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tcaudilllg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 09:14 AM
Response to Reply #23
173. That's just a crutch for your inaction in the primaries.
You have no excuse for not voting in the general election when only an effective argument is needed to persuade people to your side.
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  -I don't think I can call myself a Democrat any longer EvolveOrConvolve  Apr-10-11 11:02 AM   #0 
  - Don't let them label you.  Zax2me   Apr-10-11 11:03 AM   #1 
  - I thought long and hard about your response  EvolveOrConvolve   Apr-10-11 07:51 PM   #74 
  - Welcome to the club comrade.........  socialist_n_TN   Apr-10-11 09:18 PM   #108 
  - The water is fine, come on in. :)  Javaman   Apr-11-11 07:40 AM   #166 
  - Welcome aboard  tavalon   Apr-11-11 10:05 AM   #187 
  - BINGO!  Xenotime   Apr-11-11 11:22 AM   #201 
  - SocialistUnderground or SU?  Xenotime   Apr-11-11 12:53 PM   #217 
  - True  franzia99   Apr-11-11 01:57 AM   #141 
  - Well the only recourse you have if you don't like the people who are running  Drale   Apr-10-11 11:04 AM   #2 
  - There's always more than just one course of action for recourse.  Skip_In_Boulder   Apr-10-11 11:37 AM   #26 
  - it seems this is the course  humanityisfree   Apr-11-11 05:20 AM   #151 
  - You've said a mouthful there. I couldn't agree more. n/t  Search4Justice   Apr-11-11 06:30 AM   #155 
  - +1  LWolf   Apr-11-11 09:41 AM   #179 
  - Good advice. I'm sure any one of us would benefit from the Citizen's United SCOTUS decision...  Thunderstruck   Apr-10-11 11:44 AM   #29 
  - BINGO!  fredamae   Apr-10-11 12:00 PM   #33 
  - Don't think that I haven't pondered that idea  EvolveOrConvolve   Apr-10-11 07:36 PM   #63 
  - Its not the party thats controlled but the people  Drale   Apr-10-11 08:24 PM   #85 
     - And those controlled people vote  EvolveOrConvolve   Apr-10-11 08:30 PM   #91 
        - back door?  oldhippydude   Apr-11-11 03:52 AM   #147 
  - They might let a Socialist...  MattSh   Apr-11-11 01:06 AM   #138 
  - Good thing Bernie Sanders snuck in, eh?  tavalon   Apr-11-11 10:07 AM   #188 
     - Bernie has been in a long time. Times have changed. Today if  jwirr   Apr-11-11 11:18 AM   #198 
  - Do you have a few million dollars to spare?  OmmmSweetOmmm   Apr-11-11 11:35 AM   #206 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-10-11 11:07 AM   #3 
  - you should read the rules again. here -- i'll help you  xchrom   Apr-10-11 11:08 AM   #4 
  - so you're not a Democrat either, huh? not surprising.  ReturnoftheDjedi   Apr-10-11 11:13 AM   #9 
  - I'm a Marxist-Lennonist.  Fuddnik   Apr-10-11 11:41 AM   #28 
  - LOL, very good!  Jefferson23   Apr-10-11 07:32 PM   #57 
  - That's priceless,  JackInGreen   Apr-11-11 12:47 AM   #136 
  - Too late. It was already stolen  DFW   Apr-11-11 06:41 AM   #156 
     - Yep, that's where I got it. Showing my age.  Fuddnik   Apr-11-11 04:36 PM   #221 
        - Hey, I remember it from when it first came out  DFW   Apr-11-11 04:44 PM   #223 
  - ROTFL  liberation   Apr-11-11 01:57 AM   #142 
  - LOL finally we get to the real truth about DU.  jwirr   Apr-11-11 11:21 AM   #200 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-10-11 10:15 PM   #126 
  - "Pretty cheeky"? DUers participate as equals.  pnwmom   Apr-11-11 01:26 AM   #139 
  - You are the label police. That is pretty funny.  ZombieHorde   Apr-11-11 02:40 AM   #144 
