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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 05:20 PM
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3. What white_wolf said.
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  -Call me unsensible, a dreamer, or even childish all you want, but white_wolf  Apr-12-11 05:17 PM   #0 
  - If only we had a President...  JuniperLea   Apr-12-11 05:19 PM   #1 
  - Actually, I didn't even say they had to succeed in doing what I wanted,  white_wolf   Apr-12-11 05:21 PM   #4 
  - that is what is particularly galling, isn't it?  Donnachaidh   Apr-12-11 07:54 PM   #45 
  - "what is right" has become subjective...  JuniperLea   Apr-13-11 10:38 AM   #62 
  - If YOUR life was on the line, maybe you wouldn't find it so entertaining to judge others.  bobbolink   Apr-12-11 08:00 PM   #48 
  - I'm with you.  FiveGoodMen   Apr-12-11 05:19 PM   #2 
  - What white_wolf said.  Vincardog   Apr-12-11 05:20 PM   #3 
  - It's only 'unsensible' to think that ANY politician would fight for your ideas  leftstreet   Apr-12-11 05:24 PM   #5 
  - I am sick to death of the ridiculous argument that  woo me with science   Apr-12-11 05:26 PM   #6 
  - Not everyone who supports this administration is saying that. & The converse of your statement is  patrice   Apr-12-11 05:37 PM   #10 
  - You are right. Our last five Presidents have allowed  Cleita   Apr-12-11 05:28 PM   #7 
  - "we are no different than our former enemies Soviet Russia and China"  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-11 05:29 PM   #8 
  - You have the right to determine that for yourself, but not for others, especially when  patrice   Apr-12-11 05:30 PM   #9 
  - Don't you think that single-payer or at the very least a  white_wolf   Apr-12-11 05:42 PM   #14 
     - Absolutely! The question is how to do that effectively, without getting suckered (again)  patrice   Apr-12-11 06:02 PM   #33 
  - But you're not the only one.  damntexdem   Apr-12-11 05:38 PM   #11 
  - You beat me to it!  tnlefty   Apr-12-11 05:44 PM   #16 
  - Me too.  polichick   Apr-12-11 05:39 PM   #12 
  - What are you doing to change things?  apples and oranges   Apr-12-11 05:41 PM   #13 
  - Giving what little money I can spare to real progessive canidates.  white_wolf   Apr-12-11 05:43 PM   #15 
     - I don't think money is the answer. Look at what was accomplished in Wisconsin  apples and oranges   Apr-12-11 05:47 PM   #17 
     - I don't think it is either, but  white_wolf   Apr-12-11 05:48 PM   #19 
     - Writing letters? Making phone calls? Attending hearings? Using all types of social media?  patrice   Apr-12-11 07:24 PM   #41 
     - As long as it is always someone else who is supposed to ________________,  patrice   Apr-12-11 07:55 PM   #46 
     - People are being systematically impoverished.  woo me with science   Apr-12-11 05:55 PM   #24 
        - Yeah, what happened to poor people didn't matter, because it was "THEM".  bobbolink   Apr-12-11 08:03 PM   #49 
     - I know a lot of people who are focusing their energies down ballot now,  woo me with science   Apr-12-11 05:52 PM   #22 
  - I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees. n/t  Scuba   Apr-12-11 05:47 PM   #18 
  - I'd rather live on...  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-11 05:49 PM   #20 
     - Yes, well the way things are going in this country  white_wolf   Apr-12-11 05:50 PM   #21 
        - Oh, Jesus...  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-11 05:54 PM   #23 
        - As much as I like all three of those,  white_wolf   Apr-12-11 05:56 PM   #25 
           - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-11 05:58 PM   #28 
              - First of all, quit with the Dude comments. It sounds childish  white_wolf   Apr-12-11 06:00 PM   #31 
                 - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-11 06:03 PM   #35 
                 - Numbers are what make things right or wrong? That's not terribly Liberal of you.  patrice   Apr-12-11 08:06 PM   #50 
                 - Are you aware how this stuff about "Dude" is kind of an odd thing for a Liberal to say?  patrice   Apr-12-11 08:42 PM   #58 
        - That's pretty much guaranteed if enough of us wait until daddy gets it perfect before we  patrice   Apr-12-11 08:14 PM   #53 
  - Spend less time complaining about Obama and go make this candidate  JoePhilly   Apr-12-11 05:57 PM   #26 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-12-11 06:17 PM   #37 
  - 1++++++++++++  patrice   Apr-12-11 07:46 PM   #43 
  - I agree, I'm tired of limp noodle..  Search4Justice   Apr-12-11 05:57 PM   #27 
  - I wonder if all progressives just left the party at once and  white_wolf   Apr-12-11 05:59 PM   #29 
     - No...  SDuderstadt   Apr-12-11 06:00 PM   #30 
     - I don't pretend to speak for ..  Search4Justice   Apr-12-11 06:24 PM   #38 
     - Some of us think that is a very unrealistic "understanding" of how things work, some of us such as  patrice   Apr-12-11 08:10 PM   #51 
        - I "understand" that ..  Search4Justice   Apr-13-11 07:23 AM   #61 
     - I was guessing that was in there somewhere. Please respond to what would FIRST happen:  patrice   Apr-12-11 08:00 PM   #47 
     - Please give us a plausible scenario in which the Greens can deliver on our national issues in, say,  patrice   Apr-12-11 08:20 PM   #54 
     - The Greens have no interest in poverty. I am beyond working for or even voting for anyone  bobbolink   Apr-12-11 08:43 PM   #59 
        - Oh, I know a few Greens who are around the Quakers who are serious about poverty. Others are  patrice   Apr-12-11 08:53 PM   #60 
  - I don't mind moderation and compromise, but not with this vile and wretched GOP  I Drink Water   Apr-12-11 06:01 PM   #32 
  - Agree, and this "entitlement" shit. Societies take care of their own and that's  Safetykitten   Apr-12-11 06:03 PM   #34 
  - Agree!! Noblese oblige (the obligations of nobility) makes me want to puke and yet that's the sum  patrice   Apr-12-11 08:31 PM   #56 
  - gee how original. I think everyone wants that.  cali   Apr-12-11 06:07 PM   #36 
  - waaaahh! I want a pony! Waaahhh!  provis99   Apr-12-11 06:26 PM   #39 
  - Just because some people observe that other people want things to appear out of nowhere, so that  patrice   Apr-12-11 07:50 PM   #44 
  - What is at dispute here is the definition of the word "fight". Assumptions, such as,  patrice   Apr-12-11 07:04 PM   #40 
  - Fighting would entail not making backroom deals with insurance companies  white_wolf   Apr-12-11 08:24 PM   #55 
     - Agree. And what all did you do during those debates? Wait? And . . .  patrice   Apr-12-11 08:35 PM   #57 
  - Apparently, from some answers in this thread, what is also at dispute here is who is supposed to  patrice   Apr-12-11 07:43 PM   #42 
  - Have a president and congress that fights for your ideas? And you still believe in Santa...  Imagevision   Apr-12-11 08:12 PM   #52 

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