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Mon Apr-04-11 01:46 PM
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| 55. Obama didn't listen???? Where have you been??? |
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Edited on Mon Apr-04-11 01:46 PM by Motown_Johnny
The (R)s shut down the government over those tax cuts! He wants them repealed and said so at the time. He bargained away a 2 year extension for other concessions. Those tax rates will be front and center in the 2012 campaign. Both sides want to run on them. That is why both agreed to have the extension expire on Jan. 1, 2013. If we had one more vote in the Senate they would be gone. It isn't like he didn't try and repeal them. If you really don't know what has been accomplished under President Obama maybe you should watch this short video (again?). http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908 Near the end she gives a pretty nice little laundry list of things that have gotten done in the last couple of years. |
| -Is "or else" really going to get Obama re-elected? |
NightWatcher |
Apr-04-11 12:42 PM |
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Or Else? Governor Walker. |
FSogol |
Apr-04-11 12:43 PM |
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Recommend |
xchrom |
Apr-04-11 12:44 PM |
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Who else? n/t |
Autumn |
Apr-04-11 12:44 PM |
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Mitt, Newt, Huck, Michelle, Tim, etc. |
progressoid |
Apr-04-11 01:06 PM |
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That would be the point I made. |
Autumn |
Apr-04-11 01:08 PM |
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Oh I donno, I could see voting for Michelle Bachmann, |
progressoid |
Apr-04-11 01:38 PM |
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Someone would have to use my rotting fingers off |
Autumn |
Apr-04-11 01:39 PM |
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yes |
Odious justice |
Apr-04-11 12:44 PM |
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Depending on if there is a primary... |
Ohio Joe |
Apr-04-11 12:44 PM |
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States like WI, OH, IN, and FL will be interesting. Usually local elections ride on the national - |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-04-11 12:44 PM |
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Assuming the dictators of those states allow fair elections. |
rucky |
Apr-04-11 12:59 PM |
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Yes it is. |
Democracyinkind |
Apr-04-11 12:46 PM |
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go ahead and teach him a lesson. It worked so well in 2010. |
ReturnoftheDjedi |
Apr-04-11 12:47 PM |
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Yup, the youth, minorities, Obamacans, and "centrists" sure taught a message. |
TheKentuckian |
Apr-04-11 12:55 PM |
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Obama is where he is because he has been successful. |
Solomon |
Apr-04-11 01:00 PM |
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+1 n/t |
JTFrog |
Apr-04-11 01:21 PM |
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Very successful! |
Dawgs |
Apr-04-11 01:40 PM |
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Failures like Bush, Hoover, and Reagan all were elected. Some multiple times. |
TheKentuckian |
Apr-04-11 01:55 PM |
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"successful" to whom? |
druidity33 |
Apr-04-11 02:41 PM |
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Success by what definition? George W. Bush won re-election. That's a low standard to beat. |
Selatius |
Apr-05-11 12:06 AM |
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No flames from me. |
CaliforniaPeggy |
Apr-04-11 12:48 PM |
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Barack Obama, Michelle Bachmann...you decide |
Hugabear |
Apr-04-11 12:48 PM |
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motivate with the carrot, not the stick |
NightWatcher |
Apr-04-11 12:51 PM |
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Just a hunch... |
Skinner |
Apr-04-11 12:48 PM |
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My call for slogan is "lasting change" |
ixion |
Apr-04-11 12:50 PM |
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He is talking about a lot of posters here on DU Skinner. |
Rex |
Apr-04-11 04:17 PM |
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No, actually, the overwhelming support by Democrats for the |
MineralMan |
Apr-04-11 12:49 PM |
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"don't confuse me with the facts" n/t |
emulatorloo |
Apr-04-11 01:04 PM |
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+1 |
FLPanhandle |
Apr-04-11 01:15 PM |
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k/r |
ixion |
Apr-04-11 12:49 PM |
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It shouldn't even need to be said. The "or else" is obvious. |
MineralMan |
Apr-04-11 12:51 PM |
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Of course we fear the GOP ... they'd keep the wars going, attack public education, Social Security.. |
defendandprotect |
Apr-04-11 08:54 PM |
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Not in my case |
Egnever |
Apr-04-11 12:53 PM |
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its exactly the argument that the other side is going to use to get out heir voters |
