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36. Well, I am no I.T. expert but tampering w/ the vote totals
..... might be kind of simple by just entering "the new data" into the system and since
she was keeping the vote data on her own P.C., Nickolaus might have had a chance
to do just that but what would be harder to do would be to produce the poll logs
where the precincts workers check somebody in to vote and then crosses the person's
name off the list. There has to be either an absentee, a provisional ballot (If Wisconsin
has them), or the voters name crossed off in a poll log and signed off on by a poll worker
for every vote.

Legit Votes In must = Legit Votes Out.

After Ohio 2004 I have worked very hard on making sure people get to vote and
that their vote will be counted.
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  -And, in Wisconsin, the plot thickens... snacker  Apr-11-11 02:15 PM   #0 
  - Dog I hope our party won't roll over on this one  Taverner   Apr-11-11 02:16 PM   #1 
  - there isn`t a democrat in wisconsin that will roll...  madrchsod   Apr-11-11 03:32 PM   #41 
     - Good. They get my money then  Taverner   Apr-11-11 04:05 PM   #58 
     - I donated happily  peace frog   Apr-12-11 01:01 PM   #239 
     - Bingo!  MadMaddie   Apr-11-11 08:15 PM   #160 
     - so glad to hear this because nationally the party has been MIA  mod mom   Apr-12-11 07:29 AM   #199 
     - Absolutely correct. It's up to the states.  russspeakeasy   Apr-12-11 08:09 AM   #205 
     - Absolutely. That's exactly what I've been preaching.  Jackpine Radical   Apr-12-11 11:55 AM   #232 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Apr-11-11 02:19 PM   #2 
  - Her statement should not be missed...  hlthe2b   Apr-11-11 02:19 PM   #3 
  - Well, I've waited patiently on this topic.  Rex   Apr-11-11 02:31 PM   # 
  - Compare this with her press statement last week---Kind of interesting...  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-11-11 03:33 PM   #42 
  - "I don't know where the numbers Kathy was showing me ultimately came from"  midnight   Apr-11-11 11:19 PM   #172 
  - Kicked and recommended for the truth coming out.  Uncle Joe   Apr-11-11 02:20 PM   #4 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-11-11 02:22 PM   #5 
  - lol nt  IScreamSundays   Apr-11-11 02:45 PM   #19 
     - Yes, I am here!  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 03:10 PM   #31 
  - Verry Interesting  pscot   Apr-11-11 02:24 PM   #6 
  - Indeed.  themadstork   Apr-11-11 02:31 PM   #10 
     - that's what i'm hoping for :0)  Snoutport   Apr-11-11 02:50 PM   #21 
     - I don't want to rush into accusations of election fraud..." Wow, you are admitting this at DU?  elocs   Apr-11-11 03:35 PM   #43 
     - I really enjoyed this post  pintobean   Apr-11-11 03:43 PM   #46 
     - The quick dismissals of election fraud are very baffling, considering the current  pacalo   Apr-11-11 06:44 PM   #133 
     - Some of us whose motives you question are *IN* this battle. Directly.  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 06:48 PM   #134 
     - You know that we respect that, Nikki -- I've personally said so in many of the threads  pacalo   Apr-11-11 07:10 PM   #139 
     - So you blindly support the numbers from an ideologe who locked herself alone with the vote count in  w4rma   Apr-12-11 07:34 AM   #200 
     - it would be great if we all admitted that there's a lot we don't know  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-11-11 07:29 PM   #142 
     - Wow, great post & I appreciate your perspective. None of us know everything  pacalo   Apr-11-11 07:56 PM   #155 
        - oh noes! a civility outbreak! :)  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-11-11 09:00 PM   #163 
        - +1  intheflow   Apr-11-11 10:13 PM   #168 
        - When there are so many problems...  kenfrequed   Apr-12-11 10:26 AM   #221 
     - Very baffling, treating the current Repukelican party with respect  Doctor_J   Apr-12-11 08:26 AM   #206 
     - Both ways  FreeJoe   Apr-11-11 07:39 PM   #144 
     - Both ways, my white ass.  Dappleganger   Apr-11-11 09:05 PM   #166 
     - And....  bongbong   Apr-12-11 10:27 AM   #222 
     - Actual evidence of the former exists, but not the latter.  blackspade   Apr-12-11 12:44 PM   #237 
