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_ed_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 07:01 PM
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40. FYI--I hardly trust your legal opinion
See UCMJ Art. 13 discussion in the thread above.
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  - .  Guy Whitey Corngood   Apr-11-11 04:44 PM   #1 
  - Close.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Apr-11-11 04:49 PM   #2 
  - +1000!  G_j   Apr-11-11 05:08 PM   #7 
  - +1  Canuckistanian   Apr-11-11 06:50 PM   #37 
  - K&r  CelticThunder   Apr-11-11 04:56 PM   #3 
  - If this story is going to be recycled,  ProSense   Apr-11-11 04:56 PM   #4 
  - It's not like there are many sources for them to check.  Wilms   Apr-11-11 05:05 PM   #5 
  - Manning's own attorney has a blog. There's also a litle something lawyers do--  msanthrope   Apr-11-11 05:14 PM   #8 
     - As I said above, there seems to be two inaccurate claims.  Wilms   Apr-11-11 06:15 PM   #25 
     - What claims? Referring to Manning's own filings, his own claims  msanthrope   Apr-11-11 06:42 PM   #34 
        - I'm referring to the letter. It's linked in the OP article.  Wilms   Apr-11-11 06:58 PM   #38 
           - So, then, Manning and his attorney aren't claiming torture then?  msanthrope   Apr-11-11 07:13 PM   #44 
           - I see it fit to reference the letter that the post is about.  Wilms   Apr-11-11 07:15 PM   #45 
           - Well, I'm referencing sworn facts from Mr. Manning himself.  msanthrope   Apr-11-11 07:16 PM   #49 
              - .  Wilms   Apr-11-11 07:47 PM   #61 
                 - Wow. Maybe his lawyer should use it as an exhibit. n/t  msanthrope   Apr-11-11 07:50 PM   #63 
           - And as I've pointed out, with quotes from Manning's own  sabrina 1   Apr-11-11 09:16 PM   #70 
           - 'John Yooniversity'!  sabrina 1   Apr-11-11 09:19 PM   #71 
     - Did YOU read his complaint? I have to think you did not  sabrina 1   Apr-11-11 07:12 PM   #43 
        - Being told to start walking is torture????  msanthrope   Apr-11-11 07:25 PM   #54 
           - Manning claims that his Constitutional rights have been violated.  sabrina 1   Apr-11-11 09:03 PM   #68 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Apr-11-11 05:06 PM   #6 
  - Do you even read the stuff you link?  RUMMYisFROSTED   Apr-11-11 05:15 PM   #9 
  - Yes, do you? n/t  ProSense   Apr-11-11 05:31 PM   #12 
     - Sure. E.g., there's at least 3 sitting ducks in the body of your post:  RUMMYisFROSTED   Apr-11-11 06:17 PM   #27 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-11-11 06:25 PM   #28 
        - What is more transparent than Manning's own filings?  msanthrope   Apr-11-11 06:35 PM   #31 
        - I was kvetching about non-supportive links, not the veracity of the claims themselves.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Apr-12-11 08:51 AM   #88 
        - Here,  ProSense   Apr-11-11 07:18 PM   #50 
  - Note that Manning's own 138 complaint backs your post, ProSense--  msanthrope   Apr-11-11 05:18 PM   #10 
  - Thanks.  ProSense   Apr-11-11 05:30 PM   #11 
  - Especially facts written by Mr. Manning HIMSELF!!!! Posted on his attorney's blog!!  msanthrope   Apr-11-11 05:40 PM   #14 
  - If Manning's story conflicts with the narrative that's being created, you're damned...  Tarheel_Dem   Apr-11-11 05:45 PM   #15 
  - Well, let's face it--there was a little matter of a fee. It's not like Assange was paying it.  msanthrope   Apr-11-11 05:54 PM   #17 
  - Except that Manning's story does not conflict with the  sabrina 1   Apr-11-11 09:29 PM   #73 
  - How sad to read your posts on this board. Manning  sabrina 1   Apr-11-11 09:26 PM   #72 
  - Who cares if two minor points were in factual error?  _ed_   Apr-11-11 05:38 PM   #13 
  - As they are the gravamen of the 8th amendment claim, factual error becomes important.  msanthrope   Apr-11-11 05:46 PM   #16 
  - I'm not concerned about the value of his 8th Amendment claims  _ed_   Apr-11-11 05:55 PM   #18 
  - You should be, if you truly care about him and others in confinement.  msanthrope   Apr-11-11 06:08 PM   #21 
     - Provide some links  _ed_   Apr-11-11 06:14 PM   #24 
        - Jeebus christ----his own friggen' lawyer says the 8th doesn't apply.  msanthrope   Apr-11-11 06:27 PM   #29 
           - Article 13?  _ed_   Apr-11-11 06:35 PM   #32 
           - Show me where, in the 138 claim, Manning or his lawyer claim  msanthrope   Apr-11-11 06:45 PM   #35 
              - Here you go:  _ed_   Apr-11-11 07:00 PM   #39 
              - You failed to cite anything but a blogpost.  msanthrope   Apr-11-11 07:11 PM   #42 
                 - He said he's going to file an Art. 13 claim in the future  _ed_   Apr-11-11 07:24 PM   #53 
