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| -Fascism/Corporatism in the United States Today |
Time for change |
Apr-01-11 09:31 PM |
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All the threads I've been putting together for a while. Kudoes for posting this. |
freshwest |
Apr-01-11 09:37 PM |
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An excellent and well thought out post, thank you |
DJ13 |
Apr-01-11 09:43 PM |
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K&R....n/t |
unkachuck |
Apr-01-11 09:45 PM |
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it's strange seeing that illustration... |
fascisthunter |
Apr-05-11 04:20 PM |
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Thanks for this post. Keep up the fight against corporatism! |
MatthewStLouis |
Apr-01-11 10:07 PM |
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About time someone tell what fascism really is |
dontcallmebob |
Apr-02-11 01:22 AM |
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Umm, bob... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 02:25 AM |
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"Where's the brutal suppression of the opposition?" |
Time for change |
Apr-02-11 03:42 AM |
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"She just doesn't use the word "fascism" |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 08:24 AM |
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Fascism comes in stages and varying degrees |
Time for change |
Apr-02-11 08:40 AM |
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Bradley Manning has been charged with 22 crimes... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 08:45 AM |
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It's still brutal suppression |
Time for change |
Apr-02-11 08:54 AM |
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Apr-02-11 09:02 AM |
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Should civilians charged with 22 crimes, not necessarily violent ones, be treated as he has been? |
freshwest |
Apr-02-11 06:35 PM |
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Victims of brutal suppression by the chemical - pharmaceutical industry |
AikidoSoul |
Apr-03-11 10:29 AM |
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Look at Wisconsin for a foretaste |
Armstead |
Apr-02-11 09:06 AM |
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close your eyes can't happen here - alexander haig is near |
mdmc |
Apr-02-11 09:14 AM |
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Oppression has grown more sophisticated, sduderstadt. |
Octafish |
Apr-02-11 09:51 AM |
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Please present evidence that those opinions are... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 10:01 AM |
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One example are the connections between NAZIs and the Warren Commission, sduderstadt. |
Octafish |
Apr-02-11 10:14 AM |
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That's because... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 10:18 AM |
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Apr-02-11 07:59 PM |
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Excellent point. nt |
Enthusiast |
Apr-02-11 02:05 PM |
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The "wow is me" state of mind can be invaluable if desire not to solve |
bluestate10 |
Apr-02-11 01:42 PM |
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Corporations have no feelings and act like psychopaths in that way. The GOP keeps |
applegrove |
Apr-01-11 10:32 PM |
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I'm Afraid the Only Way Out Is Revolution |
Demeter |
Apr-01-11 11:40 PM |
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Excellent. Thank you for all your work on this. |
OHdem10 |
Apr-02-11 12:06 AM |
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(Auto) K&R; saving this on my hard drive |
inna |
Apr-02-11 01:25 AM |
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Y'know, I watch Rachel Maddow... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 01:44 AM |
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ahem, check out who she works for. nt |
inna |
Apr-02-11 01:47 AM |
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Ahem... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 01:49 AM |
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No, Rachel is not a coward. The tactic used is used often on DU |
bluestate10 |
Apr-02-11 12:57 PM |
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Which makes my point n/t |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 12:58 PM |
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Typical, easy liberal dismissal tactic. |
bluestate10 |
Apr-02-11 12:53 PM |
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It is more important that she keep her job. She talks around it. |
OHdem10 |
Apr-02-11 02:10 AM |
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She also regularly bashes... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 02:22 AM |
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"Doesn't sound to me like she is afraid for her job." - LOL, have you heard of Keith Olbermann? nt |
inna |
Apr-02-11 02:27 AM |
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1st of all, we aren't talking about Olbermann... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 02:34 AM |
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Apr-02-11 02:44 AM |
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Apr-02-11 02:48 AM |
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Some people just argue |
Enthusiast |
Apr-02-11 08:38 AM |
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And, some of us argue on... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 08:40 AM |
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Sort of like what you're doing? nt |
bluestate10 |
Apr-02-11 01:05 PM |
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Yes. And to engage those that do it a waste of time. |
tekisui |
Apr-02-11 01:29 PM |
