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Sat Apr-02-11 01:35 PM
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only reinforces my claim that the modern day Republican Party and American right wing is precisely fascist. They couldn't be more fascist in spirit if Mussolini himself were reincarnated and placed at the head of the movement.
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| -Fascism/Corporatism in the United States Today |
Time for change |
Apr-01-11 09:31 PM |
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All the threads I've been putting together for a while. Kudoes for posting this. |
freshwest |
Apr-01-11 09:37 PM |
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An excellent and well thought out post, thank you |
DJ13 |
Apr-01-11 09:43 PM |
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K&R....n/t |
unkachuck |
Apr-01-11 09:45 PM |
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it's strange seeing that illustration... |
fascisthunter |
Apr-05-11 04:20 PM |
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Thanks for this post. Keep up the fight against corporatism! |
MatthewStLouis |
Apr-01-11 10:07 PM |
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About time someone tell what fascism really is |
dontcallmebob |
Apr-02-11 01:22 AM |
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Umm, bob... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 02:25 AM |
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"Where's the brutal suppression of the opposition?" |
Time for change |
Apr-02-11 03:42 AM |
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"She just doesn't use the word "fascism" |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 08:24 AM |
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Fascism comes in stages and varying degrees |
Time for change |
Apr-02-11 08:40 AM |
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Bradley Manning has been charged with 22 crimes... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 08:45 AM |
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It's still brutal suppression |
Time for change |
Apr-02-11 08:54 AM |
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Apr-02-11 09:02 AM |
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Should civilians charged with 22 crimes, not necessarily violent ones, be treated as he has been? |
freshwest |
Apr-02-11 06:35 PM |
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Victims of brutal suppression by the chemical - pharmaceutical industry |
AikidoSoul |
Apr-03-11 10:29 AM |
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Look at Wisconsin for a foretaste |
Armstead |
Apr-02-11 09:06 AM |
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close your eyes can't happen here - alexander haig is near |
mdmc |
Apr-02-11 09:14 AM |
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Oppression has grown more sophisticated, sduderstadt. |
Octafish |
Apr-02-11 09:51 AM |
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Please present evidence that those opinions are... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 10:01 AM |
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One example are the connections between NAZIs and the Warren Commission, sduderstadt. |
Octafish |
Apr-02-11 10:14 AM |
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That's because... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 10:18 AM |
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Apr-02-11 10:17 AM |
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Apr-02-11 07:59 PM |
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Excellent point. nt |
Enthusiast |
Apr-02-11 02:05 PM |
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The "wow is me" state of mind can be invaluable if desire not to solve |
bluestate10 |
Apr-02-11 01:42 PM |
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Corporations have no feelings and act like psychopaths in that way. The GOP keeps |
applegrove |
Apr-01-11 10:32 PM |
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I'm Afraid the Only Way Out Is Revolution |
Demeter |
Apr-01-11 11:40 PM |
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Excellent. Thank you for all your work on this. |
OHdem10 |
Apr-02-11 12:06 AM |
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(Auto) K&R; saving this on my hard drive |
inna |
Apr-02-11 01:25 AM |
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Y'know, I watch Rachel Maddow... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 01:44 AM |
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ahem, check out who she works for. nt |
inna |
Apr-02-11 01:47 AM |
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Ahem... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 01:49 AM |
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No, Rachel is not a coward. The tactic used is used often on DU |
bluestate10 |
Apr-02-11 12:57 PM |
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Which makes my point n/t |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 12:58 PM |
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Typical, easy liberal dismissal tactic. |
bluestate10 |
Apr-02-11 12:53 PM |
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It is more important that she keep her job. She talks around it. |
OHdem10 |
Apr-02-11 02:10 AM |
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She also regularly bashes... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 02:22 AM |
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"Doesn't sound to me like she is afraid for her job." - LOL, have you heard of Keith Olbermann? nt |
inna |
Apr-02-11 02:27 AM |
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1st of all, we aren't talking about Olbermann... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 02:34 AM |
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Apr-02-11 02:44 AM |
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Apr-02-11 02:48 AM |
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Some people just argue |
Enthusiast |
Apr-02-11 08:38 AM |
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And, some of us argue on... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 08:40 AM |
