Warren DeMontague
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Mon Apr-04-11 01:14 PM
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| 108. Nothing to worry about! SQUACK! Nothing to worry about! SQUACK! |
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 Now, can we please get back to serious problems, like the justified anger of people whose favorite book got burned half a planet away, or the terrible threat posed by pictures of naked and semi-naked women on tv and the internet? |
| -Radioactive Iodine-131 in rainwater sample near San Francisco 18,100% above federal drinking water s |
Generic Other |
Apr-03-11 01:11 PM |
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Some DUers won't like this thread. |
Liberal_in_LA |
Apr-03-11 01:13 PM |
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Why? I'm scared...I want to be reassured |
Generic Other |
Apr-03-11 01:17 PM |
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They don't think the situation is dangerous. |
Liberal_in_LA |
Apr-03-11 01:27 PM |
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Looking @ NUC Berkeley website I can't find this. Could be false reporting |
uppityperson |
Apr-03-11 01:31 PM |
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This level is much lower than our rain water measurements by a factor of approximately 300 |
Generic Other |
Apr-03-11 01:39 PM |
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Looking @ dates, all I can figure. I've been wrong before but can't find any other data |
uppityperson |
Apr-03-11 01:43 PM |
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I found this vis Bay Citizen. Off to check the UCB link (note 0.111 becquerels/Liter) |
uppityperson |
Apr-03-11 01:47 PM |
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I hope it is a mismeasurement but |
nc4bo |
Apr-03-11 01:49 PM |
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Indeed. Here is NUC Berkeley sampling page, links to several sampling things. |
uppityperson |
Apr-03-11 01:51 PM |
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i don't like the fact you don't have recent (continual) data... |
abqmufc |
Apr-04-11 11:34 AM |
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Me too... |
CoffeeCat |
Apr-03-11 03:29 PM |
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Yeah, I thought it was odd that the state of Mass. was releasing rainwater results |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-04-11 01:17 PM |
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Not sure if it differs, but tap water versus rainwater. |
abqmufc |
Apr-04-11 10:40 AM |
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Reassurance won't work with me. But I'll have to take it as it comes. No escape, anyway. |
freshwest |
Apr-03-11 07:32 PM |
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Yep--I have been called "nutty" for asking questions about Seattle and our 2 weeks of solid rain-- |
Mrs. Overall |
Apr-04-11 08:57 AM |
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Actually that blast of wet weather that I had to ride my bike through this morning |
AtheistCrusader |
Apr-04-11 10:27 AM |
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1 |
cppuddy |
Apr-04-11 01:08 PM |
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holy shit. |
inna |
Apr-03-11 01:18 PM |
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I would now,for the first time,advise all in that area to talk to a doctor about potassium iodide |
stockholmer |
Apr-03-11 01:18 PM |
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18 *THOUSAND* percent above normal/safe. Right in my area. |
inna |
Apr-03-11 01:21 PM |
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that was a comma...I thought that looked odd too |
Generic Other |
Apr-03-11 01:40 PM |
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Here is link with links to what they checked and results. |
uppityperson |
Apr-03-11 01:55 PM |
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THis is what ticks me off |
Mojorabbit |
Apr-03-11 03:32 PM |
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We think alike |
tavalon |
Apr-03-11 07:54 PM |
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Oh dear. |
nc4bo |
Apr-03-11 01:19 PM |
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The same way you filter out the other stuff. |
hobbit709 |
Apr-03-11 01:22 PM |
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Great |
BeFree |
Apr-03-11 01:25 PM |
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ZERO! |
hobbit709 |
Apr-03-11 01:28 PM |
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If things don't get under control, that Iodine-131 will not be the only |
nc4bo |
Apr-03-11 01:35 PM |
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And therein lies the problem. Any I131 that reaches us here will be |
kestrel91316 |
Apr-03-11 02:43 PM |
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The media keeps indicating that those won't be an issue because they are so heavy... |
AtheistCrusader |
Apr-04-11 10:29 AM |
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I keep hearing reports of testing this and that but what's lacking is |
nc4bo |
Apr-03-11 01:31 PM |
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Zeolites |
shockra |
Apr-03-11 11:30 PM |
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Thanks for that shockra, had no idea but it's definitely good to know. |