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Similarly Maddow could probably maintain a decent audience independent of MSNBC at this point. |
themadstork |
Apr-02-11 09:07 AM |
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Corporatism gets thrown around a lot in this forum. A shame because it's use detracts |
bluestate10 |
Apr-02-11 01:34 PM |
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Haha, nope. |
themadstork |
Apr-02-11 03:13 PM |
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Olbermann had become a prima donna. BTW, he quit over a |
bluestate10 |
Apr-02-11 01:03 PM |
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I disagree. Rachel Maddow does not talk around issues. |
bluestate10 |
Apr-02-11 01:00 PM |
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Nobody stays on national TV long saying America is fascist. |
baldguy |
Apr-02-11 06:22 AM |
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I don't think Rachel is a... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 08:15 AM |
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Nobody here says she is a coward, and you know it |
Time for change |
Apr-02-11 08:46 AM |
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This "argument" is a textbook example of... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 08:59 AM |
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The only difference between a far Left person and a teabagger |
bluestate10 |
Apr-02-11 01:09 PM |
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Apr-02-11 08:59 AM |
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Apr-02-11 08:59 AM |
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Exactly |
Enthusiast |
Apr-02-11 08:55 AM |
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No... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 10:35 AM |
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The governance being practiced |
Enthusiast |
Apr-02-11 11:53 AM |
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Maybe looking at a complete definition of... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 11:58 AM |
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You should read your own links. |
PufPuf23 |
Apr-02-11 12:43 PM |
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The information provided in your link |
Enthusiast |
Apr-02-11 01:35 PM |
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How about the... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 01:38 PM |
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There are other forms of |
Enthusiast |
Apr-02-11 02:00 PM |
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What is Fascism? |
olegramps |
Apr-04-11 09:27 AM |
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In the same way that some... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-04-11 10:38 AM |
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doesn't she work for a huge multinational corporation? |
mdmc |
Apr-02-11 09:23 AM |
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Explain how working for /GE/NBC/Comcast color what Maddow reports or opines? |
bluestate10 |
Apr-02-11 01:13 PM |
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Here you go. |
Octafish |
Apr-02-11 06:22 PM |
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1 |
mdmc |
Apr-02-11 08:49 PM |
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Boring stuff. Just wild fantasy again. nt |
bluestate10 |
Apr-02-11 11:35 PM |
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All sourced, unlike your opinions, bluestate10. |
Octafish |
Apr-03-11 01:51 AM |
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Octafish... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-03-11 02:50 AM |
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What does this have to do with... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-05-11 07:36 PM |
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she perhaps flip-flopped on her opinion of Tweety |
hfojvt |
Apr-03-11 11:22 AM |
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Spot on |
Mosaic |
Apr-03-11 07:54 AM |
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The men who died in WW2 apparently died for nothing... |
YellowRubberDuckie |
Apr-02-11 09:01 AM |
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William Greider is....... |
Armstead |
Apr-02-11 09:16 AM |
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Corporate Fascism with a strong dose of Greed pretty much sums up this country. |
sarcasmo |
Apr-02-11 09:21 AM |
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Ernst Fischer coined the term PanzerCommunismus to |
alfredo |
Apr-02-11 01:37 PM |
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Outstanding post, Time for change. |
Octafish |
Apr-02-11 09:40 AM |
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Thank you Octafish |
Time for change |
Apr-02-11 07:29 PM |
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This is silly guys |
themadstork |
Apr-02-11 09:48 AM |
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Very well said n/t |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 10:00 AM |
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No, it's not ''silly.'' |
Octafish |
Apr-02-11 10:16 AM |
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Begging the question... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 10:20 AM |
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Don't you remember Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler and the Coup against FDR, sduderstadt? |
Octafish |
Apr-02-11 12:49 PM |
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Yes... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 12:56 PM |
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Then you know Prescott Bush was named as one of those people plotting against FDR, sduderstadt. |
Octafish |
Apr-02-11 07:52 PM |
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"But a few names have leaked out. And one is Prescott Bush, the grandfather of the incumbent.... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 08:03 PM |
