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JFN1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 09:43 PM
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Upset over the "loss of unity" at DU? Gosh, gee, wow, hand wringing, etc...
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I have read quite a few OP's in the last several weeks concerned over the perception of Democratic unity eroding away. People express a variety of emotions when voicing their concerns - a sense of loss, depression, frustration, disillusionment - a lot of unhappiness, to say the least.

A tireless theme in these outpourings is a strange, sideways sort of longing for the days of George W., when we had a "common enemy," and we found that our differences, while still present, were more a distraction than a commentary on Democrats in general - in other words, it was no big deal, because we had a much bigger fight on our hands - personified in the boy king and his cohorts.

I have to agree - the unity Bush spawned has faded and we now find ourselves occupied with trying to convince each other to support the powers that be or risk finding ourselves under the thumb of another Republican like, or worse, than Bushie boy. Sometimes the fear is thicker than spoiled milk.

I can tell you EXACTLY why we have no unity.

We united to get Obama elected, and though many supporters of other candidates were disappointed, they too "came back to the fold" and supported the Democratic nominee all the way into office, and then doggedly kept that support going in the face of disappointment after disappointment after disappointment.

SOME OF US united behind the ideals and ethics and promised actions. SOME OF US never bought into the cult of personality represented by Mr. Obama, or by the Democratic Party.

We united behind a SET OF VALUES we wished to see revived in our culture.

Want some unity again?


When you support a PERSON and not the values you support that person to act upon, you will excuse ANYTHING THEY DO OR DON'T DO which contradicts your OWN VALUES. This ain't friggin' Beverly Hills 90210 -- this is our CHILDREN'S FUTURES. And you want to bitch about disunity instead of working to defend and fight for your values?

Grow the fuck up and stand up for your values instead of living in the false comfort of a persistently dishonest cult of personality. This isn't a goddamn high school popularity contest, and the level of Democratic "hurt feelings" is getting to be pathetic. Supporting a PERSON instead of YOUR VALUES is weak, hypocritical, self-serving, and indicative of a lack of focus on WHO WE ARE.

And perhaps worst of all, it is a selfish betrayal of our potential.

I want, as do countless other people, true unity...but we are NOT going to find it in the box of tissues we keep passing around.

