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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 02:16 AM
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80. Well, yes -- stolen elections over 50 years ... and
50 years of rw political violence which took not only our president

but our people's government --

an later any liberal leadership fighting for human and civil rights!!

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  -The Gruesome Truth Is American Elections CAN & ARE BE RIGGED kpete  Apr-12-11 11:16 AM   #0 
  - And should anyone suggest it is a fraud they will be accused of  zeemike   Apr-12-11 11:25 AM   #1 
  - Yes. This is the Catch-22 - and it's hard to get enough movement against it for that reason nt  flamingdem   Apr-12-11 11:26 AM   #2 
  - Those who don't agree this is true are Willfully Ignorant at best.  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-12-11 11:30 AM   #4 
  - I was immediately "scolded" by two co-workers  Greybnk48   Apr-12-11 11:35 AM   #6 
  - If you believe that transmitted credit card info can be stolen...  joeunderdog   Apr-12-11 12:19 PM   #23 
     - and I think elections are stolen more frequently....  robinlynne   Apr-12-11 07:44 PM   #30 
        - Yes, and  chervilant   Apr-12-11 10:54 PM   #34 
           - yep. I rememeber that night in the exact same way.  robinlynne   Apr-12-11 11:51 PM   #36 
           - Yes: Kerry was up 3%, and when I woke, Bush was up 3%; AND  snot   Apr-13-11 01:30 AM   #40 
           - And then they decided to deep-six all exit polling, because  tblue37   Apr-13-11 03:46 PM   #66 
              - +1 --  defendandprotect   Apr-15-11 02:04 AM   #74 
  - Spot-on  Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel   Apr-13-11 03:27 PM   #61 
  - It's all in the programming of the computers.  hobbit709   Apr-12-11 11:27 AM   #3 
  - Yep... bears repeating  BeFree   Apr-12-11 11:36 AM   #8 
  - There are no impartial observers, and people are no more trustworthy than machines  eridani   Apr-12-11 08:55 PM   #31 
     - But worth noting: it's a lot harder to rig elections w/o electronics.  snot   Apr-13-11 01:34 AM   #41 
        - Not really. Paper ballot elections have been stolen since elections were invented  eridani   Apr-13-11 04:21 AM   #43 
           - Lever machines did stop the worst abuses.  Wilms   Apr-13-11 09:35 AM   #47 
  - Go here re Diebold::  savannah43   Apr-13-11 07:31 PM   #71 
  - Elections certainly CAN be rigged. Whether or not they actually ARE is tougher to prove.  Wilms   Apr-12-11 11:33 AM   #5 
  - thanks Wilms  kpete   Apr-12-11 11:39 AM   #10 
  - well  BeFree   Apr-12-11 11:40 AM   #12 
  - Fuss about all you want over unverifiable exit polls.  Wilms   Apr-13-11 09:38 AM   #48 
     - Among us?  BeFree   Apr-13-11 02:58 PM   #58 
        - I could care less what Rove thinks.  Wilms   Apr-13-11 03:30 PM   #62 
  - Right. They are not.  glinda   Apr-13-11 01:02 AM   #38 
  - We NEED paper ballots, marked by hand, and counted in public on a national voting holiday that  patrice   Apr-12-11 11:35 AM   #7 
  - Are you absolutely insane?  upi402   Apr-12-11 11:38 AM   #9 
  - I'm glad we agree about this!  patrice   Apr-12-11 11:43 AM   #13 
  - You never want to give people proof of how they voted.  drm604   Apr-12-11 11:54 AM   #15 
  - Social Security numbers and account numbers are generally very safe  upi402   Apr-12-11 11:58 AM   #16 
  - The post I replied to suggested duplicate ballots. n/t  drm604   Apr-12-11 12:30 PM   #26 
  - You better panic then, because the blue States of Oregon and  Bluenorthwest   Apr-12-11 12:11 PM   #18 
     - Oh, Oregon and Washington do it, and we have absentee ballots,  drm604   Apr-12-11 12:27 PM   #24 
        - Agreed. Absentee isn't so great.  Wilms   Apr-13-11 09:42 AM   #50 
  - Because no paper-based voting system has ever been rigged  slackmaster   Apr-12-11 12:15 PM   #21 
  - YES. Other countries do it; we can, too.  snot   Apr-13-11 01:35 AM   #42 
  - +1000% --  defendandprotect   Apr-15-11 02:05 AM   #75 
  - R'd  Poboy   Apr-12-11 11:39 AM   #11 
  - I read somewhere that it's easier to rig a voting machine than a Vegas slot machine.  Initech   Apr-12-11 11:50 AM   #14 
  - k&r! nt  wildbilln864   Apr-12-11 12:07 PM   #17 
  - cognitive dissonance...  wildbilln864   Apr-12-11 12:12 PM   #19 
  - I've never used a voting machine.  Bluenorthwest   Apr-12-11 12:13 PM   #20 
  - YOU never used a "voting machine".  Wilms   Apr-13-11 09:45 AM   #51 