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The sources are the official records of the U.S. Government, sduderstadt. |
Octafish |
Apr-03-11 02:00 AM |
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Then provide the records... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-03-11 02:37 AM |
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I think it's safe to say that... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-04-11 06:30 PM |
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You've yet to answer my question, sduderstadt... |
Octafish |
Apr-05-11 03:23 PM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-05-11 03:24 PM |
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How many times do I have to put this in black and white, dude? |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-05-11 03:32 PM |
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You did not provide even one source, link, or author critical of Bush or his cronies, sduderstadt. |
Octafish |
Apr-05-11 03:40 PM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-05-11 03:42 PM |
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Dude all you want, sduderstadt. |
Octafish |
Apr-07-11 10:24 AM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-07-11 10:26 AM |
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Interesting questions about Loftus |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-03-11 02:59 AM |
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Crickets n/t |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-04-11 10:00 PM |
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John Loftus was a US Attorney hired to find NAZIs, sduderstadt. |
Octafish |
Apr-07-11 07:58 AM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-07-11 08:38 AM |
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Is that all that you want, a link, sduderstadt? Here you go... |
Octafish |
Apr-07-11 09:00 AM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-07-11 09:08 AM |
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Here are PDFs to documents from the McCormack-Dickstein Committee, sduderstadt. |
Octafish |
Apr-07-11 10:25 AM |
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None of which say what you claim... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-07-11 10:37 AM |
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It's been over 60 hours since... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-05-11 05:06 PM |
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Bad news, dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-05-11 09:11 PM |
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Still waiting for those... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-06-11 10:30 AM |
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Thanks for reminding me. You're the one who pushes "Conscious Capitalism,'' sduderstadt. |
Octafish |
Apr-07-11 07:52 AM |
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More diversion and deflection... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-07-11 08:43 AM |
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LMAO, sduderstadt. |
Octafish |
Apr-07-11 09:02 AM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-07-11 09:11 AM |
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So what more do you want, sduderstadt? |
Octafish |
Apr-07-11 10:32 AM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-07-11 10:44 AM |
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So who runs the country? |
immoderate |
Apr-02-11 06:32 PM |
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TPTB and... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-04-11 10:34 AM |
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Are you suggesting that imperialism and fascism are interchangeable terms?? nt |
themadstork |
Apr-02-11 10:22 AM |
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Imperialism, Fascism, Corporatism -- all are Un-Democratic Forms of State Power. |
Octafish |
Apr-02-11 12:46 PM |
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Because TFC is correct and 21st century version of fascism is here now. |
PufPuf23 |
Apr-02-11 12:48 PM |
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Definitions are hazy |
Armstead |
Apr-02-11 01:17 PM |
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Hazy, yes, but perhaps not quite that hazy. |
themadstork |
Apr-02-11 03:00 PM |
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Welcome to The DU. |
bluestate10 |
Apr-02-11 01:20 PM |
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No, I haven't set you to ignore |
Time for change |
Apr-02-11 03:40 PM |
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When I research your links, I seem to find numerous contradictions |
bluestate10 |
Apr-02-11 11:41 PM |
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For example... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-03-11 12:29 AM |
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"robber capitalism," I like that way of putting it. n/t |
themadstork |
Apr-03-11 10:16 AM |
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It would be more helpful if you say you find numerous contradictions to cite at least some of them |
Time for change |
Apr-03-11 08:38 PM |
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HUGE K & R !!! |
WillyT |
Apr-02-11 09:50 AM |
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Apr-02-11 10:21 AM |
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K/R -- back later -- |
defendandprotect |
Apr-02-11 12:43 PM |
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Thanks you TFC. Spot on. |
PufPuf23 |
Apr-02-11 12:51 PM |
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America IS a corporation... |
indimuse |
Apr-02-11 12:53 PM |
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K&R |
MichiganVote |
Apr-02-11 01:03 PM |
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EXCELLENT EXCELLENT READ! n/t |
FarLeftFist |
Apr-02-11 01:09 PM |
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excellent |
handmade34 |
Apr-02-11 01:36 PM |
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K & R - bookmarking to read later. |
