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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 04:40 PM
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32. The plan isn't to "fix" Social Security and Medicare. The plan is to dismantle it.

One big step at a time.

To achieve this objective it will have to be a bi-partisan effort.

Republicans can't do it alone.

Or they would have.
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  -I Remember America WilliamPitt  Apr-12-11 03:38 PM   #0 
  - I Remember America  DFab420   Apr-12-11 03:53 PM   #1 
  - And you actually think it's better now?  WilliamPitt   Apr-12-11 03:55 PM   #2 
  - And you think we are worse off?  DFab420   Apr-12-11 04:03 PM   #11 
     - What's this "we" shit, DFab?  WilliamPitt   Apr-12-11 04:08 PM   #15 
        - Woah man..  DFab420   Apr-12-11 04:16 PM   #21 
           - If you left college three years ago, how is it that  Moondog   Apr-12-11 06:13 PM   #73 
              - Crushed pearls in vinegar  DFab420   Apr-12-11 06:25 PM   #78 
                 - Uh, where are you finding virgins?  Moondog   Apr-12-11 06:27 PM   #79 
                    - Haha tricks of the trade my friend..  DFab420   Apr-12-11 06:28 PM   #82 
  - Yes, yes. Remembering and wanting to return to what was good in the past means we can't possibly  Brickbat   Apr-12-11 03:55 PM   #3 
  - Well.. considering wanting to return to what is good  DFab420   Apr-12-11 04:05 PM   #13 
     - It doesn't mean that at all.  Brickbat   Apr-12-11 04:11 PM   #18 
        - Yes but  DFab420   Apr-12-11 04:19 PM   #23 
           - When did we get "Government Healthcare"?  Kermitt Gribble   Apr-12-11 06:55 PM   #88 
              - Your right it's called the Affordable Care Act.  DFab420   Apr-12-11 07:22 PM   #89 
  - Damn, you must be old!  Blue-Jay   Apr-12-11 03:58 PM   #4 
  - lol yea beyond my years  DFab420   Apr-12-11 04:02 PM   #7 
  - ambrose bierce  mountainlion55   Apr-12-11 04:21 PM   #25 
  - Let me congratulate you on  Newest Reality   Apr-12-11 04:02 PM   #8 
  - Please enlighten me  DFab420   Apr-12-11 04:34 PM   #30 
  - Thanks for providing a handy reference list to where the Republicans want to take us.  pacalo   Apr-12-11 04:26 PM   #26 
  - They have a word for that...  Wait Wut   Apr-12-11 04:42 PM   #33 
  - Nice, but I doubt you are 150+ years old.  Rex   Apr-12-11 06:36 PM   #85 
  - And this president is taking us right back to that -  TBF   Apr-13-11 10:06 AM   #113 
  - "Maybe it's time to revisit the assumption that the Obama White House got rolled."  ProSense   Apr-12-11 04:00 PM   #5 
  - Hm.  WilliamPitt   Apr-12-11 04:03 PM   #9 
  - What does that have to do with the CR? n/t  ProSense   Apr-12-11 04:04 PM   #12 
     - Everything  WilliamPitt   Apr-12-11 04:07 PM   #14 
        - It has nothing to do with the CR. Nothing! n/t  ProSense   Apr-12-11 04:09 PM   #16 
           - Mm.  WilliamPitt   Apr-12-11 04:12 PM   #19 
           - Your response shows it is much more about bashing a personality than about being critical of policy.  BzaDem   Apr-12-11 04:58 PM   #40 
              - Projection  liberation   Apr-12-11 06:01 PM   #69 
           - Of course to you it doesn't. You cannot play 5 dimensional chess.  Rex   Apr-12-11 06:41 PM   #86 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-12-11 04:17 PM   #22 
  - Whoa. Apparently, Reagan has risen from the grave.  Zorra   Apr-12-11 04:01 PM   #6 
  - another good one, Will. K&R  inna   Apr-12-11 04:03 PM   #10 
  - K/R  Autumn   Apr-12-11 04:10 PM   #17 
  - Anyone who proposes cuts to Soc.Sec, Medicare, and Medicaid IS. NO. DEMOCRAT.  kath   Apr-12-11 04:13 PM   #20 