Our values are the ONLY honest unity we EVER had.
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  -Upset over the "loss of unity" at DU? Gosh, gee, wow, hand wringing, etc... JFN1  Apr-04-11 09:43 PM   #0 
  - No, no, no  gratuitous   Apr-04-11 09:46 PM   #1 
  - Why would we arrest your case?  virgogal   Apr-04-11 09:48 PM   # 
  - Uh, see, there was a poster named Mr. Benchley  gratuitous   Apr-04-11 11:20 PM   #25 
     - !  Occulus   Apr-04-11 11:32 PM   #35 
     - What fond memories.  LWolf   Apr-05-11 07:15 AM   #66 
  - More like, they told us we had "no place to go" and they must be right -- !!  defendandprotect   Apr-04-11 11:22 PM   #26 
  - Good post. You do have a point there.  Autumn   Apr-04-11 09:46 PM   #2 
  - .............  Angry Dragon   Apr-04-11 09:48 PM   #3 
  - HUGE K & R !!!  WillyT   Apr-04-11 09:48 PM   #4 
  - There'd be unity if the de facto Party head (sitting POTUS) didn't oppose the Party platform. eom  TransitJohn   Apr-04-11 09:50 PM   #5 
  - and if the masses didn't ACCEPT the POTUS opposing the party platform.  piratefish08   Apr-05-11 07:06 AM   #61 
  - Worse yet, replace it with RW platform  Avant Guardian   Apr-05-11 07:41 AM   #74 
  - shorter OP: IF YOU WANT UNITY, AGREE WITH ME  Teaser   Apr-04-11 09:50 PM   #6 
  - Woosh... Right Over Your Head...  WillyT   Apr-04-11 10:03 PM   #11 
  - OH NOES YOUR CLEVER PIC HAS REFUTED ME  Teaser   Apr-04-11 11:05 PM   #24 
  - Uh - I never said MY values - I said, repeatedly, YOUR values.  JFN1   Apr-04-11 10:07 PM   #12 
  - sorry, but  Teaser   Apr-04-11 11:05 PM   #23 
     - If you read any of the "support" articles, you will find they are FEAR based --  defendandprotect   Apr-04-11 11:30 PM   #33 
     - Okay, I've just got to bite  JFN1   Apr-05-11 12:19 AM   #47 
     - You are correct. He concludes that those who support Obama only do so  JoePhilly   Apr-05-11 07:15 AM   #67 
  - Reading comprehension can be your friend  tavalon   Apr-05-11 05:20 AM   #53 
  - +1...nt  SidDithers   Apr-05-11 07:18 AM   #68 
  - +100000  Donnachaidh   Apr-04-11 09:51 PM   #7 
  - I won't abandon my principles for any politician or political party. I'm still against all the  pacalo   Apr-04-11 09:53 PM   #8 
  - which certain lines would that be?  2banon   Apr-04-11 11:23 PM   #28 
     - I'm wondering the same thing -- !! Amazing this trust after these two years -- !!  defendandprotect   Apr-04-11 11:32 PM   #34 
        - more rumors that SS is on the butcher block in these behind the scenes negotiations  2banon   Apr-05-11 12:03 AM   #43 
  - right on! I don't want a loony religious fundamentalist in the white house  alp227   Apr-04-11 09:57 PM   #9 
  - You mean they might give our taxpayer dollars to "faith-based" religious orgs?  defendandprotect   Apr-04-11 11:37 PM   #38 
  - I'm "disappointed:" because I feel my VALUES aren't being supported - no cult  gateley   Apr-04-11 10:02 PM   #10 
  - Indeed...  JFN1   Apr-04-11 10:10 PM   #14 
  - I recommend this post  mitchtv   Apr-04-11 10:13 PM   #15 
  - once again, Gately, You nailed it.  gimama   Apr-04-11 11:43 PM   #41 
  - cult of personality?  mythology   Apr-04-11 10:08 PM   #13 
  - Good point.  emulatorloo   Apr-04-11 10:18 PM   #17 
  - I'm always suspicious when people lob that "cult of personality" charge that  gateley   Apr-04-11 10:20 PM   #18 
  - Paitence... patience... patience... count to 100...  JFN1   Apr-04-11 11:36 PM   #37 
  - Well, I'm glad you set us all straight. Hows does 1 person reflect the specific values of millions  elocs   Apr-04-11 10:17 PM   #16 
  - I appreciate your response.  JFN1   Apr-04-11 10:45 PM   #19 
  - Fucking Amen  somone   Apr-04-11 10:51 PM   #20 
  - The class war extends into DU. There are the corporatist/centrists vs. the humans. nm  rhett o rick   Apr-04-11 10:55 PM   #21 
  - You hit it on the head  somone   Apr-04-11 11:00 PM   #22 
  - LOL! That sounds like the leftwing flipside of George Bush simplicity.  Buzz Clik   Apr-05-11 07:12 AM   #65 
     - It is the one thing that Boy Georgie got right. In a war there are only two sides.  rhett o rick   Apr-05-11 07:45 AM   #75 
        - You can have your little war. I'll pass, thank you.  Buzz Clik   Apr-05-11 08:03 AM   #80 
  - we probably do not have that much unity in our values  hfojvt   Apr-04-11 11:22 PM   #27 
  - Don't get lost in the braches  JFN1   Apr-04-11 11:42 PM   #40 
  - I have been trying to find out what values centrists have but none will fess up.  rhett o rick   Apr-05-11 07:48 AM   #77 
  - There will never be unity with a Democrat in power, because "your values" are defined in such a way  BzaDem   Apr-04-11 11:24 PM   #29 
  - +100000  stevenleser   Apr-05-11 12:08 AM   #44 
  - Congress and the President are almost all members of the top 1% class.  rhett o rick   Apr-05-11 07:52 AM   #79 
  - Terrific OP --but think they're too fearful to break out of prison -- !!  defendandprotect   Apr-04-11 11:28 PM   #30 
  - Unity can't happen if there's no valid goal to pursue.  BlueIris   Apr-04-11 11:28 PM   #31 
  - My outlook is that if we all agreed about everything all the time...  WCGreen   Apr-04-11 11:29 PM   #32 
  - thank YOU for sayin' it!  gimama   Apr-04-11 11:32 PM   #36 
  - I'm not a member of any organized political party...  Nevernose   Apr-04-11 11:41 PM   #39 
  - Unrec  madamesilverspurs   Apr-04-11 11:58 PM   #42 
  - Unrec, Fail and Ignore. n/t  stevenleser   Apr-05-11 12:09 AM   #45 
  - That sounds like  Rex   Apr-05-11 12:12 AM   #46 
  - Excellent summary of the situation  slay   Apr-05-11 12:20 AM   #48 
  - Recommend x100  crim son   Apr-05-11 12:27 AM   #49 
  - "cult of personality represented by Mr. Obama"? "SELFISH CALL OF CELEBRITY"?  NYC Liberal   Apr-05-11 12:39 AM   #50 
  - Anger, huh?  JFN1   Apr-05-11 12:46 AM   #51 
  - Yes, it's a right wing Republican talking point and that bullshit  NYC Liberal   Apr-05-11 05:52 AM   #57 
     - What would you call it then?  Avant Guardian   Apr-05-11 07:50 AM   #78 
  - He doesn't seem to get that claiming those who support Obama only  JoePhilly   Apr-05-11 07:29 AM   #70 
  - kick & rec, You called it.  gimama   Apr-05-11 01:25 AM   #52 
  - Horse hockey pucks.  Skidmore   Apr-05-11 05:23 AM   #54 
  - K & R!!!  ReggieVeggie   Apr-05-11 05:25 AM   #55 
  - I`m glad you understand the problem.  democrank   Apr-05-11 05:34 AM   #56 
  - Winning at all costs  pmorlan1   Apr-05-11 07:33 AM   #71 
  - Another "Let's all unify to support 'my SET OF VALUES'". In 2008 the only UNITY  pampango   Apr-05-11 05:58 AM   #58 
  - +1  Buzz Clik   Apr-05-11 07:02 AM   #60 
  - "Idealism!!! Yes, till the day I die! But, will I lead? Sounds scary."  Buzz Clik   Apr-05-11 07:02 AM   #59 
  - Victory for victory's sake? Bullshit!  Jester Messiah   Apr-05-11 07:07 AM   #62 
  - +1  Buzz Clik   Apr-05-11 07:11 AM   #64 
  - Well said!  smokey nj   Apr-05-11 07:08 AM   #63 
  - Vote for whomever you want, but don't use DU to help Republicans...nt  SidDithers   Apr-05-11 07:24 AM   #69 
  - Bravo, and thank you.  Myrina   Apr-05-11 07:36 AM   #72 
  - Black and white  pipi_k   Apr-05-11 07:39 AM   #73 
  - Happily recommend!  Puglover   Apr-05-11 07:48 AM   #76 
  - Locking  NRaleighLiberal   Apr-05-11 08:17 AM   #81 

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