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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 12:09 PM
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31. Good point! I had been saying "50 years to the death of planet earth" but then
I corrected myself to "less than 50 years," because the WWF report actually says "by 2050." I first read the report in 2000. It's now 2011. The clock is ticking. And the U.S. has done nothing but go backwards on environmental protection since that report, including President Obama announcing increased offshore oil drilling just days before the BP oil disaster and then announcing increased federal funding and permits for nuclear plants days before the Fukushima nuclear disaster. Uncanny bad timing! But this insanity is not just his. It is across the board in our political establishment.

It is mind-boggling--and it is one of the many examples of our loss of democracy in the U.S..

We're all worried about Barry Bonds using steroids? Not. But who makes it SEEM AS IF everybody's worried about such trivia. The corporate 'news' monopolies, who write these scripts playing up bullshit and ignoring--not to mention lying about--the very real peril that our planet is in and that our democracy is in. Some of the most blatant idiots ever to have a public forum are now running the U.S. Congress. Who put them there? Not the American people. But do we hear even a breath of objection, from the so-called 'news media,' to corporate-run, 'TRADE SECRET' voting machines all over the U.S. in every state (not to mention the monopoly control of these election theft systems by one, private, far rightwing connected corporation--ES&S, which just bought out Diebold)?

The environment--the survival of our planet-- like war (and the war profiteers), has been placed out of our control.* We the People have NO control on these issues--and of course on other vital issues that involve the profit of the very rich. The corporate media lies, and looks the other way, and makes up bullshit to distract us with, and, like a self fulfilling prophecy, the corporate-run voting machines empower the stupidest among us (and the most corruptible) to write the laws.

A new thought cannot even be born in this atmosphere--that dolphins are sentient and that the ocean is THEIR home, and that dumping nuclear or other toxic waste into it is criminal for that reason (among others).

But check out what Bolivia has done. They've placed the right of Mother Nature ("Pachamama") to exist and prosper, apart from human needs and desires, in their Constitution! That's the kind of thinking that real democracy produces--thinking that is relevant to the crisis at hand. We need to look to Latin America for real democracy these days. They have it. We no longer do.


*(It's quite interesting that the $3.9 billion e-voting boondoggle that spread corporate election theft machines all over the U.S. was passed by the Anthrax Congress in the same month as the Iraq War Resolution--Oct '02. I think this was done partly in anticipation of the American people revolting against the Iraq War--with nearly 60% of the American people opposed to it during that period (Feb '03, all polls)--to keep Bush/Cheney in the White House and the war on track--and partly for future uses, like the fascist junta running Congress now. The corpo-fascist planners must be laughing out loud at how easily they put that one over on us--the 'TRADE SECRET' voting machines. One of things we need to understand is that they couldn't have done it without the collusion of the Democratic Party leadership. Lifelong Democratic voter and supporter here, so I don't make that accusation lightly or easily. Our leaders utterly betrayed us on this--out of fear or out of collusion, probably a mixed bag. It was, after all, the Anthrax Congress. But NOTHING excuses them NOW. It should have been Barack Obama's first act in office to de-privatize our voting system, and the fact that he hasn't shown the slightest interest in this fundamental of democracy points to "a deal." I do think he was elected but he was also permitted to be elected, and that's the problem. Believe me, they can easily--EASILY!--replace him and put anyone they want to in the White House in 2012.)
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  -My assessment of the Fukushima nuclear disaster Peace Patriot  Apr-14-11 05:41 PM   #0 
  - Thank you, Peace. K&R n/t  Mnemosyne   Apr-14-11 05:43 PM   #1 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Apr-14-11 05:43 PM   #2 
  - I never understood why engineer types don't design things for the absolute  HysteryDiagnosis   Apr-14-11 05:45 PM   #3 
  - Two reasons  FBaggins   Apr-14-11 06:59 PM   #7 
  - Hey, I have this highly flammable stuff, I need 100 containers to hold it, lemme  HysteryDiagnosis   Apr-14-11 08:15 PM   #12 
     - Great. And then when every part of the fucking airport is exploding, someone will say...  JVS   Apr-15-11 12:13 PM   #32 
        - I see your point. n/t  HysteryDiagnosis   Apr-15-11 12:49 PM   #34 
  - Actually it is simple  nadinbrzezinski   Apr-14-11 10:44 PM   #25 
  - What is the absolute worst-case scenario?  PVnRT   Apr-15-11 11:29 AM   #30 
     - Well, you could certainly fuckin' start by not building nuke plants...  ret5hd   Apr-15-11 01:40 PM   #35 
        - So, you wouldn't allow anything to be built on coastlines?  PVnRT   Apr-15-11 01:50 PM   #36 
           - yeah, that's what i said, didn't i? oh i didn't.  ret5hd   Apr-15-11 01:54 PM   #37 
              - Such an intelligent response  PVnRT   Apr-15-11 01:58 PM   #38 
  - thank you and rec  sasha031   Apr-14-11 05:57 PM   #4 
  - Thx, Peace Patriot!  snot   Apr-14-11 06:31 PM   #5 
  - reading this makes me sad and sick.....another thought I had  Gin   Apr-14-11 06:59 PM   #6 
  - I think the reason we don't send the spent fuel into space is  buddysmellgood   Apr-14-11 07:17 PM   #8 
  - I was just joking, really. But the joke illustrates the insanity of nuke power.  Peace Patriot   Apr-14-11 07:36 PM   #10 
  - Or maybe somebody watched Space:1999?  csziggy   Apr-14-11 10:02 PM   #23 
     - I had forgotten all about that show.  buddysmellgood   Apr-15-11 09:43 AM   #27 
  - Some corrections  FBaggins   Apr-14-11 07:19 PM   #9 
  - more corrections - Bikini Atoll is inhabitable more than a half century after the H-bomb test  jpak   Apr-14-11 08:41 PM   #15 
     - Inhabitable is a bad thing?  FBaggins   Apr-14-11 08:50 PM   #16 
     - There is a reason why there is an Atmospheric Test Ban Treaty - can you guess why?  jpak   Apr-14-11 08:57 PM   #17 
        - Because it killed everyone on the planet?  FBaggins   Apr-14-11 09:15 PM   #19 
           - That's what they were designed for - Mega Death  jpak   Apr-14-11 09:43 PM   #21 
              - I remember as well.  FBaggins   Apr-14-11 09:46 PM   #22 
     - Bikini Atoll and Russia---did you mean UNinhabitable?  BlancheSplanchnik   Apr-15-11 10:58 AM   #28 
  - The very real possibility that dolphins and whales may be sentient beings  Urban Prairie   Apr-14-11 07:56 PM   #11 
  - There is very little doubt at this point  Cetacea   Apr-14-11 09:12 PM   #18 
  - Pissed off mutant whales will be the enemy of the future!  JVS   Apr-15-11 12:19 PM   #33 
  - I posted this a month ago...  jpak   Apr-14-11 08:25 PM   #13 
  - K&R!! nt  nc4bo   Apr-14-11 08:40 PM   #14 
  - The 'spent fuel rods' label is actually a misnomer...  hayu_lol   Apr-14-11 09:18 PM   #20 
     - no, spent rods really are spent.  Sirveri   Apr-14-11 10:38 PM   #24 
  - K & R. So many people on this board don't even list "the environment" among  Lorien   Apr-15-11 02:07 AM   #26 
  - Good point! I had been saying "50 years to the death of planet earth" but then  Peace Patriot   Apr-15-11 12:09 PM   #31 
  - World Wildlife Fund's assessment.....  BlancheSplanchnik   Apr-15-11 11:00 AM   #29 

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