flaps |
frylock |
Apr-15-11 10:48 AM |
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And then they pee INSIDE the tent. |
PassingFair |
Apr-16-11 04:12 PM |
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welcome to the NU-DU.. |
frylock |
Apr-15-11 10:47 AM |
#120 |
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I don't vote in push polls |
pintobean |
Apr-15-11 07:55 AM |
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What kind of drugs were those fucking bankers on? nt |
rrneck |
Apr-15-11 08:03 AM |
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+1 |
SammyWinstonJack |
Apr-15-11 08:11 AM |
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Since drug abuse occurs in similar percentages |
My Good Babushka |
Apr-15-11 08:12 AM |
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Maybe, IF, Congress, the Senate, the SC, |
Le Taz Hot |
Apr-15-11 08:13 AM |
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where's the button for drug testing elected representatives? |
Donnachaidh |
Apr-15-11 08:13 AM |
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+1 |
think |
Apr-15-11 08:30 AM |
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Beefed up, it doesn't go far enough |
quinnox |
Apr-15-11 08:19 AM |
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Let's drug test politicians and bankers instead |
think |
Apr-15-11 08:25 AM |
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Thank you. Welcome to DU, think. n/t |
Mnemosyne |
Apr-16-11 12:44 AM |
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Shoddy polling question |
GKirk |
Apr-15-11 08:28 AM |
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Who cares if it's for their "own good"? It shouldn't be asked for in the first place! |
PassingFair |
Apr-15-11 08:37 AM |
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My point is... |
GKirk |
Apr-15-11 08:55 AM |
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Drug testing for the T-baggers because of their crazy actions would be more appropriate. |
RC |
Apr-15-11 08:28 AM |
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Either that, or mental health evaluations n/t |
quinnox |
Apr-15-11 08:30 AM |
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What a waste of money. Deny Planned Parenthood funds for women and children... |
peace13 |
Apr-15-11 08:45 AM |
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I thought those teabaggers wanted government OUT of our lives. But they want this. |
jillan |
Apr-15-11 08:48 AM |
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Well they can start with Congress, then the Senate |
walldude |
Apr-15-11 08:51 AM |
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Politicians should be subjected to a lie detector |
think |
Apr-15-11 08:57 AM |
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What all constitutes "welfare" in your opinion? Farm and oil subsidies, bank bailouts, corporate |
Erose999 |
Apr-15-11 09:07 AM |
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unacceptable |
left is right |
Apr-15-11 09:07 AM |
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Only if they test EVERYONE that receives public funds. (nt) |
ehrnst |
Apr-15-11 09:12 AM |
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If I can live without drugs everyone else can... |
ileus |
Apr-15-11 10:49 AM |
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NO! |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Apr-15-11 10:56 AM |
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A person has to jump through enough hoops already to qualify for assistance. |
Arkansas Granny |
Apr-15-11 10:59 AM |
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This is a monumentally stupid idea |
EstimatedProphet |
Apr-15-11 11:21 AM |
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Point of the decade, EP! Here in PA it was about $350 a month for a woman with two children. |
Mnemosyne |
Apr-16-11 01:18 AM |
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It's just one more way to attempt cutting off welfare from needy people |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Apr-15-11 11:28 AM |
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I love threads like this - |
Morning Dew |
Apr-15-11 11:50 AM |
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Kick...because 11 percent is an odd number. |
PassingFair |
Apr-15-11 05:49 PM |
#133 |
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Not unless the polticians are tested DAILY. |
GoCubsGo |
Apr-15-11 05:58 PM |
#135 |
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Proud to be the 100th vote for Unacceptable! |
KamaAina |
Apr-15-11 06:00 PM |
#136 |
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Thank you, 106 people (not counting my vote). |
Lyric |
Apr-15-11 06:47 PM |
#137 |
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Thank YOU! |
PassingFair |
Apr-15-11 07:51 PM |
#138 |
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wow. some DUers are voting yes. sad |
Liberal_in_LA |
Apr-15-11 08:13 PM |
#139 |
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on the fence |
yeswecanandwedid |
Apr-15-11 08:28 PM |
#140 |
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Keep dehumanizing the poor. |
woo me with science |
Apr-15-11 08:47 PM |
#143 |
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+100000 |
uppityperson |
Apr-15-11 09:00 PM |
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EXCELLENT POST. Best I have read today. This evil attitude towards the poor |
anneboleyn |
Apr-15-11 09:16 PM |
#150 |
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I voted no, and the lawmakers who propoe this shit should |
tnlefty |
Apr-15-11 10:49 PM |
#152 |
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I am for it.... |
and-justice-for-all |
Apr-15-11 11:04 PM |
#153 |
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I'd love to see the management of GE take a blood test to get welfare money |
krispos42 |
Apr-16-11 01:37 AM |
#162 |
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