  - This really should be the breaking point observed by all who post here  kenny blankenship   Apr-12-11 04:26 PM   #27 
  - Thank you. I also don't think that anyone who supports tax cuts for the wealthiest, when their  kath   Apr-12-11 05:08 PM   #49 
  - The New Democrats were always a poison pill. I don't know  mmonk   Apr-13-11 05:08 AM   #99 
  - you are no judge of who is or isn't anything-  Bluerthanblue   Apr-12-11 04:40 PM   #31 
  - Here are the cuts broken down agency by agency  DFab420   Apr-12-11 04:49 PM   #38 
     - thanks for this-  Bluerthanblue   Apr-12-11 05:02 PM   #41 
        - Of course they aren't  DFab420   Apr-12-11 05:05 PM   #45 
  - + 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!!  WillyT   Apr-12-11 05:07 PM   #46 
  - Your memory of America is stunted by your absolute hatred for the man.  cliffordu   Apr-12-11 04:19 PM   #24 
  - Are you kidding me?  Hell Hath No Fury   Apr-12-11 05:14 PM   #53 
     - Yadda yadda blabbdey bloop de bloop.  cliffordu   Apr-12-11 05:47 PM   #67 
     - perfect illustration, indeed.  inna   Apr-12-11 06:27 PM   #80 
     - Yep. In fact, I remember him being very insulting to those that didn't buy into some of O's views.  demmiblue   Apr-12-11 06:17 PM   #77 
     - I remember it just as you do.  Hell Hath No Fury   Apr-12-11 06:32 PM   #84 
     - Thank goodness for the ignore function.  Bluebear   Apr-13-11 05:13 AM   #101 
  - It's still too early  madamesilverspurs   Apr-12-11 04:32 PM   #28 
  - The plan isn't to "fix" Social Security and Medicare. The plan is to dismantle it.  Better Believe It   Apr-12-11 04:40 PM   #32 
  - do you have any facts to back that up?  Bluerthanblue   Apr-12-11 04:42 PM   #34 
     - Nope - they never do.  cliffordu   Apr-12-11 05:47 PM   #68 
  - Soc Sec has less than 1% administrative cost.  eridani   Apr-13-11 05:11 AM   #100 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-12-11 04:33 PM   #29 
  - That will be the straw for me. If he touches any of those programs in  RegieRocker   Apr-12-11 04:43 PM   #35 
  - Really?  DFab420   Apr-12-11 04:46 PM   #36 
     - Yep. I have had it with him and those like you.  RegieRocker   Apr-12-11 04:53 PM   #39 
     - Yes.. "those" like me  DFab420   Apr-12-11 05:03 PM   #43 
     - Anyone who is in favor of cutting any of those programs is no liberal or  RegieRocker   Apr-12-11 05:07 PM   #47 
        - Well see thats just not true.  DFab420   Apr-12-11 05:11 PM   #51 
           - Lol so it's money not being spent! Get this! We have money left over.  RegieRocker   Apr-12-11 05:19 PM   #56 
              - We have been raiding Social Security??  DFab420   Apr-12-11 05:29 PM   #60 
                 - Get a clue. Oh, I have you one now didn't I? Do some research.  RegieRocker   Apr-12-11 05:33 PM   #64 
                    - Umm.. I have done some research  DFab420   Apr-12-11 05:43 PM   #65 
                       - Really? Read this.  RegieRocker   Apr-12-11 06:06 PM   #71 
                          - :facepalm:  DFab420   Apr-12-11 06:14 PM   #74 
                             - You got to be kidding!  RegieRocker   Apr-13-11 09:50 AM   #110 
     - Wow.  Wait Wut   Apr-12-11 05:12 PM   #52 
        - There comes a point when enough is enough. I made it clear.  RegieRocker   Apr-12-11 05:32 PM   #63 
           - I think that is called quitting.  Bluerthanblue   Apr-12-11 05:44 PM   #66 
              - Pschyobable. I quit nothing, I fire. I fire my employer it is he who quits  RegieRocker   Apr-12-11 06:16 PM   #76 
                 - Fire at huh? Don't retreat reload I guess...  DFab420   Apr-12-11 06:27 PM   #81 
