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  -Let's make it real, who you gonna vote for? It is either President Obama akbacchus_BC  Apr-10-11 09:25 PM   #0 
  - Fail... Unreal.  MNBrewer   Apr-10-11 09:26 PM   #1 
  - who besides Obama can win for the Dems in 2012?  rdking647   Apr-10-11 11:24 PM   #37 
     - Vote in the primaries for someone that espouses what we want... If they lose Obama in the GE...  cascadiance   Apr-11-11 01:18 AM   #68 
     - Go ahead and write someone in if that will make you feel better.  pnwmom   Apr-11-11 03:04 AM   #100 
     - And unfortunately, that's why we continue to be taken for granted...  cascadiance   Apr-11-11 03:39 AM   #104 
        - Kucinich didn't have a prayer of winning, with or without Edwards.  pnwmom   Apr-11-11 04:03 AM   #105 
           - I thought so too. But knowing the character of the other Dems in the race...  cascadiance   Apr-11-11 11:17 AM   #133 
              - So would I. Thank goodness Edwards didn't go farther than  pnwmom   Apr-11-11 12:47 PM   #142 
     - At the least we need to move in democrats from outside the party ....  defendandprotect   Apr-11-11 11:50 AM   #141 
     - A lazy response...  brooklynite   Apr-11-11 03:51 PM   #145 
        - I'm not saying we should work to help encourage the right one to enter a primary first...  cascadiance   Apr-11-11 06:46 PM   #148 
     - Sen. Bernie Sanders -- for one -- and we need TWO anti-war candidates ....  defendandprotect   Apr-11-11 02:14 AM   #99 
     - A pipedream, since he's already made it clear he's not interested. n/t  pnwmom   Apr-11-11 03:09 AM   #102 
     - We have tons of democrats who can run on the Dem ticket -- who aren't corporatists!!  defendandprotect   Apr-11-11 11:44 AM   #136 
        - And none of them wants to run, or has the organization.  pnwmom   Apr-11-11 12:50 PM   #143 
           - Have we asked them all?  defendandprotect   Apr-11-11 04:41 PM   #146 
     - how many states do you really thing sanders could win?  rdking647   Apr-11-11 03:46 PM   #144 
        - And you think voting for Obama ...  defendandprotect   Apr-11-11 04:42 PM   #147 
     - Real vs. hypothetical  MNBrewer   Apr-11-11 10:01 AM   #130 
  - false dichotomy  Cronus Protagonist   Apr-10-11 09:26 PM   #2 
  - claiming that it is not a dichotomy is what is false.  MH1   Apr-10-11 09:29 PM   #7 
     - You are blinkered then  Cronus Protagonist   Apr-10-11 10:44 PM   #32 
        - when did a write in win a major presidential election  rdking647   Apr-10-11 11:25 PM   #40 
  - Anyone here not voting for Obama is helping the GOP destroy this country. n/t  Logical   Apr-10-11 09:26 PM   #3 
  - Agree with you. Finally convinced my dauthers to not vote Green,  akbacchus_BC   Apr-10-11 09:28 PM   #4 
  - I see her point, but basically the vote is wasted. Which is bad. n-t  Logical   Apr-10-11 09:40 PM   #13 
     - I know, am trying to get them to vote Liberal for Federal, as much  akbacchus_BC   Apr-11-11 11:01 PM   #159 
  - But he's doing a pretty good job himself  Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel   Apr-10-11 09:29 PM   #5 
  - I am not 100% happy either. But he is better than any GOP fool. n-t  Logical   Apr-10-11 09:39 PM   #11 
  - He's not attacking unions and he pushed through health insurance.  pnwmom   Apr-11-11 03:07 AM   #101 
     - On the other hand...  warren pease   Apr-11-11 06:39 AM   #107 
  - Bullshit.  Paradoxical   Apr-10-11 09:42 PM   #16 
  - Wow, what intelligence that took. I am awed! n-t  Logical   Apr-10-11 09:47 PM   #24 
  - What you said was so absurd that it necessitates no response.  Paradoxical   Apr-10-11 09:53 PM   #28 
