TheKentuckian
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Tue Dec-28-10 05:35 PM
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| 6. I have always been a Democrat but it was a match in principles and vision |
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Not the letter "D" or the donkey. There have been times in history that I'd never be a Democrat but I happened to be born in a favorable epoch.
Party first is the height of absurdity and certainly rudderlessness. When the party no longer represents your values or shares your aspirations for the nation it should and must be opposed.
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| -Which makes more sense to you, "Party First" or "Ideology First?" |
Stinky The Clown |
Dec-28-10 05:22 PM |
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The second one, but I think it should be called principles, not ideology |
FiveGoodMen |
Dec-28-10 05:25 PM |
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I would call it "philosophy" = system of values. I affiliate with the |
ladjf |
Dec-28-10 06:19 PM |
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I was not always a Democrat, or a liberal. |
RandomThoughts |
Dec-28-10 05:27 PM |
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Neither. The good of the planet and it's people first. |
Speck Tater |
Dec-28-10 05:29 PM |
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Is that your ideology? |
Bandit |
Dec-28-10 06:15 PM |
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Not that I disagree at all, but I'd qualify that as ideology. (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Dec-28-10 07:10 PM |
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Ah. I see. I was thinking of "ideology" as refering specifically to "Democratic ideology", |
Speck Tater |
Dec-28-10 10:08 PM |
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I've never been party first. Even though I have been |
Cleita |
Dec-28-10 05:33 PM |
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ideology, certainly.... |
mike_c |
Dec-28-10 05:33 PM |
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I have always been a Democrat but it was a match in principles and vision |
TheKentuckian |
Dec-28-10 05:35 PM |
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Progressive principles |
somone |
Dec-28-10 05:38 PM |
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Principles first. |
LWolf |
Dec-28-10 05:38 PM |
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Hey you! |
MuseRider |
Dec-28-10 07:31 PM |
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Long time no see is right. |
LWolf |
Dec-29-10 12:21 PM |
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If we had an ideology , this would not be a question. An ideology |
OHdem10 |
Dec-28-10 05:47 PM |
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Ideology for me, |
Blue_In_AK |
Dec-28-10 05:49 PM |
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Ideology first. I couldn't give a fuck about the institutional party. Our party's ideology was... |
JVS |
Dec-28-10 05:52 PM |
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I'm with you.......... |
Scottybeamer70 |
Dec-28-10 05:54 PM |
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If you choose party over ideology then your treating politics like sports |
Lorien |
Dec-28-10 05:56 PM |
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Thoughtful post, and I feel your pain. However . . . |
MrModerate |
Dec-28-10 05:59 PM |
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I'm pretty much against cutting our own selves down at the knees |
MrScorpio |
Dec-28-10 06:04 PM |
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I am a liberal first. If the Republicans suddenly became liberal, I would vote for them. n/t |
Laelth |
Dec-28-10 06:04 PM |
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Me, too, Laelth. |
Blue_In_AK |
Dec-28-10 07:01 PM |
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What about personality first? |
leeroysphitz |
Dec-28-10 06:20 PM |
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I am principles first. I use to feel very loyal to my party........... |
Little Star |
Dec-28-10 06:22 PM |
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That's how I feel. |
emilyg |
Dec-28-10 06:32 PM |
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Unless there's going to be a presidential candidate who comes forward with all the |
pacalo |
Dec-28-10 06:30 PM |
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As you quote: "They have nowhere else to go" |
Stinky The Clown |
Dec-28-10 06:47 PM |
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What disturbed me as much as that statement itself was that it was spoken in tandem |
pacalo |
Dec-28-10 07:43 PM |
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Those footsteps you hear are me---walking the same path. As usual, |
Atticus |
Dec-28-10 06:39 PM |
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Hands down: Ideology. n/t |
cherokeeprogressive |
Dec-28-10 06:43 PM |
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Do liberals believe in ideology? |
eallen |
Dec-28-10 07:07 PM |
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We all have personal ideologies |
Stinky The Clown |
Dec-28-10 07:14 PM |
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Do you find no tension among your various values? And that evolution of your values.... |
eallen |
Dec-28-10 08:19 PM |
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I always prefer to party first and...oh wait... |
Foo Fighter |
Dec-28-10 07:45 PM |
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Given the alternative, democratic party first. What other choice is there? nt. |
bluestate10 |
Dec-28-10 07:45 PM |
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Whichever one is least corrupted at the time. |
rucky |
Dec-28-10 07:46 PM |
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THIS is the "Democratic Party" I joined 44 years ago: |
bvar22 |
Dec-28-10 07:46 PM |
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Virtually every one of those has been compromised and left unachieved. |
Stinky The Clown |
Dec-28-10 08:08 PM |
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If the strongest argument for a decision is pragmatism, it is inherently suspect. |
rug |
Dec-28-10 07:56 PM |
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I think if Republicans became a more progressive party than Democrats, most people would have no |
BzaDem |
Dec-28-10 08:14 PM |
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I like "Policy first". |
bemildred |
Dec-28-10 08:20 PM |
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Ideology. |
pecwae |
Dec-28-10 10:17 PM |
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'Party first' is but one among many ideologies. |
GeorgeGist |
Dec-29-10 09:15 AM |
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Neither. |
JamesA1102 |
Dec-29-10 09:23 AM |
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utility first, and second, and third..... |
dmallind |
Dec-29-10 01:45 PM |
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I vote issues. Not party or politician. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Dec-29-10 01:47 PM |
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Ideology... |
Shandris |
Dec-29-10 02:04 PM |
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Ideology - parties in this country represent few of the views I hold - |
TBF |
Dec-29-10 02:31 PM |
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