nc4bo |
Apr-04-11 09:30 AM |
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And so it begins |
ixion |
Apr-03-11 01:23 PM |
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I don't like this thread |
gimama |
Apr-03-11 01:24 PM |
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My problem is I don't understand half of what is being discussed |
Generic Other |
Apr-03-11 01:30 PM |
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ha! I'm right there with ya.. |
gimama |
Apr-03-11 05:57 PM |
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Have you seen the videos from Arnie Gundersen? |
axollot |
Apr-04-11 08:44 AM |
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Plain and blunt! And scary as hell! |
Generic Other |
Apr-04-11 08:51 AM |
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Have you another backup source? I'd like to read more from another place also |
uppityperson |
Apr-03-11 01:28 PM |
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I don't know anything about the website |
Generic Other |
Apr-03-11 01:31 PM |
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NYTimes link goes to a bay area search, only Berkeley references are guns and repubs. |
uppityperson |
Apr-03-11 01:33 PM |
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Since the article is 3/31, it is referencing UCN Berkeley tests that show minimal, not that much |
uppityperson |
Apr-03-11 01:35 PM |
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I appreciate you investigating |
Generic Other |
Apr-03-11 01:37 PM |
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Thank you for posting this also. I don't see how they arrived at those figures. |
uppityperson |
Apr-03-11 01:38 PM |
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NUC Berkeley website doesn't show this as of last post. |
uppityperson |
Apr-03-11 01:29 PM |
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I am far more worried about the plant at Mt Diablo than an isotope w/ a half life of 8 days |
Book Lover |
Apr-03-11 01:31 PM |
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How long has this thing been leaking now? |
nc4bo |
Apr-03-11 01:33 PM |
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I can understand that |
Generic Other |
Apr-03-11 01:36 PM |
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At 13,100% it takes 120 days for the water sampled to become safe. |
JVS |
Apr-03-11 01:53 PM |
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Do you mean Diablo Canyon? That's not near Mt. Diablo. |
Gormy Cuss |
Apr-03-11 05:28 PM |
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Obviously it's time to revise the federal drinking water standard. |
Octafish |
Apr-03-11 01:34 PM |
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+1. No better way to prevent panic. As soon as people learn preemptive chemotherapy |
Karmadillo |
Apr-03-11 01:46 PM |
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LOL, so true. But what's the benchmark? |
upi402 |
Apr-03-11 01:51 PM |
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Yes, maybe the people will thank the... |
CoffeeCat |
Apr-03-11 03:33 PM |
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Yikes... They probably would do this.... |
midnight |
Apr-04-11 10:32 AM |
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If you want a water filter system that filters radiation particles and is used by the Red Cross |
in_cog_ni_to |
Apr-03-11 01:38 PM |
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Yeah, I've got that in my cart. It looks outstanding... |
ixion |
Apr-03-11 02:21 PM |
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Unless they get the Japan Nuclear reactors under control, |
in_cog_ni_to |
Apr-03-11 03:20 PM |
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Thanks just purchased one. |
bahrbearian |
Apr-03-11 02:27 PM |
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You're welcome. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Apr-03-11 03:17 PM |
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I have this one |
Mojorabbit |
Apr-03-11 03:39 PM |
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Nice. I bought the other one just because the product information said in filtered radiation |
in_cog_ni_to |
Apr-03-11 04:48 PM |
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The problem is that we absorb more toxins through our skin while showering |
Lorien |
Apr-04-11 10:24 AM |
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Ok, I tried my best to track this down |
suffragette |
Apr-03-11 01:54 PM |
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That is what I'm finding also. A high report on 3/23 and low before/since. |
uppityperson |
Apr-03-11 01:56 PM |
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I am wondering about this in conjunction with the air monitors |
suffragette |
Apr-03-11 02:19 PM |
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some primary links for this story (including sampling methodology from UC Berkeley) |
stockholmer |
Apr-03-11 01:59 PM |
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Looks like the same info I'm finding, a peak on 3/23 from NUC Berkeley, and a NYT article |
uppityperson |
Apr-03-11 02:01 PM |
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roger that,this is just so unpredictable due to bio-accumulation,size of injurious dose & randomness |
stockholmer |
Apr-03-11 02:10 PM |