     - GOP election fraud has been very real. Voter fraud is a right-wing talking point joke.  Hissyspit   Apr-12-11 01:46 PM   #246 
     - "Both ways" is what the right wing says to cover their actions.  bigmonkey   Apr-12-11 02:17 PM   #248 
     - You, Sir...  Dappleganger   Apr-11-11 09:04 PM   #165 
     - There was no question about Alabama and Wisconsin sure is stinking to high heaven.  Hissyspit   Apr-12-11 01:44 PM   #245 
     - especially if it didn't change the outcome for others on the ballot  notadmblnd   Apr-11-11 08:27 PM   #161 
        - two different sets of people  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-12-11 04:49 AM   #188 
  - Wow...indeed. The plot DOES thicken. Her last paragraph...  in_cog_ni_to   Apr-11-11 02:25 PM   #7 
  - What is the law about having members of Both Parties present  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-11-11 03:53 PM   #49 
     - Yes, this is very suspicious!  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 04:06 PM   #60 
     - As someone said earlier, Access saves automatically.  alfredo   Apr-11-11 06:03 PM   #125 
        - Aha!  Plucketeer   Apr-12-11 11:58 AM   #234 
           - It can be disabled, but I don't know how.  alfredo   Apr-12-11 12:26 PM   #235 
     - Very good questions and those ALL need to be asked! n/t  in_cog_ni_to   Apr-11-11 04:18 PM   #61 
     - Ramona was also not a designated democratic observer, prior  LisaL   Apr-11-11 04:28 PM   #66 
     - I think she has been an observer for years in Waukesha Co  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-11-11 04:35 PM   #73 
     - She has been on the board of canvass since 2004  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 04:35 PM   #74 
        - But she was not a designated observer prior to getting a phone  LisaL   Apr-11-11 04:38 PM   #77 
           - Read it again  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 04:44 PM   #80 
              - If she were not contacted how could she have been an observer?  LisaL   Apr-11-11 04:46 PM   #82 
                 - Or.... as the the observer she SHOULD have been contacted, but was not?  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 04:53 PM   #87 
                    - If she was the observer during the election, wouldn't canvassing  LisaL   Apr-11-11 04:58 PM   #91 
                       - Here:  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 05:14 PM   #101 
                          - That still says nothing on whether she was there during the election.  LisaL   Apr-11-11 05:15 PM   #102 
                             - That is not the job of the Board of Canvass, ffs.  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 05:16 PM   #104 
                             - So what exactly are you arguing with me about?  LisaL   Apr-11-11 05:20 PM   #106 
                                - No, she's been on Board since 2004 and was selected because of her integrity  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 05:21 PM   #107 
                                   - I am not questioning her integrity, but she is also 80 and  LisaL   Apr-11-11 05:23 PM   #110 
                                      - What value would knowledge of computers offer in this scenario?  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 05:25 PM   #111 
                                         - None. A tabulator or voting machine can be hacked to generate a plausible-looking  gkhouston   Apr-11-11 05:30 PM   #113 
                                         - Right... if that was done it doesn't matter if it's an 80 y/o Ramona or Bill Gates.  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 05:44 PM   #117 
                                            - Damn, I was agreeing with you today up til this comment  rufus dog   Apr-11-11 07:37 PM   #143 
                                            - do we doubt that the canvass board did the canvass?  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-11-11 07:46 PM   #150 
                                            - Ramona was canvassing for two days and was not told  LisaL   Apr-11-11 09:37 PM   #167 
                                            - I agree with that; do you agree with me?  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-12-11 05:01 AM   #191 