  - modern socialists aren't progressive  BOG PERSON   Apr-10-11 05:19 PM   #47 
     - Unless you're one of those "modern socialists" and this is your personal philosophy,  tavalon   Apr-10-11 07:46 PM   #71 
     - Projection being what it is...  liberation   Apr-11-11 02:00 AM   #143 
  - A lot of socialists take refuge in the Democratic Party.  Jackpine Radical   Apr-10-11 11:11 AM   #6 
  - "so each of us pretty much has to work out our own catechism"  white_wolf   Apr-10-11 11:26 AM   #20 
  - re: catechism  BOG PERSON   Apr-10-11 05:28 PM   #48 
  - They made a very interesting start.  Jackpine Radical   Apr-10-11 06:18 PM   #52 
  - i don't know what anybody gains  BOG PERSON   Apr-10-11 07:18 PM   #53 
  - I didn't' say they figured everything out and for the record  white_wolf   Apr-10-11 08:40 PM   #99 
  - Ain't that the truth.........  socialist_n_TN   Apr-10-11 09:22 PM   #109 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-10-11 11:12 AM   #8 
  - I joked about creating an Herbal Tea Party.  originalpckelly   Apr-10-11 11:13 AM   #10 
     - yup  marsis   Apr-10-11 11:18 AM   #14 
     - We could call ourselves the Knights of Chamomile.  Jackpine Radical   Apr-10-11 11:36 AM   #25 
        - hahaha that's an excellent suggestion  Voice for Peace   Apr-11-11 10:05 AM   #186 
        - The thimble - definitely a symbol of work - associated with women  jwirr   Apr-11-11 11:30 AM   #203 
  - Do you include Catholics, Vegetarians, and Musicians.in that edict?  Tierra_y_Libertad   Apr-10-11 11:40 AM   #27 
  - Well said...  Cameron27   Apr-10-11 11:48 AM   #31 
  - IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT THEN YOU CAN LEAVE !!!!111!!11 SERIES1!!!1  Thunderstruck   Apr-10-11 11:46 AM   #30 
  - Welcome to DU. Perhaps you should read the rules?  Ignis   Apr-10-11 12:58 PM   #34 
  - No.  Dappleganger   Apr-10-11 01:00 PM   #35 
  - Does it make you ner ous that many of us have chosen a different team?  tavalon   Apr-10-11 04:58 PM   #44 
  - not one bit. you can throw your vote away if you like. it is your right.  ReturnoftheDjedi   Apr-10-11 07:31 PM   #55 
  - Wow, way to add things to what I said.  tavalon   Apr-10-11 07:44 PM   # 
     - +1 nt  TBF   Apr-10-11 08:30 PM   #92 
  - I'm glad that it makes some Democrats nervous  EvolveOrConvolve   Apr-10-11 07:39 PM   #68 
     - Can't really help with that  tavalon   Apr-10-11 07:52 PM   #76 
     - You wanna know something even more amusing?  EvolveOrConvolve   Apr-10-11 08:17 PM   #80 
        - Yep  tavalon   Apr-10-11 11:38 PM   #130 
        - well i see the boise state bronco.  oldhippydude   Apr-11-11 04:00 AM   #148 
        - I bleed blue and orange!  EvolveOrConvolve   Apr-11-11 06:50 PM   #224 
        - About republicans -  TBF   Apr-11-11 09:45 AM   #180 
     - There are a lot of socialist organizations.,  white_wolf   Apr-10-11 08:24 PM   #86 
     - Read some Leon Trotsky. As wolf has said..........  socialist_n_TN   Apr-10-11 09:33 PM   #114 
        - I would advise reading Lenin as well  white_wolf   Apr-10-11 09:42 PM   #120 
           - Yes. ALWAYS source material.......  socialist_n_TN   Apr-10-11 09:47 PM   #123 
           - Lenin - my recommendation is Imperialism  TBF   Apr-11-11 11:51 AM   #209 
  - Good point  EvolveOrConvolve   Apr-10-11 07:37 PM   #64 