onenote |
Apr-04-11 12:53 PM |
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I would like to be the first to propose a name for the 2012 Republican movement |
RZM |
Apr-04-11 01:42 PM |
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Exactly - and Republicans don't sit around claiming they aren't |
treestar |
Apr-04-11 04:03 PM |
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he can run on his record, that isn't an "or else" proposition |
Motown_Johnny |
Apr-04-11 12:54 PM |
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I think it's highly unlikely he'll lose. |
cali |
Apr-04-11 12:55 PM |
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It won't have to. n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Apr-04-11 12:55 PM |
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That's how he hopes to keep the Left while he simultanously courts the Center/Right with... |
Poll_Blind |
Apr-04-11 12:55 PM |
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My vote will be given with no strings attached. |
jaxx |
Apr-04-11 01:02 PM |
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I'll be voting for him as, at minimum, a talented place-holder. |
FredStembottom |
Apr-04-11 01:02 PM |
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Apparently so. |
Safetykitten |
Apr-04-11 01:02 PM |
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I think you are out of touch. Apr 3, Obama approval among Dems = 80% |
emulatorloo |
Apr-04-11 01:03 PM |
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Remind me again what Obama is doing in Wisc, OH, Ind ????? |
daa |
Apr-04-11 01:27 PM |
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remind me again what power he has over state issues? |
Motown_Johnny |
Apr-04-11 01:39 PM |
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Exactly what he should be - letting *US* handle it and not making it about him. |
PeaceNikki |
Apr-04-11 01:42 PM |
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Kucinich has been absent too, and OH is his home state! |
apples and oranges |
Apr-05-11 12:12 AM |
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Many, many people are now former dems |
zalinda |
Apr-04-11 01:36 PM |
#42 |
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Obama didn't listen???? Where have you been??? |
Motown_Johnny |
Apr-04-11 01:46 PM |
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Sorry, but none of that translates to those of us |
zalinda |
Apr-04-11 04:00 PM |
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What are they now, Republicans??? |
JoePhilly |
Apr-04-11 04:08 PM |
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Of course not. The dem party left them, not the other way around. |
zalinda |
Apr-05-11 12:00 AM |
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Which, all told, is irrelevant on election day. The current numbers aren't enough to re-elect him. |
Xithras |
Apr-04-11 02:54 PM |
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Trying to use polling when there isn't a Republican candidate yet will not work. |
jeff47 |
Apr-04-11 03:16 PM |
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Good points. |
emulatorloo |
Apr-04-11 03:31 PM |
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That may be the worst use of polling data I've ever seen at DU |
onenote |
Apr-04-11 04:11 PM |
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Lol, I know, I was just responding to its use upthread. |
Xithras |
Apr-04-11 04:32 PM |
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Then, we're pretty useless.... |
MrMickeysMom |
Apr-04-11 11:17 PM |
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Polls mean nothing. |
Lucian |
Apr-04-11 11:21 PM |
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I guess it works on me. If I vote in CO I will vote for him, if I vote in CT then I won't. |
Exultant Democracy |
Apr-04-11 01:05 PM |
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Yes |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Apr-04-11 01:09 PM |
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It's an effective strategy for reaching the grown ups in the room... |
ecstatic |
Apr-04-11 01:14 PM |
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LOL |
Solomon |
Apr-04-11 02:21 PM |
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I think in 2008 a shit-ton of folk voted FOR Obama..in 2012 they'll be voting AGAINST whichever... |
truebrit71 |
Apr-04-11 01:14 PM |
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+1. There will be a lot of votes for President Placeholder. n/t |
gkhouston |
Apr-04-11 01:50 PM |
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I'm okay with that... |
tallahasseedem |
Apr-04-11 03:35 PM |
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I suspect that in 2008 a shit-ton of folks voted against 8 years of repub mismanagement |
onenote |
Apr-04-11 04:13 PM |
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2008 spoiled us |
Keith Bee |
Apr-04-11 01:14 PM |
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"Or, else" and "Not as bad" is a "no sale" for me. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Apr-04-11 01:29 PM |
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+1 |
emilyg |
Apr-04-11 01:40 PM |
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On the other hand it works fine for the other side |