                                            - Though Bill Gates would be aware of the potential and various methods used to hack elections  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-12-11 08:06 AM   #204 
                                         - Well she clearly felt it was important to bring it up after she  LisaL   Apr-11-11 05:53 PM   #119 
                             - post fail  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 05:18 PM   #105 
     - two clarifications  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-11-11 06:24 PM   #130 
        - Thank you for your input. You are right re #2  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-11-11 08:14 PM   #159 
  - Kick and Rec. Definitely appears to be much more to this story. nt  Parker CA   Apr-11-11 02:28 PM   #8 
  - This is THE bit of information that should kick off a federal investigation  Vinnie From Indy   Apr-11-11 02:30 PM   #9 
  - So Ramona was "called" into the room - by whom? Nickolaus?  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-11-11 04:03 PM   #54 
  - Oh wow!!  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 02:31 PM   #11 
  - Am I incorrect, or did you post the other day that your boss knew Ramona and  Vinnie From Indy   Apr-11-11 02:34 PM   #13 
  - Yes she did. See link below.  golddigger   Apr-11-11 02:41 PM   #18 
  - Uh no. Read that link again.  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 03:07 PM   #27 
  - No, read the link below  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 03:09 PM   #29 
  - Ramona also states she is 80, doesn't understand anything  LisaL   Apr-11-11 04:21 PM   #62 
     - I absolutely find that to be fishy.  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 04:33 PM   #71 
        - Ramona said she was not a designated observer prior  LisaL   Apr-11-11 04:37 PM   #76 
           - Read it again.  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 04:45 PM   #81 
              - I have interpreted her statement to mean that she was not  LisaL   Apr-11-11 04:47 PM   #83 
                 - Her exact words:  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 04:52 PM   #85 
                    - If she were there during the election, why would she expect  LisaL   Apr-11-11 04:55 PM   #88 
                    - I think you are right. They should have put a comma here:  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-11-11 04:57 PM   #90 
                    - Right, further adding to her own suspicions... and now all of ours.  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 04:58 PM   #92 
                    - Before the telephone call, I had not been contacted...  LisaL   Apr-11-11 05:02 PM   #94 
                    - Read the statement yet AGAIN.  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 05:15 PM   #103 
                       - She was one person selected from the board to do the canvassing.  LisaL   Apr-11-11 05:22 PM   #108 
                          - umm, because you're wrong?  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-11-11 07:02 PM   #135 
                             - Indeed. And she's been on the board since 2004.  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 07:04 PM   #136 
                             - So she is the only democratic member of the canvassing board?  LisaL   Apr-11-11 07:48 PM   #152 
                             - yes, canvassing boards have three members  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-11-11 08:02 PM   #158 
                             - I simply was not sure on whether the canvassing board  LisaL   Apr-12-11 01:18 AM   #181 
                                - the clerk appoints a replacement  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-12-11 05:14 AM   #192 
                                - mmm hmm... The CLERK decides which Dem she would like to observe  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-12-11 08:47 AM   #211 
                                   - "Ramona" has been on the board since 2004  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-12-11 09:09 AM   #212 
                                      - I don't think she was allowed to fully participate in the canvass  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-12-11 09:33 AM   #215 
                                      - a few things  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-12-11 10:09 AM   #219 