     - Again, awed! Nt  Logical   Apr-10-11 11:25 PM   #39 
     - Clearly you chose your screen-name as some sort of ironic symbol.  Paradoxical   Apr-11-11 12:45 AM   #50 
        - Your snarky tone and no facts prove you are just angry with no logic. n-t  Logical   Apr-11-11 06:42 AM   #108 
           - Welcome to DU.  JTFrog   Apr-11-11 06:45 AM   #109 
              - You disagree voting against Obama does not help the GOP? Nt  Logical   Apr-11-11 07:32 AM   #118 
                 - No.  JTFrog   Apr-11-11 07:40 AM   #122 
                    - Ok, thanks! I appreciate your response! nt  Logical   Apr-11-11 07:49 AM   #123 
     - While that could certainly be said about your post, the post you responded to is spot on. n/t  BzaDem   Apr-10-11 11:26 PM   #41 
        - Spot on to the few who believe in such childish nonsense.  Paradoxical   Apr-11-11 12:46 AM   #51 
           - Fortunately, the number of people who vote for third parties is so negligable  BzaDem   Apr-11-11 12:53 AM   #53 
              - "Fortunately"? So you're saying that you enjoy our corrupt two party system?  Paradoxical   Apr-11-11 12:59 AM   #56 
                 - Enjoying recognition of reality is not the same as enjoying the substance of that reality.  BzaDem   Apr-11-11 01:03 AM   #57 
                    - You just spent an entire post blaming the 2000 election on third party voting.  Paradoxical   Apr-11-11 01:06 AM   #59 
                       - Yes, I did, because it is entirely true.  BzaDem   Apr-11-11 01:09 AM   #62 
                          - The two party system exists because individuals allow it to exist.  Paradoxical   Apr-11-11 01:13 AM   #64 
                             - Actually, the two party system exists WHETHER OR NOT you allow it to exist  BzaDem   Apr-11-11 01:18 AM   #67 
                                - I said "human intervention". You said no that's false, it's "PAST human intervention".  Paradoxical   Apr-11-11 01:29 AM   #75 
                                   - No, you said the specific intervention of voting in a current election.  BzaDem   Apr-11-11 01:31 AM   #76 
                                      - " in a regularly scheduled election is somehow enabling the system"  Paradoxical   Apr-11-11 01:37 AM   #79 
                                         - "who's validation comes in the continuation of it's function"  BzaDem   Apr-11-11 01:39 AM   #81 
                                            - "You think that a vote within a system does something to enable or disable the system"  Paradoxical   Apr-11-11 01:43 AM   #84 
                                               - Yes actually. Third party voting did NOTHING to disable the system. It did EVERYTHING to elect the  BzaDem   Apr-11-11 01:44 AM   #85 
                                               - Pardon me for asking, but how old are you?  Paradoxical   Apr-11-11 01:46 AM   #86 
                                               - Not old enough to have voted to ratify the Constitution in 1789. Beyond that  BzaDem   Apr-11-11 01:47 AM   #87 
                                               - You're afraid to disclose your age on a message board?  Paradoxical   Apr-11-11 01:56 AM   #89 
                                               - Same reason most people don't disclose their age. n/t  BzaDem   Apr-11-11 01:57 AM   #90 
                                               - That's not an answer. I'm wondering why you don't want to disclose your age.  Paradoxical   Apr-11-11 01:58 AM   #91 
                                               - Here  BzaDem   Apr-11-11 01:59 AM   #92 
