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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 11:57 PM
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103. "Or else" is an idle threat.
Why don't we all work together to bring in a better candidate instead of saying we should vote for the one in office "or else?"

Saying crap like "He's better than a republican" or "the the teabaggers will get in" or other nonsense is not a good way to get someone elected.

Instead of giving $1B to Obama, how about we all pool our money and help ourselves out since our government has turned its back on us?
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  -Is "or else" really going to get Obama re-elected? NightWatcher  Apr-04-11 12:42 PM   #0 
  - Or Else? Governor Walker.  FSogol   Apr-04-11 12:43 PM   #1 
  - Recommend  xchrom   Apr-04-11 12:44 PM   #2 
  - Who else? n/t  Autumn   Apr-04-11 12:44 PM   #3 
  - Mitt, Newt, Huck, Michelle, Tim, etc.  progressoid   Apr-04-11 01:06 PM   #32 
     - That would be the point I made.  Autumn   Apr-04-11 01:08 PM   #33 
        - Oh I donno, I could see voting for Michelle Bachmann,  progressoid   Apr-04-11 01:38 PM   #43 
           - Someone would have to use my rotting fingers off  Autumn   Apr-04-11 01:39 PM   #47 
  - yes  Odious justice   Apr-04-11 12:44 PM   #4 
  - Depending on if there is a primary...  Ohio Joe   Apr-04-11 12:44 PM   #5 
  - States like WI, OH, IN, and FL will be interesting. Usually local elections ride on the national -  PeaceNikki   Apr-04-11 12:44 PM   #6 
  - Assuming the dictators of those states allow fair elections.  rucky   Apr-04-11 12:59 PM   #24 
  - Yes it is.  Democracyinkind   Apr-04-11 12:46 PM   #7 
  - go ahead and teach him a lesson. It worked so well in 2010.  ReturnoftheDjedi   Apr-04-11 12:47 PM   #8 
  - Yup, the youth, minorities, Obamacans, and "centrists" sure taught a message.  TheKentuckian   Apr-04-11 12:55 PM   #21 
     - Obama is where he is because he has been successful.  Solomon   Apr-04-11 01:00 PM   #25 
        - +1 n/t  JTFrog   Apr-04-11 01:21 PM   #39 
        - Very successful!  Dawgs   Apr-04-11 01:40 PM   #48 
        - Failures like Bush, Hoover, and Reagan all were elected. Some multiple times.  TheKentuckian   Apr-04-11 01:55 PM   #58 
        - "successful" to whom?  druidity33   Apr-04-11 02:41 PM   #62 
        - Success by what definition? George W. Bush won re-election. That's a low standard to beat.  Selatius   Apr-05-11 12:06 AM   #105 
  - No flames from me.  CaliforniaPeggy   Apr-04-11 12:48 PM   #9 
  - Barack Obama, Michelle decide  Hugabear   Apr-04-11 12:48 PM   #10 
  - motivate with the carrot, not the stick  NightWatcher   Apr-04-11 12:51 PM   #16 
  - Just a hunch...  Skinner   Apr-04-11 12:48 PM   #11 
  - My call for slogan is "lasting change"  ixion   Apr-04-11 12:50 PM   #14 
  - He is talking about a lot of posters here on DU Skinner.  Rex   Apr-04-11 04:17 PM   #80 
  - No, actually, the overwhelming support by Democrats for the  MineralMan   Apr-04-11 12:49 PM   #12 
  - "don't confuse me with the facts" n/t  emulatorloo   Apr-04-11 01:04 PM   #30 
  - +1  FLPanhandle   Apr-04-11 01:15 PM   #38 
  - k/r  ixion   Apr-04-11 12:49 PM   #13 
  - It shouldn't even need to be said. The "or else" is obvious.  MineralMan   Apr-04-11 12:51 PM   #15 
     - Of course we fear the GOP ... they'd keep the wars going, attack public education, Social Security..  defendandprotect   Apr-04-11 08:54 PM   #89 
  - Not in my case  Egnever   Apr-04-11 12:53 PM   #17 
  - its exactly the argument that the other side is going to use to get out heir voters  onenote   Apr-04-11 12:53 PM   #18 