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Sort of like what you're doing? nt |
bluestate10 |
Apr-02-11 01:05 PM |
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Yes. And to engage those that do it a waste of time. |
tekisui |
Apr-02-11 01:29 PM |
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Similarly Maddow could probably maintain a decent audience independent of MSNBC at this point. |
themadstork |
Apr-02-11 09:07 AM |
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Corporatism gets thrown around a lot in this forum. A shame because it's use detracts |
bluestate10 |
Apr-02-11 01:34 PM |
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Haha, nope. |
themadstork |
Apr-02-11 03:13 PM |
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Olbermann had become a prima donna. BTW, he quit over a |
bluestate10 |
Apr-02-11 01:03 PM |
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I disagree. Rachel Maddow does not talk around issues. |
bluestate10 |
Apr-02-11 01:00 PM |
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Nobody stays on national TV long saying America is fascist. |
baldguy |
Apr-02-11 06:22 AM |
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I don't think Rachel is a... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 08:15 AM |
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Nobody here says she is a coward, and you know it |
Time for change |
Apr-02-11 08:46 AM |
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This "argument" is a textbook example of... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 08:59 AM |
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The only difference between a far Left person and a teabagger |
bluestate10 |
Apr-02-11 01:09 PM |
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Apr-02-11 08:59 AM |
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Apr-02-11 08:59 AM |
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Exactly |
Enthusiast |
Apr-02-11 08:55 AM |
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No... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 10:35 AM |
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The governance being practiced |
Enthusiast |
Apr-02-11 11:53 AM |
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Maybe looking at a complete definition of... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 11:58 AM |
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You should read your own links. |
PufPuf23 |
Apr-02-11 12:43 PM |
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The information provided in your link |
Enthusiast |
Apr-02-11 01:35 PM |
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How about the... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 01:38 PM |
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There are other forms of |
Enthusiast |
Apr-02-11 02:00 PM |
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What is Fascism? |
olegramps |
Apr-04-11 09:27 AM |
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In the same way that some... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-04-11 10:38 AM |
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doesn't she work for a huge multinational corporation? |
mdmc |
Apr-02-11 09:23 AM |
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Explain how working for /GE/NBC/Comcast color what Maddow reports or opines? |
bluestate10 |
Apr-02-11 01:13 PM |
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Here you go. |
Octafish |
Apr-02-11 06:22 PM |
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1 |
mdmc |
Apr-02-11 08:49 PM |
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Boring stuff. Just wild fantasy again. nt |
bluestate10 |
Apr-02-11 11:35 PM |
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All sourced, unlike your opinions, bluestate10. |
Octafish |
Apr-03-11 01:51 AM |
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Octafish... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-03-11 02:50 AM |
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What does this have to do with... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-05-11 07:36 PM |
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she perhaps flip-flopped on her opinion of Tweety |
hfojvt |
Apr-03-11 11:22 AM |
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Spot on |
Mosaic |
Apr-03-11 07:54 AM |
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The men who died in WW2 apparently died for nothing... |
YellowRubberDuckie |
Apr-02-11 09:01 AM |
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William Greider is....... |
Armstead |
Apr-02-11 09:16 AM |
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Corporate Fascism with a strong dose of Greed pretty much sums up this country. |
sarcasmo |
Apr-02-11 09:21 AM |
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Ernst Fischer coined the term PanzerCommunismus to |
alfredo |
Apr-02-11 01:37 PM |
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Outstanding post, Time for change. |
Octafish |
Apr-02-11 09:40 AM |
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Thank you Octafish |
Time for change |
Apr-02-11 07:29 PM |
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This is silly guys |
themadstork |
Apr-02-11 09:48 AM |
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Very well said n/t |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 10:00 AM |
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No, it's not ''silly.'' |
Octafish |
Apr-02-11 10:16 AM |
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Begging the question... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 10:20 AM |
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Don't you remember Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler and the Coup against FDR, sduderstadt? |
Octafish |
Apr-02-11 12:49 PM |
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Yes... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 12:56 PM |
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Then you know Prescott Bush was named as one of those people plotting against FDR, sduderstadt. |
Octafish |
Apr-02-11 07:52 PM |