                                               - Again, not an answer. I already know you want it private. I want to know why.  Paradoxical   Apr-11-11 02:00 AM   #93 
                                               - Because I feel like it?  BzaDem   Apr-11-11 02:01 AM   #94 
                                               - Because your age and length of political participation likely weighs heavily on your "opinion".  Paradoxical   Apr-11-11 02:02 AM   #95 
                                               - Surely though if there was something wrong with my argument or "worldview"  BzaDem   Apr-11-11 02:06 AM   #96 
                                               - My critique of your argument is done. That's been done for a while.  Paradoxical   Apr-11-11 02:07 AM   #97 
  - BS is thy name, STFU!  akbacchus_BC   Apr-11-11 11:09 PM   #162 
  - And so is any progressive . . .  markpkessinger   Apr-10-11 11:12 PM   #33 
  - But that assumes that losing an election cycle or two will ACTUALLY help you achieve your goals.  BzaDem   Apr-10-11 11:27 PM   #42 
     - The reality is we won't know until we try . . .  markpkessinger   Apr-10-11 11:29 PM   #46 
        - Are you kidding me? They tried exactly your strategy in 2000. Didn't work out very well now did it?  BzaDem   Apr-11-11 12:48 AM   #52 
           - You've swallowed a bunch of nonsense. The Supreme Court and corruption cost us the 2000 election.  Paradoxical   Apr-11-11 12:57 AM   #55 
              - ... and they would not have been able to, had the strategy of the above poster not been used.  BzaDem   Apr-11-11 01:04 AM   #58 
                 - Why don't you nail down a coherent argument and then get back to me.  Paradoxical   Apr-11-11 01:08 AM   #61 
                    - If you don't understand my argument, that is your problem (not mine). It is not complicated. n/t  BzaDem   Apr-11-11 01:10 AM   #63 
                       - Don't flatter yourself. You're argument is convoluted because it's contradictory.  Paradoxical   Apr-11-11 01:14 AM   #66 
                          - Says the person who can't name a single contradiction. n/t  BzaDem   Apr-11-11 01:19 AM   #69 
                             - How about the one where you said a negligible amount of people vote third party.  Paradoxical   Apr-11-11 01:20 AM   #70 
                                - That isn't a contradiction at all. An election can EASILY hinge on a negligable margin.  BzaDem   Apr-11-11 01:22 AM   #71 
                                   - It is actually a massive contradiction. Unless you are willing to redefine negligible.  Paradoxical   Apr-11-11 01:25 AM   #73 
                                      - Let's put it this way -- such a small group has negligable influence in pushing the country to the  BzaDem   Apr-11-11 01:28 AM   #74 
                                         - So they have negligible influence on politics other than costing us entire elections.  Paradoxical   Apr-11-11 01:33 AM   #77 
                                            - They have negligible influence in pushing the country to the left, but significant influence in  BzaDem   Apr-11-11 01:34 AM   #78 
                                               - You are grasping at some mighty fine straws.  Paradoxical   Apr-11-11 01:39 AM   #80 
                                                  - That is my argument (regardless of how hard you try not to understand it out of convenience).  BzaDem   Apr-11-11 01:41 AM   #82 
  - And anyone voting for Obama is helping the Corporadems destroy this country.  RaleighNCDUer   Apr-10-11 11:28 PM   #44 
