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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 08:03 AM
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27. I know you don't want to hear it, but it still needs to be said,
Stand up for yourself and your beliefs. If you let people intimidate you into being silent, then they've won.

I also live in a very red county in a red state. Yet I still talk politics, argue, persuade, and am actually successful in changing people's minds. I have yet to receive any threat of violence, though that might well be due to my size(six five).

But one thing I do try to do is find commonality with these folks. Many conservatives aren't as dumb or uninformed as you think, and the more you know some of them, the more you will actually be surprised by the fact that the two of you can find areas of agreement.
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  -Many on the left literally do not feel safe to proclaim they are liberals JFN1  Apr-11-11 12:16 AM   #0 
  - K&R.... Time to be heard....  midnight   Apr-11-11 12:20 AM   #1 
  - This is so typical of the open aggression of the right-wingers. There is  Cal33   Apr-11-11 08:22 AM   #28 
  - THAT'S WHY I CARRY A GUN! I dare them to intimidate me.  AllTooEasy   Apr-11-11 05:00 PM   #52 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-11-11 06:27 PM   #62 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-11-11 08:46 PM   #74 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-11-11 11:04 PM   #84 
  - I wish I had some ideas on how to respond to your situation.  CaliforniaPeggy   Apr-11-11 12:22 AM   #2 
  - You need to look at the Arab Spring.  napoleon_in_rags   Apr-11-11 12:36 AM   #3 
  - It isn't about courage, per se.  JFN1   Apr-11-11 12:57 AM   #4 
  - It's about having your tires slashed?  aquart   Apr-11-11 01:07 AM   #5 
  - Yes, for me, I can deal, willingly. But the liberal mom down the street?  JFN1   Apr-11-11 01:16 AM   #7 
     - Be careful as to what your 'better plan' is.  napoleon_in_rags   Apr-11-11 01:41 AM   #9 
        - I live my values and always seem to have a soapbox handy  JFN1   Apr-11-11 02:13 AM   #11 
           - I hear you. Just remember that noise machine has two functions:  napoleon_in_rags   Apr-12-11 10:53 PM   #108 
  - "Brave doesn't exactly translate into effective"  napoleon_in_rags   Apr-11-11 01:15 AM   #6 
  - Great response.  MedicalAdmin   Apr-11-11 05:17 PM   #55 
  - Just like Libya, it's not a civil war  MedleyMisty   Apr-11-11 11:22 PM   #86 
  - I'll never put political bumper stickers on my car because of this very reason.  Initech   Apr-11-11 01:18 AM   #8 
  - Self-deleted by member  era veteran   Apr-11-11 02:32 AM   #13 
  - I have never seen this before  DrDan   Apr-11-11 06:22 AM   #23 
  - really  BobbyBoring   Apr-11-11 03:24 PM   #41 
  - Thanks for pointing this out  Cirque du So-What   Apr-11-11 04:43 AM   #18 
     - Conservative/fundie insanity knows no boundaries.  Initech   Apr-11-11 11:15 AM   #31 
  - this sounds like paranoia to me  hfojvt   Apr-11-11 01:55 AM   #10 
  - Your profile doesn't specify where "these parts" are. I always have trouble relating to posts like  cherokeeprogressive   Apr-11-11 02:23 AM   #12 
  - Illinois. Mile after magnificent mile. And all that.  JFN1   Apr-11-11 02:53 AM   #15 
     - Your post could have been written by me..and ,yes-I have had my tires slashed in Texas  w8liftinglady   Apr-11-11 05:19 AM   #20 
     - I live in Oklahoma...  a la izquierda   Apr-11-11 06:33 AM   #24 
        - I try never to argue with CONs . . . it's like teaching a pig to sing.  mistertrickster   Apr-11-11 03:09 PM   #39 
           - More like teaching a polar bear to play the violin.  RagAss   Apr-11-11 05:15 PM   #54 
           - I like the cut of your jib.  MedicalAdmin   Apr-11-11 05:47 PM   #57 