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"But a few names have leaked out. And one is Prescott Bush, the grandfather of the incumbent.... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 08:03 PM |
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The sources are the official records of the U.S. Government, sduderstadt. |
Octafish |
Apr-03-11 02:00 AM |
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Then provide the records... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-03-11 02:37 AM |
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I think it's safe to say that... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-04-11 06:30 PM |
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You've yet to answer my question, sduderstadt... |
Octafish |
Apr-05-11 03:23 PM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-05-11 03:24 PM |
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How many times do I have to put this in black and white, dude? |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-05-11 03:32 PM |
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You did not provide even one source, link, or author critical of Bush or his cronies, sduderstadt. |
Octafish |
Apr-05-11 03:40 PM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-05-11 03:42 PM |
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Dude all you want, sduderstadt. |
Octafish |
Apr-07-11 10:24 AM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-07-11 10:26 AM |
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Interesting questions about Loftus |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-03-11 02:59 AM |
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Crickets n/t |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-04-11 10:00 PM |
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John Loftus was a US Attorney hired to find NAZIs, sduderstadt. |
Octafish |
Apr-07-11 07:58 AM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-07-11 08:38 AM |
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Is that all that you want, a link, sduderstadt? Here you go... |
Octafish |
Apr-07-11 09:00 AM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-07-11 09:08 AM |
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Here are PDFs to documents from the McCormack-Dickstein Committee, sduderstadt. |
Octafish |
Apr-07-11 10:25 AM |
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None of which say what you claim... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-07-11 10:37 AM |
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It's been over 60 hours since... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-05-11 05:06 PM |
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Bad news, dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-05-11 09:11 PM |
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Still waiting for those... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-06-11 10:30 AM |
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Thanks for reminding me. You're the one who pushes "Conscious Capitalism,'' sduderstadt. |
Octafish |
Apr-07-11 07:52 AM |
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More diversion and deflection... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-07-11 08:43 AM |
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LMAO, sduderstadt. |
Octafish |
Apr-07-11 09:02 AM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-07-11 09:11 AM |
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So what more do you want, sduderstadt? |
Octafish |
Apr-07-11 10:32 AM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-07-11 10:44 AM |
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So who runs the country? |
immoderate |
Apr-02-11 06:32 PM |
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TPTB and... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-04-11 10:34 AM |
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Are you suggesting that imperialism and fascism are interchangeable terms?? nt |
themadstork |
Apr-02-11 10:22 AM |
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Imperialism, Fascism, Corporatism -- all are Un-Democratic Forms of State Power. |
Octafish |
Apr-02-11 12:46 PM |
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Because TFC is correct and 21st century version of fascism is here now. |
PufPuf23 |
Apr-02-11 12:48 PM |
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Definitions are hazy |
Armstead |
Apr-02-11 01:17 PM |
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Hazy, yes, but perhaps not quite that hazy. |
themadstork |
Apr-02-11 03:00 PM |
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Welcome to The DU. |
bluestate10 |
Apr-02-11 01:20 PM |
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No, I haven't set you to ignore |
Time for change |
Apr-02-11 03:40 PM |
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When I research your links, I seem to find numerous contradictions |
bluestate10 |
Apr-02-11 11:41 PM |
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For example... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-03-11 12:29 AM |
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"robber capitalism," I like that way of putting it. n/t |
themadstork |
Apr-03-11 10:16 AM |
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It would be more helpful if you say you find numerous contradictions to cite at least some of them |
Time for change |
Apr-03-11 08:38 PM |
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HUGE K & R !!! |
WillyT |
Apr-02-11 09:50 AM |
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Apr-02-11 10:21 AM |
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K/R -- back later -- |
defendandprotect |
Apr-02-11 12:43 PM |
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Thanks you TFC. Spot on. |
PufPuf23 |
Apr-02-11 12:51 PM |
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America IS a corporation... |
indimuse |
Apr-02-11 12:53 PM |
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K&R |
MichiganVote |
Apr-02-11 01:03 PM |
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EXCELLENT EXCELLENT READ! n/t |
FarLeftFist |
Apr-02-11 01:09 PM |
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excellent |
handmade34 |