  - The difference is that your proposition is false, whereas the proposition you responded to is true.  BzaDem   Apr-11-11 12:55 AM   #54 
     - The one does not negate the other.  RaleighNCDUer   Apr-11-11 01:07 AM   #60 
        - But that isn't what you said -- you said voting for Obama somehow hurts the country.  BzaDem   Apr-11-11 01:13 AM   #65 
           - You claim there are but two alternatives - Obama and Not Obama.  RaleighNCDUer   Apr-11-11 11:38 AM   #135 
  - The banksters are destroying this country and TARP proves that they own both parties. nt  phasma ex machina   Apr-10-11 11:37 PM   #47 
  - It is Obama destroying the nation with more oil drilling and more nukes for America!!  defendandprotect   Apr-11-11 11:47 AM   #138 
  - I will vote for Obama  Terra Alta   Apr-10-11 09:29 PM   #6 
  - Lesser of two evils they say! But we have no choice now! Vote for Obama  akbacchus_BC   Apr-10-11 09:32 PM   #8 
  - Love your sig!  freshwest   Apr-10-11 09:45 PM   #21 
  - I will vote for him...but not enthusiastically...  jab105   Apr-10-11 09:33 PM   #9 
  - I understand, even if you do not donate, vote for him. I am sure that he  akbacchus_BC   Apr-10-11 09:37 PM   #10 
  - He is about to do something Presidential.  Skink   Apr-10-11 09:39 PM   #12 
  - How many of these are you guys gonna post per day now? Thx  uponit7771   Apr-10-11 09:40 PM   #14 
  - No shit. It's gonna be a long election season.  Union Scribe   Apr-11-11 01:42 AM   #83 
  - It seems to be far fewer than the "Obama bad" OPs.  JoePhilly   Apr-11-11 07:11 AM   #115 
  - Every time a stupid thread like this comes up, I feel less motivated to vote for Obama.  Paradoxical   Apr-10-11 09:41 PM   #15 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Apr-10-11 09:44 PM   #18 
  - Who gives a shit about how you feel not voting for President Obama,  akbacchus_BC   Apr-11-11 10:37 PM   #154 
  - Who cares, why did you need to kick this thread?  akbacchus_BC   Apr-11-11 11:08 PM   #161 
  - silly  H2O Man   Apr-10-11 09:43 PM   #17 
  - Silly, why? n/t  akbacchus_BC   Apr-11-11 10:29 PM   #152 
  - I'll be sure to vote for the best candidate...  walldude   Apr-10-11 09:44 PM   #19 
  - This is not worthy of a response ...  Joyce78   Apr-10-11 09:45 PM   #20 
  - You make it sound.  sendero   Apr-10-11 09:45 PM   #22 
  - I always like to keep my options open.  bigwillq   Apr-10-11 09:47 PM   #23 
  - I want to vote for Elizabeth May  Autumn   Apr-10-11 09:49 PM   #25 
  - Republican, Fundamentalpatient, Wasted Vote.  HughBeaumont   Apr-10-11 09:50 PM   #26 
  - But the portions are huge!  kenny blankenship   Apr-10-11 11:22 PM   #36 
     - Huge and stupid. The way shit's DONE in Murka!  HughBeaumont   Apr-11-11 07:31 AM   #117 
  - I'm part of a miniscule fringe element. How I choose to vote (IF I choose to vote) does not matter.  Edweird   Apr-10-11 09:50 PM   #27 
  - Don't care about any GOP candidate. I never give them any encouragement...  freshwest   Apr-10-11 10:00 PM   #29 
  - No. I can vote for the expansion of war or not vote for the expansion of war.  rug   Apr-10-11 10:05 PM   #30 
  - as a Dem for 40+ yrs  mitchtv   Apr-10-11 10:06 PM   #31 
  - In the words of the late Ted Kenney. . .  markpkessinger   Apr-10-11 11:16 PM   #34 
  - +a brazillion!  kath   Apr-10-11 11:41 PM   #49 
  - Truer words were never spoken  Raine   Apr-11-11 04:26 AM   #106 
  - I'll Vote For The Democrat Who Gets The Nomination...Whoever It Is  Johnny Harpo   Apr-10-11 11:19 PM   #35 
  - Seriously consider writing in Jesse Jackson.  TheKentuckian   Apr-10-11 11:25 PM   #38 
  - why????  rdking647   Apr-10-11 11:27 PM   #43 