                                      - It isn't WHEN the canvass started that is particularly suspicious to me  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-12-11 10:20 AM   #220 
                                      - OK  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-12-11 11:56 AM   #233 
                                      - That's what I thought - the canvass matters very much to the official results  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-13-11 07:08 PM   #260 
                                      - I find all of the attention this mis-placed vote is getting a little suspicious.  juajen   Apr-12-11 11:12 AM   #227 
                                      - Many agree with you - including myself.  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-12-11 11:18 AM   #228 
                                      - I don't think it is suspicious in itself - How many others are on the board?  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-12-11 09:38 AM   #216 
                                      - WI boards have just three members  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-12-11 09:57 AM   #218 
                                - Yeah, this is strange.  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-12-11 08:30 AM   #207 
                    - She got that phone call on Tuesday.  LisaL   Apr-11-11 05:03 PM   #95 
                    - Such phrases are only set off with commas if they are non-essential to the meaning of the statement,  patrice   Apr-12-11 01:09 AM   #179 
                       - That is unless the contact for the canvass and the designation coincide, which is possible too, I  patrice   Apr-12-11 01:14 AM   #180 
                       - I think the entire sentence/statement could have been better constructed  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-12-11 08:03 AM   #203 
                    - Why would she be designated by the clerk instead  murielm99   Apr-11-11 06:01 PM   #123 
                       - I can't say for sure. I know my CD chair was voted in, and that he said she was "selected"  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 06:03 PM   #124 
  - +100%  mazzarro   Apr-11-11 03:51 PM   #48 
     - .  pintobean   Apr-11-11 03:58 PM   #51 
     - Bingo what;?  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 04:00 PM   #53 
        - Part of me wants you to be screaming, fraud!  tavalon   Apr-12-11 04:58 AM   #190 
  - I wonder where she got her numbers from that she wouldn't  Rex   Apr-11-11 02:36 PM   #15 
  - the only backup of TRUE numbers is the pile of paper ballots cast that day  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-12-11 09:41 AM   #217 
  - This is all part of the investigation and exactly what PeaceNikki has been talking about.  buddysmellgood   Apr-11-11 02:59 PM   #23 
     - That's why I was asking for her.  golddigger   Apr-11-11 03:03 PM   #25 
        - I said my CD chair knows her and that HE said  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 03:08 PM   #28 
           - I apologize. I now see on the heading of the post where you said  golddigger   Apr-11-11 03:22 PM   #33 
              - Du is a lot like the "telephone" game.  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 03:24 PM   #35 
                 - Well  pintobean   Apr-11-11 03:49 PM   #47 
                    - Yes, there were 42.  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 04:04 PM   #56 
                       - Ah, the answer to the ultimate question  pintobean   Apr-11-11 04:36 PM   #75 
  - Special Prosecutor needed on retainer to investigate the GOP  Kingofalldems   Apr-11-11 02:33 PM   #12 
  - Actually, this info needs to be tweeted or sent in some  murielm99   Apr-11-11 02:36 PM   #16 
     - He must be a good one  Enthusiast   Apr-11-11 04:23 PM   #63 
  - So the mistake was not found in the canvass of the vote ....  Botany   Apr-11-11 02:36 PM   #14 
  - Sound like to me they are taking advantage of her ignorance  Rex   Apr-11-11 02:41 PM   #17 
  - Well there goes the cover story by the republicans ....  Botany   Apr-11-11 02:49 PM   #20 
  - The error that was known the day after the voting took place.  Rex   Apr-11-11 03:09 PM   #30 
