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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-11 07:14 PM
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39. There are disabled people who can't get out easily.
We PAY for the MAIL, we pay for Social Security.

Now the government cuts costs on the backs of the elderly.

Keep defending the plutocracy, Peacetrain. Not all 82 year olds -or even 62 year olds- are mobile.
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  -I am retired now, I did not get my SS report this year.. and you know what Peacetrain  Apr-02-11 06:25 PM   #0 
  - And all those people that do not have computers?  RC   Apr-02-11 06:34 PM   #1 
  - I live in a small town in the midwest.. and everyone in town has access  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 06:36 PM   #2 
  - It is not always the point that there is access, it is the fact that a lot of older  madinmaryland   Apr-02-11 06:39 PM   #4 
  - Again.. access is as close as the library. Even the very elderly  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 06:43 PM   #8 
  - The point is not that. There are some people who actually have no clue  madinmaryland   Apr-02-11 06:49 PM   #14 
     - I know I hear you..  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 06:53 PM   #17 
     - You know what is funny, is that my Dad probably already knows about this.  madinmaryland   Apr-02-11 07:01 PM   #29 
        - You can..  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 07:09 PM   #35 
           - "In light of the current budget situation, we have suspended issuing Social Security Statements. "  spooky3   Apr-02-11 10:29 PM   #141 
     - My MIL is 96 and lives in a nursing home. In one of the activity/meeting rooms  Obamanaut   Apr-02-11 08:30 PM   #111 
  - My father only has bad memories of computers from  Ilsa   Apr-02-11 06:45 PM   #10 
     - So many families I worked with Ilsa, had no address..no home, no place  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 06:52 PM   #16 
  - Please post the name of the town, so everyone can move there.  bobbolink   Apr-02-11 07:53 PM   #74 
  - Sooner or later, society has to move on.  TheWraith   Apr-02-11 06:37 PM   #3 
  - Yep. We can't cater to every outlier of modern society. nt  Modern_Matthew   Apr-02-11 06:42 PM   #7 
  - And economically strapped families that move a lot..  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 06:40 PM   #6 
  - +1 Holding onto relics of the past when there's better alternatives just makes no sense to me. nt  Modern_Matthew   Apr-02-11 06:39 PM   #5 
  - It was on a DU post earlier today  Omaha Steve   Apr-02-11 06:45 PM   #9 
  - If that is the kind of cuts that the Democrats have agreed to .. I am okay with that  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 06:47 PM   #13 
  - I just got mine yesterday in the mail  Sherman A1   Apr-02-11 06:56 PM   #20 
     - To be honest with you.. I do not know when or if it will start.. I am just responding  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 07:06 PM   #32 
  - Out of sight out of mind..  Fumesucker   Apr-02-11 06:46 PM   #11 
  - This has been done for the last 10 of 70+ years  SpartanDem   Apr-02-11 06:55 PM   #18 
  - By itself, no, but but it together with a lot of other political trends..  Fumesucker   Apr-02-11 07:39 PM   #61 
  - Actually, this is a HUGE step in getting rid of a lot of POOR PEOPLE.  bobbolink   Apr-02-11 07:54 PM   #78 
  - Although I think this is a good idea, I do have a problem  Curmudgeoness   Apr-02-11 06:47 PM   #12 
  - That is another problem I see. I had not heard anything about this until  madinmaryland   Apr-02-11 06:56 PM   #22 
     - Yeah, exactly  katnapped   Apr-02-11 06:59 PM   #24 
     - Good point. They probably decided it wasn't such a good idea  Curmudgeoness   Apr-02-11 07:47 PM   #67 
     - Here you go..  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 07:00 PM   #26 
        - Huh? I didn't even know they had a web site!!  madinmaryland   Apr-02-11 07:04 PM   #30 
           - That is how I applied for my SS.. I retired early and took early SS.. but  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 07:08 PM   #33 
  - In all honesty, it's not doing much to save the environment.  Exilednight   Apr-02-11 06:50 PM   #15 
  - Well lets say postage.. just postage.. hmm that is going to be some bucks  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 06:56 PM   #21 
  - Your savings becomes completely void once the government starts  Exilednight   Apr-02-11 07:10 PM   #36 