  - Good grief. Listen to yourself. Many people are being disenfranchised by the current leaders of  rhett o rick   Apr-10-11 11:24 PM   #128 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-11-11 01:55 AM   #140 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-11-11 02:46 AM   #145 
  - No, you're the Democrat.  originalpckelly   Apr-10-11 11:09 AM   #5 
  - move to California, dems here do not grovel to and appease republicans :-) nt  msongs   Apr-10-11 11:11 AM   #7 
  - They just elect them to the governorship routinely.  former9thward   Apr-10-11 01:17 PM   #38 
  - I know they're the sell-outs  EvolveOrConvolve   Apr-10-11 07:44 PM   #70 
  - Trust me, he'll have more fight in him as a socialist.......  socialist_n_TN   Apr-10-11 09:39 PM   #117 
  - Welcome to the club!  Hawkowl   Apr-10-11 11:14 AM   #11 
  - Exactly!  EvolveOrConvolve   Apr-10-11 07:30 PM   #54 
  - Bully for you...nt  SidDithers   Apr-10-11 11:14 AM   #12 
  - Welcome to the ever growing club.  MuseRider   Apr-10-11 11:17 AM   #13 
  - Thanks, when do I get my badge and learn the secret handshake?  EvolveOrConvolve   Apr-10-11 08:18 PM   #82 
  - Welcome to the club.  white_wolf   Apr-10-11 11:19 AM   #15 
  - We are enslaved by labels that take higher priority than issues. nt  patrice   Apr-10-11 11:20 AM   #16 
  - Good on you.  Scurrilous   Apr-10-11 11:21 AM   #17 
  - I suspect over time, we will see a lot more people take up that title.  white_wolf   Apr-10-11 11:22 AM   #18 
  - Word my friend.........  socialist_n_TN   Apr-10-11 09:41 PM   #119 
  - So true! I can't say whether the capitalists converted me to socialism  Raksha   Apr-10-11 11:48 PM   #131 
  - I realized I was a Socialist some time ago.  Vinca   Apr-10-11 11:24 AM   #19 
  - You are in good company.  white_wolf   Apr-10-11 11:27 AM   #21 
  - Been NPA (no party affiliate) for years.  Dappleganger   Apr-10-11 01:01 PM   #36 
  - I'm Indy, going Green nt.  eilen   Apr-10-11 02:34 PM   #40 
  - me too  dana_b   Apr-10-11 07:38 PM   #66 
  - And therein lies the question. What would happen if more and more  jwirr   Apr-11-11 11:49 AM   #208 
  - There has to be  oldlib   Apr-10-11 11:28 AM   #22 
  - I say I'm a Progressive who is registered as a Democrat but votes independently  mod mom   Apr-10-11 11:28 AM   #23 
  - That's just a crutch for your inaction in the primaries.  tcaudilllg   Apr-11-11 09:14 AM   #173 
     - You don't know what you're talking about.  mod mom   Apr-11-11 10:45 AM   #192 
  - I certainly do not share the values displayed by the democatic executive office.  geckosfeet   Apr-10-11 11:34 AM   #24 
  - Finding that I agreed with Bernie Sanders on almost everything  EvolveOrConvolve   Apr-10-11 08:24 PM   #84 
  - That's sounds about right.  DCBob   Apr-10-11 11:56 AM   #32 
  - I don't think so  Mojorabbit   Apr-10-11 01:38 PM   #39 
     - I am sure you realize attitudes and politics are not static and evolve over time.  DCBob   Apr-10-11 04:41 PM   #43 
        - Polls show that the public  Mojorabbit   Apr-10-11 08:44 PM   #100 
        - You're fighting the last war............  socialist_n_TN   Apr-10-11 09:46 PM   #122 
  - Soooo what does that mean in the real world.. you are not supporting  Peacetrain   Apr-10-11 01:04 PM   #37 
  - I didn't say either of those things  EvolveOrConvolve   Apr-10-11 07:31 PM   #56 
  - Was Dem....now an official Green. Left behind the corporatists  AnOhioan   Apr-10-11 04:09 PM   #41 
  - Card carrying DSA member here  Ruby the Liberal   Apr-10-11 04:15 PM   #42 
  - I signed up for the email list last night  EvolveOrConvolve   Apr-11-11 06:59 PM   #226 