onenote |
Apr-04-11 04:17 PM |
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+1. I don't respond well to threats and intimidation. |
readmoreoften |
Apr-04-11 10:58 PM |
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I think there's plenty of reasons beyond "or else" to vote for him in 2012 though. |
NYC Liberal |
Apr-04-11 01:38 PM |
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I don't think this is all that unusual |
RZM |
Apr-04-11 01:39 PM |
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"Re-Elect POTUS: Because Wall Street needs more money!!!" |
Myrina |
Apr-04-11 01:42 PM |
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Bernanke/Summers 2012 vs Chase/Goldman Sachs 2012 |
readmoreoften |
Apr-04-11 11:04 PM |
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It's the ONLY reason I'll be voting for him this time. |
Dawgs |
Apr-04-11 01:42 PM |
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Someone else already said it..... |
Sivart |
Apr-04-11 01:55 PM |
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The threat works on me. |
LiberalAndProud |
Apr-04-11 01:44 PM |
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future SCOTUS |
shanti |
Apr-04-11 01:48 PM |
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It might happen but I can promise you one thing |
tech9413 |
Apr-04-11 02:39 PM |
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Or else has to be used on a small minority,only. |
Swede |
Apr-04-11 02:58 PM |
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+1 |
JoePhilly |
Apr-04-11 04:07 PM |
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Explaining plain reality is not political terrorism. Just because you feel an argument is |
BzaDem |
Apr-04-11 03:39 PM |
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When the "or else" is Michelle Bachmann |
Arkana |
Apr-04-11 03:45 PM |
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Most people probably don't require that, but if you do, OK |
treestar |
Apr-04-11 04:02 PM |
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if you don't vote for obama, lyndon larouche will become president. |
BOG PERSON |
Apr-04-11 04:05 PM |
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Well, I don't take the "or else" as a threat, more like a fear-mongering tactic |
TK421 |
Apr-04-11 04:14 PM |
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I agree but it depends on the "or Else" |
TNLib |
Apr-04-11 04:16 PM |
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Is there really anyone currently even thinking about running that you would consider moderate? |
BzaDem |
Apr-04-11 04:39 PM |
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Not much of a campaign slogan is it? |
slay |
Apr-04-11 08:35 PM |
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Yes, every reason to vote for Obama boils down to "or else" |
killbotfactory |
Apr-04-11 08:43 PM |
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"Or else, GOP will cut Social Security, COLA's, give tax breaks to wealthy" ... ??? |
defendandprotect |
Apr-04-11 08:48 PM |
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Yes, it probably will. It's the "2012: Where else you gonna go, bitch?" campaign. nt |
ProgressIn2008 |
Apr-04-11 08:52 PM |
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Basically. |
readmoreoften |
Apr-04-11 11:05 PM |
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Obamacare was the biggest betrayal of the poor in our nation's history |
Chris_Texas |
Apr-04-11 08:53 PM |
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no matter how you feel about Obama, the Republican Nazi party is worse |
liberal life |
Apr-04-11 10:52 PM |
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Living in an iron lung is better than ebola. But why can't I have a life? |
readmoreoften |
Apr-04-11 11:02 PM |
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Actually, since you brought that up...no. |
BlueIris |
Apr-04-11 10:55 PM |
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not necessarily, but either way the elite win |
tahrir |
Apr-04-11 11:04 PM |
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The choice is ample |
somone |
Apr-04-11 11:10 PM |
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That's honestly their best argument. |
Union Scribe |
Apr-04-11 11:12 PM |
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I think it will. We have no other choice. It's similar to |
Liquorice |
Apr-04-11 11:14 PM |
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Whole lot of condescending going on here... |
davidthegnome |
Apr-04-11 11:54 PM |
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"Or else" is an idle threat. |
Lucian |
Apr-04-11 11:57 PM |
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This may be the first election I don't bother to vote in. |
alarimer |
Apr-05-11 12:06 AM |
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No. He's going to lose in 2012. |
JVS |
Apr-05-11 12:11 AM |
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They are going to beat him over the head with...... |
Sivart |
Apr-05-11 09:44 AM |
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Let me ask that of you in another way |
dmallind |
Apr-05-11 08:41 AM |
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What a cute kitty. |
lonestarnot |
Apr-05-11 09:51 AM |
#111 |
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