  - I would like to be the first to propose a name for the 2012 Republican movement  RZM   Apr-04-11 01:42 PM   #53 
  - Exactly - and Republicans don't sit around claiming they aren't  treestar   Apr-04-11 04:03 PM   #72 
  - he can run on his record, that isn't an "or else" proposition  Motown_Johnny   Apr-04-11 12:54 PM   #19 
  - I think it's highly unlikely he'll lose.  cali   Apr-04-11 12:55 PM   #20 
  - It won't have to. n/t  LoZoccolo   Apr-04-11 12:55 PM   #22 
  - That's how he hopes to keep the Left while he simultanously courts the Center/Right with...  Poll_Blind   Apr-04-11 12:55 PM   #23 
  - My vote will be given with no strings attached.  jaxx   Apr-04-11 01:02 PM   #26 
  - I'll be voting for him as, at minimum, a talented place-holder.  FredStembottom   Apr-04-11 01:02 PM   #27 
  - Apparently so.  Safetykitten   Apr-04-11 01:02 PM   #28 
  - I think you are out of touch. Apr 3, Obama approval among Dems = 80%  emulatorloo   Apr-04-11 01:03 PM   #29 
  - Remind me again what Obama is doing in Wisc, OH, Ind ?????  daa   Apr-04-11 01:27 PM   #40 
  - remind me again what power he has over state issues?  Motown_Johnny   Apr-04-11 01:39 PM   #46 
  - Exactly what he should be - letting *US* handle it and not making it about him.  PeaceNikki   Apr-04-11 01:42 PM   #51 
  - Kucinich has been absent too, and OH is his home state!  apples and oranges   Apr-05-11 12:12 AM   #108 
  - Many, many people are now former dems  zalinda   Apr-04-11 01:36 PM   #42 
  - Obama didn't listen???? Where have you been???  Motown_Johnny   Apr-04-11 01:46 PM   #55 
  - Sorry, but none of that translates to those of us  zalinda   Apr-04-11 04:00 PM   #70 
  - What are they now, Republicans???  JoePhilly   Apr-04-11 04:08 PM   #75 
     - Of course not. The dem party left them, not the other way around.  zalinda   Apr-05-11 12:00 AM   #104 
  - Which, all told, is irrelevant on election day. The current numbers aren't enough to re-elect him.  Xithras   Apr-04-11 02:54 PM   #63 
  - Trying to use polling when there isn't a Republican candidate yet will not work.  jeff47   Apr-04-11 03:16 PM   #65 
  - Good points.  emulatorloo   Apr-04-11 03:31 PM   #66 
  - That may be the worst use of polling data I've ever seen at DU  onenote   Apr-04-11 04:11 PM   #76 
     - Lol, I know, I was just responding to its use upthread.  Xithras   Apr-04-11 04:32 PM   #82 
  - Then, we're pretty useless....  MrMickeysMom   Apr-04-11 11:17 PM   #100 
  - Polls mean nothing.  Lucian   Apr-04-11 11:21 PM   #101 
  - I guess it works on me. If I vote in CO I will vote for him, if I vote in CT then I won't.  Exultant Democracy   Apr-04-11 01:05 PM   #31 
  - Yes  Proud Liberal Dem   Apr-04-11 01:09 PM   #34 
  - It's an effective strategy for reaching the grown ups in the room...  ecstatic   Apr-04-11 01:14 PM   #35 
  - LOL  Solomon   Apr-04-11 02:21 PM   #60 
  - I think in 2008 a shit-ton of folk voted FOR 2012 they'll be voting AGAINST whichever...  truebrit71   Apr-04-11 01:14 PM   #36 
  - +1. There will be a lot of votes for President Placeholder. n/t  gkhouston   Apr-04-11 01:50 PM   #57 
  - I'm okay with that...  tallahasseedem   Apr-04-11 03:35 PM   #67 
  - I suspect that in 2008 a shit-ton of folks voted against 8 years of repub mismanagement  onenote   Apr-04-11 04:13 PM   #77 
  - 2008 spoiled us  Keith Bee   Apr-04-11 01:14 PM   #37 
  - "Or, else" and "Not as bad" is a "no sale" for me.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Apr-04-11 01:29 PM   #41 
  - +1  emilyg   Apr-04-11 01:40 PM   #49 
  - On the other hand it works fine for the other side  onenote   Apr-04-11 04:17 PM   #81 