  - That's fine. Now can you, the Greens and other Nader types  ecstatic   Apr-10-11 05:05 PM   #45 
  - Drive all dissenters away! Brilliant idea.  Cameron27   Apr-10-11 05:30 PM   #49 
  - Really? You mean you WOULD vote for Obama, except for what one guy said to you on DU?  Warren DeMontague   Apr-10-11 07:38 PM   #67 
     - Wow yourself.  Cameron27   Apr-10-11 08:17 PM   #81 
     - I'm not that flexible.  Warren DeMontague   Apr-11-11 12:31 PM   #215 
     - Ever heard of the lesser of two evils? I voted for JFK but I do not see  jwirr   Apr-11-11 12:04 PM   #210 
        - Wait. Slow down. One thing at a time.  Warren DeMontague   Apr-11-11 12:41 PM   #216 
           - You may think that they helped the problem with the bailouts. I think  jwirr   Apr-11-11 10:44 PM   #227 
  - What's the matter, you guys not able to sell out the working class fast enough?  PassingFair   Apr-10-11 05:32 PM   #50 
  - I'm just wondering what the specific outrage is, today.  Warren DeMontague   Apr-10-11 07:39 PM   #69 
  - Bingo!  EvolveOrConvolve   Apr-10-11 07:48 PM   #72 
  - It's that type of over the top comment that makes it a waste of time  ecstatic   Apr-10-11 09:12 PM   #107 
     - I'm sure we would be happy with Sanders, but to  white_wolf   Apr-10-11 09:31 PM   #113 
  - Done  EvolveOrConvolve   Apr-10-11 07:32 PM   #58 
  - "Real Democrats?" I wonder if they saw the current state of the party today  white_wolf   Apr-10-11 08:27 PM   #88 
  - Hell, Eisenhower is looking leftist next to some of these folks ... nt  TBF   Apr-10-11 08:36 PM   #96 
  - So enlighten us wise one - if you are hell-bent on throwing out paying progressives  TBF   Apr-10-11 08:35 PM   #95 
  - I'm a paying progressive too who votes Democratic... the OP says he no longer  ecstatic   Apr-10-11 08:51 PM   #103 
     - He never said he would be helping the GOP, but great strawman.  white_wolf   Apr-10-11 09:28 PM   #110 
     - Right. And FDR was ripped apart by people like you too nt  ecstatic   Apr-10-11 09:29 PM   #111 
        - It was people like me who helped push FDR to the left.  white_wolf   Apr-10-11 09:33 PM   #115 
           - Maybe you should read this...  ecstatic   Apr-10-11 09:38 PM   #116 
              - Yes, the Left criticized FDR  white_wolf   Apr-10-11 09:46 PM   #121 
              - Absolutely correct - FDR was very status quo  TBF   Apr-11-11 09:53 AM   #183 
              - +100 excellent find  stockholmer   Apr-11-11 11:39 AM   #207 
     - Go back to the op and read it again - that was not stated except by you.  LaurenG   Apr-11-11 08:20 AM   #169 
     - What we are in our hearts is not helping the gop. If we stay home,  jwirr   Apr-11-11 12:14 PM   #212 
  - Leave?... this is one "Nader-type" who's staying long enough to have a say in the primary...  LooseWilly   Apr-11-11 04:36 AM   #150 
  - Don't care.  Blue-Jay   Apr-10-11 05:09 PM   #46 
  - I didn't think about your opinion before I posted it  EvolveOrConvolve   Apr-10-11 07:34 PM   #60 
  - +1  Bobbie Jo   Apr-10-11 07:50 PM   #73 
  - I solve this by simply  themadstork   Apr-10-11 05:59 PM   #51 
  - I can call myself a Democrat, I just can't call them Democrats.  EstimatedProphet   Apr-10-11 07:33 PM   #59 
  - so true  inna   Apr-10-11 07:51 PM   #75 
  - ***  Warren DeMontague   Apr-10-11 07:34 PM   #61 
  - Thanks for your well-thought out feedback - it was real helpful  EvolveOrConvolve   Apr-10-11 07:35 PM   #62 