     - The computer is at the senior center now.. it is at the library now  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 07:15 PM   #40 
     - Well, that's great for where you are, but not everyone has that luxury. n/t  Exilednight   Apr-02-11 07:18 PM   #42 
        - soo .. Grandma Louise has been collecting her SS for the last 11 years  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 07:23 PM   #45 
           - My mom collects SS, too. But she doesn't have a computer. She's technophobic  Exilednight   Apr-02-11 07:37 PM   #55 
              - Then this is not going to bother her one bit..  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 07:37 PM   #58 
                 - I'm just arguing that you're spreading a false argument. It's not better for the environment. n/t  Exilednight   Apr-02-11 07:40 PM   #63 
                    - Actually paper and food packaging is the biggest part of the landfill..  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 07:44 PM   #66 
                       - Paper is not nearly as damaging as the chemicals in a computer, not to mention  Exilednight   Apr-02-11 07:48 PM   # 
                          - So are you using a computer, a polluter computer?  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 07:51 PM   #72 
                             - Yes, I am. All computers are polluters. I'm not saying don't use computers, but your  Exilednight   Apr-02-11 07:55 PM   #79 
                                - Re read op.. nothing wrong with my argument.. if they are going to cut.  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 08:03 PM   #88 
                                   - I read your OP, and it's not even truthful. Anyways, have a goodnight. n/t  Exilednight   Apr-02-11 08:05 PM   #90 
                                      - I am retired, My mother is 82.. I did not get a report this year  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 08:13 PM   #94 
                                         - Alright, one last time, then I'm done. (Dr. Zhivago is on) You're not going to save any  Exilednight   Apr-02-11 08:26 PM   #108 
                                            - Well why did not not get mine? :)  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 08:28 PM   #110 
     - There is a more immediate cost. Many many people will now have to go to the office in person to get  bobbolink   Apr-02-11 08:02 PM   #86 
        - Nope. they go to the library. shelter, churches, friends. and a gazillion other  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 08:05 PM   #91 
        - I realize you think you know all about this, but you don't. This is about more than YOUR social  bobbolink   Apr-02-11 08:16 PM   #98 
           - Let me get this straight.. you are all for people who are making 30, 40 70 thousand  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 08:20 PM   #101 
              - Thank you for proving my point. You have now made it clear to those watching your words that you  bobbolink   Apr-02-11 08:22 PM   #102 
                 - Your point is what? inquiring minds would like to know  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 08:26 PM   #106 
                 - I stated it quite clearly, and you stated yours quite clearly. Whats neat is that your recs are 0.  bobbolink   Apr-02-11 08:44 PM   #125 
                    - I have no recs.. oh what will I do..what will I do..  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 08:53 PM   #136 
                 - of the 150 million+ mailers  Sheepshank   Apr-02-11 10:39 PM   #142 
        - These mailings are not used to prove anything. They're 'FYI' only  REP   Apr-02-11 10:45 PM   #143 
  - Computers are not built or bought for electronic notifications.  former9thward   Apr-02-11 07:00 PM   #27 
     - I've heard this argument before, but truth is, most people just use them for  Exilednight   Apr-02-11 07:05 PM   #31 
        - I guess we know different kinds of people.  former9thward   Apr-02-11 07:24 PM   #46 
  - Yeah, the government should not help the elderly when  Bluenorthwest   Apr-02-11 06:55 PM   #19 
  - Well having those reports mailed has only been happening for the last 10 years  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 06:58 PM   #23 
  - Yes, but you Mother as a retiree would not have gotten one  Bluenorthwest   Apr-02-11 07:09 PM   #34 
     - If she wants to look something up.. she can, and sometimes does  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 07:11 PM   #37 