Raksha |
Apr-02-11 02:15 PM |
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Excellent summary of our situation |
mochajava666 |
Apr-02-11 03:04 PM |
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Semantics? |
themadstork |
Apr-02-11 03:25 PM |
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Very well said n/t |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 06:13 PM |
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Yes, I do, thank you |
Time for change |
Apr-02-11 08:47 PM |
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See 145. nt |
themadstork |
Apr-02-11 11:32 PM |
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The endless "Yes it's fascism!" - "Is not!" arguments here |
IDemo |
Apr-02-11 04:43 PM |
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I agree with (what I think is) your point -- That labels can be a mixed blessing |
Time for change |
Apr-02-11 06:22 PM |
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Sorry if I wasn't clearer |
IDemo |
Apr-02-11 10:14 PM |
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It's not black/white absolutism. The OP made a very basic misunderstanding. |
themadstork |
Apr-02-11 11:16 PM |
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That said, |
themadstork |
Apr-02-11 11:24 PM |
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"the emotional payload of a word like 'fascism' |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-03-11 12:08 AM |
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feel free! nt |
themadstork |
Apr-03-11 10:20 AM |
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Apr-02-11 07:22 PM |
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hit another one out of the park TFC! |
nashville_brook |
Apr-02-11 04:57 PM |
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Very nice, but blew it on the definition of corporatism |
DissedByBush |
Apr-02-11 05:17 PM |
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Definition of corporatism by Benito Mussolini |
Time for change |
Apr-02-11 06:33 PM |
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Apr-02-11 07:31 PM |
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WORD. n/t |
hootinholler |
Apr-02-11 07:53 PM |
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Corporatism is a lot older than Mussolini n/t |
DissedByBush |
Apr-03-11 09:20 AM |
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that's right |
BOG PERSON |
Apr-02-11 06:35 PM |
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K & R |
HCE SuiGeneris |
Apr-02-11 07:21 PM |
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Kicked and recommended. |
Uncle Joe |
Apr-02-11 07:48 PM |
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The power elite establishment |
felix_numinous |
Apr-02-11 08:10 PM |
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Not Corporate Fascism? Please give me another name for it then |
Drew Richards |
Apr-02-11 09:09 PM |
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Jesus... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 09:13 PM |
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That is only what has occured in the last 8 years... |
Drew Richards |
Apr-02-11 09:20 PM |
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Actually, I do that all the time... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 09:25 PM |
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there you go again |
Drew Richards |
Apr-02-11 09:34 PM |
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Please point to any... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 09:39 PM |
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I always find it amusing when people debate, openly and freely, on a public message board, |
Nye Bevan |
Apr-02-11 10:22 PM |
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Bingo... |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-02-11 10:26 PM |
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Sigh. Another person who thinks fascism is an on/off light switch. |
Bonobo |
Apr-03-11 03:07 AM |
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It is a continuum. Early in the continuum, we would not all get murdered. |
Nye Bevan |
Apr-03-11 07:33 AM |
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And I disagree. |
Bonobo |
Apr-03-11 08:20 AM |
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Simply stating "it is a continuum" is not an all-access pass to |
themadstork |
Apr-03-11 10:12 AM |
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In a sense, that's exactly what we're doing. |
Occulus |
Apr-07-11 08:49 AM |
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Avoid voting for GOPers |
opihimoimoi |
Apr-03-11 03:46 AM |
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kick and rec!!!! |
ReggieVeggie |
Apr-03-11 09:30 AM |
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while the reich wing brought america's attention to socialism it was sneaking in fascism(right wing) |
fascisthunter |
Apr-03-11 11:31 AM |
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Why, yes! |
SDuderstadt |
Apr-03-11 11:44 AM |
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But protesters are arrested |
pheobees |
Apr-03-11 11:22 PM |
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Apr-04-11 12:56 AM |
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kick |
defendandprotect |
Apr-04-11 12:49 AM |
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kicking n/t |
Hotler |
Apr-04-11 10:23 AM |
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dude! |
fascisthunter |
Apr-04-11 10:03 PM |
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MI5 Files Refer to NAZI Post-War Plan |
Octafish |
Apr-05-11 03:12 PM |
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kick n/t |
upi402 |
Apr-05-11 09:52 PM |
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thank you |
G_j |
Apr-07-11 10:26 AM |
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I've just seen disgusting corporatism on parade -- Big Oil PR Spot on TV -- |
Overseas |
Apr-07-11 11:51 PM |
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