     - Oh, I am sure there are plenty of Republican minions who could help  tblue37   Apr-11-11 03:24 PM   #34 
     - Well, I am no I.T. expert but tampering w/ the vote totals  Botany   Apr-11-11 03:27 PM   #36 
     - The problem would be to randomize so many changes quickly enough AND  patrice   Apr-12-11 01:38 AM   #185 
        - You could grab any sufficiently large enough block of text, say from a novel, export it into  patrice   Apr-12-11 01:44 AM   #186 
        - It wouldn't be authentic randomization, but it would pretty much look like it. nt  patrice   Apr-12-11 11:04 AM   #225 
        - Or, if you're afraid of tipping-off the computer forensics specialists, do the whole thing on the  patrice   Apr-12-11 11:25 AM   #229 
  - It IS being investigated.  buddysmellgood   Apr-11-11 03:01 PM   #24 
  - There wasn't any mistake. This was a federal crime that was perpetrated  Doctor_J   Apr-12-11 08:34 AM   #209 
  - TILT  Blue Owl   Apr-11-11 02:57 PM   #22 
  - It is past time to indict Kathy Nickolaus for election fraud, electioneering and many vote-related  Time to Barf   Apr-11-11 03:06 PM   #26 
  - I want to know why they sent someone that would not understand  Rex   Apr-11-11 03:14 PM   #32 
     - I would imagine that in the past, the canvases have been  murielm99   Apr-11-11 03:27 PM   #37 
     - The WI Dems are probably in the same situation as everywhere - not enough people  csziggy   Apr-11-11 03:41 PM   #44 
     - Who sent her? The individual.  Enthusiast   Apr-11-11 04:26 PM   #64 
     - I am told Ramona was selected because of her honesty, integrity and familiarity with the election  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 05:06 PM   #99 
        - Ah very true, I missed that point.  Rex   Apr-12-11 07:15 PM   #254 
  - Curiouser and curiouser! Cried Alice ....... But not to worry, there will be no vote fraud as  yellowcanine   Apr-11-11 03:28 PM   #38 
  - lol - Good one!!  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-11-11 04:26 PM   #65 
  - If the votes cannot be verified...  catgirl   Apr-11-11 03:29 PM   #39 
  - We have all ballots on paper.  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 03:29 PM   #40 
     - Where are they right now?  murielm99   Apr-11-11 03:42 PM   #45 
     - I can't answer that. I am not in charge of them.  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 03:59 PM   #52 
        - SOMEBODY from that office owes it to the public to tell us how they are being safe-guarded  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-11-11 04:28 PM   #68 
        - They have been sealed and are in custody. It was announced on Friday I believe.  Tx4obama   Apr-11-11 04:34 PM   #72 
           - oh-that's right -guarded by KATHY NICKOLAUS-the Waukesha County Elections Clerk  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-11-11 04:38 PM   #78 
           - 29 hrs late and a ballot short.  ooglymoogly   Apr-12-11 01:19 PM   #243 
           - Rove has them. He said he'd even count them himself.  joeunderdog   Apr-12-11 09:22 PM   #258 
     - Forget it Nikki, you can't win with this group. They have their hearts  SlimJimmy   Apr-11-11 04:05 PM   #57 
        - It was election fraud.  Enthusiast   Apr-11-11 04:28 PM   #67 
        - In your mind, maybe. (nt)  SlimJimmy   Apr-11-11 06:19 PM   #127 
        - Do your eyes fail to work?  RedCloud   Apr-12-11 11:54 AM   #231 
           - My eyes work just fine. And I know a bunch of nothing when I read it.  SlimJimmy   Apr-12-11 01:54 PM   #247 
        - +11111111111  peace frog   Apr-12-11 01:07 PM   #240 
        - You are 100% correct!  Tx4obama   Apr-11-11 05:04 PM   #97 
           - Reality is reality.  PurityOfEssence   Apr-11-11 05:40 PM   #114 
           - there are lessons to be learned, even then  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-11-11 05:56 PM   #120 
           - That's what some of us here have been saying. But we have been  SlimJimmy   Apr-11-11 06:20 PM   #128 
              - Well, we will have to just keep shouting louder than the CTs :) n/t  Tx4obama   Apr-11-11 06:30 PM   #131 
              - I would be very careful about calling out "CT"  rufus dog   Apr-11-11 07:43 PM   #147 
              - Wrong on many levels. If the facts include outright falsehoods, like  SlimJimmy   Apr-12-11 11:07 AM   #226 
              - indeed  Bluebear   Apr-14-11 03:12 PM   #261 