     - Obama has turned out to be what I expected from Romney so I'll write in a Democrat  TheKentuckian   Apr-11-11 10:22 AM   #131 
  - I doubt it will be Romney on the Republican side. But if it is,  mmonk   Apr-10-11 11:29 PM   #45 
  - This belongs in GDP.  tekisui   Apr-10-11 11:39 PM   #48 
  - Why?  Bobbie Jo   Apr-11-11 08:47 AM   #126 
  - Why can't they just put corporations on the ballots and stop with this charade? nt  Modern_Matthew   Apr-11-11 01:24 AM   #72 
  - I'm planning to vote for Obama  franzia99   Apr-11-11 01:52 AM   #88 
  - False, fear-based non-choices if you're for the status quo -- if you want change ...  defendandprotect   Apr-11-11 02:13 AM   #98 
  - With Obama having stolen Mitt-care... and Obama cutting spending, what's the difference again?  LooseWilly   Apr-11-11 03:36 AM   #103 
  - Donald Trump  TurningPointTime   Apr-11-11 06:46 AM   #110 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-11-11 06:47 AM   #111 
  - Me!  rpannier   Apr-11-11 06:48 AM   #112 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-11-11 06:52 AM   #113 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-11-11 07:06 AM   #114 
  - I have no problem  creon   Apr-11-11 07:19 AM   #116 
  - Let's make it real, this sort of argument is a lousy way to get votes.  gkhouston   Apr-11-11 07:35 AM   #119 
  - I have not seen one post countering you yet! n-t  Logical   Apr-11-11 07:37 AM   #120 
  - Thanks for framing that so narrowly, I don't even have to think now!  StarburstClock   Apr-11-11 07:39 AM   #121 
  - No worries....  Bobbie Jo   Apr-11-11 09:26 AM   #127 
  - my electoral vote to obama..  mdmc   Apr-11-11 07:55 AM   #124 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-11-11 07:59 AM   #125 
  - Probably the best poop flinging post I have read outside the  Javaman   Apr-11-11 09:41 AM   #128 
  - When I get my ballot,  LWolf   Apr-11-11 09:45 AM   #129 
  - Unrec ...epic fail.  L0oniX   Apr-11-11 10:25 AM   #132 
  - Hey, don't rub it in our faces, OK? We're less fucked with Obama than with a republican.  Zorra   Apr-11-11 11:22 AM   #134 
  - Really, with Obama cutting social security you think we're "less fucked" with a republican?  TBF   Apr-11-11 11:49 AM   #140 
     - Do you think any Republican's replacement for Justice Kennedy WONT strike down future progressive  BzaDem   Apr-11-11 06:55 PM   #149 
        - I'm not convinced that Obama's replacement for Justice Kennedy  TBF   Apr-11-11 07:25 PM   #150 
           - Really? Do you think Justice Kagan and Justice Sotomayor would do so in the future, even though  BzaDem   Apr-11-11 09:18 PM   #151 
              - I guess it depends upon perspective -  TBF   Apr-12-11 02:53 PM   #164 
  - Unrec for lack of choice -  TBF   Apr-11-11 11:47 AM   #137 
  - Then you all have to elect someone who will be on your side, these  akbacchus_BC   Apr-11-11 10:32 PM   #153 
  - Obama will NOT get my vote unless Palin is the nominee.  Chris_Texas   Apr-11-11 11:48 AM   #139 
  - That is so not true. President Obama inherited a recession and he  akbacchus_BC   Apr-11-11 10:42 PM   #156 
  - Guess he should be primaried, whom do you have in sight?  akbacchus_BC   Apr-11-11 10:56 PM   #158 
  - After 8 years of Bush and blind republican obstructionism for the past 2 years  killbotfactory   Apr-11-11 10:38 PM   #155 
     - I understand, seems so surreal that the world was with Obama, he  akbacchus_BC   Apr-11-11 10:48 PM   #157 
     - Hey, am not a troll!  akbacchus_BC   Apr-11-11 11:04 PM   #160 
        - Mods, please lock this. Thanks!  akbacchus_BC   Apr-11-11 11:10 PM   #163 

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