     - ***  Warren DeMontague   Apr-10-11 07:37 PM   #65 
        - ***  EvolveOrConvolve   Apr-10-11 08:27 PM   #87 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-10-11 08:00 PM   #77 
  - No, I think "Democratic Underground" is a perfect name  EvolveOrConvolve   Apr-10-11 08:15 PM   #79 
  - "dream world"  Bobbie Jo   Apr-10-11 08:22 PM   #83 
  - Too bad they don't want their social values or economic intelligence back. nt  dorkulon   Apr-10-11 09:03 PM   #106 
  - Addendum #1  EvolveOrConvolve   Apr-10-11 08:12 PM   #78 
  - I too have recently started to call myself  Harmony Blue   Apr-10-11 08:28 PM   #89 
  - And welcome to you, too, Harmony Blue  socialist_n_TN   Apr-10-11 09:55 PM   #124 
  - You should. It's nothing to be ashamed of.  Shagbark Hickory   Apr-10-11 08:30 PM   #90 
  - Thank you!  EvolveOrConvolve   Apr-10-11 08:31 PM   #93 
     - Voter registrations in my former state (floree-duh) used to have it as an option.  Shagbark Hickory   Apr-10-11 08:34 PM   #94 
        - Almost all of the civilized world has socialist parties part of the political process  Harmony Blue   Apr-10-11 08:38 PM   #97 
           - Precisely. nt  Shagbark Hickory   Apr-10-11 08:39 PM   #98 
  - I'm a leastworstocrat and I always try to vote for the least worst candidate.  greendog   Apr-10-11 08:46 PM   #101 
  - maybe instead of not calling yourself a Democrat...  Capitalocracy   Apr-10-11 08:48 PM   #102 
  - We cant win by abandoning the Democratic Party. We need to fight for it back. nm  rhett o rick   Apr-10-11 08:58 PM   #104 
  - I agree with that  Harmony Blue   Apr-10-11 09:00 PM   #105 
     - The younger generation turned out big-time in 2008  EvolveOrConvolve   Apr-10-11 09:30 PM   #112 
        - That is true  Harmony Blue   Apr-10-11 09:40 PM   #118 
        - 08 was the first time I could vote for a president and  white_wolf   Apr-10-11 09:57 PM   #125 
        - We may never get those kids back  Ken Burch   Apr-11-11 12:26 AM   #133 
  - Recced- but I don't know if I'd call myself a Socialist. However, the way...  Poll_Blind   Apr-10-11 10:20 PM   #127 
  - If it makes the purists feel better, just call yourself a Democratic Socialist. nt REC  bertman   Apr-10-11 11:36 PM   #129 
  - I am proud to stand with Bernie Sanders  slay   Apr-11-11 12:22 AM   #132 
  - Fingers crossed  JackInGreen   Apr-11-11 12:46 AM   #135 
  - I've been calling myself  JackInGreen   Apr-11-11 12:44 AM   #134 
  - google Socialist Party USA  Marrah_G   Apr-11-11 07:55 AM   #168 
  - So are you going to vote for Democrats next year or  NYC Liberal   Apr-11-11 12:53 AM   #137 
  - While I agree with you,  Sherman A1   Apr-11-11 02:49 AM   #146 
  - It's certainly true that too few Dems stand up for us. Yet, at the same time--  eridani   Apr-11-11 04:29 AM   #149 
  - What has being a "Democrat" ever meant?  harmonicon   Apr-11-11 06:16 AM   #152 
  - I have on my kitchen table a North Carolina Voter Registration Application.  mmonk   Apr-11-11 06:24 AM   #153 
  - I too align much stronger  dotymed   Apr-11-11 06:27 AM   #154 
  - Zell Miller still calls himself a Democrat so consider it a split nt  rpannier   Apr-11-11 06:50 AM   #157 
  - A label by any other name is just as useless  DFW   Apr-11-11 06:50 AM   #158 
  - I became an "Independent" last fall  ThomWV   Apr-11-11 07:08 AM   #159 
  - I've been doing the same since the Democrats extended "The Bush tax cuts for the rich"  Dawgs   Apr-11-11 07:18 AM   #160 
