Reply #53: always giving ground, never standing it even if you lose. I'm used

[roguevalley]

to that kind of president. There is such a thing as cultivating your base and not having staff kick them in the teeth. If Obama wasn't behind it he would have come out and apologized and kicked the offenders to the curb. He never did. Not standing up to the idiots is his problem alone and that is why I don't find him much anymore. I loved him and on some level I still do but I don't respect or trust him at all.