              - Yep (nt)  SlimJimmy   Apr-11-11 08:51 PM   #162 
              - You are indeed such the martyr...  LanternWaste   Apr-14-11 03:40 PM   #262 
           - I understand. Facts are the only thing that have ever swayed me.  SlimJimmy   Apr-11-11 06:22 PM   #129 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-11-11 07:41 PM   #146 
              - surely not  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-11-11 07:51 PM   #153 
              - Yes, you did yesterday. And I reported you yesterday.  Tx4obama   Apr-11-11 07:56 PM   #156 
  - Go Ramona  marions ghost   Apr-11-11 03:56 PM   #50 
  - Well that certainly clarifies things, considering  LisaL   Apr-11-11 04:03 PM   #55 
  - and they kept her OUT of the office on more than one occasion while they were in there  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-11-11 04:32 PM   #69 
  - They stole two presidential elections  Enthusiast   Apr-11-11 04:06 PM   #59 
  - THAT is the rallying cry.  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-11-11 04:33 PM   #70 
  - The bottom line is that the county was showing 'all zeros' for the city of Brookfield.  Tx4obama   Apr-11-11 04:43 PM   #79 
  - Under the circumstances, perhaps someone should be looking for evidence  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-11-11 04:52 PM   #86 
  - My comment included a simple request for a link regarding Brookfield.  Tx4obama   Apr-11-11 04:56 PM   #89 
     - GOOD! I misunderstood then.  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-11-11 05:00 PM   #93 
  - Maybe she's a smokescreen for other misdeeds.  pauldg0   Apr-12-11 12:20 AM   #174 
  - .  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 04:48 PM   #84 
  - Okay, I've Been Waiting To Find Out What The REAL Plan Of Action Is  ChiciB1   Apr-11-11 05:04 PM   #96 
  - See comment #98 n/t  Tx4obama   Apr-11-11 05:07 PM   #100 
  - UPDATE: 4:58 PM: Kennedy: Waukesha County investigation ongoing, but numbers appear to match up  Tx4obama   Apr-11-11 05:06 PM   #98 
  - So... Screwed Again, I Guess!! This Country Is NO DEMOCRACY... I Can't  ChiciB1   Apr-11-11 05:22 PM   #109 
  - So you think the mistake of giving the city of Brookfield 'all zeros' was right?  Tx4obama   Apr-11-11 05:26 PM   #112 
     - I Suppose I Don't Know WHAT To Think... In The Beginning I HEARD  ChiciB1   Apr-11-11 05:43 PM   #115 
     - Well ....  Tx4obama   Apr-11-11 07:45 PM   #149 
     - Nickolaus is a person who has clerical errors almost every  shraby   Apr-11-11 06:35 PM   #132 
        - But the Brookfield numbers are accurate  Tx4obama   Apr-11-11 07:47 PM   #151 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-11-11 07:43 PM   #148 
  - Sounds like Ms. Human Error knew the "missing votes" would likely put a free  gkhouston   Apr-11-11 05:44 PM   #116 
  - Amazing how the cons came up with just enough votes to keep from having a state wide recount. .  B Calm   Apr-11-11 05:49 PM   #118 
  - There will be a state-wide recount and will cost only $5 per ward. n/t  Tx4obama   Apr-11-11 05:57 PM   #121 
  - That is incorrect. n/t  murielm99   Apr-11-11 06:05 PM   #126 
     - Anything less than 7,482 is subject to free recount.  Tx4obama   Apr-11-11 07:39 PM   #145 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-11-11 07:53 PM   #154 
        - Today's update ---->  Tx4obama   Apr-11-11 08:01 PM   #157 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-11-11 10:55 PM   #171 
        - Prosser's lead today is 7,304  Tx4obama   Apr-11-11 09:01 PM   #164 
  - They can't stop a recount.  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 05:58 PM   #122 
     - To their credit...the repugs have now obfuscated the results deliberately...  hayu_lol   Apr-11-11 07:05 PM   #137 
        - Good thing we have ALL of the ballots on paper!  PeaceNikki   Apr-11-11 07:06 PM   #138 
        - hmmmmmm  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-11-11 07:17 PM   #140 
           - "There could be a brilliant fraud scheme behind this..."  demwing   Apr-11-11 10:18 PM   #169 
              - So your theory is the Democrats were stealing the election but Kathy saved us  Cieran_WI   Apr-12-11 04:21 AM   #187 
              - "Saved us"??? Jesus, the reading comprehension...  demwing   Apr-12-11 04:57 AM   #189 