  - WHICH party does the rigging?  marions ghost   Apr-12-11 12:17 PM   #22 
  - it appears to be the rethugs..  2banon   Apr-15-11 04:15 PM   #87 
  - Is it me, or did this country take a BIG swing to Right  joeunderdog   Apr-12-11 12:29 PM   #25 
  - Voting computers began to come in during late-1960's ... !!!  defendandprotect   Apr-15-11 02:09 AM   #76 
  - Conyers was all over election integrity after 2004. Anyone ask him why he  wiggs   Apr-12-11 12:45 PM   #27 
  - Ironic Dem Party is so disinterested in computer voting?  defendandprotect   Apr-15-11 02:11 AM   #77 
  - Interesting that, about Conyers, isn't it? n/t  2banon   Apr-15-11 04:03 PM   #86 
  - state of the art voting machines? You mean paper ballots, counted publicly by 3 people, right?  robinlynne   Apr-12-11 07:42 PM   #28 
  - K & R !!!  WillyT   Apr-12-11 07:43 PM   #29 
  - More from first article...  Melissa G   Apr-12-11 08:58 PM   #32 
  - So TRUE!! And the Democrats RAN FAST AND FAR AWAY FROM any  bertman   Apr-12-11 09:30 PM   #33 
  - The grave of a democracy is a mass grave--there's room for all of us.  livefreest   Apr-12-11 11:49 PM   #35 
  - Americans are fools  Mosaic   Apr-13-11 12:39 AM   #37 
  - +1000% ---  defendandprotect   Apr-15-11 02:13 AM   #78 
  - Kick for being the main action to make change possible.  glinda   Apr-13-11 01:07 AM   #39 
  - A decade after 00 and this is still one of our most pressing issues.  xchrom   Apr-13-11 05:06 AM   #44 
  - So when is the march on DC for our voting rights?  fasttense   Apr-13-11 08:02 AM   #45 
  - We are becoming no better than a third world country when it comes to elections..  piggy2000   Apr-13-11 11:56 AM   #52 
     - Actually, many third world nations are better.  Wilms   Apr-13-11 03:34 PM   #64 
        - +1 --  defendandprotect   Apr-15-11 02:14 AM   #79 
  - K & R!  lonestarnot   Apr-13-11 08:31 AM   #46 
  - The two-story outhouse -- perfect! -nt  Terry in Austin   Apr-13-11 09:39 AM   #49 
  - Bradblog has been all over this for the past several years-- there clearly is massive fraud  spooked911   Apr-13-11 12:10 PM   #53 
  - Jonathan Simon has been hands on involved for years:  mod mom   Apr-15-11 03:30 PM   #84 
  - Absolutely  colsohlibgal   Apr-13-11 12:20 PM   #54 
  - Duh, How do you tink we got where we are. Elections are easy to steal.  Aaria   Apr-13-11 12:50 PM   #55 
  - Well, yes -- stolen elections over 50 years ... and  defendandprotect   Apr-15-11 02:16 AM   #80 
  - Being at DU has taught me that every election lost by a Democrat is an indication of voter fraud  tritsofme   Apr-13-11 12:53 PM   #56 
  - That's crazy talk  BeFree   Apr-13-11 02:56 PM   #57 
     - In order to believe these silly vote fraud conspiracies, you would have to believe either  tritsofme   Apr-13-11 03:17 PM   #59 
        - O  BeFree   Apr-13-11 03:23 PM   #60 
        - Do I think elections are systemically stolen? No, I think that is nonsense.  tritsofme   Apr-13-11 03:33 PM   #63 
        - Address your points?  BeFree   Apr-13-11 05:09 PM   #70 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-13-11 03:53 PM   #67 
        - What about a Dem Party which harbored Koch Bros. DLC wing for decades ...  defendandprotect   Apr-15-11 02:18 AM   #81 
        - Election Rigging and Voter Fraud are Two Different Things..  2banon   Apr-15-11 04:21 PM   #89 
  - I thought everybody had known of this possibility since 2000.  Brigid   Apr-13-11 03:39 PM   #65 
  - 2000 should have been a huge wake-up ... but not for Democratic Party -- !!!  defendandprotect   Apr-15-11 02:20 AM   #82 
  - Its amazing what has happened in this country  AsahinaKimi   Apr-13-11 03:53 PM   #68 
  - What I find mind numbing, is that we need something  zalinda   Apr-13-11 04:23 PM   #69 
  - They are be rigged fo' sho'  deaniac21   Apr-13-11 07:38 PM   #72 
  - Many think our stolen elections begin in 2000 -- yet voting computers came in during late-1960's ...  defendandprotect   Apr-15-11 02:01 AM   #73 
  - Not that anyone does anything about it, even when proven  L. Coyote   Apr-15-11 03:22 PM   #83 
  - I hate it when people-EVEN HERE-treat this as conspiracy theory  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-15-11 03:36 PM   #85 
  - it's an attempt to sweep it under the rug..  2banon   Apr-15-11 04:27 PM   #90 
  - ?? "CAN & ARE BE RIGGED" ??  L. Coyote   Apr-15-11 04:16 PM   #88 
 

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