     - The report that is not being sent was never sent to current  Bluenorthwest   Apr-02-11 07:27 PM   #47 
        - Facts are facts.. Retired people still access information on their Social Security.  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 07:36 PM   #53 
     - Also, when people pass away, the social security will change for  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 07:13 PM   #38 
        - Sure, they access information, just not the same information  Bluenorthwest   Apr-02-11 07:32 PM   #50 
           - My OP  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 07:36 PM   #54 
  - It shouldn't be the government, it should be the churches. Where have we heard that before, eh?  bobbolink   Apr-02-11 08:26 PM   #107 
  - How very nice for you.  EFerrari   Apr-02-11 07:00 PM   #25 
  - Yes it is nice for me.. I love it.. thank you  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 07:01 PM   #28 
     - And that is all that counts. Thank you for making that clear.  bobbolink   Apr-02-11 08:24 PM   #104 
        - You hang out with teabaggers? You better watch that  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 08:31 PM   #113 
           - YEs, sadly, when I come to DU, I often find them and/or their mentality.  bobbolink   Apr-02-11 08:37 PM   #117 
  - There are disabled people who can't get out easily.  Mimosa   Apr-02-11 07:14 PM   #39 
  - The retired do not really need the reports..we did not have them 10 years ago  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 07:19 PM   #43 
     - Why should people at the bottom have to choose between scraps?  Mimosa   Apr-02-11 07:38 PM   #60 
        - Sooooo.. how are people at the bottom getting scraps by accessing informtion online?  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 07:40 PM   #62 
           - Because many people aren't online.  Mimosa   Apr-02-11 07:41 PM   #64 
              - Mimosa.. being able to access their beneficary report on line is a benefit for the poor  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 07:48 PM   #68 
                 - Why not have both options of mail and internet? n/t  Mimosa   Apr-02-11 07:55 PM   #80 
                    - If cutting this will save money for EHS etc.. cut this.. we did not have it 10 years ago  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 07:58 PM   #84 
  - Most elderly people I know do NOT have computers.  Mimosa   Apr-02-11 07:17 PM   #41 
  - So how do you think your elderly friends go their SS in the first place  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 07:20 PM   #44 
     - This is not what your OP says  Bluenorthwest   Apr-02-11 07:34 PM   #51 
     - Telephone.  Mimosa   Apr-02-11 07:35 PM   #52 
  - Stop bombing shit and we'll be able to keep all those programs -  TBF   Apr-02-11 07:30 PM   #48 
  - Save the trees!!11!  girl gone mad   Apr-02-11 07:31 PM   #49 
  - Trees are a renewable resource.  Mimosa   Apr-02-11 07:37 PM   #56 
     - My point is that if the OP is so worried about trees..  girl gone mad   Apr-02-11 08:12 PM   #93 
        - And the postage also.. I mean if they are looking for savings are not things  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 08:15 PM   #96 
  - You lost it  dems_rightnow   Apr-02-11 07:37 PM   #57 
  - Well I would not know.. I am retired..  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 07:38 PM   #59 
     - But in your OP you say  Bluenorthwest   Apr-02-11 07:48 PM   #69 
        - I didn't.. it was due in March, because my birthday is the first day of June..and I will not get it  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 07:57 PM   #82 
        - And I am all over that and for it if it will save programs for children ..  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 08:00 PM   #85 
  - I don't know the percentage, but MANY people who are 60-70+  BillyJack   Apr-02-11 07:43 PM   #65 
  - Billy Jack.. it is not about those of us retired already..  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 07:50 PM   #70 
  - Bombs are more important than making life easier for the working people?  Mimosa   Apr-02-11 07:52 PM   #73 
     - Lets see... I am promoting Early Head Start and EFNEP and you are talking bombs  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 07:54 PM   #77 
  - Well, whoopdeedooo.. Isn't it just grand that you have resources that many people DON'T have?  bobbolink   Apr-02-11 07:51 PM   #71 
