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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-02-11 08:25 AM
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3. moral of the story
Edited on Sat Apr-02-11 08:25 AM by northernlights
Actions have consequences. Including exercising free speech, when exercised to a religious nutcase.

Nobody was harmed by my incident, yet I was detained by police.

Just like religious nutcase Jones' exercise of his "free speech" provoked other religious nutcases to murder. Yet Jones' hasn't yet been detained by police for questioning.

Why is Jones not held liable for the result of his free speech, which he was *warned* would provoke nuts to murder. He cannot claim he didn't know what he was doing.

Yet I was held liable for *my* exercise of free speech, trying to rid myself of a nuisance whom I had no way of knowing was a religious nutcase.

Oh, I forgot. Jones is a *Christian.* So he has not only freedom of speech, but freedom from liability for the obvious, forewarned consequences of his free speech.

Sorry, doesn't work for me. What's sauce for the goose should be sauce for the gander. If I'm held liable for consequences that result from my exercising my free speech, then so should Jones be held liable.
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  -Detained by the police for a joke northernlights  Apr-02-11 06:58 AM   #0 
  - She got the police involved  Aerows   Apr-02-11 07:15 AM   #1 
  - How are people supposed to know  pipi_k   Apr-02-11 07:55 AM   #2 
  - moral of the story  northernlights   Apr-02-11 08:25 AM   #3 
  - Life isn't fair  pipi_k   Apr-02-11 08:39 AM   #7 
  - yet Jones isn't held liable for *his* provocative speech  northernlights   Apr-02-11 08:51 AM   #11 
  - You STILL don't get it...  pipi_k   Apr-02-11 09:00 AM   #17 
     - I was detained for at least 20 minutes  northernlights   Apr-02-11 09:11 AM   #22 
        - So?  pipi_k   Apr-02-11 09:29 AM   #24 
           - wrong again. The police actually ended up apologizing to me  northernlights   Apr-02-11 10:18 AM   #30 
              - so they apologized...  pipi_k   Apr-02-11 10:53 AM   #36 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-02-11 08:57 AM   #12 
  - Terry Jones is guilty of burning a book, probably purchased by himself  Obamanaut   Apr-02-11 10:32 AM   #34 
     - my outrage is on the deliberate provocation of religious nutcases  northernlights   Apr-02-11 11:18 AM   #40 
        - No, the remark you made was not made *unwittingly.* You  Obamanaut   Apr-02-11 12:22 PM   #43 
           - actually, I believe I *did* suffer the consequences of my speech  northernlights   Apr-02-11 01:01 PM   #44 
              - You're trying to equate  pipi_k   Apr-02-11 01:37 PM   #48 
              - It might be time to simply get over it and move on. nt  Obamanaut   Apr-02-11 04:47 PM   #56 
                 - No kidding...this happened a couple of years ago, and is still an issue? n/t  pipi_k   Apr-03-11 10:22 AM   #60 
  - No, nobody who calls the police on someone who's not interested in  AlabamaLibrul   Apr-02-11 01:04 PM   #45 
     - How do you know that's why she called the police?  pipi_k   Apr-02-11 02:04 PM   #52 
  - That's kind of a 'fire in a theatre' statement.  Edweird   Apr-02-11 08:27 AM   #4 
  - You're free to express suicidal or depressed tendencies all you want.  joshcryer   Apr-02-11 08:29 AM   #5 
  - but *my* freedom of expression resulted in my being detained by police  northernlights   Apr-02-11 08:33 AM   #6 
     - If people were held liable for mistakingly seeking the well being of another...  joshcryer   Apr-02-11 08:41 AM   #8 
     - Yep, siccing the cops on someone is really helping them all right..  Fumesucker   Apr-02-11 08:47 AM   #10 
        - I would have preferred she not bring her religion in to it and left the cops out of it...  joshcryer   Apr-02-11 08:58 AM   #14 
           - Recall that the road to Hell is paved..  Fumesucker   Apr-02-11 04:58 PM   #57 
     - You don't get it  pipi_k   Apr-02-11 08:45 AM   #9 
        - Since when is walking down a private road "having a tantrum"  northernlights   Apr-02-11 08:57 AM   #13 
           - You were banging a stick on shit.  joshcryer   Apr-02-11 08:59 AM   #16 
           - I wasn't whaling away at shit  northernlights   Apr-02-11 10:21 AM   #31 
              - Here, again, is what you wrote...  pipi_k   Apr-02-11 11:00 AM   #37 
           - And how is anyone supposed to know  pipi_k   Apr-02-11 09:03 AM   #18 
              - that dead stick was breaking into pieces and I walked along the guardrail  northernlights   Apr-02-11 09:17 AM   #23 
                 - Hey, whatever...  pipi_k   Apr-02-11 09:35 AM   #25 
                    - No, NL does not have to watch what she's saying  BanzaiBonnie   Apr-02-11 02:44 PM   #54 
                       - OK let me word this a different way...  pipi_k   Apr-03-11 10:21 AM   #59 
  - Being questioned by the police is not a violation of your free speech.  alphafemale   Apr-02-11 08:58 AM   #15 
  - my free speech resulted in no harm to anybody  northernlights   Apr-02-11 09:07 AM   #19 
  - As I've said before you're dense as hell.  RedArmy300   Apr-02-11 09:08 AM   #20 
     - I don't think anyone here has said that the woman was acting rationally.  joshcryer   Apr-02-11 09:09 AM   #21 
     - Free speech doesn't come without consequences  pipi_k   Apr-02-11 09:44 AM   #26 
     - what makes you think Jones' consequences were unintended?  northernlights   Apr-02-11 10:23 AM   #33 
        - Some people just don't believe  pipi_k   Apr-02-11 11:04 AM   #38 
     - I've been questioned by police many times while exercising free speech.  alphafemale   Apr-02-11 09:50 AM   #27 
     - nobody said detention by the police is a violation of rights  northernlights   Apr-02-11 01:15 PM   #46 
        - It's my freedom of choice to do so.  alphafemale   Apr-02-11 01:55 PM   #50 
           - there is a large distance between bowing and kissing the feet of the Taliban and Al Qaeda  northernlights   Apr-02-11 02:03 PM   #51 
              - No. There's not. Either you stand up against religious insanity or you bow to it.  alphafemale   Apr-02-11 02:31 PM   #53 
     - ...wait. on second look. I'm what?  alphafemale   Apr-02-11 03:16 PM   #55 
  - Also, just wanted to point out...  pipi_k   Apr-02-11 10:08 AM   #28 
  - Bizarre story. nt  Doremus   Apr-02-11 10:13 AM   #29 
  - So was she a prostitute? Where I'm from the only people that ask if they can help you are  Shagbark Hickory   Apr-02-11 10:23 AM   #32 
  - Nobody was harmed  davidthegnome   Apr-02-11 10:33 AM   #35 
  - If you weren't arrested there's no real problem  treestar   Apr-02-11 11:13 AM   #39 
  - That's what I said earlier. Being questioned by police is not a violation of your rights.  alphafemale   Apr-02-11 01:37 PM   #47 
  - the police were apologetic, especially once they realized  northernlights   Apr-02-11 01:45 PM   #49 
  - "Officer, am I under arrest?"  Ikonoklast   Apr-02-11 12:09 PM   #41 
  - not under arrest and not free to go until they had permission from their supervisor  northernlights   Apr-02-11 12:13 PM   #42 
  - Jones burned a book.  JoeyT   Apr-03-11 07:34 AM   #58 
 

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