Apr-02-11 01:36 PM |
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K & R - bookmarking to read later. |
Raksha |
Apr-02-11 02:15 PM |
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Excellent summary of our situation |
mochajava666 |
Apr-02-11 03:04 PM |
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Semantics? |
themadstork |
Apr-02-11 03:25 PM |
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Very well said n/t |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 06:13 PM |
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Yes, I do, thank you |
Time for change |
Apr-02-11 08:47 PM |
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See 145. nt |
themadstork |
Apr-02-11 11:32 PM |
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The endless "Yes it's fascism!" - "Is not!" arguments here |
IDemo |
Apr-02-11 04:43 PM |
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I agree with (what I think is) your point -- That labels can be a mixed blessing |
Time for change |
Apr-02-11 06:22 PM |
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Sorry if I wasn't clearer |
IDemo |
Apr-02-11 10:14 PM |
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It's not black/white absolutism. The OP made a very basic misunderstanding. |
themadstork |
Apr-02-11 11:16 PM |
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That said, |
themadstork |
Apr-02-11 11:24 PM |
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"the emotional payload of a word like 'fascism' |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-03-11 12:08 AM |
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feel free! nt |
themadstork |
Apr-03-11 10:20 AM |
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Apr-02-11 07:22 PM |
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hit another one out of the park TFC! |
nashville_brook |
Apr-02-11 04:57 PM |
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Very nice, but blew it on the definition of corporatism |
DissedByBush |
Apr-02-11 05:17 PM |
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Definition of corporatism by Benito Mussolini |
Time for change |
Apr-02-11 06:33 PM |
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Apr-02-11 07:31 PM |
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WORD. n/t |
hootinholler |
Apr-02-11 07:53 PM |
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Corporatism is a lot older than Mussolini n/t |
DissedByBush |
Apr-03-11 09:20 AM |
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that's right |
BOG PERSON |
Apr-02-11 06:35 PM |
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K & R |
HCE SuiGeneris |
Apr-02-11 07:21 PM |
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Kicked and recommended. |
Uncle Joe |
Apr-02-11 07:48 PM |
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The power elite establishment |
felix_numinous |
Apr-02-11 08:10 PM |
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Not Corporate Fascism? Please give me another name for it then |
Drew Richards |
Apr-02-11 09:09 PM |
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Jesus... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 09:13 PM |
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That is only what has occured in the last 8 years... |
Drew Richards |
Apr-02-11 09:20 PM |
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Actually, I do that all the time... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 09:25 PM |
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there you go again |
Drew Richards |
Apr-02-11 09:34 PM |
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Please point to any... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 09:39 PM |
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I always find it amusing when people debate, openly and freely, on a public message board, |
Nye Bevan |
Apr-02-11 10:22 PM |
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Bingo... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 10:26 PM |
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Sigh. Another person who thinks fascism is an on/off light switch. |
Bonobo |
Apr-03-11 03:07 AM |
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It is a continuum. Early in the continuum, we would not all get murdered. |
Nye Bevan |
Apr-03-11 07:33 AM |
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And I disagree. |
Bonobo |
Apr-03-11 08:20 AM |
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Simply stating "it is a continuum" is not an all-access pass to |
themadstork |
Apr-03-11 10:12 AM |
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In a sense, that's exactly what we're doing. |
Occulus |
Apr-07-11 08:49 AM |
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Avoid voting for GOPers |
opihimoimoi |
Apr-03-11 03:46 AM |
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kick and rec!!!! |
ReggieVeggie |
Apr-03-11 09:30 AM |
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while the reich wing brought america's attention to socialism it was sneaking in fascism(right wing) |
fascisthunter |
Apr-03-11 11:31 AM |
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Why, yes! |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-03-11 11:44 AM |
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But protesters are arrested |
pheobees |
Apr-03-11 11:22 PM |
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Apr-04-11 12:56 AM |
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kick |
defendandprotect |
Apr-04-11 12:49 AM |
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kicking n/t |
Hotler |
Apr-04-11 10:23 AM |
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dude! |
fascisthunter |
Apr-04-11 10:03 PM |
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MI5 Files Refer to NAZI Post-War Plan |
Octafish |
Apr-05-11 03:12 PM |
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kick n/t |
upi402 |
Apr-05-11 09:52 PM |
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thank you |
G_j |
Apr-07-11 10:26 AM |
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I've just seen disgusting corporatism on parade -- Big Oil PR Spot on TV -- |
Overseas |
Apr-07-11 11:51 PM |
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