  - Well bobolink.. I am grand, and wonderful, and happy as can be.  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 07:53 PM   #75 
  - Unlike so many, I understand some of the advantages that I have. The disadvantages I have  bobbolink   Apr-02-11 07:56 PM   #81 
     - Well families who are really in a situation that they do not have an address should be able  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 08:02 PM   #87 
        - Some can, some can't and many at GREAT COST both to themselves (which doesn't matter to so many here  bobbolink   Apr-02-11 08:04 PM   #89 
           - Go to the local SS office and they will look it up for free.  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 08:07 PM   #92 
              - And you just told me that people don't do this. Please, make up your mind.  bobbolink   Apr-02-11 08:18 PM   #99 
                 - Told you what? not to go to SS office.. where??  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 08:25 PM   #105 
  - Bobbolink, I know a few working people who can no longer afford internet access.  Mimosa   Apr-02-11 07:54 PM   #76 
     - The fact that you recognize it and are willing to care makes you a lot different from so many here.  bobbolink   Apr-02-11 07:57 PM   #83 
     - It makes NO difference to those collecting SS already since they didn't get these  REP   Apr-02-11 08:35 PM   #116 
     - I'm sure there are others as clever as she, who manages to post from her car  REP   Apr-02-11 08:47 PM   #129 
     - Beating up on homeless folks now -  TBF   Apr-03-11 03:52 PM   #144 
     - check with your city library- several  Bluerthanblue   Apr-02-11 09:39 PM   #138 
  - cheers!!  Snoutport   Apr-02-11 08:13 PM   #95 
  - Hi.!! Cheers to you also  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 08:15 PM   #97 
     - I believe, if this was a debate....you would have just won hands down.  Snoutport   Apr-02-11 08:19 PM   #100 
        - You know  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 08:22 PM   #103 
           - Its always a LOAD of fun when you can rile people up. That is what DU is for.  bobbolink   Apr-02-11 08:28 PM   #109 
              - What's to get riled about? I always thought these reports were a waste of money  REP   Apr-02-11 08:40 PM   #121 
                 - Exactly. If you can't rile people, why the hell go to DU?  bobbolink   Apr-02-11 08:41 PM   #123 
  - "Peace is more than the absence of war. It is the presence of Justice."  bobbolink   Apr-02-11 08:30 PM   #112 
  - ONCE YOU ARE COLLECTING SS, YOU NO LONGER GET THOSE YEARLY REPORTS ANYWAY  REP   Apr-02-11 08:32 PM   #114 
  - Exactly.. the whole point..  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 08:34 PM   #115 
     - I almost cannot believe how many are missing this point ... but that's Chinatown for you  REP   Apr-02-11 08:37 PM   #118 
     - I know..  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 08:39 PM   #119 
        - See below  REP   Apr-02-11 08:44 PM   #126 
     - Some day you MAY understand there ARE people who DO get them.. and NEED them.  bobbolink   Apr-02-11 08:40 PM   #120 
        - Explain. I get my 1099s in the mail - how am I different from other SS recipients?  REP   Apr-02-11 08:44 PM   #124 
        - Several people have "enlightened" you. Sorry it didn't take.  bobbolink   Apr-02-11 08:45 PM   #128 
           - No; you tried insulting me and that just doesn't work. Try harder.  REP   Apr-02-11 08:48 PM   #132 
        - I am retired.. I am not getting them.. My Mother is not getting them.. My op  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 08:45 PM   #127 
           - Yes, most of us "got it". Thats why your recs are ZERO.  bobbolink   Apr-02-11 08:47 PM   #130 
              - That is my fan club in action....  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 08:47 PM   #131 
              - More insults? Goodness.  REP   Apr-02-11 08:49 PM   #134 
              - I can get you a membership in the Peacetrain Fan Club.. You can unrec  Peacetrain   Apr-02-11 08:50 PM   #135 
  - Ditto! Oh, sorry, not supposed to say that here. dc  david13   Apr-02-11 08:40 PM   #122 
  - The thing is.. once they get rid of a paper trail...  lib2DaBone   Apr-02-11 08:48 PM   #133 
  - Nope...simply print your electronic annual earnings report out and keep it  rury   Apr-02-11 09:19 PM   #137 
  - how? that is such private information.  robinlynne   Apr-02-11 10:04 PM   #139 
  - Computers do not insure privacy.  JDPriestly   Apr-02-11 10:23 PM   #140 
 

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