              - We should make a list. Start one in the General Discussion forum. nt  mistertrickster   Apr-11-11 05:57 PM   #58 
                 - Great idea. DO you want to post it?  MedicalAdmin   Apr-11-11 06:59 PM   #67 
                    - Okay . . . will do soon. nt  mistertrickster   Apr-12-11 12:03 PM   #100 
  - I feel for ya. I've spent a lot of time in conservative places. I moved away though.  franzia99   Apr-11-11 02:41 AM   #14 
  - "I ought to go upright and vital, and speak the rude truth in all ways."  themadstork   Apr-11-11 03:38 AM   #16 
  - Yeah, like it sometimes seems to declare it here on DU...  Flubadubya   Apr-11-11 03:54 AM   #17 
  - As a liberal atheist living in a deep red bible belt region, I've never had a problem  FLPanhandle   Apr-11-11 05:09 AM   #19 
  - I have no clue where it is you live...If you mentioned it...  SkyDaddy7   Apr-11-11 05:41 AM   #21 
  - Better to die on your feet than to live on your knees. n/t  Scuba   Apr-11-11 06:01 AM   #22 
  - OWN it and be PROUD of it.  stillwaiting   Apr-11-11 07:00 AM   #25 
  - Nice classism there  MedleyMisty   Apr-11-11 11:39 PM   #87 
     - I have no idea how you took my statements as being classist.  stillwaiting   Apr-12-11 06:11 AM   #93 
  - BULL! I do and this is the Houston suburbs. There are more of us than we think there are.  elehhhhna   Apr-11-11 07:57 AM   #26 
  - I know you don't want to hear it, but it still needs to be said,  MadHound   Apr-11-11 08:03 AM   #27 
  - I wrote an article commemorating MLK Day and diversity on campus  Generic Other   Apr-11-11 08:55 AM   #29 
  - Mongrel is another word for "hybrid." Hybrids are stronger. nt  mistertrickster   Apr-11-11 03:12 PM   #40 
  - Nice of you to say so...  Generic Other   Apr-12-11 12:43 AM   #89 
     - We shall overcome . . . nt.  mistertrickster   Apr-12-11 11:54 AM   #97 
  - Did you call the authorities?  sakabatou   Apr-12-11 02:17 AM   #92 
     - yes  Generic Other   Apr-12-11 05:03 PM   #107 
  - I had to hold my tongue at family gatherings until my parents passed...  kickysnana   Apr-11-11 09:28 AM   #30 
  - Do we live in the same town?!?  Papagoose   Apr-11-11 12:44 PM   #32 
  - We're being told to shut up and enjoy the shit sammich ...  Myrina   Apr-11-11 12:49 PM   #33 
  - I AM LIBERAL! there, I said it. K&R  Snoutport   Apr-11-11 12:50 PM   #34 
  - Hold your head up.  democrank   Apr-11-11 12:54 PM   #35 
  - it is wiser to not say  mm44sas   Apr-11-11 02:11 PM   #36 
  - I'm sorry, but I just can't go along with that.........  socialist_n_TN   Apr-11-11 03:24 PM   #42 
     - I agree - stand up.  MedicalAdmin   Apr-11-11 05:59 PM   #59 
  - If the answer isn't "stand up", then I guess the only option is to flee.  closeupready   Apr-11-11 02:14 PM   #37 
  - I just skip the wimpy "liberal" and call myself an activist leftist . . . nt  mistertrickster   Apr-11-11 03:03 PM   #38 
  - Yep. That's one reason I actually CALL myself a ..........  socialist_n_TN   Apr-11-11 03:26 PM   #43 
  - What part of Fucked-Up-Istan do you live in?  truebrit71   Apr-11-11 03:27 PM   #44 
  - I get it everyday...  humbled_opinion   Apr-11-11 03:38 PM   #45 
  - My response to that one is...  MedicalAdmin   Apr-11-11 06:02 PM   #60 
  - Umm  MedleyMisty   Apr-11-11 11:16 PM   #85 
     - LOL....  humbled_opinion   Apr-12-11 03:57 PM   #106 
  - I tell people liberals are not liberal enough for me. I am a socialist. nt  tblue37   Apr-11-11 03:49 PM   #46 
  - Agree. See my post #46..........  socialist_n_TN   Apr-11-11 03:51 PM   #47 
  - I think liberals and progressives  Sweet Little Me   Apr-11-11 03:55 PM   #48 
  - We don't really have to convince them. They are .........  socialist_n_TN   Apr-11-11 08:53 PM   #75 
  - I once stood on a busy street corner in San Diego in 2004  WHEN CRABS ROAR   Apr-11-11 10:09 PM   #83 
  - I don't know what to tell you..........  socialist_n_TN   Apr-11-11 04:08 PM   #49 