  - +1. I don't respond well to threats and intimidation.  readmoreoften   Apr-04-11 10:58 PM   #92 
  - I think there's plenty of reasons beyond "or else" to vote for him in 2012 though.  NYC Liberal   Apr-04-11 01:38 PM   #44 
  - I don't think this is all that unusual  RZM   Apr-04-11 01:39 PM   #45 
  - "Re-Elect POTUS: Because Wall Street needs more money!!!"  Myrina   Apr-04-11 01:42 PM   #50 
  - Bernanke/Summers 2012 vs Chase/Goldman Sachs 2012  readmoreoften   Apr-04-11 11:04 PM   #95 
  - It's the ONLY reason I'll be voting for him this time.  Dawgs   Apr-04-11 01:42 PM   #52 
  - Someone else already said it.....  Sivart   Apr-04-11 01:55 PM   #59 
  - The threat works on me.  LiberalAndProud   Apr-04-11 01:44 PM   #54 
  - future SCOTUS  shanti   Apr-04-11 01:48 PM   #56 
  - It might happen but I can promise you one thing  tech9413   Apr-04-11 02:39 PM   #61 
  - Or else has to be used on a small minority,only.  Swede   Apr-04-11 02:58 PM   #64 
  - +1  JoePhilly   Apr-04-11 04:07 PM   #74 
  - Explaining plain reality is not political terrorism. Just because you feel an argument is  BzaDem   Apr-04-11 03:39 PM   #68 
  - When the "or else" is Michelle Bachmann  Arkana   Apr-04-11 03:45 PM   #69 
  - Most people probably don't require that, but if you do, OK  treestar   Apr-04-11 04:02 PM   #71 
  - if you don't vote for obama, lyndon larouche will become president.  BOG PERSON   Apr-04-11 04:05 PM   #73 
  - Well, I don't take the "or else" as a threat, more like a fear-mongering tactic  TK421   Apr-04-11 04:14 PM   #78 
  - I agree but it depends on the "or Else"  TNLib   Apr-04-11 04:16 PM   #79 
  - Is there really anyone currently even thinking about running that you would consider moderate?  BzaDem   Apr-04-11 04:39 PM   #83 
  - Not much of a campaign slogan is it?  slay   Apr-04-11 08:35 PM   #84 
  - Yes, every reason to vote for Obama boils down to "or else"  killbotfactory   Apr-04-11 08:43 PM   #85 
  - "Or else, GOP will cut Social Security, COLA's, give tax breaks to wealthy" ... ???  defendandprotect   Apr-04-11 08:48 PM   #86 
  - Yes, it probably will. It's the "2012: Where else you gonna go, bitch?" campaign. nt  ProgressIn2008   Apr-04-11 08:52 PM   #87 
  - Basically.  readmoreoften   Apr-04-11 11:05 PM   #96 
  - Obamacare was the biggest betrayal of the poor in our nation's history  Chris_Texas   Apr-04-11 08:53 PM   #88 
  - no matter how you feel about Obama, the Republican Nazi party is worse  liberal life   Apr-04-11 10:52 PM   #90 
  - Living in an iron lung is better than ebola. But why can't I have a life?  readmoreoften   Apr-04-11 11:02 PM   #93 
  - Actually, since you brought that  BlueIris   Apr-04-11 10:55 PM   #91 
  - not necessarily, but either way the elite win  tahrir   Apr-04-11 11:04 PM   #94 
  - The choice is ample  somone   Apr-04-11 11:10 PM   #97 
  - That's honestly their best argument.  Union Scribe   Apr-04-11 11:12 PM   #98 
  - I think it will. We have no other choice. It's similar to  Liquorice   Apr-04-11 11:14 PM   #99 
  - Whole lot of condescending going on here...  davidthegnome   Apr-04-11 11:54 PM   #102 
  - "Or else" is an idle threat.  Lucian   Apr-04-11 11:57 PM   #103 
  - This may be the first election I don't bother to vote in.  alarimer   Apr-05-11 12:06 AM   #106 
  - No. He's going to lose in 2012.  JVS   Apr-05-11 12:11 AM   #107 
  - They are going to beat him over the head with......  Sivart   Apr-05-11 09:44 AM   #110 
  - Let me ask that of you in another way  dmallind   Apr-05-11 08:41 AM   #109 
  - What a cute kitty.  lonestarnot   Apr-05-11 09:51 AM   #111 

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