                    - Look, it took him over 6 months to file the first 138. I'll believe it when I see it. n/t  msanthrope   Apr-11-11 07:36 PM   #56 
                       - If you know anything about the legal system,  _ed_   Apr-11-11 07:38 PM   #58 
                          - I know if you are bitching about the length of pre-trial detention, you file quickly.  msanthrope   Apr-11-11 07:47 PM   #62 
                             - Yeah, cause this is just your garden variety UCMJ proceeding  _ed_   Apr-12-11 08:24 AM   #87 
              - More:  _ed_   Apr-11-11 07:02 PM   #41 
              - Again, as above, you are citing a blogpost, not the actual filings.  msanthrope   Apr-11-11 07:15 PM   #46 
                 - There are no "actual filings" for the Art. 13 claim  _ed_   Apr-11-11 07:27 PM   #55 
                    - So it's all speculative bullshit. Send in those donations, though!!! n/t  msanthrope   Apr-11-11 07:38 PM   #57 
                       - Yeah, just like any pending legal filing is "speculative bullshit"  _ed_   Apr-11-11 07:42 PM   #60 
                          - Hyperbole? I'm the only one citing the actual filings in the case!  msanthrope   Apr-11-11 07:53 PM   #65 
                             - You might want to look up the definition of  _ed_   Apr-12-11 08:13 AM   #84 
              - Do you think you are convincing anyone of anything?  sabrina 1   Apr-11-11 09:39 PM   #78 
                 - He doesn't care  _ed_   Apr-12-11 08:17 AM   #85 
                    - Yes, the reasoning sounds a lot like Bush's torture  sabrina 1   Apr-12-11 12:28 PM   #90 
           - Wrong, his own complaint, signed by his lawyer  sabrina 1   Apr-11-11 09:35 PM   #74 
              - +  Bluebear   Apr-13-11 03:39 AM   #93 
  - Call me naive...  shaayecanaan   Apr-11-11 07:40 PM   #59 
     - Okay. You are naive. He was charged last July, shortly after arrest. n/t  msanthrope   Apr-11-11 07:51 PM   #64 
  - Hmmmm?  ProSense   Apr-11-11 05:57 PM   #19 
     - Solitary confinement IS torture  _ed_   Apr-11-11 06:03 PM   #20 
        - He is not in solitary confinement.  msanthrope   Apr-11-11 06:10 PM   #22 
           - Have you ever experienced solitary confinement for months and months?  _ed_   Apr-11-11 06:13 PM   #23 
           - As I said, Manning isn't in solitary. He's in a single cell.  msanthrope   Apr-11-11 06:32 PM   #30 
              - The McCain quotes were about SOLITARY CONFINEMENT  _ed_   Apr-11-11 06:38 PM   #33 
              - He isn't in solitary confinement. In fact, he's not asking to have a roommate.  msanthrope   Apr-11-11 06:48 PM   #36 
                 - FYI--I hardly trust your legal opinion  _ed_   Apr-11-11 07:01 PM   #40 
                    - Don't, then. n/t  msanthrope   Apr-11-11 07:22 PM   #52 
              - He was in solitary confinement. You posted the complaint,  sabrina 1   Apr-11-11 07:16 PM   #47 
                 - As I said, Manning isn't in solitary. He's in a single cell. That's all that's at Quantico.  msanthrope   Apr-11-11 07:19 PM   #51 
                    - And again, Manning's own complaint, which you are using  sabrina 1   Apr-11-11 09:10 PM   #69 
                       - You're wasting your time  _ed_   Apr-12-11 08:18 AM   #86 
                          - True, but for others who have not read the complaint  sabrina 1   Apr-12-11 12:46 PM   #91 
           - Yes he is in Solitary Confinement. And it is in his complaint.  sabrina 1   Apr-11-11 09:46 PM   #79 
           - Yes he is in solitary confinement. His own complaint, which  sabrina 1   Apr-11-11 10:15 PM   #80 
  - What: is a broken record?  ooglymoogly   Apr-12-11 02:43 PM   #92 
  - President Obama needs a refresher course. Do you think the local community college there in DC  Shagbark Hickory   Apr-11-11 06:17 PM   #26 
  - He went to John Yooniversity right after the election. n/t  Wilms   Apr-11-11 07:16 PM   #48 
  - !!!  Bluebear   Apr-12-11 12:17 AM   #81 
  - Free Bradley Manning  mountainlion55   Apr-11-11 08:24 PM   #66 
  - So where was he when this happened before?  treestar   Apr-11-11 08:26 PM   #67 
  - I wish more of Obama's former professors were as outspoken as this one. n/t  Exilednight   Apr-11-11 09:36 PM   #75 
  - Wow, this thread was quite the "ignored" magnet!  Bluebear   Apr-11-11 09:37 PM   #76 
  - LOL, it sure is!  Dappleganger   Apr-11-11 09:38 PM   #77 
  - His mentor never lover him  liberation   Apr-12-11 08:02 AM   #82 
  - Overwhelming DU support for Manning commendable  Bragi   Apr-12-11 08:12 AM   #83 
     - Well said and quite accurate.  Search4Justice   Apr-12-11 11:29 AM   #89 
 

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