  - I think it's that way depending on where you live  formernaderite   Apr-11-11 04:09 PM   #50 
  - liberals on DU get attacked  HankyDubs   Apr-11-11 04:39 PM   #51 
  - really? where?  gejohnston   Apr-13-11 08:22 AM   #109 
  - It's called fascism and must be resisted at all times and in all ways lest it triumph  on point   Apr-11-11 05:12 PM   #53 
  - I have the same problem.  Manifestor_of_Light   Apr-11-11 05:33 PM   #56 
  - I'm a Texas Liberal, too,  kentauros   Apr-11-11 06:26 PM   #61 
     - I too live in the blue paradise city of Houston.....  AnneD   Apr-12-11 01:26 PM   #103 
        - I can believe we're the 4th-largest quite easily.  kentauros   Apr-12-11 03:24 PM   #105 
           - Yes Houston...  AnneD   Apr-13-11 12:26 PM   #112 
              - Oh, that looks great!  kentauros   Apr-13-11 12:41 PM   #113 
                 - They have published .....  AnneD   Apr-13-11 01:19 PM   #114 
                 - Re No Zoning....  AnneD   Apr-13-11 04:04 PM   #115 
                    - That's true  kentauros   Apr-13-11 04:58 PM   #116 
  - I live in a conservative area (orange county) and have no problem telling people I am liberal.  krabigirl   Apr-11-11 06:32 PM   #63 
  - Fortunately, I Live in a Blue State  fascisthunter   Apr-11-11 06:35 PM   #64 
  - I live in a very small town  sulphurdunn   Apr-11-11 06:44 PM   #65 
  - a million kicks! We have no public Voice.  BlancheSplanchnik   Apr-11-11 06:50 PM   #66 
  - Its Here Too  SweepPicker   Apr-11-11 07:06 PM   #68 
     - I have a bunch of various progressive bumperstickers, and one day in the Fall  BlancheSplanchnik   Apr-11-11 07:44 PM   #70 
  - Idaho here. I've had Obama and anti-Palin bumper stickers,  IDemo   Apr-11-11 07:16 PM   #69 
  - They must have their bubble bust and know that real life people contest their idiocy.  TheKentuckian   Apr-11-11 07:47 PM   #71 
  - I live in Curry County on the Southern Oregon Coast in a town  WHEN CRABS ROAR   Apr-11-11 08:40 PM   #72 
  - In some places, liberals are surrounded. In 2008 our garage windows were broken out  JFN1   Apr-11-11 08:44 PM   #73 
  - Those "brown shirts" are the reason that speaking out has  WHEN CRABS ROAR   Apr-11-11 09:43 PM   #78 
  - I disagree...  bongo_x   Apr-11-11 09:40 PM   #76 
  - REC and.....kick!  Zax2me   Apr-11-11 09:43 PM   #77 
  - no no no! don't stand up. or stand up very slowly  livefreest   Apr-11-11 09:48 PM   #79 
  - I don't give a damn what they think.  xmas74   Apr-11-11 10:02 PM   #80 
  - There are pockets of kooks everywhere. Including in Connecticut.  Dawson Leery   Apr-11-11 10:02 PM   #81 
  - The left has no voice because they live on defense.  flvegan   Apr-11-11 10:03 PM   #82 
  - speaking of bumper stickers  Name Unpronounceable   Apr-12-11 12:10 AM   #88 
  - just a minor point - "Liberal" does not necessarily equal "Left".  inna   Apr-12-11 01:02 AM   #90 
  - Indeed.  JFN1   Apr-12-11 01:32 AM   #91 
  - This leftist hippie is no pacifist.  hobbit709   Apr-12-11 06:20 AM   #94 
  - The working class Republicans are only digging their own economic grave.  olegramps   Apr-12-11 08:30 AM   #95 
  - Ronald Reagan was also an antedote teller  L. Coyote   Apr-12-11 09:09 AM   #96 
  - three words for these nitwits ''Social Security'' and ''Medicare''  yurbud   Apr-12-11 11:57 AM   #98 
  - Repukes are 100% evil  upi402   Apr-12-11 12:01 PM   #99 
     - the GOP would say Thom is a commie because he lived in Germany  yurbud   Apr-12-11 12:11 PM   #102 
  - I wore an Obama t-shirt during the '08 campaign.  Iggo   Apr-12-11 12:06 PM   #101 
  - I worry I will be denied employment as a deep background  InkAddict   Apr-12-11 02:32 PM   #104 
  - Usually bullies back off when you kick their ass.  lonestarnot   Apr-13-11 08:29 AM   #110 
     - True fact.  Iggo   Apr-13-11 09:43 AM   #111 

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