                 - Civility? To let s.s. be changed or touched in a negative  RegieRocker   Apr-13-11 09:45 AM   #109 
                 - we live in a society- you don't have the imperial perogative-  Bluerthanblue   Apr-12-11 06:29 PM   #83 
                    - You're the quitter you have already submitted to b.s. . Obviously it's  RegieRocker   Apr-13-11 09:42 AM   #108 
     - "In the middle of a crisis..." What's the crisis?  leftstreet   Apr-12-11 05:04 PM   #44 
        - ..Ummm  DFab420   Apr-12-11 05:08 PM   #50 
        - That isn't a crisis. Giving tax breaks to the rich is the crisis. Wars? Pull the  RegieRocker   Apr-12-11 05:15 PM   #54 
           - everything you list has been going on for the last 10 yrs. so your  Bluerthanblue   Apr-12-11 05:18 PM   #55 
              - ...You don't think we've been in a crisis the last 10 years?  DFab420   Apr-12-11 05:22 PM   #57 
                 - oh hell yes-  Bluerthanblue   Apr-12-11 05:29 PM   #61 
                    - Ah I see  DFab420   Apr-12-11 05:30 PM   #62 
                       - "crisis" and "systemic problems" are two very different things  liberation   Apr-12-11 06:08 PM   #72 
        - Really?  WilliamPitt   Apr-12-11 10:28 PM   #95 
  - HUGE K & R !!!  WillyT   Apr-12-11 04:48 PM   #37 
  - K & R  davidthegnome   Apr-12-11 05:03 PM   #42 
  - disapointing. You are a gifted writer  Bluerthanblue   Apr-12-11 05:08 PM   #48 
  - I remember that America too Will  Tom Rinaldo   Apr-12-11 05:23 PM   #58 
  - Some chance that you're right.  damntexdem   Apr-12-11 05:28 PM   #59 
  - Well done Mr. Pitt, you magnificent bastid you.  Safetykitten   Apr-12-11 06:05 PM   #70 
  - i bet he gets the reduction in entitlements and more tax CUTS for the rich  spanone   Apr-12-11 06:15 PM   #75 
  - Maybe someday we will get adults in charge and that actually  Rex   Apr-12-11 06:48 PM   #87 
  - How do you see the cuts as black and white?  DFab420   Apr-12-11 07:25 PM   #90 
  - Obama's 2012 campaign slogans  realFedUp   Apr-12-11 07:34 PM   #91 
  - I've been saying for two years  Mosaic   Apr-12-11 07:53 PM   #92 
  - A hearty REC for this one. For everyone who is throwing out crap like  bertman   Apr-12-11 08:48 PM   #93 
  - And At 54, This Is The Reason That I Will Not Fall For Voting For This Man Again  cantbeserious   Apr-12-11 09:18 PM   #94 
  - Yeah. Let's help Romney, Trump or Palin become President.  Nye Bevan   Apr-13-11 09:51 AM   #111 
  - k&r  Crewleader   Apr-12-11 11:27 PM   #96 
  - K&R  ProudDad   Apr-13-11 01:26 AM   #97 
  - Healthcare costs have been out of control for many years, we have to do something about it.  Major Hogwash   Apr-13-11 05:04 AM   #98 
  - Bullshit. Cut millionaires out of SocSec and you lose your justification for raising the FICA cap  eridani   Apr-13-11 05:19 AM   #102 
     - No, millionaires were NEVER supposed to receive benefits like that. Nor billionaires.  Major Hogwash   Apr-13-11 05:24 AM   #104 
        - Neither was eliminating the FICA cap  eridani   Apr-13-11 05:29 AM   #105 
           - For retired investors that are eligible for SS benefits there is already a limit to the amounts.  Major Hogwash   Apr-13-11 05:37 AM   #106 
              - Yes. That was the purpose of the FICA cap.  eridani   Apr-13-11 05:44 AM   #107 
              - Means-testing Social Security is the sneakiest and quickest way to destroy it.  Nye Bevan   Apr-13-11 09:57 AM   #112 
                 - Bingo. You don't need to means test. Just have a maximum amount payable per year n/t  eridani   Apr-13-11 05:37 PM   #114 
  - GOBAMA!  indimuse   Apr-13-11 05:21 AM   #103 
 

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