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Ok, if I am reading this correctly, we had a one-day spike |
suffragette |
Apr-03-11 02:22 PM |
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you need toisten to this dude ...he knows of what he speaks.... |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Apr-03-11 11:58 PM |
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Thanks! |
suffragette |
Apr-04-11 02:50 AM |
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Original Article Here (From 3/31/11): |
WillyT |
Apr-03-11 02:15 PM |
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My virus protection software is blocking this site |
Matariki |
Apr-03-11 02:31 PM |
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Looks like they have a bunch of ads. Go to the NUC Berkeley website for direct info |
uppityperson |
Apr-03-11 02:49 PM |
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Oh great! |
Generic Other |
Apr-03-11 03:00 PM |
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I find it interesting the UC Berekely is on top of this, but the EPA isn't. |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-03-11 03:44 PM |
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This is not "reassurance spin", but I've been doing a lot of reading about this past couple days |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-03-11 04:18 PM |
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The levels are still very very low. |
Spider Jerusalem |
Apr-03-11 04:34 PM |
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When this event first occurred... |
hayu_lol |
Apr-03-11 05:06 PM |
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striking that they got the numbers so wrong |
Yo_Mama |
Apr-03-11 05:34 PM |
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I'd start mothballing our nukes and switch to wind. |
grahamhgreen |
Apr-04-11 10:55 AM |
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according to UC berkley |
rdking647 |
Apr-03-11 05:46 PM |
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Bad news, good news, bad news. |
caseymoz |
Apr-03-11 10:40 PM |
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Uranium and plutonium are physically heavy elements. Thus, |
closeupready |
Apr-04-11 09:48 AM |
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So's iodine!! So is strontium! You're measuring this in atomic units. |
caseymoz |
Apr-04-11 10:53 AM |
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You may be right - I am not a physicist and flunked chemistry, lol. |
closeupready |
Apr-04-11 11:10 AM |
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We are all Fukushima -- |
defendandprotect |
Apr-03-11 11:33 PM |
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Name removed |
Apr-03-11 11:38 PM |
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Kick |
grahamhgreen |
Apr-03-11 11:59 PM |
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Who needs water, anyway? |
defendandprotect |
Apr-04-11 12:15 AM |
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This could ruin someone's weekend. nt |
WheelWalker |
Apr-04-11 12:32 AM |
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...Holy shit... |
Paradoxical |
Apr-04-11 01:18 AM |
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KNR! n/t |
indimuse |
Apr-04-11 07:13 AM |
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I can't find any other verification of this claim. |
progressoid |
Apr-04-11 07:26 AM |
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Found this... |
theglammistress |
Apr-04-11 08:42 AM |
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Send Ann Coulter over to sample the water |
NewJeffCT |
Apr-04-11 08:14 AM |
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Yeah, it is raining here today (midwest) and it is the maximum we'll probably get |
jimlup |
Apr-04-11 09:59 AM |
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Why not just 181-times normal? That's a 18,000% increase, not 18,100%. Sorry. nt |
thereismore |
Apr-04-11 10:04 AM |
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! |
L0oniX |
Apr-04-11 10:07 AM |
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Looking at the Berkeley site, there was one spike on March 23, otherwise it wasn't as bad. nt |
thereismore |
Apr-04-11 10:13 AM |
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This really worries me. |
avaistheone1 |
Apr-04-11 10:22 AM |
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Holy shit! n/t |
FourScore |
Apr-04-11 10:27 AM |
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Unbelieveable. And the government will just let this happen. |
Xenotime |
Apr-04-11 10:35 AM |
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I-131 HALF LIFE IS ONLY 8.02 DAYS ..nothing to worry about.. or something.. n/t |
yodermon |
Apr-04-11 10:43 AM |
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Why are AQ models not being used to determine key locations to sample air and water in the USA? |
abqmufc |
Apr-04-11 11:43 AM |
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Yeah. Odd, isn't it? |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-04-11 04:50 PM |
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Nothing to worry about! SQUACK! Nothing to worry about! SQUACK! |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-04-11 01:14 PM |
#108 |
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