              - You know, I have to come back to your post , because it just pisses me off  demwing   Apr-12-11 07:20 AM   #198 
              - why couldn't that be proven fraudulent?  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-12-11 05:34 AM   #193 
                 - I dunno, either. Obviously (perhaps to some, I guess not to others) I am PURELY speculating  demwing   Apr-12-11 06:58 AM   #196 
                    - sure, that's fine  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-12-11 09:17 AM   #213 
  - We must not let this one go.  Dawson Leery   Apr-11-11 07:23 PM   #141 
  - But we will. If this had happened in the other direction  Doctor_J   Apr-12-11 08:33 AM   #208 
  - Seems like a nice lady  matt819   Apr-11-11 10:42 PM   #170 
  - 80 is not old. Also, she's an attorney. There's a 103 year old federal judge still on the bench  Tx4obama   Apr-11-11 11:47 PM   #173 
     - I feel that I must speak up  OxQQme   Apr-12-11 12:20 AM   #175 
     - Okay, I stand chastised - a little  matt819   Apr-12-11 11:44 AM   #230 
  - Bravo for her speaking out nt  flamingdem   Apr-12-11 12:24 AM   #176 
  - Why are people relying on the totals adding up when the totals don't contain  patrice   Apr-12-11 12:42 AM   #177 
  - See comment #183 for a link to an updated article with details.  Tx4obama   Apr-12-11 01:29 AM   #184 
  - KR and thanks for the post on this so important subject.  ooglymoogly   Apr-12-11 01:06 AM   #178 
  - Bottom line still is that the totals the City of Brookfield transmitted to the county are correct  Tx4obama   Apr-12-11 01:25 AM   #183 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-12-11 01:15 PM   #242 
  - Wow. Those are rat tracks. nt  Zorra   Apr-12-11 01:19 AM   #182 
  - I dont know where the numbers Kathy was showing me ultimately came from, but they seemed to add up.  eomer   Apr-12-11 06:01 AM   #194 
  - I've seen no evidence that she didn't fully participate in the canvass  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-12-11 06:57 AM   #195 
     - She seems to say she can't vouch for the final result.  eomer   Apr-12-11 07:39 AM   #201 
        - here's what I think  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-12-11 09:30 AM   #214 
           - Here is Kitzinger's statement at the press conference:  eomer   Apr-12-11 12:56 PM   #238 
              - Gee I wonder why she said something entirely different  ooglymoogly   Apr-12-11 01:39 PM   #244 
              - so you infer that now she is recanting the canvass?  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-12-11 03:32 PM   #249 
                 - Most of her statement is consistent with either explanation, yours or mine, but not this part:  eomer   Apr-12-11 04:28 PM   #250 
                    - I think that's only true if you remove it from context  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-12-11 07:11 PM   #253 
                       - There is too much dissonance between the words she used and your explanation.  eomer   Apr-12-11 08:59 PM   #256 
                          - Gestalt difference: I see your interpretation as mostly dissonant  OnTheOtherHand   Apr-12-11 10:01 PM   #259 
  - And per TPM, the current vote totals put Kloppenburg within the 0.5%  Larkspur   Apr-12-11 07:11 AM   #197 
  - kick  Dawson Leery   Apr-12-11 04:46 PM   #251 
  - K&R and Many Thanks !  Overseas   Apr-12-11 07:46 AM   #202 
  - REC. nt  bertman   Apr-12-11 08:43 AM   #210 
  - you think there would be enough for the feds to bust her  reggie the dog   Apr-12-11 10:31 AM   #223 
  - None of this would be an issue if Prosser was not insane.  tcaudilllg   Apr-12-11 10:32 AM   #224 
  - Oops!  blackspade   Apr-12-11 12:37 PM   #236 
  - I don't know.... there's an awful lot of question marks in her statement.  cui bono   Apr-12-11 01:13 PM   #241 
  - This thread exhibits a big problem we have  Doctor_J   Apr-12-11 05:55 PM   #252 
  - There is a cancer growing on the fantastic manipulation of the results of this election.  ooglymoogly   Apr-12-11 08:17 PM   #255 
  - I have heard somewhere that all 14,000 ballots in question  golddigger   Apr-12-11 09:13 PM   #257 
  - Nickolaus blatantly lied "We discovered it yesterday in the process of a canvass"  arrestblankfein   Apr-14-11 03:54 PM   #263 

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