  - That was the last straw for me too  ThomWV   Apr-11-11 07:27 AM   #163 
  - Agree. That was just the final straw.  Dawgs   Apr-11-11 02:24 PM   #219 
  - I actually think that Bernie identifies as a  socialist_n_TN   Apr-11-11 04:41 PM   #222 
  - Why label yourself? It's all about policy and values...  Liberal_Stalwart71   Apr-11-11 07:22 AM   #161 
  - 100%, EOC.  Dogtown   Apr-11-11 07:25 AM   #162 
  - I started refering to myself as a socialist a bit more then a year ago  Marrah_G   Apr-11-11 07:33 AM   #164 
  - "Nationals Socialists Party!?"  white_wolf   Apr-11-11 12:11 PM   #211 
     - Yes socialist party USA  Marrah_G   Apr-12-11 01:50 PM   #228 
  - I've been recently wondering whether I need to do this as well..  disillusioned73   Apr-11-11 07:35 AM   #165 
  - I am of the same ilk as Bernie!!  OwnedByFerrets   Apr-11-11 07:47 AM   #167 
  - We are all socialists. Including the GOP.  baldguy   Apr-11-11 08:35 AM   #170 
  - Hey...welcome to the Club, fellow Socialist!  Taverner   Apr-11-11 08:48 AM   #171 
  - "Arise, you victims of oppression...  Deep13   Apr-11-11 08:56 AM   #172 
  - +1000000000  Taverner   Apr-11-11 11:19 AM   #199 
  - Look at all of those rabble rousers who aren't "pragmatic" and "sensible".  myrna minx   Apr-11-11 11:33 AM   #205 
  - It makes a lot more sense  They_Live   Apr-11-11 09:25 AM   #174 
  - If wanting to help other's  fredamae   Apr-11-11 09:33 AM   #175 
  - If Socialism means actually sharing *at least some of the wealth*, I'm a Socialist, too.  valerief   Apr-11-11 09:35 AM   #176 
  - Welcome  BlueJac   Apr-11-11 09:36 AM   #177 
  - I am a socialist too....  mike_c   Apr-11-11 09:38 AM   #178 
  - Hey, call yourself what you want  center rising   Apr-11-11 09:45 AM   #181 
  - I'm more of a "Christian Democrat"  meow2u3   Apr-11-11 09:48 AM   #182 
  - I am sort of a Social Democrat, as they refer to those of our ilk in Europe.  kestrel91316   Apr-11-11 10:02 AM   #184 
  - Democratic Socialist here too.  NorthCarolina   Apr-11-11 10:02 AM   #185 
  - Yes I agree....though I think it would be smarter for disenfranchised  ooglymoogly   Apr-11-11 10:10 AM   #189 
  - Thanks, Evolve!  protect our future   Apr-11-11 10:43 AM   #190 
  - Democracy and Socialism  goodnews   Apr-11-11 10:45 AM   #191 
  - Whoa..."progressive" is now an uncool label???  Skidmore   Apr-11-11 10:47 AM   #193 
  - Oh noes!!!  techno   Apr-11-11 11:00 AM   #194 
  - I was wondering when someone would start this.  white_wolf   Apr-11-11 12:29 PM   #214 
  - Your post is sad on so many levels.  Dawgs   Apr-11-11 02:37 PM   #220 
     - Not so sad as a die-hard Marxist  techno   Apr-11-11 06:55 PM   #225 
  - Oh, dear. That is a decision my sister & I made way back in the 70s  jwirr   Apr-11-11 11:01 AM   #195 
  - Why do you have to be labeled anything?  rl6214   Apr-11-11 11:04 AM   #196 
  - my party's(Swedish Green Party) platform from 2010 elections, it's how I wish US Dems would govern  stockholmer   Apr-11-11 11:11 AM   #197 
  - Glad you're happy. Irrelevant, but happy.  dmallind   Apr-11-11 11:28 AM   #202 
  - Come to Wisconsin.  undeterred   Apr-11-11 11:31 AM   #204 
  - "Socialism needs Democracy like the body needs oxygen." Leon Trotsky.  white_wolf   Apr-11-11 12:20 PM   #213 
  - Yup, me too. I sometimes call myself a "small d democrat", though.  chaska   Apr-11-11 01:21 PM   #218 
 

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